Re: [UC] Palin as prez
Sarah Palin is to Hilary Clinton as Alvin Chipmunk is to Pavarotti. With 5 kids and an Alaskan home base, citizens of the USA could actually reverse the current trend of a President MIA. Oh, right, no one knows where Cheney is either. Guess we'll have to follow the money. Liz -- Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karen, I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important development. I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience. With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President is far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these additional scary details. It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like her. This was a frightening choice. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Click here to find the satellite television package that meets your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mzvzYE9dRGODUMe7S7frnmIjeWZnhUJGfssw4ZLXA9KycC1/
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RE: [UC] Palin as prez
I read another good line: Women voting for Sarah Palin is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:57:20 +To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [UC] Palin as prez Sarah Palin is to Hilary Clinton as Alvin Chipmunk is to Pavarotti. With 5 kids and an Alaskan home base, citizens of the USA could actually reverse the current trend of a President MIA. Oh, right, no one knows where Cheney is either. Guess we'll have to follow the money. Liz -- Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks Karen,I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important development.I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience. With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President is far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these additional scary details.It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like her.This was a frightening choice. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to thelist named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, seehttp://www.purple.com/list.html. Click here to find the satellite television package that meets your needs.
Re: [UC] Palin as prez
Since we're on Sarah Palin descriptives I have heard the news media compare Sarah Palin to Dan Quayle. To compare Sarah Palin to Dan Quayle is to do a real disservice to Dan Quayle! As moronic as Quayle was, he came to the job with more than 10 years' experience in the House and Senate. My preferred nickname for Palin is dingbat. sj Original message Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:57:20 GMT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Palin as prez To: univcity@list.purple.com Sarah Palin is to Hilary Clinton as Alvin Chipmunk is to Pavarotti. With 5 kids and an Alaskan home base, citizens of the USA could actually reverse the current trend of a President MIA. Oh, right, no one knows where Cheney is either. Guess we'll have to follow the money. Liz -- Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karen, I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important development. I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience. With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President is far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these additional scary details. It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like her. This was a frightening choice. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Click here to find the satellite television package that meets your needs. Susan Jacobson, PhD Assistant Professor Department of Journalism Temple University [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] RE: McCain's dangerous choice
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/ Ana, That is a good link. To me, troopergate is the very important issue to follow. It will be an indication of Palin's executive style and McCain's leadership in choosing her. Picking someone with the ideology that might appeal to certain voters is something to be expected- As Biden's foreign policy experience seems to compliment the Democrat ticket. (Don't get me wrong, I like Biden but believe US foreign policy direction since World War II is a tragedy.) But in addition to Palin's foreign policy hole, troopergate gets right to the questions of ethics and abuse of power. This trashy soap opera reminds me of the firing of federal prosecutors by the current. This is an important scandal to watch as the details unfold. Long live the polar bears, Glenn -Original Message- From: Ana Kostich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 30, 2008 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Listserv, UnivCity univcity@list.purple.com, Listserv, Penn Employees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [UC] RE: McCain's dangerous choice And, to complement, you just have to check what Alaskan politicians are saying: great link. http://mudflats.wordpress.com/ Also, the Wikipedia entry on her was heavily altered [embelished] 24 hours before the announcement so that the Wicki creator had to restrict further access to her entry [heard it on NPR yesterday]. Ana Ana From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: univcity@list.purple.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: McCain's dangerous choice Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:32:03 -0400 Please forward. Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:19:42 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: McCain's dangerous choice Dear MoveOn member, Yesterday was John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for inexperience, here's who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people. Huh? Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background: * She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage. She has no foreign policy experience.1 * Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2 * She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3 * Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4 * She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5 * She's solidly in line with John McCain's Big Oil first energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6 * How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.7 This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family. We also asked Alaska MoveOn members what the rest of us should know about their governor. The response was striking. Here's a sample: She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska. —Christine B., Denali Park, AK As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage, AK Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our
Re: [UC] Palin as prez
Yes. Thank you Karen for the information. However, I feel people should not underestimate the damage Gov. Pailn could do to the Democratic Presidential Ticket. She's a Social Conservative and Anti-Choice. Given Sen. McCain's steadfast opposition to Roe v. Wade during his long stint in the Senate, the Conservative Justices on the Supreme Court and Palin as running mate, we can pretty much kiss Roe v. Wade goodbye if he is elected. That is what Hillary supporters should consider before voting for this ticket. That is NOT what Hillary stands for at all. On 8/30/08 4:18 PM, Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karen, I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important development. I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience. With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President is far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these additional scary details. It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like her. This was a frightening choice. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Palin as prez
I think this selection may have had the opposite effect of what McCain intended. He has just made Hillary's job of persuading her supporters into Barack's camp infinitely easier. I was a disappointed and angry Hillary supporter--until Friday morning. Where can I get an Obama yard sign??? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:28:37 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Palin as prez To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; univcity@list.purple.com Yes. Thank you Karen for the information. However, I feel people should not underestimate the damage Gov. Pailn could do to the Democratic Presidential Ticket. She's a Social Conservative and Anti-Choice. Given Sen. McCain's steadfast opposition to Roe v. Wade during his long stint in the Senate, the Conservative Justices on the Supreme Court and Palin as running mate, we can pretty much kiss Roe v. Wade goodbye if he is elected. That is what Hillary supporters should consider before voting for this ticket. That is NOT what Hillary stands for at all. On 8/30/08 4:18 PM, Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Karen,I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important development.I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience. With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President is far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these additional scary details.It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like her.This was a frightening choice. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
RE: [UC] Palin as prez
Love it! Karen, I don't have a yard sign but I do have a window sign that I
would be more than happy to bring to you today! Another Hillary supporter that
I know asked me for a yard sign as well! McCain more of the same - incompetent
selections. Bush=McCain.
