Re: [UC] The end of Philly Car Share as a non-profit.
Do you mean to say that for profit, commercial entities actually pay for Police and Fire services? I don't think so. They pay as much as non-profit organizations, which do not pay taxes not because they are tax exempt, but because they do not have profits, you see, non-profit... If you or me do not make enough money to pay taxes we get the same service. It has nothing to do with the status. Now if you talk about tax exempt religious organizations, that is really different, they do make a profit and they do not pay taxes, so they do get free services. Gerardo Razumney On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:33 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mcgillsociety.orgwrote: On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:23 PM, maru ca wrote: On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:52 AM, William H. Magill wrote: In any event, it is good to see that Private Enterprise has decided to support the shared vehicle model and be a tax paying, instead of tax consuming entity. Now this piques the curiosity. In what way was PCS a tax consuming entity? They get/got all of the benefits of city services (whichever they were) without paying for them … Police, Fire, Trash… Virtually all Non-Profits consume tax dollars because they depend upon City Services. Consequently the Tax Payers of the City get hit twice by them… Entities, like the University of Pennsylvania, who have their own Police and Trash services, relying on the city only for Fire services are a different issue. They don't consume tax-paid services to the same extent, but do exempt massive chunks of property from Real Estate Taxes. (That I know of, both Penn and Temple have sworn Police Departments, i.e. they have full arrest powers. I don't know the status of Drexel's force currently.) There are undoubtedly a few non-profits who do pay taxes, (and I realize that non-profit and tax-exempt are not the same thing, but the sets overlap a huge amount), but they are usually viewed by everyone but the Taxman as the same thing, and act as if they are exempt. … which is apparently how PhillyCarShare got into the predicament it wound up in. T.T.F.N. William H. Magill mag...@mcgillsociety.org mag...@me.com whmag...@gmail.com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] The end of Philly Car Share as a non-profit.
Gerardo, Having served as the treasurer of a non-profit 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization for over a decade, I have to disagree with two statements in your post. ...non-profit organizations, which do not pay taxes not because they are tax exempt, but because they do not have profits, you see, non-profit... Non-profit does not mean has no profits. It means cannot DISTRIBUTE profits to other entities (who would then be treated as receiving income from the non-profit). A non-profit organization is actually allowed to make as much profit as it can. (Obviously, at a bare minimum, it has to break even in order to survive.) What it cannot do is pass on those profits on to owners, shareholders, or similar entities. Instead, the profits are required to be retained for use by the organization in furtherance of the purposes stated in their articles of incorporation, charter, and/or by-laws. Any inappropriate use would render the organization's management liable for charges of malfeasance, misfeasance, and other nasty thangs. For instance, if the Philly Art Museum makes a profit, they're required to put those profits into acquiring and displaying more art, providing more art education services, maintaining the museum building, etc. ...tax exempt religious organizations, that is really different, they do make a profit and they do not pay taxes... Tax-exempt organizations -- be they religious, charitable, educational, fraternal, or any of the other varieties recognized by the IRS in section 501 of the Revenue Code -- are only exempted from SOME taxes and fees, not all of them. They are exempt from paying Federal income taxes. (Though they have to file forms w/the IRS just like you and me.) In some states and localities, but not all, they are also exempt from paying state/regional income taxes. Some states also exempt them from paying sales tax on their purchases. And many localities give them an exemption from real-estate taxes. Other than that, they are generally subject to the same taxes, fees, and license charges as a for-profit business. For instance, if they have employees, they still have to pay the employer's share of Social Security and Medicare taxes. If they have a cafeteria or gift shop, they have to collect sales tax and turn