Re: New document.

2003-03-17 Thread Otto Stolz
Yung-Fong Tang wrote:

could you point out which symbol in that two images need to be proposed?
either by using red ciricle on the image or tell use the surrounding text.
Thanks


http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/genealog/




Re: New document.

2003-03-14 Thread Otto Stolz
Dominikus Scherkl had written:
 Has anybody meanwhile contributed a proposal
 regarding the missing genealogical symbols ?
 (after Otto Stolz's message from 24.02.2003 I wondered this
 was not proposed long ago - or was it and was rejected for
 some reason?!?).
So do I -- however, I am not in the position to author
a formal proposition: I am not able to provide a font,
and I do not have the time for a research beyond the
evidence I have already given.
Rick McGowan wrote:

Do you have any documentation on these?


The two scans under
  http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png
  http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png
are from the authoritative (until July 1996) book on German
orthography: Duden Rechtschreibung der deutschen Sprache
und der Fremdwörter / hrsg. von d. Dudenred. auf d. Grundlage
d. amtl. Rechtschreibregeln. [Red.Bearb.: Werner Scholze-
Stubenrecht unter Mitw. von Dieter Berger ...]. - 19., neu bearb.
u. erw. Aufl. ISBN: 3-411-20900-3.
Best wishes,
  Otto Stolz



Re: New document.

2003-03-14 Thread Rick McGowan
Otto Stolz pointed to:
   http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png
   http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png

Yes, some of those are worth proposing, I would say.

The in-line textual usage is pretty well given by the two images. But  
someone needs to investigate the meanings and supply reasonable character  
names. Then fill out the proposal summary form and submit it.

If someone does a proposal, that would be nice. It won't be me, since I  
don't have any access to the German sources and don't read German.

For reference, Michael Everson recently did a very nice, succinct proposal  
for Guarani and Austral signs. You could use that proposal as a model. It  
was reviewed (and accepted) by UTC last week. Here is a pointer to the  
Guarani proposal:

http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2579.pdf

Cheers,
Rick



Re: New document.

2003-03-14 Thread Yung-Fong Tang


Otto Stolz wrote:

The two scans under
  http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png
  http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png
are from the authoritative (until July 1996) book on German
orthography: Duden Rechtschreibung der deutschen Sprache
und der Fremdwörter / hrsg. von d. Dudenred. auf d. Grundlage
d. amtl. Rechtschreibregeln. [Red.Bearb.: Werner Scholze-
Stubenrecht unter Mitw. von Dieter Berger ...]. - 19., neu bearb.
u. erw. Aufl. ISBN: 3-411-20900-3.
Best wishes,
  Otto Stolz 
could you point out which symbol in that two images need to be proposed?
either by using red ciricle on the image or tell use the surrounding text.
Thanks




Re: New document.

2003-03-14 Thread Kenneth Whistler

 Otto Stolz wrote:
 
 
  The two scans under
http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png
http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png
  are from the authoritative (until July 1996) book on German
  orthography: Duden Rechtschreibung der deutschen Sprache
  und der Fremdwörter / hrsg. von d. Dudenred. auf d. Grundlage
  d. amtl. Rechtschreibregeln. [Red.Bearb.: Werner Scholze-
  Stubenrecht unter Mitw. von Dieter Berger ...]. - 19., neu bearb.
  u. erw. Aufl. ISBN: 3-411-20900-3.
 
  Best wishes,
Otto Stolz 
 
 could you point out which symbol in that two images need to be proposed?
 either by using red ciricle on the image or tell use the surrounding text.
 Thanks

http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/li.png

* geboren   [born] -- asterisk, already encoded
(*) außerehelich geboren  [born in wedlock] -- parentheses and
  asterisk, already encoded
{ }* tot geboren [born dead]  -- dagger and asterisk, already encoded
*{ } am Tag der Geburt gestorben [died on day of birth] -- asterisk
  and dagger, already encoded
{ } getauft [baptized] -- could use U+3030 WAVY DASH

http://www.rz.uni-konstanz.de/Antivirus/tests/re.png

{ } verlobt [engaged] -- could use an existing circle character
{ } verheiratet [married] -- needs new symbol
{ } geschieden [divorced] -- needs new symbol
{ } außereheliche Verbindung [common law marriage ?] -- needs new symbol
{ } gestorben [died]  -- dagger, already encoded
{ } gefallen [killed (in battle?)]  -- needs new crossed swords symbol
{ } begraben [buried] -- needs new coffin symbol
{ } eingeäschert [cremated] -- needs new urn symbol
 (although I suppose people could use one of the 29
  new Linear B vessel ideograms to indicate just what
  kind of urn they were buried in. ;-) )

--Ken




RE: New document.

2003-03-13 Thread Dominikus Scherkl
Hello.

 N2579   Proposal to encode the GUARANI SIGN and the AUSTRAL 
 SIGN in the UCS.

Ah - by the way: Has anybody meanwhile contributed a proposal
regarding the missing genealogical symbols ?
(after Otto Stolz's message from 24.02.2003 I wondered this
was not proposed long ago - or was it and was rejected for
some reason?!?).

Best regards.

-- 
Dominikus Scherkl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: New document.

2003-03-13 Thread Rick McGowan
Do you have any documentation on these?
Rick
Dominikus Scherkl wrote:


Ah - by the way: Has anybody meanwhile contributed a proposal
regarding the missing genealogical symbols ?