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I think this selection may have had the opposite effect of what McCain
intended. He has just made Hillary's job of persuading her supporters into
Barack's camp infinitely easier. I was a disappointed and angry Hillary
supporter--until Friday morning. Where can I get an Obama yard sign???
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:28:37 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Palin as prez
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; univcity@list.purple.com
Yes. Thank you Karen for the information.
However, I feel people should not underestimate the damage Gov. Pailn could
do to the Democratic Presidential Ticket.
She's a Social Conservative and Anti-Choice. Given Sen. McCain's steadfast
opposition to Roe v. Wade during his long stint in the Senate, the
Conservative Justices on the Supreme Court and Palin as running mate, we can
pretty much kiss Roe v. Wade goodbye if he is elected.
That is what Hillary supporters should consider before voting for this
ticket. That is NOT what Hillary stands for at all.
On 8/30/08 4:18 PM, Glenn moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Karen,
I'm glad you provided this info to the list. It's such a very important
development.
I was shocked when I heard Palin's basic background and lack of experience.
With McCain's health history and age the chance that she could be President
is
far too high for such an outlandish choice. I felt that way before these
additional scary details.
It is obviously a bizzare attempt to get Hilary supporters. To me, it seems
inconceivable that any women for Hilary would be swayed by a choice like
her.
This was a frightening choice.
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[UC] Radian
I have to say the retail facade of the Radian is very impressive. The space closest to 40th St. is crying out to be an Apple store. It already looks like one. Frank You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Palin as prez
I certainly have some questions about the wisdom of this choice as well as the viability of Governor Palin to be a viable Vice President (assuming a president McCain would follow recent precedent -- although not Constitutional requirements) let alone a successor-president. But aren't these comments rushing to judgement? We haven't heard from her yet in any situation calling for substance. And, may I remind one and all that we still know next to nothing about Barack Obama or what he means when he says things like cutting taxes on the middle class or even change, and while Joe Biden has been spun as having strong foreign policy credentials, little has been said to back that assertion up. At the moment, we have two candidates nobody knows, one who changes positions about as often as most people in this neighborhood change socks, and one who -- a week ago -- nobody would have been able to define areas of expertise and experience for. I think this is what's meant by a pig in a poke. Always at your service and ready for a dialog. Al Krigman (A Libertarian who certainly won't vote for Bob Barr) **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547)
Re: [UC] Palin as prez
Al, With all due respect, it isn't that we don't know about Barack, it is that you don't! Every major news vehicle has done a side-by-side comparison of Barack's and McCain's tax cut. Go to CNN.com for the graphics. Let me be clear - under the Obama tax cut - 95% of Americans will get a tax cut. Seniors who have less than 50k in income will pay no taxes. Families that make less than 250 will receive a tax cut and this tax cut will be larger than McCain's plan. So if you don't know about Barack's plans at this point, it is because you haven't researched his plans. Go to his website and check out the issues section. If you have done that and you still don't know about Barack's plans versus McCain's plan than I think there is something else at play. --- On Sun, 8/31/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] Palin as prez To: univcity@list.purple.com Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008, 3:00 PM I certainly have some questions about the wisdom of this choice as well as the viability of Governor Palin to be a viable Vice President (assuming a president McCain would follow recent precedent -- although not Constitutional requirements) let alone a successor-president. But aren't these comments rushing to judgement? We haven't heard from her yet in any situation calling for substance. And, may I remind one and all that we still know next to nothing about Barack Obama or what he means when he says things like cutting taxes on the middle class or even change, and while Joe Biden has been spun as having strong foreign policy credentials, little has been said to back that assertion up. At the moment, we have two candidates nobody knows, one who changes positions about as often as most people in this neighborhood change socks, and one who -- a week ago -- nobody would have been able to define areas of expertise and experience for. I think this is what's meant by a pig in a poke. Always at your service and ready for a dialog. Al Krigman (A Libertarian who certainly won't vote for Bob Barr) It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.
