Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Mulindwa, Please save your breath. Many like Musaazi will be showing up now since it is becoming more and more apparent to them that the NRM party is over and it is time to jump ship. As usual. Bwambuga. Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did Emanuel Musaazi arrive from Mars? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto ...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this forum) towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I would hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and a disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians in the north, they also deserve some sympathy. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Mr. Mulindwa, you always make a lot of statements without facts. Your opinions appear to be based on rumours and gossip. When you do put up articles to support your position, you immediately procede to put your own spin on them. You even deny historical facts. I would like to believe that Ugandans who log on to this site are intelligent and know the history of there country. You apparently don't believe so or are just ignorant about this fact. Hence all the postings highlighting the gruesome situation in the north while they are accurate, tend to lose there significance because of the spin you attach to them and that offends me. Then if one does not accept your opinion of the crisis, you procede to brand them as apologists of what is going on. I want to remind you that their are many northerners in the UPDF who are in the north fighting to protect those innocent civilians in the north. Their are northern politicians IN Uganda who also support the government's approach to the crisis. I think it is very disingenuous of you to use the abominable and catastrophic crisis in the north to score cheap political points. We refuse to by your VERY CHEAP DOPE. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:48:30 -0400 When did Emanuel Musaazi arrive from Mars? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto ...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this forum) towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I would hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and a disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians in the north, they also deserve some sympathy. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Can the communications gang ever make a point without distorting the truth or even telling outright lies ! As has been pointed out, Ssabasajja has over the years expressed concern about the situation in Acholi. But here they are, telling us that he has just started caring and that he was actually involved in The arrangement to kill Northerners and Easterners ! I sometimes wonder why he even bothers. The only encouraging thing is that not all people coming from the northern and eastern parts of Uganda have a similar kind of warped thinking as the gang. Kasangwawo From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:16:31 -0400 Matek It is so sad that our people can flip this well. Museveni comes to power and every Northerner is a biological substance, and well they can die as long as we sleep. Today the same Ugandans, Lutimba Matovu and Muniini Mulera are the very same ones who are very concerned for Northerners are dying. And on what I have even read on Ugandanet, Even Ssabasajja now cares. Under normal circumstances I would have flipped, but there is a point which is very important that we must never forget. The arrangement to kill Northerners and Easterners, was made between them and the Mulera's the Matovu's the Ssabasaja's and every single Ugandan who decided to blindly support NRM for his/her own financial gains. But under the belly of this problem are Ugandans with real life who have lost millions and millions of their own, people who have passed through ages of suffering that we can not even temper to understand the equivalence. And I come from Luwero where I was all the time when the Museveni's and Kiiza Besigye's were killing indiscriminately, but we were not held for 20 years, so I can not even equate my self to the understanding. The Easterners who are killed at random. Those are the people Dr. Muniini Mulera Kwehangana and Lutimba Matovu should explain to why they allowed these massacres to continue under the dubious praise of NRM. And the little information we are getting from Northern Uganda, you bet they will want to know. And if I was Mulera and Matovu I would start my mission in Paida not on Ugandnet or Monitor. But that is me. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto This in the year 2003. Where was the kabaka for all those 17 years when Yoweri Mucebeni troops were murdering citizens in Northern Uganda? That , then, is the question. MK In a message dated 8/4/2003 5:28:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mulindwa, Everybody cares, read on. The Kabaka pleaded with the government to end the 17-year-old insurgency in the northern region. Kabaka Mutebi said that he feels a lot of sympathy especially for the innocent children suffering in the north. “We pray that everything possible is done to restore peace in this region,” he said. © 2003 The Monitor Publications --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugandans _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Good night Mwaami Musaazi Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:45 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Mr. Mulindwa, you always make a lot of statements without facts. Your opinions appear to be based on rumours and gossip. When you do put up articles to support your position, you immediately procede to put your own spin on them. You even deny historical facts. I would like to believe that Ugandans who log on to this site are intelligent and know the history of there country. You apparently don't believe so or are just ignorant about this fact. Hence all the postings highlighting the gruesome situation in the north while they are accurate, tend to lose there significance because of the spin you attach to them and that offends me. Then if one does not accept your opinion of the crisis, you procede to brand them as apologists of what is going on. I want to remind you that their are many northerners in the UPDF who are in the north fighting to protect those innocent civilians in the north. Their are northern politicians IN Uganda who also support the government's approach to the crisis. I think it is very disingenuous of you to use the abominable and catastrophic crisis in the north to score cheap political points. We refuse to by your VERY CHEAP DOPE. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 03:48:30 -0400 When did Emanuel Musaazi arrive from Mars? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto ...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this forum) towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I would hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and a disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians in the north, they also deserve some sympathy. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
When did Emanuel Musaazi arrive from Mars? Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:34 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto ...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this forum) towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I would hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and a disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians in the north, they also deserve some sympathy. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Mulindwa, Munini is a classical case of what he condemns in his article. As long as the NRM/A was killing only the Acholis and other biological substances, it was alright for him. As long as he was still "eating" at the trough of the Victors, it was ok. But now things have come closer to home. A fellow Munyakabale has been identified, isolated and is soon to be crushed! It is only this realization that has now dawned on Munini. It isthis that has woken him from his long "sleep". For us who have always seen the NRA/M/M7 for what it is, we say welcome Munini to this sad realization. Late and little as it may be, We none the less say welcome to the nightmare that you helped usher in Uganda! Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: "Anne Mugisha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated "Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us" Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated "Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda" Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de c ommunication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at the se massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing "the government's sadness" at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public _expression_ of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
...as horrible as the northern crisis is, one can't help but notice the silence and lack of outrage of notherners (particularly those on this forum) towards Kony and his band of criminals and to me that is surprising. I would hope that this tragedy is not being used by die-hard opponents of the government as a political trump card, because that would be a shame and a disgrace (petty politics at it's worst). We should also remember that hundreds of UPDF soldiers have died trying to protect innocent civilians in the north, they also deserve some sympathy. From: Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Anne Mugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader
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Gook That is very true and to the point. However there is another look we must take on Dr. Mulera and the friends who are now trumpeting the Reform Agenda. Mulera's style from day one has been to use classes in our nation, both in Uganda and in Canada. His argument has all along been those people and then them selves, the ones who are right and who can rule Uganda better, and that is exactly where and how he gave NRM his undoubtedly full support by using the Canadian media and Uganda forums. That is no secret to any one in these forums. Today in 2003 August, Mulera is telling us what we all along did not know and I quote "However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. " So in essence Mulera is stating that classifying Ugandans is a terrible thing that we all must never do. But in the very same article he wrote in Monitor he states and I again quote "I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence." The fact that Mulera's problem is not peace in Uganda but who is in the State House. The long time he has spent in the wildness, he has not picked up anything new. For again hegoes back in his old bag and he classify the same Ugandans that he is telling to stop thoselines. So for him the Ugandans who are on UNAANET are the only ones who are sober, the rest of the Ugandans out there, in other forums are not sober. That is Dr. Mulera's problem. The failure to understand that all Ugandans are equal. And let us be fair to those who are new to this very old adage, Dr Mulera was a full member of Ugandanet, and he used it to the optimum to sing the NRM song unconditionally, record must as well indicate that Mulera opposed the notion that the killing of Northerners and Easterners is a government sponsored program. Ugandans became tired and decided to take Mulera head on and he ran away. The same Mulera took his testimony to fednet, a forum again where Ugandans rejected his support of who ever is in state house, again he ran away. Mulera found refugee in UNAANET, the question remains for how long? It is very sad that today he is stating that themembers of UNAANET are the only ones who are sober, so what is he going to call them after they show his lies as happened in two separate Uganda forums? And I conclude, that as long as there are Mulera's out there, who decide to feed on every chance and change which comes into Uganda, or appears to come to Uganda, the Mulera's who decide to make now the Bakiga tribe a very important issue in Uganda politics, that he evensets up a Bakiga conference in Toronto, thanks to the dream of Kiiza Besigye's ambition to come to power. The onus ison Ugandans to spot these malfunctions we have in our society and to make them public. With out that we will have many deaths in Uganda, today the helicopter went toPader but tomorrow it will be in Rukungiri. Ugandans be ware of the Mulera's we have in society. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Mulindwa, Munini is a classical case of what he condemns in his article. As long as the NRM/A was killing only the Acholis and other biological substances, it was alright for him. As long as he was still "eating" at the trough of the Victors, it was ok. But now things have come closer to home. A fellow Munyakabale has been identified, isolated and is soon to be crushed! It is only this realization that has now dawned on Munini. It isthis that has woken him from his long "sleep". For us who have always seen the NRA/M/M7 for what it is, we say welcome Munini to this sad realization. Late and little as it may be, We none the less say welcome to the nightmare that you helped usher in Uganda! Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: "Anne Mugisha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 19:11:07 -0400 Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing
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Mulindwa, Everybody cares, read on. The Kabaka pleaded with the government to end the 17-year-old insurgency in the northern region. Kabaka Mutebi said that he feels a lot of sympathy especially for the innocent children suffering in the north. We pray that everything possible is done to restore peace in this region, he said. © 2003 The Monitor Publications LM --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader happened to them, not to us. They occurred over there, in the land of they who did it to us in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere
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Mulindwa, Everybody cares, read on. The Kabaka pleaded with the government to end the 17-year-old insurgency in the northern region. Kabaka Mutebi said that he feels a lot of sympathy especially for the innocent children suffering in the north. We pray that everything possible is done to restore peace in this region, he said. © 2003 The Monitor Publications --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader happened to them, not to us. They occurred over there, in the land of they who did it to us in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere before we
Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Mulindwa, Everybody cares, read on. The Kabaka pleaded with the government to end the 17-year-old insurgency in the northern region. Kabaka Mutebi said that he feels a lot of sympathy especially for the innocent children suffering in the north. We pray that everything possible is done to restore peace in this region, he said. © 2003 The Monitor Publications --- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of Ugandans August 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga: On July 22, 2003, a Uganda People's Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony. Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the world's scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambi's statement to parliament expressing the government's sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public expression of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, weren't Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader happened to them, not to us. They occurred over there, in the land of they who did it to us in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere before we
ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto
Matek It is so sad that our people can flip this well. Museveni comes to power and every Northerner is a biological substance, and well they can die as long as we sleep. Today the same Ugandans, Lutimba Matovu and Muniini Mulera are the very same ones who are very concerned for Northerners are dying. And on what I have even read on Ugandanet, Even Ssabasajja now cares. Under normal circumstances I would have flipped, but there is a point which is very important that we must never forget. The arrangement to kill Northerners and Easterners, was made between them and the Mulera's the Matovu's the Ssabasaja's and every single Ugandan who decided toblindly support NRM for his/her own financial gains. But under the belly of this problem are Ugandans with real life who have lost millions and millions of their own, people who have passed through agesof suffering that we can not even temper to understand the equivalence. And I come from Luwero where I was all the time when the Museveni's and Kiiza Besigye's were killing indiscriminately, but we were not held for 20 years, so I can not even equate my self to the understanding. The Easterners who are killed at random. Those are the peopleDr. Muniini Mulera Kwehangana and Lutimba Matovu should explain to why they allowed these massacres to continue under the dubious praise of NRM. And the little information we are getting from Northern Uganda, you bet they will want to know. And if I was Mulera and Matovu I would start my mission in Paida not on Ugandnet or Monitor. But that is me. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:50 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto This in the year 2003. Where was the kabaka for all those 17 years when Yoweri Mucebeni troops were murdering citizens in Northern Uganda? That , then, is the question.MK In a message dated 8/4/2003 5:28:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mulindwa,Everybody cares, read on."The Kabaka pleaded with the government to end the 17-year-old insurgency in the northern region."Kabaka Mutebi said that he feels a lot of sympathyespecially for the innocent children suffering in thenorth.We pray that everything possible is done to restorepeace in this region, he said. 2003 The Monitor Publications--- Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ugandans
