RE: ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution
What good is Museveni's "best" education if he can not make the AK47, etc?? Who ever manufactures the AK47, etc controlls who uses it. Supplies of the AK47 can go out any time. If Mu7 is to talk big, maybe he should start up a weaponary manufacturing industry in Uganda. Then, maybe he can clap his jaws to sensible people.Y Yaobang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In dictator Museveni's Uganda, the 'best' education is the military one -- how to use AK47, etc., at Kyankwazi! y >From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: undisclosed-recipients: ; >Subject: ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:27:06 + > >The Outsourcing Revolution. > > >India now produces 60% more engineers and scientists than the USA. >And what scares the shit out of the USA is that they are even >smarter. > >Over 7 years ago we were crying here on this net, to Hon J NKuuhe >and our very beloved Higher Education Minister, Hon Dr Abel >Rwendeire, to change/overhaul Uganda's curricula. > >i.e. > >1. Introduce Triple Maths in all schools - including 'Discrete >Maths'. > >2. Throw away the old crazy Biology where teaching was that "a tree >consists of three parts: the leaves, the stem and the roots", and >replace it with a new Biology that prepares students for the new >world of molecular Biology. > >3. Introduce basic computer science. > >4. Get the whole country, from m7 downwards to zero in on this >National effort. > >I sent them Canadian up-to-date syllabi for Maths, Bio, Comp Sc, >etc to compare with. I even sent some to Teachers' college - >Kyambogo. > >But the Church/Mosque wanted more timetable slots for religion >instead. They made Hon Rwendeire a political liability to m7, and he >was moved from Education to Industry. > >Now we hear Uganda is banking on sending all her children to go >abroad to wash latrines - 'kyeyo'. > >As was mentioned then, with an exceptionally trained workforce, tons >of jobs and billions of $ will always flow to Uganda. It is still >true today. > >Maybe it is time to take stock and see how we are doing!! > >Mitayo Potosi > > > >The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution > >By Naeem Mohaiemen, AlterNet >January 25, 2004 > >Two years ago, I lost my credit card on a trip. Dialing the American >Express 800 number, I asked the polite customer rep to read the list >of recent charges. As she went through each charge, I noticed >something familiar about the way she said words like "Duane Reade" >and "Blockbuster." > >"Excuse me," I interrupted. "Where are you?" > >"Oh, we're the American Express Call Center in Bangalore, India," >she replied. > >Over the coming months, I started noticing this phenomenon more >often. When I called AOL trying to cancel my account for the fifth >time, the helpful woman giving instructions was in India. Palm >Pilot's "Level 1" help desk seemed to be in America, but when they >were stymied and bumped me to "Level 2," an unmistakably Indian >voice came on. Recently, I even started getting sales calls hawking >credit cards from India. > >A few months back, a new pattern began to emerge. Suddenly, the >customer service reps weren't eager to divulge where they were from. >"Oh, we're not allowed to disclose location," said one nervous >voice. It was very cloak and dagger. Maybe it's some new security >measure, I thought to myself. > >Then the New York Times article, titled "We're From Bangalore (But >We're Not Allowed To Tell You)" revealed all. Indian call centers >now had to acquire American accents and generic Anglo names, >displaying a new-found nervousness in the face of an incipient >backlash: Dell was closing its Indian call center in the face of >protests; New Jersey was trying to pass a bill blocking outsourcing >to India; and an angry Indiana politician huffed, "I represent >Indiana, not India!" > >All Roads Lead to India > >India is at the red-hot center of the Outsourcing Revolution. Thirty >percent of all new Information Technology (IT) work for U.S. >companies is now done abroad, mostly in India. McKinsey Consulting >estimated that three countries received $20 billion in outsourcing >revenue from the U.S. in 2002: Ireland ($8.3 billion), India ($7.7 >billi
RE: ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution
In dictator Museveni's Uganda, the 'best' education is the military one -- how to use AK47, etc., at Kyankwazi! y >From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: undisclosed-recipients: ; >Subject: ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 02:27:06 + > >The Outsourcing Revolution. > > >India now produces 60% more engineers and scientists than the USA. >And what scares the shit out of the USA is that they are even >smarter. > >Over 7 years ago we were crying here on this net, to Hon J NKuuhe >and our very beloved Higher Education Minister, Hon Dr Abel >Rwendeire, to change/overhaul Uganda's curricula. > >i.e. > >1. Introduce Triple Maths in all schools - including 'Discrete >Maths'. > >2. Throw away the old crazy Biology where teaching was that "a tree >consists of three parts: the leaves, the stem and the roots", and >replace it with a new Biology that prepares students for the new >world of molecular Biology. > >3. Introduce basic computer science. > >4. Get the whole country, from m7 downwards to zero in on this >National effort. > >I sent them Canadian up-to-date syllabi for Maths, Bio, Comp Sc, >etc to compare with. I even sent some to Teachers' college - >Kyambogo. > >But the Church/Mosque wanted more timetable slots for religion >instead. They made Hon Rwendeire a political liability to m7, and he >was moved from Education to Industry. > >Now we hear Uganda is banking on sending all her children to go >abroad to wash latrines - 'kyeyo'. > >As was mentioned then, with an exceptionally trained workforce, tons >of jobs and billions of $ will always flow to Uganda. It is still >true today. > >Maybe it is time to take stock and see how we are doing!! > >Mitayo Potosi > >AlterNet headlines. Share them. Forward them to your family, >friends and co-workers, or sign them up for a free subscription: >http://lists.alternet.org/headlines > > >The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution > >By Naeem Mohaiemen, AlterNet >January 25, 2004 > >Two years ago, I lost my credit card on a trip. Dialing the American >Express 800 number, I asked the polite customer rep to read the list >of recent charges. As she went through each charge, I noticed >something familiar about the way she said words like "Duane Reade" >and "Blockbuster." > >"Excuse me," I interrupted. "Where are you?" > >"Oh, we're the American Express Call Center in Bangalore, India," >she replied. > >Over the coming months, I started noticing this phenomenon more >often. When I called AOL trying to cancel my account for the fifth >time, the helpful woman giving instructions was in India. Palm >Pilot's "Level 1" help desk seemed to be in America, but when they >were stymied and bumped me to "Level 2," an unmistakably Indian >voice came on. Recently, I even started getting sales calls hawking >credit cards from India. > >A few months back, a new pattern began to emerge. Suddenly, the >customer service reps weren't eager to divulge where they were from. >"Oh, we're not allowed to disclose location," said one nervous >voice. It was very cloak and dagger. Maybe it's some new security >measure, I thought to myself. > >Then the New York Times article, titled "We're From Bangalore (But >We're Not Allowed To Tell You)" revealed all. Indian call centers >now had to acquire American accents and generic Anglo names, >displaying a new-found nervousness in the face of an incipient >backlash: Dell was closing its Indian call center in the face of >protests; New Jersey was trying to pass a bill blocking outsourcing >to India; and an angry Indiana politician huffed, "I represent >Indiana, not India!" > >All Roads Lead to India > >India is at the red-hot center of the Outsourcing Revolution. Thirty >percent of all new Information Technology (IT) work for U.S. >companies is now done abroad, mostly in India. McKinsey Consulting >estimated that three countries received $20 billion in outsourcing >revenue from the U.S. in 2002: Ireland ($8.3 billion), India ($7.7 >billion) and Canada ($3.7 billion). Analysts forecast that by 2008 >Indian IT services and back-office support will grow to a $57 >billion a year industry with four million workers. > >International
ugnet_: The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution
