[UC] Town Watch Training - Thurs 9/20 6:30pm
The neighbors of 5000 Catharine St have organized an Eyes Ears Town Watch Training. There is NO PATROLING involved with this program. It will train neighbors how to be the Eyes Ears on their streets to keep them safe. There will also be a representative of the West Philadelphia Neighbors Alliance there to discuss a Coordinated Block Watch - a local effort to educate blocks about reducing crime and enhancing safety through communication and proactive behavior. Details: Eyes Ears Neighborhood Town Watch Training with a discussion on Coordinate Block Watch efforts. TOMORROW - Thursday, September 20 @ 6:30pm at the Hickman Temple Main Sanctuary (50th Baltimore) Organized by: The Neighbors of 5000 Catharine St and open to all our West Philadelphia neighbors You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] West Phila Mayoral Forum -- save the date -- Oct 22
I sent this yesterday but it seems to have gone missing in Cyberspace -- so please excuse the duplication if you end up getting it twice. Inter-Cultural Family Services (IFSI) will host a Mayoral Candidate Forum on October 22 at 7:30 pm. This will be exclusively for residents of West Philadelphia. Moderator will be Bob Christian, editor publisher of the University City Review. Michael Nutter and Al Taubenberger have both accepted invitations to participate. I am happy to announce (the $76,000 flackette would have pretended -- and reported -- I said delighted to announce) that this will not be run under the heavy hand of folks sent by the 800-lb gorilla up the street who bring you the pre-framed debates everybody has learned to loathe because they divert attention from the issues everybody really cares about. Save the date. More later. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, and source of great information. PS: Sweetbarkingcheesers may copy this announcement to their little listserv -- with or without the sarcasm. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[UC] Re: [UC-Announce] Free 5 gal buckets
Hi Rich, Do you still have any buckets? Cheers, Mark On 9/9/07, Richard Guffanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All The schools wax their floors during the summer. I collected and cleaned 19 buckets from Girls High. Contact me if you need a 5 gal bucket. Leave your Name Phone Address, and the number of buckets needed. Rich Guffanti Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity-Announce. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You may post announcements to this list, but this list attempts to prevent discussion. Please use univcity to discuss messages on this list. Subscribers of univcity receive all mail to this list. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Cafe Pier One : 4505 Baltimore
Finally... ... A frothy Latte and a real, fresh cooked breakfast! Okay, CAFE PIER ONE has been at 4505 Baltimore for a while, but I finally walked in, and immediately felt at home. I wish I'd made it a habit sooner. A pleasant young lady served a great Latte, comparable to GREENLINE (43rd Baltimore) or SATELLITE (50th Baltimore) but with the added bonus of cooked to order Eggs. Pancakes, Waffles and Breakfast sandwiches are other morning options. For lunch or early dinner their are Soups, Salads and hearty Sandwiches, including some Vegetarian options. It was yummy. The place was clean, nicely decorated and comfortable. I regret my delay in checking it out. And I am glad I have a new designation to correct the course of a dreary morning. They are open Tuesday- Friday 8 AM-7:30 PM Saturday 8:30 AM - 8 PM Sunday 10-5 PM. My favorite breakfast is at 4700 Baltimore. The cook is of the old short order variety and he knows I like hot sauce, onions and peppers in my home fries. But, they only serve a basic cup-o-Joe and I have learned to chase Latte. I suspect I'll be juggling lusts on those days when someone else needs to jolt me into action with good food or liquid caffeine. Neighbors, consider a resolution to dine out at least one a week. Enjoy all of our local restaurants. Singles, dates and old fogies might all benefit from a weekly meal in a new setting. And I hope all our best places will have enough customers so that our enjoyment stretches over the course of years. Further afield, my favorite bakery MATHES BAKERY at 55th Thomas (one block south of Baltimore) remains open Wednesday through Sunday. Karen serves tasty treats at tiny prices. That and her unique and elegant custom ordered cakes make this worth a visit. Best! Liz You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: [westphillyfreecycle] CURB ALERT: one dresser, one vanity
We are looking for some furniture pieces for our next show...we need a sideboard or curio, a small table with or without chairs for inside, a small settee (couch or seat without a back and a patio looking table and chairs (like wicker) it takes place in a summer home/beach house anything can be returned thank you so much gay carducci Gay Carducci-Kuhn Education Director Curio Theatre Company 815 S. 48th St. Philadelphia,Pa. 19143 office 215-525-1350 cell 610-368-4450 www.curiotheatre.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.
