[uknof] Telehouse Norh/East Cross Connects

[Rod Beck]

Hi Gentlemen,


What do pricing and delivery look like today on fiber cross connects between 
North and East? And is there any third party who can beat the House on these 
two key variables? I am confident the answer is no to the second question, but 
the cost of asking a question is rather low. []


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From: uknof  on behalf of James Bensley 

Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:56 AM
To: uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk
Subject: Re: [uknof] IS-IS Multi-Instance

On 2 September 2016 at 09:04, Matjaz Straus Istenic  wrote:
>> On 1. sep. 2016, at 15:11, Neil J. McRae  wrote:
>>
>> What's the use case?
>
> Great question :-)
> Well, it is about people not accepting working and well proved network 
> designs and have a tendency to reinvent the wheel ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Matjaž
>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 1 Sep 2016, at 13:57, Matjaz Straus Istenic  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> is somebody aware of a equipment that supports IS-IS Multi-Instance RFC 
>>> 6822? I’ve seen that Cisco IOS XR can run multiple instances of IS-IS but 
>>> I’m not sure if those are just multiple processes or true instances 
>>> according to the RFC 6822. Same goes for Junos OS — instances or just 
>>> multi-process? Well, IS-IS Multi-Instance is mentioned in Alcatel-Lucent 
>>> user guides...


The most obvious use case I can see for it is SR, however we can
already to do this with multi-topology IS-IS. I guess you could do it
with MI-IS-IS too. Do you really need multi instance? If not it sounds
like you can use MT-IS-IS instead which does work in IOS-XR and Junos.

We have lab testeed MT-IS-IS with SR and "it works" in IOS-XR. It's in
a bleeding edge Junos image so I haven't had a chance to test it in
Junos yet or do iner-op testing.

Cheers,
James.

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Re: [uknof] Looking for Providers of 10GB circuits within Dublin, Ireland

[Rod Beck]

Leasing dark fiber may be considerably less expensive.


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From: uknof uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk on behalf of Tema Hassan 
tema.has...@eunetworks.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:13 PM
To: Giles Coochey
Cc: uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk
Subject: Re: [uknof] Looking for Providers of 10GB circuits within Dublin, 
Ireland

Hi Giles,

We have presence in those sites. If interested, I can pass your details onto 
one of my colleagues.

http://www.eunetworks.com/location-finder/



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On 28 August 2015 at 11:56, Giles Coochey 
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Hi All,

I have a client who is trying to procure a number of 10GB circuits within 
Dublin, Ireland, DC -- DC interconnects. Their DCs are Interxion, Hume Avenue 
and HP, Citywest Avenue.

Could someone point me in the direction of the top 3 providers to approach for 
services in this area?

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Re: [uknof] Looking for Providers of 10GB circuits within Dublin, Ireland

[Rod Beck]

For DF UPC, ESB telecom, Eunetwork , Aurora Telecom and Viatel.
For 10 gig wave: Eunetwork, E-net, Magnet Network, Colt, UPC, Airspeed, Eircom, 
Vodafone Ireland, Viatel and Aurora Telecom.

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Re: [uknof] Layer 2 from Ireland to london

[Rod Beck]

Hold on, Nick.

1. Choose whatever route protection method you want. MPLS fast reroute (not 
really that fast but probably adequate for lots of IP traffic), traditional SDH 
50 millisecond failover, optical protection schemes, etc.

I don't care. It is not the point.

2. For small players and smaller circuits route protection is much more 
convenient, and yes, there is a cost to managing lots of circuits.

This is why I get requests for protected circuits. They are optimal given the 
client's situation. End of Story.

3. by the way, route protection does not double the price of a circuit. Not at 
Hibernia nor any competitive provider.

4. PS: Don't put words into my mouth.

Regards,

Roderick.

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From: uknof uknof-boun...@lists.uknof.org.uk on behalf of Nick Hilliard 
n...@foobar.org
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 10:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [uknof] Layer 2 from Ireland to london

On 10/04/2015 18:17, Rod Beck wrote:
 A single protected circuit is easier.

easier for what?

You end up paying 2x for a mechanism which still has a single point of
failure designed in to your underlying network infrastructure - namely the
routers connected to each end - while completely failing to get any
potential advantage from the wave which isn't being used.  This is a silly
way of handling resiliency in an IP world because IP networks assume that
the underlying network infrastructure doesn't work like this.
Circuit-switched networks do, but the vast majority of the world's traffic
runs on ip these days and will continue to do so in future.

