Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
On a similar theme, one of my sisters moved back to the city (West Philly), from Lower Merion, after the 5th (or 6th) time her car was stolen from the parking lot of her upscale condo building. And another client moved back from Darby, after a 100 year storm flooded (to the point of failure) their Suburban home, while we in West Philly had to pump a few basements but were otherwise able to carry on with structures still intact. Best! Liz On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:09:46 -0400 John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In light of this recent thread, I offer the response of the Lower Merion township to a similar incident: http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070806_Warning_of_carjackin gs_in_Lower_Merion.html -- Regards, John Ellingsworth You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
In light of this recent thread, I offer the response of the Lower Merion township to a similar incident: http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20070806_Warning_of_carjackings_in_Lower_Merion.html -- Regards, John Ellingsworth You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
In a message dated 8/2/2007 8:27:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the other list: (Thanks, Noddy.) It's good to know the news. But cross-posting on the real discussion and civil citizens' lists doesn't make sense. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th LarchwoodWilma and Al, Something is very strange about this particular cross posting. The West report suggests that there are armed criminals at large in this neighborhood. Also that the police had done terrible police work allowing the criminals to return and pick up their car after an armed robbery. Has anyone else heard about this? David's crossing is one of the few that makes sense to me, and I wish to thank him. He is on the censored Penn list, but I don't recall him as being one of the mean-spirited bullies. And this is an example of news so important that even one of the bullies could easily justify this cross posting. Mr. West is a cross poster and has a very established reputation as barking cheese. Several hours after he posted the report of a crime at barking cheese, he posted on this uncensored list that investigation of Ray's employment cloaking it as a news story. The list may remember when I questioned Mr. West's reporting of voteforandytoy. He immediately veiled a threat to investigate me and obviously was digging into my properties and business. I felt this was an attempt to bully because I criticized his post. Here is the civil West post to me: I am a professional news source, just like you are a professional landlord. I talk directly to other news sources for a living. That doesn 't mean I'm always accurate, any more than it means you always obey the law as you acquire your million-dollar real-estate stock. You are free to investigate my livelihood, and I am free to investigate yours. I am busy right now with my main job, so I'd rather not investigate your main job at this time, as that would pay me nothing. Why is Mr. West continuing to attempt to torment his target on this list and now investigate his employment while he does not post the same very serious report of crime here? The West cross posting is the outrageous cross posting I expect from the bullies. Why was the crime report not important for him to post instead? Glenn - Original Message - From: Wilma de Soto To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UnivCity listserv Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood I still appreciate the heads up from Tony, although I can see your point. Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don't know. -Wilma On 8/3/07 7:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/2/2007 8:27:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the other list: (Thanks, Noddy.) It's good to know the news. But cross-posting on the real discussion and civil citizens' lists doesn't make sense. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/931 - Release Date: 8/1/2007 4:53 PM
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
David, I went to the 18th distrrict. Apparently, the report of a car jacking was false. I will again confirm and report back to the uncensored list. I will not again forward information for you to share with the civil censored Penn list. For your own sake, I suggest that you get away from them. Please inform them that from current reports, the earlier report of armed black men committing car jackings is false. If some young black kid runs in fear from the police because frightened neighbors respond with increased fear, I would feel terrible if I didn't make the best effort to inform even barking cheese. I'm planning to give a copy of your forward to the police. It identifies both lists as well as Mr. West. I will be certain that they understand that you were simply forwarding this to an uncensored list of some 300+ people in good faith. You are unfortunately a witness to all of this. Thanks for sharing this with your neighbors. Glenn Moyer - Original Message - From: David Toccafondi To: UCList Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood From the other list: (Thanks, Noddy.) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:34:33 -0400 From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ucneighbors] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A woman was carjacked at 44th Larchwood around 10:30pm last night. She was parking her late-model Nissan right at the corner, on Larchwood. Another vehicle, with two slim Black males in it, was also parked at the corner, on 44th St. As the woman was unloading her packages, accompanied by her young son, the two men left their car and approached her. One displayed a gun and told her to give her the keys to her car. They allowed her to keep her money and belongings. Both drove away in her car, leaving their stake-out vehicle parked on the corner. For a glum followup: when the police arrived, the woman pointed out the stakeout vehicle, which was still parked at the corner. The police, however, wrote down the license number of the vehicle in front of it, which belonged to a neighbor. That's the vehicle the police towtruck came and removed! By the time the police returned the neighbor's car, the robbers (it appears) had returned, picked up their stakeout vehicle and driven it away. -- Tony West -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/931 - Release Date: 8/1/2007 4:53 PM
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
Al,My cajones applaud you!! Joe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2007 8:17:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don’t know. What it really does is expose the wrong-headedness of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone is willing to put up with the in-your-face (a Philadelphia tradition that ain't gonna go away -- as Rick Oliveri is telling Tony Luke) nature of this list while playing patty-cake with the civil citizens there, what's the sense of it? Unless a few of the anointed actually think they can create a discussion that's really all about themselves and fool some also-ran groupies into thinking it's truly representative of the community. Always at your service ready for a dialog (or rumble, as the case may be), Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
I still appreciate the heads up from Tony, although I can see your point. Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don¹t know. -Wilma On 8/3/07 7:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/2/2007 8:27:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From the other list: (Thanks, Noddy.) It's good to know the news. But cross-posting on the real discussion and civil citizens' lists doesn't make sense. Always at your service ready for a dialog, Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 .