[UC] West Phila Mayoral Forum -- save the date -- Oct 22
Inter-Cultural Family Services (IFSI) will host a Mayoral Candidate Forum on October 22 at 7:30 pm. This will be exclusively for residents of West Philadelphia. Moderator will be Bob Christian, editor publisher of the University City Review. Michael Nutter and Al Taubenberger have both accepted invitations to participate. I am happy to announce (the $76,000 flackette would have pretended -- and reported -- I said delighted to announce) that this will not be run under the heavy hand of folks sent by the 800-lb gorilla up the street who bring you the pre-framed debates everybody has learned to loathe because they divert attention from the issues everybody really cares about. Save the date. More later. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, and source of great information. PS: Sweetbarkingcheesers may copy this announcement to their little listserv -- with or without the sarcasm. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
Mariellen Smith wrote: Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and successful list. I know you're trying to be wry and amusing here or whatever, and I appreciate that, but, if we think about it, isn't 'discussing' what's published -- whether in print or online -- pretty much what's always been done? normally? publicly? just because we may happen to be the ones actually creating the content, having the conversation, doesn't mean we can't also discuss creating content or talk about having conversations. also, quoting another listserv or talking about what's posted on another website isn't gossip or bad manners, any more than quoting a newspaper or a teevee show, nor does it take any special philosophy or etiquette. for example, when glenn writes about kyle's list, about list gangs and penn-branded lists, and how kyle 'pre-banned' glenn from taking part in kyle's list, I can point out (with urls) how melani lamond and ross bender were posting to kyle's list before kyle ever announced it here on uclist on july 28. so in addition to 'pre-banning' there was 'pre-enlisting'. here's how that went [and anyone is free to publicly comment on it]: http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/01.html Richard Cardona Fri Jul 27 *** Richard Cardona Director for Information Technology Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-9614 http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/02.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 Testing... http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/04.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 OK, let's see what happens. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/06.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 I'm in the Poconos, hoping to be sending the first email to Kyle's new listserv - but there may be no one on the list yet to receive it. Thanks, Kyle, and I look forward to a productive, friendly, helpful list. We may be able to DOUBLE the number of members the UC List has had, and multiply the number of people willing to actually speak up by a huge number, and really have a great communication system for our neighborhood. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/08.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 there are three of us on it now. there are only 300 people on the uc list. i don't think 600 would be difficult to get. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/09.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 Actually, 370 as of today. Impossible to tell how many of those subscriber addresses are still active. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/10.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 it's such a nearly non-existent slice of this neighborhood. 370 people. at least all the cranks are isolated. - - - - - - - the problem with that last remark (besides its rudeness) is that there is no such thing as being 'isolated' in the public square. uclist and kyle's list are both publicly accessible, and participation in both is subject to public scrutiny and public commentary. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' and expansion moves
UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: from today's dp: http://tinyurl.com/35od8p (coincidentally, this article helps answer questions tony west posed earlier this summer: http://tinyurl.com/2zdqvk) Anthony West wrote: An interesting article. here's another: [thursday's dp]: http://tinyurl.com/2zydee [if anyone can figure out what they mean by mom-and-pop operations, I'd like to hear!] New retail space to add to U. City's scores of stores New Starbucks, EMS set to open in 34th, Chestnut Domus building By: Anthony Campisi A new apartment building opening means new retail options for Penn students and the community. Domus, which is opening its doors at 34th and Chestnut streets to residents this fall, has confirmed four of the five retailers that will occupy its ground floor. Moving in will be a Starbucks, a T-Mobile store, an Eastern Mountain Sports store and a casual restaurant. A Wachovia branch opened in the development on Aug. 20. EMS will be vacating its spot on 36th Street to a larger space in Domus, while Starbucks will keep its location at 34th and Walnut streets open. Penn and the Domus developer, Hanover Development Co., are in negotiations with several possible tenants to fill the restaurant space. EMS is relocating because it wants to offer a larger breath and depth to customers, manager Adam Pflug said. Its current space is about 7,500 square feet large, while the Domus store will feature between 10,000 and 