The Outsourcing Revolution. India now produces 60% more engineers and scientists than the USA. And what scares the shit out of the USA is that they are even smarter. Over 7 years ago we were crying here on this net, to Hon J NKuuhe and our very beloved Higher Education Minister, Hon Dr Abel Rwendeire, to change/overhaul Uganda's curricula. i.e. 1. Introduce Triple Maths in all schools - including 'Discrete Maths'. 2. Throw away the old crazy Biology where teaching was that "a tree consists of three parts: the leaves, the stem and the roots", and replace it with a new Biology that prepares students for the new world of molecular Biology. 3. Introduce basic computer science. 4. Get the whole country, from m7 downwards to zero in on this National effort. I sent them Canadian up-to-date syllabi for Maths, Bio, Comp Sc, etc to compare with. I even sent some to Teachers' college - Kyambogo. But the Church/Mosque wanted more timetable slots for religion instead. They made Hon Rwendeire a political liability to m7, and he was moved from Education to Industry. Now we hear Uganda is banking on sending all her children to go abroad to wash latrines - 'kyeyo'. As was mentioned then, with an exceptionally trained workforce, tons of jobs and billions of $ will always flow to Uganda. It is still true today. Maybe it is time to take stock and see how we are doing!! Mitayo Potosi AlterNet headlines. Share them. Forward them to your family, friends and co-workers, or sign them up for a free subscription: http://lists.alternet.org/headlines The Dark Side of the Outsourcing Revolution By Naeem Mohaiemen, AlterNet January 25, 2004 Two years ago, I lost my credit card on a trip. Dialing the American Express 800 number, I asked the polite customer rep to read the list of recent charges. As she went through each charge, I noticed something familiar about the way she said words like "Duane Reade" and "Blockbuster." "Excuse me," I interrupted. "Where are you?" "Oh, we're the American Express Call Center in Bangalore, India," she replied. Over the coming months, I started noticing this phenomenon more often. When I called AOL trying to cancel my account for the fifth time, the helpful woman giving instructions was in India. Palm Pilot's "Level 1" help desk seemed to be in America, but when they were stymied and bumped me to "Level 2," an unmistakably Indian voice came on. Recently, I even started getting sales calls hawking credit cards from India. A few months back, a new pattern began to emerge. Suddenly, the customer service reps weren't eager to divulge where they were from. "Oh, we're not allowed to disclose location," said one nervous voice. It was very cloak and dagger. Maybe it's some new security measure, I thought to myself. Then the New York Times article, titled "We're From Bangalore (But We're Not Allowed To Tell You)" revealed all. Indian call centers now had to acquire American accents and generic Anglo names, displaying a new-found nervousness in the face of an incipient backlash: Dell was closing its Indian call center in the face of protests; New Jersey was trying to pass a bill blocking outsourcing to India; and an angry Indiana politician huffed, "I represent Indiana, not India!" All Roads Lead to India India is at the red-hot center of the Outsourcing Revolution. Thirty percent of all new Information Technology (IT) work for U.S. companies is now done abroad, mostly in India. McKinsey Consulting estimated that three countries received $20 billion in outsourcing revenue from the U.S. in 2002: Ireland ($8.3 billion), India ($7.7 billion) and Canada ($3.7 billion). Analysts forecast that by 2008 Indian IT services and back-office support will grow to a $57 billion a year industry with four million workers. International multinationals have had offices in India for almost a decade, and they include Morgan Stanley, Citigroup, Intel, IBM, Cisco, Motorola, HP, Oracle, Yahoo, Ernst & Young, HSBC, and, of course, the trailblazer in "discovering" India, Microsoft. But Indian offices whose main business is outsourced work from the U.S. are a relatively new phenomenon. Recent high profile firms include MphasiS, which processed tax returns of 20,000 Americans this year (analysts predict that 200,000 U.S. tax returns will be processed in India next year). Then there is OfficeTiger, which employs 1,200 people to do research and analysis for eight Wall Street firms. Finally, GE Capital's four Indian centers design statistical models, prepare data for GE annual reports, write software, and process $35 billion of global invoices India dominates outsourced IT, accounting and financial services. Ambitious firms have now expanded to food-stamp paperwork, auto engineering, drug research, airline industry and work for the U.S. Post