it over to the state. In that sense, contrary to Bill's claim, almost every tax-exempt organization is actually a ...tax paying, instead of tax consuming entity. They don't pay to the same extent as a for-profit company, but they DO pay. But the real issue here is this: If the nature of a non-profit business means that it is responsible for collecting a local tax or fee, and it fails to do so, it can be held legally responsible. It may be that management failed to do due diligence, didn't understand what they were doing, got bad legal/accounting advice, or just didn't care. Or, as in this case, a recent court decision rendered their previous approach null and void. If Philly CarShare had chosen play it safe from the start -- to collect the local car rental fee from its users, and turn that money over to the city -- they wouldn't be in their current fix. However, they might also have had far fewer rentals and gone under as a result. On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Gerardo Razumney wrote: Do you mean to say that for profit, commercial entities actually pay for Police and Fire services? I don't think so. They pay as much as non-profit organizations, which do not pay taxes not because they are tax exempt, but because they do not have profits, you see, non-profit... If you or me do not make enough money to pay taxes we get the same service. It has nothing to do with the status. Now if you talk about tax exempt religious organizations, that is really different, they do make a profit and they do not pay taxes, so they do get free services. Gerardo Razumney On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:33 PM, William H. Magill mag...@mcgillsociety.org wrote: On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:23 PM, maru ca wrote: On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:52 AM, William H. Magill wrote: In any event, it is good to see that Private Enterprise has decided to support the shared vehicle model and be a tax paying, instead of tax consuming entity. Now this piques the curiosity. In what way was PCS a tax consuming entity? They get/got all of the benefits of city services (whichever they were) without paying for them … Police, Fire, Trash… Virtually all Non-Profits consume tax dollars because they depend upon City Services. Consequently the Tax Payers of the City get hit twice by them… Entities, like the University of Pennsylvania, who have their own Police and Trash
[UC] Man on bicycle casing cars on 4900-5000 Catharine St
From Facebook this morning: A little while ago a man on a bike was casing out all the cars on the 4900 block of Catharine Street, tried to intimidate a woman, and then pedaled up to the 5000 block of Catharine. She advised everyone to remove any valuables from your car (I'd even remove any spare change). Crimes in this area this summer have been happening at all times of the day... in broad daylight. (Someone posted about this in the Cedar Park Neighbors page a little while ago.) - Naomi
[UC] [Friends of Clark Park]: Are You Ready For Some . . . Soccer?!
Friends of Clark Park has posted a new item, 'Are You Ready For Some . . . Soccer?!' While attention is focused on the beginning of pre-season (American) football this week, we'll distract you for a few minutes with thoughts of Clark Park Youth Soccer -- Fall season starts in just 6 weeks! Our Fall season will run from Saturday, September 24th, through November 19th. Updated information and forms are available on the Youth [...] You may view the latest post at http://www.friendsofclarkpark.org/?p=902 and feel free to comment as well. If you received this email because you were a member of our focp-announce list on Yahoo, or you provided your email address to the Friends of Clark Park, you can request removal by emailing f...@friendsofclarkpark.org. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Re: Fwd: Dangerous Pit Bull in Clark Park
On 8/9/11 8:25 PM, Linda wrote: :( Perhaps inappropriate language for the listservs... I'd also say that the majority of pits are good and gentle dogs. We know many wonderful pitties in the area. Obviously some dogs are 'trained' to be aggressive, or aren't trained at all. Blame the dog's owner. Like. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Re: [PFSNI] Re: Fwd: Dangerous Pit Bull in Clark Park
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Linda l...@verizon.net wrote: :( Perhaps inappropriate language for the listservs... I'd also say that the majority of pits are good and gentle dogs. Until they decide to kill or maim another dog/cat/child. Come on, WTF? Are you serious? -andy
[UC] update: lost tortie cat (with bad eye) is back home!