[UC] Palin firings while Mayor
I've had a chance to look at the original reports of Palin's current troopergate. It's very interesting to read the scandal unfold in July. All of the KTVA reports and Anchorage Daily News articles are organized at the bottom of this first link. I'm sure we'll hear more about this info in the second link. It appears that VP candidate Palin made some questionable firings as mayor too. I think these original reports warrant a close reading. If you wanted to give the benefit of the doubt in the current troopergate, the similar 1997 firings indicate a serious pattern. Such similarities in the two scandals point to a willingness to abuse power and almost childish arrogance. Let's see if these reports are verified. This has nothing to do with ideology or experience. http://www.realitywindow.com/archives/2008/08/learning-about-sarah-palin.html http://hatthief.blogspot.com/2008/08/vetting-sarah-palin-irl-stambaugh-walt.html You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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Al, I believe we ALL have questions about this choice; especially in the wake of the slightly bewildered expression on Sen. McCain¹s face when he introduced her on Friday. Perhaps we might be rushing to judgment. However, since this choice was such an anathema to McCain¹s campaign so far, one has to ask themselves ³How?² and ²Why?² this person. How low are the neo-cons willing to go to continue their policies and power? Do they have McCain SO much under their thumb they would foist this person off on him he barely knows, who represents pre-1970¹s legal constraints on women¹s choice? Would McCain really even be the President at all since he apparently had very little control over picking his running mate? Do the American public wish for more world record quarterly profits while more people¹s homes are foreclosed? Will gas at $6/gal be borne by us? That¹s not to mention torture, secret prison sites, spying on citizens or the fact the VERY experienced true power behind the current throne answered, ³So?², when told more than 4000 Americans were killed in Iraq. Granted, Obama may not be all things to all people; no one is. Still, I believe he does not support the abovementioned policies and their disastrous results for the dwindling American middle class. Perhaps you do not care for Obama and that¹s all right, but one has to admit these are serious concerns. What does the Presidency mean when the candidate is arm-twisted into choosing a running mate? Will this office go the way The Constitution seems to have been going? Is this the direction the country should take? Sorry, just my two cents. On 8/31/08 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I certainly have some questions about the wisdom of this choice as well as the viability of Governor Palin to be a viable Vice President (assuming a president McCain would follow recent precedent -- although not Constitutional requirements) let alone a successor-president. But aren't these comments rushing to judgement? We haven't heard from her yet in any situation calling for substance. And, may I remind one and all that we still know next to nothing about Barack Obama or what he means when he says things like cutting taxes on the middle class or even change, and while Joe Biden has been spun as having strong foreign policy credentials, little has been said to back that assertion up. At the moment, we have two candidates nobody knows, one who changes positions about as often as most people in this neighborhood change socks, and one who -- a week ago -- nobody would have been able to define areas of expertise and experience for. I think this is what's meant by a pig in a poke. Always at your service and ready for a dialog. Al Krigman (A Libertarian who certainly won't vote for Bob Barr) It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547 .
[UC] unbelievable Palin 1996!
While searching the Anchorage Daily News to research the firing of the Wasilla police chief I found this! This is an unbelievable series of events but their it is in the archives! Oct 1996, Palin asks for resignations of 5 top officials to test loyalty to her new administration. In January, she fires two of them, with a note on their desks, for no reason. Just as she fired the top state cop for no reason according to the initial report, she fired the top cop in her town of 5000. Just like the current troopergate, this led to legal action. It appears the Wasilla firings were because these officials supported the other guy in the election. A new mayor requests resignations to prove loyalty because these officials supported the other guy?Is her ridiculous denials of involvement in the new troopergate believable with this pathetic petty arrogant start to her political career These town officials were doing their jobs for years and I found no indication of any type of problem. I stumbled onto this and have not seen coverage of this episode. Feel free to forward this far and wide. Palin is a bully! http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=ASp_theme=asp_action=searchp_maxdocs=200p_text_search-0=new%20AND%20wasilla%20AND%20mayor%20AND%20askss_dispstring=new%20wasilla%20mayor%20asks%20AND%20date(1996)p_field_date-0=YMD_datep_params_date-0=date:B,Ep_text_date-0=1996xcal_numdocs=20p_perpage=10p_sort=_rank_:Dxcal_ranksort=4xcal_useweights=yes Glenn You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