12,000 square feet of retail space; Pflug says the store plans to use the extra area to add road bikes and snowboards to its product line. EMS is closing its current location Sunday and is planning to reopen at Domus in early October. Starbucks is aiming to open Sept. 22 but may delay that date a few days, said Ed Datz, Penn's executive director of real estate. Taken together, these new retail opportunities represent a move toward the University's goal of providing more upscale options to mix in with the mom-and-pop operations on campus, Datz said. Though Datz said the relationship between Hanover, which actually leases the property to retailers, and Penn hasn't been as close as we hoped, he did say that the retail options at Domus are meant to appeal to the residents of the luxury apartment building, as well as Penn students living in King's Court/English House and people staying at the University City Sheraton. Datz called this a more targeted approach specific to the complex and the overall community because the residence isn't located on a major commercial corridor like the Radian apartment complex on the 3900 block of Walnut Street. And the businesses that chose to lease from Domus represent the changing face of University City, as Wachovia's presence attests. Wachovia spokeswoman Barbara Nate said University City offers a lot of opportunities, not only because college students will hopefully frequent the branch, but also because of the influx of people and businesses the area expects to see because of the development of the postal lands and residences like Domus. Though the bank isn't planning on other major branch openings in Philadelphia in the near future, Nate said the bank's absence from the neighborhood was a hole in our network. The area offers a really good mix of potential customers, she said. Calls to the real estate broker hired by Hanover were not returned. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Cafe Pier One : 4505 Baltimore
Finally... ... A frothy Latte and a real, fresh cooked breakfast! CAFE PIER ONE has been at 4505 Baltimore for a while, but I just noticed, walked in, and immediately felt at home. I wish I'd made it a habit sooner. A pleasant young lady served a great Latte, comparable to GREENLINE (43rd Baltimore) or SATELLITE (50th Baltimore) but with the added bonus of a cooked to order Egg. Pancakes, Waffles and Breakfast sandwiches are other morning options. For lunch or early dinner there are Soups, Salads and hearty Sandwiches, including some Vegetarian options. The food was yummy. The place was clean, nicely decorated and comfortable. I regret my delay in checking it out. And I am glad I have a new designation to correct the course of a dreary morning. CP1 is open Tuesday- Friday 8 AM-7:30 PM Saturday 8:30 AM - 8 PM Sunday 10-5 PM. My favorite breakfast is at 4700 Baltimore. The cook is of the old short order variety and he knows I like hot sauce, onions and peppers in my home fries. But, the Kims only serve a basic cup-o-Joe and I have learned to chase Latte. I suspect I'll be juggling lusts on those days when someone else needs to jolt me into action with good food or liquid caffeine. Neighbors, consider a resolution to dine out at least one a week. Enjoy all of our local restaurants. Singles, dates and old fogies might all benefit from a weekly meal in a new setting or directing appetites to old favorites. My motive? A hope that all our best places will have enough customers to keep them open and thriving for many years. Further afield, my favorite bakery has postponed closing, indefinitely. MATHES BAKERY at 55th Thomas (one block south of Baltimore) remains open Wednesday through Sunday. Karen (the third generation) serves tasty treats at tiny prices. Mouth watering pastries, homemade sticky buns, lavish pies and her unique and elegant custom ordered cakes make this real, not just retro bakery, worth a visit. Best! Liz
Re: [UC] Cafe Pier One : 4505 Baltimore
Liz, It's one of my favorites too. Fresh food, well presented and a fair price. Free Wifi too. Joe C. Elizabeth F Campion wrote: Finally... ... A frothy Latte and a real, fresh cooked breakfast! *CAFE PIER ONE* has been at 4505 Baltimore for a while, but I just noticed, walked in, and immediately felt at home. I wish I'd made it a habit sooner. A pleasant young lady served a great Latte, comparable to GREENLINE (43rd Baltimore) or SATELLITE (50th Baltimore) but with the added bonus of a cooked to order Egg. Pancakes, Waffles and Breakfast sandwiches are other morning options. For lunch or early dinner there are Soups, Salads and hearty Sandwiches, including some Vegetarian options. The food was yummy. The place was clean, nicely decorated and comfortable. I regret my delay in checking it out. And I am glad I have a new designation to correct the course of a dreary morning. CP1 is open Tuesday- Friday 8 AM-7:30 PM Saturday 8:30 AM - 8 PM Sunday 10-5 PM. My favorite breakfast is at 4700 Baltimore. The cook is of the old short order variety and he knows I like hot sauce, onions and peppers in my home fries. But, the Kims only serve a basic cup-o-Joe and I have learned to chase Latte. I suspect I'll be juggling lusts on those days when someone else needs to jolt me into action with good food or liquid caffeine. Neighbors, consider a resolution to dine out at least one a week. Enjoy all of our local restaurants. Singles, dates and old fogies might all benefit from a weekly meal in a new setting or directing appetites to old favorites. My motive? A hope that all our best places will have enough customers to keep them open and thriving for many years. Further afield, my favorite bakery has postponed closing, indefinitely. MATHES BAKERY at 55th Thomas (one block south of Baltimore) remains open Wednesday through Sunday. Karen (the third generation) serves tasty treats at tiny prices. Mouth watering pastries, homemade sticky buns, lavish pies and her unique and elegant custom ordered cakes make this real, not just retro bakery, worth a visit. Best! Liz You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] some furniture pieces needed for next play