All the while, you'll end up paying exorbitant charges for network
termination kit because equipment vendors know that they can royally gouge
people for STM capable kit compared to e.g. 1G or 10G router ports.  It's
even worse when you get into multiple wave service because your scaling
costs go up by 2x more than necessary and you completely lose out on
economy of scale.

If you want actual resiliency at a reasonable cost point, get multiple
unprotected waves from different providers and run bfd + mpls FRR.
Protected circuits are a relic from a bygone era with increasingly little
relevance in today's networks.

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Re: [uknof] The operator's operator

[Rod Beck]

Let me display my ignorance. When I left telecom in 2011, most regions outside 
of London metro were expensive except for a few beaten down routes like London 
- Manchester which are as low as 1.000 GDP per month at the 10 GigE level.

Has that changed? What would a 10 GigE wave cost from Brigton to London?

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Re: [uknof] The operator's operator

[Rod Beck]

The most important is to get technology companies to locate there. Quality of 
life, last mile connectivity, affordable rents, quick access to London, and tax 
advantages. Technology companes congregate together like any tribe.

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[uknof] HTTP2

[Rod Beck]

Hi,

Does it live up to all the hype?

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2015/02/18/http2

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Re: [uknof] Link from THE to THN?

[Rod Beck]

Well, the point is that only Telehouse can install fiber between the two 
buildings. Everyone is reselling their product based on a volume purchase. Buy 
a big bundle and sell individual pairs.

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Re: [uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

Hi Martin,

Iceland's disaster recovery potential I understand. If the world comes to an 
end, it is one of the better places to be.

It may, however, be too far away. Manchester or Northern Ireland appears good 
enough for most purposes.

Just to correct a prevalent stereotype about Iceland, the main of electric 
power is not geothermal, it is hydro. To be precise 75% of electricity is 
generated by hydro.

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Re: [uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

Green is a dead end. Germany has proved that. :) France beats Germany on CO2 
per capita emissions by over 40%.

But to be get back to the subject, I have clients constantly trying to reduce 
Manchester/London round trip latency and that it is fraction of 30 milliseconds.

So would they tolerate 30 milliseconds for their applications? I don't know. 
Not sure why they are so sensitive.

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Re: [uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

Iceland might offer some interesting possibilities for cooling and low cost 
power.


It might be offset by latency as well as undersea connectivity costs.


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Re: [uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

Not really. Areas of recent geologic activity can be avoided. Most cable damage 
in shallow waters is due to fishing. Irish Sea is notorious. It happens even 
though the cables are armored. Burying helps to protect them.


No, the real issue is that no body got the power savings they were expecting. 
There are several aluminum smelter plants in Iceland, but they operate on a 
very large scale. A small data center will not generate huge interest from 
local power providers. Too small. And everyone knows everyone there so 
collusion ...



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Re: [uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

Is it possible to use passive heat exchangers in these facilities? I ask the 
question because I have passivhaus ventilation in my Budapest properties. They 
rely passive heat exchangers to bring in fresh air while remaining close to 
temperature neutral (you don't want to cool an apartment in the winter and warm 
in the summer).

My guess is that the answer is no because the heat is simply too great.

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[uknof] Air Conditioning Versus Water Cooling

[Rod Beck]

I came across a collocation company that uses water cooling to reduce its 
reliance on air conditioning. Is this standard in the industry? Does the 
approach work well?


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[uknof] Curiosity Question - VPS

[Rod Beck]

Hi,


How oversubscribed are these virtual private servers? I understand there is no 
simple answer to that question. But any insight would be appreciated.


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[uknof] Cloud Services

[Rod Beck]

Hi Folks, I left telecom in 2011 and spent the last three years building a real 
estate business in Budapest. I am back to earn more money to expand that 
business.


What has struck me is that every ISP, IT integrator, etc. claims to be cloud 
service provider. When I left telecom everyone was content delivery network.


Undoubtedly the low price of IP and strong broadband penetration has made cloud 
services more viable, but a lot of looks like pure marketing fluff. Chasing the 
latest fad.


So is the Revolution real or was it created in an advertising agency?


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