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Muniini, It is a bitter pill to swallow, I know. But that you attempted to be on our side for once before your creater, I wish you could really address the issue rather than act imbecile and stupid. Your question is long over due. You should now ask about waht Ugandans, including you are going to do about this greatest tragedy that dictator Museveni and hi NRA/M has brought on us (Ba'Anyanya). Your question does not reflect sensitivity to the reallity in Uganda north of Kyoga and the Nile. It falls short of the seriousness it deserves Brother. We may ask you amillion questions just to try to understand why now; but as long as the strength with which you supported dictatorship in Uganda is not turned around to save those Ugandans from this amagedon, your letter is just another crocodile tear. Bwambuga. - Mulindwa Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gook That is very true and to the point. However there is another look we must take on Dr. Mulera and the friends who are now trumpeting the Reform Agenda. Mulera's style from day one has been to use classes in our nation, both in Uganda and in Canada. His argument has all along been those people and then them selves, the ones who are right and who can rule Uganda better, and that is exactly where and how he gave NRM his undoubtedly full support by using the Canadian media and Uganda forums. That is no secret to any one in these forums. Today in 2003 August, Mulera is telling us what we all along did not know and I quote However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. So in essence Mulera is stating that classifying Ugandans is a terrible thing that we all must never do. But in the very same article he wrote in Monitor he states and I again quote I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. The fact that Mulera's problem is not peace in Uganda but who is in the State House. The long time he has spent in the wildness, he has not picked up anything new. For again he goes back in his old bag and he classify the same Ugandans that he is telling to stop those lines. So for him the Ugandans who are on UNAANET are the only ones who are sober, the rest of the Ugandans out there, in other forums are not sober. That is Dr. Mulera's problem. The failure to understand that all Ugandans are equal. And let us be fair to those who are new to this very old adage, Dr Mulera was a full member of Ugandanet, and he used it to the optimum to sing the NRM song unconditionally, record must as well indicate that Mulera opposed the notion that the killing of Northerners and Easterners is a government sponsored program. Ugandans became tired and decided to take Mulera head on and he ran away. The same Mulera took his testimony to fednet, a forum again where Ugandans rejected his support of who ever is in state house, again he ran away. Mulera found refugee in UNAANET, the question remains for how long? It is very sad that today he is stating that the members of UNAANET are the only ones who are sober, so what is he going to call them after they show his lies as happened in two separate Uganda forums? And I conclude, that as long as there are Mulera's out there, who decide to feed on every chance and change which comes into Uganda, or appears to come to Uganda, the Mulera's who decide to make now the Bakiga tribe a very important issue in Uganda politics, that he even sets up a Bakiga conference in Toronto, thanks to the dream of Kiiza Besigye's ambition to come to power. The onus is on Ugandans to spot these malfunctions we have in our society and to make them public. With out that we will have many deaths in Uganda, today the helicopter went to Pader but tomorrow it will be in Rukungiri. Ugandans be ware of the Mulera's we have in society. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:33 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Mulindwa, Munini is a classical case of what he condemns in his article. As long as the NRM/A was killing only the Acholis and other biological substances, it was alright for him. As long as he was still eating at the trough of the Victors, it was ok. But now things have come closer to home. A fellow Munyakabale has been identified, isolated and is soon to be crushed! It is only this realization that has now dawned on Munini . It isthis that has woken him from his long sleep. For us who have
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Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of UgandansAugust 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga:On July 22, 2003, a Uganda Peoples Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony.Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the worlds scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambis statement to parliament expressing the governments sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public _expression_ of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, werent Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader happened to them, not to us. They occurred over there, in the land of they who did it to us in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere before we overthrew them from power in 1986. That the vast majority of people of Acholi and Teso had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes committed by the pre-Museveni regimes is a truth that must not be allowed to interfere with such prejudices. That the people of Acholi and Teso are our brothers, our kinsmen, fellow Africans, bound together by a history that we cannot undo, fated to a common destiny, is a detail that must not be accorded room in our consciousness. To do so would ruin the great illusion of being different from them who are from over there. It would make it hard for us to say, with a smile, that they deserve it. Whether it is the Kanungu massacre or the violence in Bunyoro, the violent