If you already received this I apologize. I am sending again as I sent with wrong subject line. We are looking for some furniture pieces for our next show...we need a sideboard , small china cupboard or curio with drawers, a small table with or without chairs for inside, a small settee (couch or seat without a back) and a patio looking table and chairs (like wicker) it takes place in a summer home/beach house anything can be returned thank you so much gay carducci - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. Gay Carducci-Kuhn Education Director Curio Theatre Company 815 S. 48th St. Philadelphia,Pa. 19143 office 215-525-1350 cell 610-368-4450 www.curiotheatre.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Don't let your dream ride pass you by.Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos.
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
I wish somebody would be wry and amusing.:-( -Mariellen At 05:18 PM 9/18/2007, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: Mariellen Smith wrote: Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and successful list. I know you're trying to be wry and amusing here or whatever, and I appreciate that, but, if we think about it, isn't 'discussing' what's published -- whether in print or online -- pretty much what's always been done? normally? publicly? just because we may happen to be the ones actually creating the content, having the conversation, doesn't mean we can't also discuss creating content or talk about having conversations. also, quoting another listserv or talking about what's posted on another website isn't gossip or bad manners, any more than quoting a newspaper or a teevee show, nor does it take any special philosophy or etiquette. for example, when glenn writes about kyle's list, about list gangs and penn-branded lists, and how kyle 'pre-banned' glenn from taking part in kyle's list, I can point out (with urls) how melani lamond and ross bender were posting to kyle's list before kyle ever announced it here on uclist on july 28. so in addition to 'pre-banning' there was 'pre-enlisting'. here's how that went [and anyone is free to publicly comment on it]: http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/01.html Richard Cardona Fri Jul 27 *** Richard Cardona Director for Information Technology Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-9614 http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/02.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 Testing... http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/04.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 OK, let's see what happens. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/06.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 I'm in the Poconos, hoping to be sending the first email to Kyle's new listserv - but there may be no one on the list yet to receive it. Thanks, Kyle, and I look forward to a productive, friendly, helpful list. We may be able to DOUBLE the number of members the UC List has had, and multiply the number of people willing to actually speak up by a huge number, and really have a great communication system for our neighborhood. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/08.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 there are three of us on it now. there are only 300 people on the uc list. i don't think 600 would be difficult to get. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/09.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 Actually, 370 as of today. Impossible to tell how many of those subscriber addresses are still active. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/10.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 it's such a nearly non-existent slice of this neighborhood. 370 people. at least all the cranks are isolated. - - - - - - - the problem with that last remark (besides its rudeness) is that there is no such thing as being 'isolated' in the public square. uclist and kyle's list are both publicly accessible, and participation in both is subject to public scrutiny and public commentary. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
Mariellen Smith wrote: I wish /somebody/ would be wry and amusing.:-( A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre Museum. After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van. However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas. When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings. I had no Monet to buy Degas to make the Van Gogh. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
THANK YOU! At 03:05 PM 9/19/2007, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: Mariellen Smith wrote: I wish /somebody/ would be wry and amusing.:-( A thief in Paris planned to steal some paintings from the Louvre Museum. After careful planning, he got past security, stole the paintings, and made it safely to his van. However, he was captured only two blocks away when his van ran out of gas. When asked how he could mastermind such a crime and then make such an obvious error, he replied, Monsieur, that is the reason I stole the paintings. I had no Monet to buy Degas to make the Van Gogh. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Tony, Purple, Villanova - was - the defectors to UCNeighbors
