Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
..common, even President Bush once said we want Saddam dead or alive, this was shortly b4 the invasion of Iraq. Now that didn't get Bush arrested did it. Ugandans have a right to self defence...in my opinion there is nothing wrong in telling people to defend themselves with all means possible, when those LRA thugs come around, after all they never show mercy on anyone including childrenit seems Mr. Yaobang that you have some hidden affection for the LRA. From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:51:48 + Emnmanuel: Who are these 'enemies of gthe state'? Watch your tongue, young man. Please re-read the Monitor article: inciting to kill anyone for any reason is illegal under Uganda's laws! y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:11:44 -0500 Obviously there is a big difference between inciting people to genocide and inciting people to kill enemies of the state or crimianls such as rebels. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:43:38 EDT Prosecute RDC Ecweru . A HREF=http://allafrica.com/publishers.html?passed_name=The%20Monitorpassed_location=Kampala;The Monitor/A (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels, (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law liable on conviction to an imprisonment for a term of 3 years. Ecweru clearly knows the role of the media - to disseminate information - and how the media was used in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. This means he had knowledge of the broader context of his statement. By the mere fact that he made such a statement through the media is enough evidence to prove that he had the mens rea (criminal mind) to commit the offence of incitement to violence within the meaning of section 50a of the Penal Code of Uganda. Even under the international laws on genocide, public incitement characterized by a call for criminal action to a number of individuals in a particular place or members of the general public at large, by such means as the mass media, constitutes an international crime. To show that the law of incitement to violence is not only meant for opposition politicians, an example must be made of Ecweru. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail
Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
Mr. Yaobang, i will not be intimidated by your scare tactics and i am entitled to my own conclussions and opinions based on your response. You indicated that you did not think that the LRA is an enemy of the state. Well in my opinion and i think this opionion has been borne out internationally, terrorist groups such as the LRA which kill innocent civilians are classified as enemies of the state. If you don't agree with my conclusions, well, you are free to disagree and thus disprove my conclusions. Resorting to scare tactics just proves my point. From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 13:57:10 + Emmanuel Musaazi: I demand that you immediately retract with an aopopgy to me the following statement contained in your e-mail: ... it seems Mr. Yaobang that you have some hidden affection for the LRA... Statements like these have serious implications and I take them seriously. y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:09:54 -0500 ..common, even President Bush once said we want Saddam dead or alive, this was shortly b4 the invasion of Iraq. Now that didn't get Bush arrested did it. Ugandans have a right to self defence...in my opinion there is nothing wrong in telling people to defend themselves with all means possible, when those LRA thugs come around, after all they never show mercy on anyone including childrenit seems Mr. Yaobang that you have some hidden affection for the LRA. From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:51:48 + Emnmanuel: Who are these 'enemies of gthe state'? Watch your tongue, young man. Please re-read the Monitor article: inciting to kill anyone for any reason is illegal under Uganda's laws! y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:11:44 -0500 Obviously there is a big difference between inciting people to genocide and inciting people to kill enemies of the state or crimianls such as rebels. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:43:38 EDT Prosecute RDC Ecweru . A HREF=http://allafrica.com/publishers.html?passed_name=The%20Monitorpassed_location=Kampala;The Monitor/A (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels, (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law
Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
Emmanuel Musaazi: I demand that you immediately retract with an aopopgy to me the following statement contained in your e-mail: ... it seems Mr. Yaobang that you have some hidden affection for the LRA... Statements like these have serious implications and I take them seriously. y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:09:54 -0500 ..common, even President Bush once said we want Saddam dead or alive, this was shortly b4 the invasion of Iraq. Now that didn't get Bush arrested did it. Ugandans have a right to self defence...in my opinion there is nothing wrong in telling people to defend themselves with all means possible, when those LRA thugs come around, after all they never show mercy on anyone including childrenit seems Mr. Yaobang that you have some hidden affection for the LRA. From: Y Yaobang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 13:51:48 + Emnmanuel: Who are these 'enemies of gthe state'? Watch your tongue, young man. Please re-read the Monitor article: inciting to kill anyone for any reason is illegal under Uganda's laws! y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:11:44 -0500 Obviously there is a big difference between inciting people to genocide and inciting people to kill enemies of the state or crimianls such as rebels. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:43:38 EDT Prosecute RDC Ecweru . A HREF=http://allafrica.com/publishers.html?passed_name=The%20Monitorpassed_location=Kampala;The Monitor/A (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels, (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law liable on conviction to an imprisonment for a term of 3 years. Ecweru clearly knows the role of the media - to disseminate information - and how the media was used in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. This means he had knowledge of the broader context of his statement. By the mere fact that he made such a statement through the media is enough evidence to prove that he had the mens rea (criminal mind) to commit the offence of incitement to violence within the meaning of section 50a of the Penal Code of Uganda. Even under the international laws on genocide, public incitement characterized by a call for criminal action to a number of individuals in a particular place or members of the general public at large
Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
Emnmanuel: Who are these 'enemies of gthe state'? Watch your tongue, young man. Please re-read the Monitor article: inciting to kill anyone for any reason is illegal under Uganda's laws! y From: emmanuel musaazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 17:11:44 -0500 Obviously there is a big difference between inciting people to genocide and inciting people to kill enemies of the state or crimianls such as rebels. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:43:38 EDT Prosecute RDC Ecweru . A HREF=http://allafrica.com/publishers.html?passed_name=The%20Monitorpassed_location=Kampala;The Monitor/A (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels, (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law liable on conviction to an imprisonment for a term of 3 years. Ecweru clearly knows the role of the media - to disseminate information - and how the media was used in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. This means he had knowledge of the broader context of his statement. By the mere fact that he made such a statement through the media is enough evidence to prove that he had the mens rea (criminal mind) to commit the offence of incitement to violence within the meaning of section 50a of the Penal Code of Uganda. Even under the international laws on genocide, public incitement characterized by a call for criminal action to a number of individuals in a particular place or members of the general public at large, by such means as the mass media, constitutes an international crime. To show that the law of incitement to violence is not only meant for opposition politicians, an example must be made of Ecweru. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
Prosecute RDC Ecweru . The Monitor (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; "UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels," (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that "any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law liable on conviction to an imprisonment for a term of 3 years". Ecweru clearly knows the role of the media - to disseminate information - and how the media was used in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. This means he had knowledge of the broader context of his statement. By the mere fact that he made such a statement through the media is enough evidence to prove that he had the mens rea (criminal mind) to commit the offence of incitement to violence within the meaning of section 50a of the Penal Code of Uganda. Even under the international laws on genocide, public incitement characterized by a call for criminal action to a number of individuals in a particular place or members of the general public at large, by such means as the mass media, constitutes an international crime. To show that the law of incitement to violence is not only meant for opposition politicians, an example must be made of Ecweru.
Re: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru
Obviously there is a big difference between inciting people to genocide and inciting people to kill enemies of the state or crimianls such as rebels. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Prosecute RDC Ecweru Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 13:43:38 EDT Prosecute RDC Ecweru . A HREF=http://allafrica.com/publishers.html?passed_name=The%20Monitorpassed_location=Kampala;The Monitor/A (Kampala) OPINION August 4, 2003 Posted to the web August 4, 2003 Stephen Mwanga Kampala At the height of the 2001 acrimonious presidential election campaigns, two leading opposition politicians; Rubaga South MP. Ken Lukyamuzi and former Kampala mayor Nasser Ssebagala were arrested and charged with incitement to violence. The former was accused of inciting people at a political rally in his constituency when he allegedly called for the butchering of all Rwandese who dared to vote in the presidential elections. While the latter was accused of inciting people not to pay graduated tax. The two were charged under Penel Code sections 50(a) and 50(b) respectively. Though both politicians were acquitted, they were subjected to gross violation of their fundamental human rights. A number of other opposition politicians have fallen victim to this law. The question is; why does government enforce this law only when opposition politicians are the suspects? Recently, Kasese resident district commissioner Musa Ecweru was quoted in the media urging Iteso in Kumi, Soroti, and Katakwi, to kill every adult rebel they capture. A number of radio stations in Kampala up to a few weeks ago, were playing recordings of him saying that whereas rebels below the age of 18 years were to be arrested, those above that age should be showed their way to heaven. Ecweru's reasoning is based on the fact that the rebels, mainly Acholis, are exporting insurgency into Teso region. Ecweru now heads a militia group trained specifically to hunt, capture and kill the would be prisoners of war. According to a story; UPDF kills 5 more LRA rebels, (The Monitor July 18), Ecweru's militia group killed nine of the LRA rebels. No problem if the rebels die fighting. But it must be borne in mind that Ecweru's call for the killing of captured rebels is criminal under section 50a(l) of the Penal Code Act of Uganda. This section states that any person who without any lawful excuse, publishes, prints or to any assembly makes any statement indicating or implying that it would be incumbent or desirable to do any acts calculated to bring death or physical injury to any person or to any class or community of persons, is guilty of an offence and is under subsection(b) of the same law liable on conviction to an imprisonment for a term of 3 years. Ecweru clearly knows the role of the media - to disseminate information - and how the media was used in the 1994 Rwandan genocide. This means he had knowledge of the broader context of his statement. By the mere fact that he made such a statement through the media is enough evidence to prove that he had the mens rea (criminal mind) to commit the offence of incitement to violence within the meaning of section 50a of the Penal Code of Uganda. Even under the international laws on genocide, public incitement characterized by a call for criminal action to a number of individuals in a particular place or members of the general public at large, by such means as the mass media, constitutes an international crime. To show that the law of incitement to violence is not only meant for opposition politicians, an example must be made of Ecweru. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