Just found out that kitty had been picked up by someone (nearby - she was not lost) and taken to ACCT (Animal Control). (Too bad they didn't notice the flyers posted around...) She's back home and is fine -- now with microchip (and hopefully a collar and tag). L You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] RE: [PFSNI] Fwd: Dangerous Pit Bull in Clark Park
Nachmias writes: I would contact University City District... and maybe they have more pull with the police. Darco, You and everyone else should be informed that Beau is often off leash too. You should also know that in the past, leaders of civic associations have regularly called for leash enforcement while their own dogs were off leash. Many people don't understand that civic association leaders and UCD cheerleaders have reason to believe that two extremely different enforcement policies will give them special privileges against draconian enforcement in this special district. And they might be temporarily correct, like we saw with the bogus trash tickets. (Frank was part of the UCD/FOCP Quality of Life Task Force with me many years ago. Quite frankly, Frank should never be walking Beau off leash, like Sam and I, but not because of a problem with Beau.) The problem: These zero tolerance leash laws will only destroy an important subculture of our community and will not make anyone any safer from any actual or manufactured problem! The well loved well trained dogs that accompany their humans to play without a leash NEVER kill and maim dogs and children BUT THEY WILL BE 99.9% OF THE VICTIMS OF LEASH LAWS, AND ALL HEALTHY DOGS WILL THEN DISAPPEAR FROM THIS SHOPPING DISTRICT. Our neighborhood cranks would be on the phone to the cops daily until they were all gone. (Let's not buy into the bull; if Cy killed, maimed, or just drew blood, the cops and legal system could have and would have been used!) The off leash dogs/humans deter aggressive dogs and are also known to be the best deterrent to human on human crime anywhere near Clark Park. Dogs enormously positive affects, upon the mental and physical health of the entire community, are only beginning to be partially understood! (e.g. The Clark Park dogs, like Sam, have often delivered much needed mental health treatment to children of the anointed, as well as love for the poor children.) And these benefits from well socialized dogs will be completely destroyed if healthy well trained dogs are the target of zero tolerance leash laws. Zero tolerance leash laws are nothing more than another quality of life weapon in the hands of aggressive humans! If you follow verified reports, the truly aggressive or uncontrollable dogs, who have attacked people or dogs, are walked with leashes. If you see Sam or any other dog walking unleashed at the heel of a human, you know that everyone is 100% safe and no middle class anointed bully will physically attack anyone while we are present. When the FOCP/UCD was calling for an end to dogs killing and maiming children, I asked for the reports and it turns out that these were ALL lies and or severe hyperbole. Nationally, the vast majority of dog bites are in the family home. People who turn dogs into attack animals can and should be held accountable by appropriate laws and the people of the dog subculture do self police against any nuisance dogs. Once again, it is the well loved dogs who protect the community from leashed dogs who might attack someone. (Unless a dog is deliberately mistreated, it won't be truly dangerous. The self policing that Linda described generally works with inexperienced dog owners who cannot properly train a dog or if the puppy was not properly socialized OFF leash around a wholesome dog culture like Clark Park.) We should be thanking the lovely dogs (Beau included) of this community rather than making their humans feel threatened! Quality of life or gentrification laws are generally crank laws These are made for angry middle class bullies who wish cheap methods to use enforcement against those outside of their gangs! Drug laws and Stop and Frisk were similarly designed around massive bullshit, to terrorize poor and minority neighborhoods not make anyone safer. Why has quality of life dropped so drastically during the era of quality of life laws? Glenn On 8/8/2011 7:02 AM, Lalevic, Darco wrote: In fact, other than fining the owner for having the dog off the leash, I don't see anything that can be done. If Beau doesn't have any wounds, then it wasn't an attack, it was the other dog trying to be dominant. If it was an attack, there would have been plenty of blood before you could have separated the dogs. *From:* penn-fsni-boun...@groups.sas.upenn.edu [penn-fsni-boun...@groups.sas.upenn.edu] on behalf of Gayle Joseph [vi...@vet.upenn.edu] *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:19 AM *To:* Vivianne T. Nachmias *Cc:* purple; pfsni *Subject:* Re: [PFSNI] Fwd: Dangerous Pit Bull in Clark Park I would contact University City District... and maybe they have more pull with the police. 215 243 0555 *Crime and Safety Tips: *http://www.universitycity.org/ucd_programs/public_safety/crime-information-and-safety-tips UCD's 42 Ambassadors