Well.., there it is. On 9/18/07 5:18 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mariellen Smith wrote: Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and successful list. I know you're trying to be wry and amusing here or whatever, and I appreciate that, but, if we think about it, isn't 'discussing' what's published -- whether in print or online -- pretty much what's always been done? normally? publicly? just because we may happen to be the ones actually creating the content, having the conversation, doesn't mean we can't also discuss creating content or talk about having conversations. also, quoting another listserv or talking about what's posted on another website isn't gossip or bad manners, any more than quoting a newspaper or a teevee show, nor does it take any special philosophy or etiquette. for example, when glenn writes about kyle's list, about list gangs and penn-branded lists, and how kyle 'pre-banned' glenn from taking part in kyle's list, I can point out (with urls) how melani lamond and ross bender were posting to kyle's list before kyle ever announced it here on uclist on july 28. so in addition to 'pre-banning' there was 'pre-enlisting'. here's how that went [and anyone is free to publicly comment on it]: http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/01.html Richard Cardona Fri Jul 27 *** Richard Cardona Director for Information Technology Annenberg School for Communication University of Pennsylvania (215) 898-9614 http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/02.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 Testing... http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/04.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 OK, let's see what happens. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/05.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with forced moderation. the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/06.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 I'm in the Poconos, hoping to be sending the first email to Kyle's new listserv - but there may be no one on the list yet to receive it. Thanks, Kyle, and I look forward to a productive, friendly, helpful list. We may be able to DOUBLE the number of members the UC List has had, and multiply the number of people willing to actually speak up by a huge number, and really have a great communication system for our neighborhood. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/07.html Melani Lamond Fri Jul 27 kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/08.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 there are three of us on it now. there are only 300 people on the uc list. i don't think 600 would be difficult to get. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/09.html Ross Bender Fri Jul 27 Actually, 370 as of today. Impossible to tell how many of those subscriber addresses are still active. http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/10.html Kyle Cassidy Fri Jul 27 it's such a nearly non-existent slice of this neighborhood. 370 people. at least all the cranks are isolated. - - - - - - - the problem with that last remark (besides its rudeness) is that there is no such thing as being 'isolated' in the public square. uclist and kyle's list are both publicly accessible, and participation in both is subject to public scrutiny and public commentary. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN [aka laserbeam®] [aka ray] SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. It is very clear on this listserve who these people are. Ray has admitted being connected to this forger. -- Tony West Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, more believable -- Tony West __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit
Re: [UC] Cafe Pier One : 4505 Baltimore
Pam at Cafe Pier one arranged a very nice spread of sandwiches and salads for the 250+ people who came for Duane's birthday/memorial bash at Abbraccio at the end of June. The food was excellent and beautifully presented. Roger Harman You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' and expansion moves
It's anybody's guess! For starters, upscale does not contrast logically with mom-and-pop; many a Napa Valley winery is an upscale mom-and-pop operation. For another thing, I'm hard pressed to think of any on-campus operations that are mom-and-pop -- Penn's real-estate wing has long favored chains -- and not many that are downscale (unless you count their fast-food franchisees, etc.). Either that Penn real-estate wonk hadn't had his coffee before he was interviewed, or, more likely, the Penn kid who wrote the story had little grasp of either business or geography and was flinging around terms wildly, hoping they had a nice ring to them. -- Tony West Ray wrote: here's another: [thursday's dp]: http://tinyurl.com/2zydee [if anyone can figure out what they mean by mom-and-pop operations, I'd like to hear!] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' and expansion moves
