Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
I found the following. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Aston#Red_and_yellow_cards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_card It appears that the red card and the yellow card are British inventions and were invented so as to assist communication through the language barrier between a referee and a player at an international football match where the referee and the player may perhaps not speak the same language. My opinion is that it would be a good to encode the cards with variation selector capability such that an author may request monochrome heraldic hatching style or coloured card without heraldic hatching style from plain text. William Overington 2 April 2013 --- On Monday 1 April 2013, Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de wrote: From: Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de Subject: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ... To: unicode@unicode.org Date: Monday, 1 April, 2013, 10:52 In the tradition of today's date to present proposals with a somewhat more entertaining subject than usual, there is: Proposal to encode symbols for penalty cards in the UCS. Until you find it on the usual lists, you can see it at: http://www.acssoft.de/PenaltyV1.pdf - Karl
RE: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
In the same spirit, if the proposed U+1F54F *were* encoded, then it might be easier to respond to the proposal in plain-text mail. -Shawn -Original Message- From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Karl Pentzlin Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 2:52 AM To: unicode@unicode.org Subject: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ... In the tradition of today's date to present proposals with a somewhat more entertaining subject than usual, there is: Proposal to encode symbols for penalty cards in the UCS. Until you find it on the usual lists, you can see it at: http://www.acssoft.de/PenaltyV1.pdf - Karl
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
Nicely done, Karl! It brings back memories. About 50 years ago on April 1st, my father submitted a proposed standard to ANSI for Standard Methods for Preparation of a Dry Martini. Cheers to all, Clive -- Clive P. Hohberger, PhD MBA Managing Director *Clive Hohberger, LLC* +1 847 910 8794 cp...@case.edu On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.dewrote: In the tradition of today's date to present proposals with a somewhat more entertaining subject than usual, there is: Proposal to encode symbols for penalty cards in the UCS. Until you find it on the usual lists, you can see it at: http://www.acssoft.de/PenaltyV1.pdf - Karl
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:52, Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de wrote: In the tradition of today's date to present proposals with a somewhat more entertaining subject than usual, there is: Proposal to encode symbols for penalty cards in the UCS. Until you find it on the usual lists, you can see it at: http://www.acssoft.de/PenaltyV1.pdf I support the encoding of these. This makes good sense from a European perspective. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
I'm sure that some cards are blue. Do they not also deserve a code point? This amounts to color prejudice. If we generalize the proposal, we should encode all the various colors of cards. Further, we could denormalize the red card symbol into combining characters for red and card. This points to a general category of colored combining characters. The only remaining question is whether the colors should be represented in the HSL or HSV color space. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Michael Everson ever...@evertype.comwrote: On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:52, Karl Pentzlin karl-pentz...@acssoft.de wrote: In the tradition of today's date to present proposals with a somewhat more entertaining subject than usual, there is: Proposal to encode symbols for penalty cards in the UCS. Until you find it on the usual lists, you can see it at: http://www.acssoft.de/PenaltyV1.pdf I support the encoding of these. This makes good sense from a European perspective. Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:19:42 -0700 Buck Golemon b...@yelp.com wrote: If we generalize the proposal, we should encode all the various colors of cards. Further, we could denormalize the red card symbol into combining characters for red and card. This points to a general category of colored combining characters. The only remaining question is whether the colors should be represented in the HSL or HSV color space. We don't do that for dragons, apples or large circles: 1F004;MAHJONG TILE RED DRAGON;So;0;ON;N; 1F005;MAHJONG TILE GREEN DRAGON;So;0;ON;N; 1F006;MAHJONG TILE WHITE DRAGON;So;0;ON;N; 1F34E;RED APPLE;So;0;ON;N; 1F34F;GREEN APPLE;So;0;ON;N; 1F534;LARGE RED CIRCLE;So;0;ON;N; 1F535;LARGE BLUE CIRCLE;So;0;ON;N; Richard.
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
On 2013-04-01 12:19 PM, Buck Golemon wrote: I'm sure that some cards are blue. Do they not also deserve a code point? This amounts to color prejudice. If we generalize the proposal, we should encode all the various colors of cards. Further, we could denormalize the red card symbol into combining characters for red and card. This points to a general category of colored combining characters. The only remaining question is whether the colors should be represented in the HSL or HSV color space. Variation selectors! -- Curtis Clarkhttp://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark Biological Sciences +1 909 869 4140 Cal Poly Pomona, Pomona CA 91768
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
Don't forget transparencies. So you'll several color models : HSL, HSV, RGB, G, YCC, YUV, all of them possibly with an additin alpha channel. Add also the parameters for their scaling and linearity (or non linearity : exponential A-law, mu-law, logarithmic, sinusoïdal, inverted square plus 1...), and their precision (in bits) on each channel, plus conventions of ordering of bytes, bits, and multiplexing in channels like YCr/YCb, and questions relative to their frequency of sampling... Finally add the question of multicolor objects (not just one foreground color, but also a background and multiple foregrounds for describing the color of the card itself, and the colors of subglyphs drawn on them... And add dynamically changing colors and create animations and you'll need another dimension for time (e.g. flashing glyphs)... 2013/4/2 Curtis Clark li...@curtisclark.org: On 2013-04-01 12:19 PM, Buck Golemon wrote: I'm sure that some cards are blue. Do they not also deserve a code point? This amounts to color prejudice. If we generalize the proposal, we should encode all the various colors of cards. Further, we could denormalize the red card symbol into combining characters for red and card. This points to a general category of colored combining characters. The only remaining question is whether the colors should be represented in the HSL or HSV color space. Variation selectors! -- Curtis Clarkhttp://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark Biological Sciences +1 909 869 4140 Cal Poly Pomona, Pomona CA 91768
Re: If Unicode wants to show the Red Card to someone ...
On 4/1/2013 12:19 PM, Buck Golemon wrote: The only remaining question is whether the colors should be represented in the HSL or HSV color space. Go HSV http://www.hsv.de/news/!
