Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo
Mr. Yaobang, It may surprise you to learnthat we, the Baganda,recallrecall our suffering and misery in the 1980s at the hands of that ogre of Ugandapolitics, Obote. A lot of Kiganda blood was spilled in the battle to free Uganda of Obote and his goons. That experience sensitized us to war and its consquencies. However people with short memories like you cannot seem to be able to remember, it is these very same Baganda who you and your ilk are fond of disparaging at every opportunity, who incessantly call for an end for an end to this unfortunate war in Northern Uganda. In fact that was gist of my article in the Monitor refuting the writings of of another fellow with your same mindset. I have never been able to understand the insanity of attacking the very people who support you or your position like you people habitually do. I challenge you list what other ethnic group in Uganda, outside of those being victimized, has shown so much concern about this war publicly. But let me save you from embarassment by noting that Mu7 is impermeable to persuasion and is totally indefferent to public opinion that is contrary to his self interests. Several cases in point: e.g. land bill that was popularly opposed in all corners of the country, the referendum, etc etc. If you spent more of your time in analytical pursuits on the situation rather than just sounding off, you might actually convince more people to your viewpoint. After all, 'you catch more flies with honey than vinegar' ... Ssemakula Original Message Follows From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:55:20 + Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. J Ssemakula: Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased! Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:18:56 + Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average.* *Prices may
Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo
There is a Lion here comming to eat me. Em The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original Message - From: J Ssemakula To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Mr. Yaobang, It may surprise you to learnthat we, the Baganda,recallrecall our suffering and misery in the 1980s at the hands of that ogre of Ugandapolitics, Obote. A lot of Kiganda blood was spilled in the battle to free Uganda of Obote and his goons. That experience sensitized us to war and its consquencies. However people with short memories like you cannot seem to be able to remember, it is these very same Baganda who you and your ilk are fond of disparaging at every opportunity, who incessantly call for an end for an end to this unfortunate war in Northern Uganda. In fact that was gist of my article in the Monitor refuting the writings of of another fellow with your same mindset. I have never been able to understand the insanity of attacking the very people who support you or your position like you people habitually do. I challenge you list what other ethnic group in Uganda, outside of those being victimized, has shown so much concern about this war publicly. But let me save you from embarassment by noting that Mu7 is impermeable to persuasion and is totally indefferent to public opinion that is contrary to his self interests. Several cases in point: e.g. land bill that was popularly opposed in all corners of the country, the referendum, etc etc. If you spent more of your time in analytical pursuits on the situation rather than just sounding off, you might actually convince more people to your viewpoint. After all, 'you catch more flies with honey than vinegar' ... Ssemakula Original Message Follows From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:55:20 + Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. J Ssemakula: Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased! Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:18:56 + Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined
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J Ssemakula, I dont have to "convince" you (or your other felllow Baganda of the same ilk)about the sufferring in the north, common! You read it everyday even in the Museveni government mouthpiece - the newvision. For starters, we now have a second muganda VP under dictator Museveni. What has he said about the northern war? Give me aqoute of what sychophant muganda Bukenya has said so far about the suffering in the north. ZIP! By the way, the "suffering" that happened to the Banganda in Luwero was due to Museveni, who overthrew a legitimately elected government. Was Museveni in Luwero to play soccer? He killed by night and came back to mourn in the morning. How come he knew where the skulls were? Now dictator Musevenic is applying the same tactics in northern Uganda - for the last 17 years! We will never forget! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 02:28:24 + Mr. Yaobang, It may surprise you to learnthat we, the Baganda,recallrecall our suffering and misery in the 1980s at the hands of that ogre of Ugandapolitics, Obote. A lot of Kiganda blood was spilled in the battle to free Uganda of Obote and his goons. That experience sensitized us to war and its consquencies. However people with short memories like you cannot seem to be able to remember, it is these very same Baganda who you and your ilk are fond of disparaging at every opportunity, who incessantly call for an end for an end to this unfortunate war in Northern Uganda. In fact that was gist of my article in the Monitor refuting the writings of of another fellow with your same mindset. I have never been able to understand the insanity of attacking the very people who support you or your position like you people habitually do. I challenge you list what other ethnic group in Uganda, outside of those being victimized, has shown so much concern about this war publicly. But let me save you from embarassment by noting that Mu7 is impermeable to persuasion and is totally indefferent to public opinion that is contrary to his self interests. Several cases in point: e.g. land bill that was popularly opposed in all corners of the country, the referendum, etc etc. If you spent more of your time in analytical pursuits on the situation rather than just sounding off, you might actually convince more people to your viewpoint. After all, 'you catch more flies with honey than vinegar' ... Ssemakula Original Message Follows From: "Y Yaobang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:55:20 + Groove on the latest from the hot new rock groups! Get downloads, videos, and more here. J Ssemakula: Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased! Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:18:56 + Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8.