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
In a message dated 8/3/2007 8:17:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don’t know. What it really does is expose the wrong-headedness of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) If anyone is willing to put up with the in-your-face (a Philadelphia tradition that ain't gonna go away -- as Rick Oliveri is telling Tony Luke) nature of this list while playing patty-cake with the civil citizens there, what's the sense of it? Unless a few of the anointed actually think they can create a discussion that's really all about themselves and fool some also-ran groupies into thinking it's truly representative of the community. Always at your service ready for a dialog (or rumble, as the case may be), Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
Excuse me, Joe. I hope you meant 'mis cojones' (maybe you didn't) 'se lo de mi apoyo'. O si nó, discúlpame. On 8/3/07 12:23 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al,My cajones applaud you!! Joe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2007 8:17:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don¹t know. What it really does is expose the wrong-headedness of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone is willing to put up with the in-your-face (a Philadelphia tradition that ain't gonna go away -- as Rick Oliveri is telling Tony Luke) nature of this list while playing patty-cake with the civil citizens there, what's the sense of it? Unless a few of the anointed actually think they can create a discussion that's really all about themselves and fool some also-ran groupies into thinking it's truly representative of the community. Always at your service ready for a dialog (or rumble, as the case may be), Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
Warning this is a civil poster from barking cheese! Warning this is a civil poster! Did this civil poster just suggest that Al is a bully on our uncensored open list because of Al's support for our uncensored open neighborhood list? I'm a bit offended by his sexist boys will be boys. I know I'm nothing like and never have been like that boy. Go back to barfing civil cheese, Joe. - Original Message - From: Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wilma de Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood Wilma, My spanish is very poor, but I did mean for it to be ironic. Al's suggestion that this is the rock 'em sock 'em list of community discourse, where we take off the kid gloves and slug it out over the issues is ridiculous. Puh-leeze I've heard this enough from O'Reilly, Limbaugh and their lot who dispense with civility in order to revert back to school yard bullying. But I guess boys will be boys. Joe Clarke Wilma de Soto wrote: Excuse me, Joe. I hope you meant 'mis cojones' (maybe you didn't) 'se lo de mi apoyo'. O si nó, discúlpame. On 8/3/07 12:23 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al,My cajones applaud you!! Joe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2007 8:17:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don¹t know. What it really does is expose the wrong-headedness of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone is willing to put up with the in-your-face (a Philadelphia tradition that ain't gonna go away -- as Rick Oliveri is telling Tony Luke) nature of this list while playing patty-cake with the civil citizens there, what's the sense of it? Unless a few of the anointed actually think they can create a discussion that's really all about themselves and fool some also-ran groupies into thinking it's truly representative of the community. Always at your service ready for a dialog (or rumble, as the case may be), Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.2/933 - Release Date: 8/2/2007 2:22 PM You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
In a message dated 8/3/2007 4:42:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I did mean for it to be ironic. Al's suggestion that this is the rock 'em sock 'em list of community discourse, where we take off the kid gloves and slug it out over the issues is ridiculous. Gee. I took it as a compliment. (And still do.) But, since I hear by the grapevine that you're also posting on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) , what you now indicate was an insult does raise an interesting question. Are you staying on this list so you can be crude and insulting while you keep your holier-than-thou magnolias-wouldn't-melt-in-your-mouth persona exclusively for the civil citizens there? Enquiring minds want to know. Al Krigman ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
Dear Joe, I meant it to be ironic and was jesting with you. Even MY grammar was not correct in this exchange, but I wished you to understand it. Still, your post was funny ol' pinochle partner. On 8/3/07 4:40 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wilma, My spanish is very poor, but I did mean for it to be ironic. Al's suggestion that this is the rock 'em sock 'em list of community discourse, where we take off the kid gloves and slug it out over the issues is ridiculous. Puh-leeze I've heard this enough from O'Reilly, Limbaugh and their lot who dispense with civility in order to revert back to school yard bullying. But I guess boys will be boys. Joe Clarke Wilma de Soto wrote: Excuse me, Joe. I hope you meant 'mis cojones' (maybe you didn't) 'se lo de mi apoyo'. O si nó, discúlpame. On 8/3/07 12:23 PM, Joe Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al,My cajones applaud you!! Joe C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2007 8:17:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps something like this supercedes list protocol. I don¹t know. What it really does is expose the wrong-headedness of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone is willing to put up with the in-your-face (a Philadelphia tradition that ain't gonna go away -- as Rick Oliveri is telling Tony Luke) nature of this list while playing patty-cake with the civil citizens there, what's the sense of it? Unless a few of the anointed actually think they can create a discussion that's really all about themselves and fool some also-ran groupies into thinking it's truly representative of the community. Always at your service ready for a dialog (or rumble, as the case may be), Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident, housing provider, curmudgeon, and all-around crank, Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood
From the other list: (Thanks, Noddy.) Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:34:33 -0400 From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ucneighbors] Carjacking at 44th Larchwood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A woman was carjacked at 44th Larchwood around 10:30pm last night. She was parking her late-model Nissan right at the corner, on Larchwood. Another vehicle, with two slim Black males in it, was also parked at the corner, on 44th St. As the woman was unloading her packages, accompanied by her young son, the two men left their car and approached her. One displayed a gun and told her to give her the keys to her car. They allowed her to keep her money and belongings. Both drove away in her car, leaving their stake-out vehicle parked on the corner. For a glum followup: when the police arrived, the woman pointed out the stakeout vehicle, which was still parked at the corner. The police, however, wrote down the license number of the vehicle in front of it, which belonged to a neighbor. That's the vehicle the police towtruck came and removed! By the time the police returned the neighbor's car, the robbers (it appears) had returned, picked up their stakeout vehicle and driven it away. -- Tony West