It's possible he's referring to the food carts which would certainly qualify as Mom-and-Pop in many cases. Quoting Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's anybody's guess! For starters, upscale does not contrast logically with mom-and-pop; many a Napa Valley winery is an upscale mom-and-pop operation. For another thing, I'm hard pressed to think of any on-campus operations that are mom-and-pop -- Penn's real-estate wing has long favored chains -- and not many that are downscale (unless you count their fast-food franchisees, etc.). Either that Penn real-estate wonk hadn't had his coffee before he was interviewed, or, more likely, the Penn kid who wrote the story had little grasp of either business or geography and was flinging around terms wildly, hoping they had a nice ring to them. -- Tony West Ray wrote: here's another: [thursday's dp]: http://tinyurl.com/2zydee [if anyone can figure out what they mean by mom-and-pop operations, I'd like to hear!] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' and expansion moves
Most (all?) of the businesses on Sansom St. between 34th 36th are at least independent and would qualify, I think. Campus Copy Center and Modern Eye. The Last Word, The Natural Shoe Store, The Greek Lady, The Marvelous, Smokey Joe's, Video Library and several others in the 40th St. area, also. Unless he means places like Hoops. There aren't really any of those. Frankus Sleek. Edgy. Infinitely flexible. On Sep 19, 2007, at 09:31 PM, Anthony West wrote: It's anybody's guess! For starters, upscale does not contrast logically with mom-and-pop; many a Napa Valley winery is an upscale mom-and-pop operation. For another thing, I'm hard pressed to think of any on-campus operations that are mom-and-pop -- Penn's real-estate wing has long favored chains -- and not many that are downscale (unless you count their fast-food franchisees, etc.). Either that Penn real-estate wonk hadn't had his coffee before he was interviewed, or, more likely, the Penn kid who wrote the story had little grasp of either business or geography and was flinging around terms wildly, hoping they had a nice ring to them. -- Tony West Ray wrote: here's another: [thursday's dp]: http://tinyurl.com/2zydee [if anyone can figure out what they mean by mom-and-pop operations, I'd like to hear!] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' and expansion moves
Yeah, that's a very good thought, Frank. That could be the sort of thing a college kid would have in mind when he used terms like on campus. But most of those businesses were not, in fact, on campus when I worked their neighborhood small-business community in the '90s. They were privately-owned real estate on the south side, for the most part. What is their status today -- does anybody know? Safe to say, though, that no Penn real-estate wonk would commit the sin of calling privately-held real estate on campus, even if he had been doing lines of cocaine with Alan Klein in the men's room just minutes earlier. It's truly unimaginable as an official public statement by an institution the size of Penn. -- Tony West Most (all?) of the businesses on Sansom St. between 34th 36th are at least independent and would qualify, I think. Campus Copy Center and Modern Eye. The Last Word, The Natural Shoe Store, The Greek Lady, The Marvelous, Smokey Joe's, Video Library and several others in the 40th St. area, also. Unless he means places like Hoops. There aren't really any of those. Frankus You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] more on 'anchor institutions' to Mom Pop
I think of Mom Pop as a real estate term with business connotations. To me a classic example was the Fireside Restaurant that used to be on 43rd Street near Pine. The row of stores on the 4500 block of Baltimore provided other examples. The Davis Family lived above and behind their Drug Store. Norman and Mary Weister raised 5 kids above their appliance repair shop. Joe the Butcher lived above his place, until his wife made him move out to Overbrook. In a Mom Pop arrangement, the 'family' would live above or behind the business (store, restaurant, beauty parlor) and they would pull together to keep costs low. Mom could sub for Pop behind the counter. One could do the banking or pick up supplies while the other ran the register and kept the place clean. Kids if any would sweep, restock and do homework under a parents eye. This use is still a way for recent immigrants to create equity, buy a home and start the climb up the income ladder. And it is still a common property use in North and South Philly. On the 3400 block of Sansom, the White Dog qualified under my definition, as Judy Wicks lived above the Restaurant. I thought I read somewhere that she retired or sold it, to concentrate on good deeds and changing of minds and the world. Another great old term is In-Law apartment. These are now more often used for income, guests, live-in help, or seriously indulgent entertaining. Best! Liz On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:42:27 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's possible he's referring to the food carts which would certainly qualify as Mom-and-Pop in many cases. Quoting Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's anybody's guess! For starters, upscale does not contrast logically with mom-and-pop; many a Napa Valley winery is an upscale mom-and-pop operation. For another thing, I'm hard pressed to think of any on-campus operations that are mom-and-pop -- Penn's real-estate wing has long favored chains -- and not many that are downscale (unless you count their fast-food franchisees, etc.). Either that Penn real-estate wonk hadn't had his coffee before he was interviewed, or, more likely, the Penn kid who wrote the story had little grasp of either business or geography and was flinging around terms wildly, hoping they had a nice ring to them. -- Tony West Ray wrote: here's another: [thursday's dp]: http://tinyurl.com/2zydee [if anyone can figure out what they mean by mom-and-pop operations, I'd like to hear!] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
