Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Wed, 15 May 2019 05:56:54 -0700
Asmus Freytag via Unicode  wrote:

> On 5/15/2019 4:22 AM, Costello, Roger L. via Unicode wrote:
> Hello Unicode experts!
> 
> Which is correct:
> 
> (a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using
> UTF-8.
> 
> (b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with
> UTF-8.
> 
> (c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.
> 
> (d) Something else (what?)
> 
> /Roger
> 
> 
> I would say I've seen all three uses about equally.
> 
> If you search for each phrase, though, "in" comes up as the most
> frequent one.
> 
> That would make the last one, or simply "in UTF-8" (that is, without
> the "encoded") good choices for general audiences.

Additionally, the latter is about the current form of the string; the
others refer to its history, suggesting it might once have been
represented in some other way.

Richard.


Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Rebecca T via Unicode
I think that colloquially “the file contains a UTF-8 string” is best, but
perhaps not in more formal communications.

On Wed, May 15, 2019, 7:24 AM Costello, Roger L. via Unicode <
unicode@unicode.org> wrote:

> Hello Unicode experts!
>
> Which is correct:
>
> (a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.
>
> (b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.
>
> (c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.
>
> (d) Something else (what?)
>
> /Roger
>
>


Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Neil Shadrach via Unicode
(e) The input file contains a UTF-8 encoded string.

Ar Mer, 15 Mai 2019 am 14:22 Andre Schappo via Unicode 
ysgrifennodd:

>
>
> > On May 15, 31 Heisei, at 12:22 pm, Costello, Roger L. via Unicode <
> unicode@unicode.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Unicode experts!
> >
> > Which is correct:
> >
> > (a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.
> >
> > (b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.
> >
> > (c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.
> >
> > (d) Something else (what?)
> >
> > /Roger
> >
>
> (d) The input file contains a string which is UTF-8 encoded.
>
> André Schappo
>
>
>


Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Andre Schappo via Unicode



> On May 15, 31 Heisei, at 12:22 pm, Costello, Roger L. via Unicode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Unicode experts!
> 
> Which is correct:
> 
> (a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.
> 
> (b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.
> 
> (c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.
> 
> (d) Something else (what?)
> 
> /Roger
> 

(d) The input file contains a string which is UTF-8 encoded.

André Schappo




Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Asmus Freytag via Unicode

  
  
On 5/15/2019 4:22 AM, Costello, Roger
  L. via Unicode wrote:


  Hello Unicode experts!

Which is correct:

(a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.

(b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.

(c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.

(d) Something else (what?)

/Roger




I would say I've seen all three uses about
equally.
If you search for each phrase, though, "in"
comes up as the most frequent one.
That would make the last one, or simply "in
UTF-8" (that is, without the "encoded") good choices for general
audiences.
A./
  


  



Re: Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Aleksey Tulinov via Unicode
>From The Unicode® Standard Version 12.0 – Core Specification:

"5.7 Compression
...
Encoding forms defined in Section 2.5, Encoding Forms, have different
storage characteris-
tics. For example, as long as text contains only characters from the
Basic Latin (ASCII)
block, it occupies the same amount of space whether it is encoded with
the UTF-8 or ASCII
codes. Conversely, text consisting of CJK ideographs encoded with
UTF-8 will require
more space than equivalent text encoded with UTF-16."

Hope this helps.

ср, 15 мая 2019 г. в 14:24, Costello, Roger L. via Unicode
:
>
> Hello Unicode experts!
>
> Which is correct:
>
> (a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.
>
> (b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.
>
> (c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.
>
> (d) Something else (what?)
>
> /Roger
>



Correct way to express in English that a string is encoded ... using UTF-8 ... with UTF-8 ... in UTF-8?

2019-05-15 Thread Costello, Roger L. via Unicode
Hello Unicode experts!

Which is correct:

(a) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded using UTF-8.

(b) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded with UTF-8.

(c) The input file contains a string. The string is encoded in UTF-8.

(d) Something else (what?)

/Roger