Re: Manipuri/Meitei customary writing system

2019-10-04 Thread Markus Scherer via Unicode
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:05 PM Richard Wordingham via Unicode <
unicode@unicode.org> wrote:

> > >> Is the use of the Meitei script aspirational or customary?
> > >> Which script is being used for major newspapers, popular books,
> > >> and video captions?
> > >
> > > This may give you some more information:
> > > https://www.atypi.org/conferences/tokyo-2019/programme/activity?a=906
>
> >
> > Sorry, this should have been two separate URIs (about the same talk).
> >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8XxVZkfUkk
> > >
> > > It's a recent talk at ATypI in Tokyo (sponsored by Google, among
> > > others).
>
> So newspaper sales tell us that the Bengali script is still the *usual*
> script for the language.


Yes. FYI in the video, the relevant part is at 14:04-14:34.
My transcription:

"Due to the lack of readership of Meetei Mayek, local newspapers continue
to use Bengali script. On 21st September 2008, Hueiyen Lanpao, a newspaper
company, published the first Meetei Mayek newspaper set entirely using
Meetei Mayek script. Although there have been small columns for Meetei
Mayek in other newspapers, Hueiyen Lanpao is still the only local newspaper
in all of Manipur to be printed using Meetei Mayek script till date."


Earlier the presenter says that Bengali is starting to disappear from
public signage.

Is that a different question to what the 'customary' script is?
>

To me, things like newspapers are among the most indicative of customary
use.

>From what I understand, someone who wants to support this language should
prepare to support both Beng and Mtei, with emphasis on Beng now and Mtei
later.

markus


Re: Manipuri/Meitei customary writing system

2019-10-04 Thread Richard Wordingham via Unicode
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 07:12:59 +
Martin J. Dürst via Unicode  wrote:

> On 2019/10/04 15:35, Martin J. Dürst via Unicode wrote:
> > Hello Markus,
> > 
> > On 2019/10/04 01:53, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:  
> >> Dear Unicoders,
> >>
> >> Is Manipuri/Meitei customarily written in Bangla/Bengali script or
> >> in Meitei script?
> >>
> >> I am looking at
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitei_language#Writing_systems
> >> which seems to describe writing practice in transition, and I
> >> can't quite tell where it stands.
> >>
> >> Is the use of the Meitei script aspirational or customary?
> >> Which script is being used for major newspapers, popular books,
> >> and video captions?  
> > 
> > This may give you some more information:
> > https://www.atypi.org/conferences/tokyo-2019/programme/activity?a=906  
> 
> Sorry, this should have been two separate URIs (about the same talk).
> 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8XxVZkfUkk
> > 
> > It's a recent talk at ATypI in Tokyo (sponsored by Google, among
> > others).

So newspaper sales tell us that the Bengali script is still the *usual*
script for the language.  Is that a different question to
what the 'customary' script is?

Richard.



Re: Manipuri/Meitei customary writing system

2019-10-04 Thread Martin J . Dürst via Unicode
On 2019/10/04 15:35, Martin J. Dürst via Unicode wrote:
> Hello Markus,
> 
> On 2019/10/04 01:53, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:
>> Dear Unicoders,
>>
>> Is Manipuri/Meitei customarily written in Bangla/Bengali script or
>> in Meitei script?
>>
>> I am looking at
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitei_language#Writing_systems which seems
>> to describe writing practice in transition, and I can't quite tell where it
>> stands.
>>
>> Is the use of the Meitei script aspirational or customary?
>> Which script is being used for major newspapers, popular books, and video
>> captions?
> 
> This may give you some more information:
> https://www.atypi.org/conferences/tokyo-2019/programme/activity?a=906

Sorry, this should have been two separate URIs (about the same talk).

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8XxVZkfUkk
> 
> It's a recent talk at ATypI in Tokyo (sponsored by Google, among others).
> 
> Regards,   Martin.
> 



Re: Manipuri/Meitei customary writing system

2019-10-04 Thread Martin J . Dürst via Unicode
Hello Markus,

On 2019/10/04 01:53, Markus Scherer via Unicode wrote:
> Dear Unicoders,
> 
> Is Manipuri/Meitei customarily written in Bangla/Bengali script or
> in Meitei script?
> 
> I am looking at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitei_language#Writing_systems which seems
> to describe writing practice in transition, and I can't quite tell where it
> stands.
> 
> Is the use of the Meitei script aspirational or customary?
> Which script is being used for major newspapers, popular books, and video
> captions?

This may give you some more information:
https://www.atypi.org/conferences/tokyo-2019/programme/activity?a=906https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8XxVZkfUkk

It's a recent talk at ATypI in Tokyo (sponsored by Google, among others).

Regards,   Martin.



Manipuri/Meitei customary writing system

2019-10-03 Thread Markus Scherer via Unicode
Dear Unicoders,

Is Manipuri/Meitei customarily written in Bangla/Bengali script or
in Meitei script?

I am looking at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitei_language#Writing_systems which seems
to describe writing practice in transition, and I can't quite tell where it
stands.

Is the use of the Meitei script aspirational or customary?
Which script is being used for major newspapers, popular books, and video
captions?

Thanks,
markus