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Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average.* *Prices may vary by service area. As a follow up to Munini's situation, we should always reflect on this: First They Came for the Jews First they came for the Jewsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a Jew.Then they came for the Communistsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a Communist.Then they came for the trade unionistsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for meand there was no one leftto speak out for me.Pastor Martin Niemöller The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. WBK, What Munini needs is unwavering support from us and those who strongly believe that something has seriously gone wrong with our society. What guarantee do we have that the Ofondos of Uganda will not turn their filthy mouth against all those who are working for an acceptable conditions of Ugandans. Whatever differences of opinion we may have in our debating here for the future of Uganda, we must always stand solidly behind whenever one of us is being singled out by a system that has failed to see the light. Situations like this one should truly unite us with a common resolve, for the struggle of Uganda's future does not deal with the Presidential seat only but covers the whole aspect of Uganda's society.. The struggle should be intesified when innocent citizens are being arrongantly attacked because they have pointed out what has caused our society to fail. The challenge is ours, whether we let Munini face Goliath alone, or we rally around him for the moral support and clout he needs.Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo
J Ssemakula: Why dont you blame Museveni on Luwero? Your postings are sobiased! Also, you state "... Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery...". BUT are the Ugandan Southerners (you and your fellow Baganda, for example) and westerners anymore interested in the suffering of their countrymen in the north and north-east? No, they are not. If they were, there would not be such a tragedy and genocide anymore. Just look: what proportion of southerners/westerners are in real power now in Uganda, and thus able to influence events in the country? Anyway, like someone one wrote yesterday in a Ugandan daily, in Uganda what goes around will definitely come around! y From: "J Ssemakula" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 01:18:56 + Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. Mw. Oryema, We used this very poem during the time when Obote's goons were decimating us in the infamous "Luweero Triangle" in the early 1980s. I thnk it was around the time this monster swore that he would turn the entire District of West Nile into a National Park! Funny how some things never change! But who could have imagined that Africans are so very much more cruel than colonialists that we used rile against!!! Man's inhumanity to Man seems to be epitomized amongst Africans.Fortunately, this time around, there is much more wider knowledge of the tragedy in in Northern Uganda, only the international community does not seem to be terribly interested in our misery. Original Message Follows From: "Oryema Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FedsNet] Fredom is not absolute even in America-Opondo Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:42 + Enjoy online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average.* *Prices may vary by service area. As a follow up to Munini's situation, we should always reflect on this: First They Came for the Jews First they came for the Jewsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a Jew.Then they came for the Communistsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a Communist.Then they came for the trade unionistsand I did not speak outbecause I was not a trade unionist.Then they came for meand there was no one leftto speak out for me.Pastor Martin Niemöller The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. WBK, What Munini needs is unwavering support from us and those who strongly believe that something has seriously gone wrong with our society. What guarantee do we have that the Ofondos of Uganda will not turn their filthy mouth against all those who are working for an acceptable conditions of Ugandans. Whatever differences of opinion we may have in our debating here for the future of Uganda, we must always stand solidly behind whenever one of us is being singled out by a system that has failed to see the light. Situations like this one should truly unite us with a common resolve, for the struggle of Uganda's future does not deal with the Presidential seat only but covers the whole aspect of Uganda's society.. The struggle should be intesified when innocent citizens are being arrongantly attacked because they have pointed out what has caused our society to fail. The challenge is ours, whether we let Munini face Goliath alone, or we rally around him for the moral support