cattle-rustling in Karamoja and Teso or the abduction of girls from Lango and Acholi, many Ugandans see these crimes as purely local matters, of concern to members of the relevant tribes. It is their problem, not ours. This is the same attitude that has been shown by many people from the southern parts of Uganda, especially from Buganda and the Western Region, in response to the long nightmare that has gripped the Acholi people for nearly two decades. While few would openly admit to such racist attitudes, many have expressed in private conversations that the nearly one million Acholi in concentration camps deserve the dehumanizing fate that has been theirs for more than a decade. This is the attitude that almost certainly informs the reaction of many people from south of Lake Kyoga to the recent massacres in Katakwi and Pader. It is them, not us. Another possible explanation for this reaction is that these killings were perpetrated by a UPDF gunship which was presumably hunting for anti-government rebels. Ours is a society where we ration condemnation of injustice and crime. Opponents of President Yoweri Musevenis government find it hard to condemn criminal acts by the regimes armed opponents. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Some even celebrate the brutality of crazed fellows who butcher fellow citizens in the name of the Lord. On the other hand, supporters of President Yoweri Museveni and his government feel duty-bound to remain silent in the face of the most indefensible crimes of the state against the citizens of Uganda. Citizens massacred and terrorised by the state in Acholi, in Teso, in Rukungiri, in Kinkizi. Silence from supporters of the regime. Solidarity even in crime. That is why the latest high profile son of Teso, Minister of State for Health Mike Mukula, is unlikely to condemn the actions of the UPDF which killed his
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Ugandans It is very interesting to see Dr Mulera writing this kind of statements today, but I think he is too late to join the rest of Ugandans who have condemned daily these kinds of killings in Northern and eastern. And we must as well remember that Ugandans who are in those areas know full well who have supported their being killed. For let us not kid our selves, killing Northerners was not started yesterday, it has been going on for the last 20 years, so I will not challenge my friend Mulera to go back into history very long ago, so I will ask him only two very simple questions. 1) In the early 80's when Yoweri Museveni stated "Northerners are Biological substances, and many of these people are not fit to live with us" Can Dr Mulera produce where he publicly opposed that statement? 2) When Kiiza besigye stated "Acholis and Langis should be eradicated from Uganda" Can he produce where he opposed it? You see the danger is that today Northern Uganda has become a public case, and there is no one who has done this apart from the Northerners them selves, and if today in 2003 people like my friend and neighbour Dr Muniini Mulera can come up with such sentiments, can you imagine if he stood for the population in Northern Uganda from 1984 when he was the best seller of the NRM government in Canada? There is allot of blood that has been poured in Northern and Eastern Uganda, but we must never delude our selves that it is Museveni alone to blame, for that will be the greatest delusion. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: gook makanga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:16 PM Subject: ugnet_: By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Letter to A Kampala Friend By Muniini K. Mulera In Toronto Northern killings bring out racism of UgandansAugust 4, 2003 Dear Tingasiga:On July 22, 2003, a Uganda Peoples Defence Force [UPDF] helicopter gunship killed nine civilians in Obalanga, Katakwi District. The victims were attending a funeral ceremony.Two days later, a military helicopter gunship killed 13 civilians who were tilling their gardens in Acholi-Bur, Pader District. Many others were injured. While these killings were duly reported by the Kampala news media, there has been little manifestation of our collective outrage at these massacres of unarmed civilians. I have scanned the newspapers from Kampala and around the world. The Kampala paers have told the story. The rest of the worlds scribes have been silent on the matter. I have read postings on UNAANET, an Internet Discussion group that brings together largely sober-minded and empathetic Ugandans in North America. Silence. Save for statements by a few Ugandan MPs and Prime Minister Apolo Nsibambis statement to parliament expressing the governments sadness at the news of the Pader incident, there has been little public _expression_ of outrage by regular citizens. It is business as usual. Perhaps the explanation is simply that Ugandans have murdered each other for so long that a few more deaths are neither here nor there. Perhaps we have become a nation of hardened souls, immune from the pain of losing fellow citizens, viewing violent death as part of doing government business. Yet I doubt that this is the explanation. After all, werent Ugandans rightly outraged by the killings of innocent Iraqi citizens by US and British fighter jets during the recent war against Saddam Hussein? Of course it could be that the deaths of Arabs in Mesopotamia at the hands of Americans engendered deeper emotions than the death of Africans at the hands of fellow Africans. Colonialism has had a deep effect on our self-image. However, I think that the major reason for the lack of public outrage over the massacres of fellow Ugandans in Katakwi [Teso] and Pader [Acholi] is racism. Uganda-style racism; the old north-south divide. The truth is, Tingasiga, the massacres in Katakwi and Pader happened to them, not to us. They occurred over there, in the land of they who did it to us in the Luwero Triangle and elsewhere before we overthrew them from power in 1986. That the vast majority of people of Acholi and Teso had absolutely nothing to do
