[UC] Gold Standard vandalized!
I just passed and someone had thrown paint at their beautiful new sign. Sad. Frank You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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I was there this morning, it was specific vandalization, it said fuck gentrification or words to that effect. I guess the squatters are feeling a bit of pressure these days, like rats on a sinking ship. Really sad, I guess they don't keep up on area history to know that GS has been around a lot longer than most of them.. Andrew Diller On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Frank fcarr...@pobox.com wrote: I just passed and someone had thrown paint at their beautiful new sign. Sad. Frank You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Frank _fcarr...@pobox.com_ (mailto:fcarr...@pobox.com) wrote: I just passed and someone had thrown paint at their beautiful new sign. Sad. In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:41:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dill...@dillernet.com writes: I was there this morning, it was specific vandalization, it said fuck gentrification or words to that effect. I guess the squatters are feeling a bit of pressure these days, like rats on a sinking ship. Really sad, I guess they don't keep up on area history to know that GS has been around a lot longer than most of them.. Don't get me wrong, here. I strongly disapprove of vandalism and other acts of destruction as a form of protest. And I'm certainly sorry that Roger and the others who put a lot of sweat and money into setting up their new cafe now have to spend more to fix up the sign. Recognize, though, that a lot of people who make this neighborhood their home feel threatened by gentrification because it means things like displacement, rises in the cost of living, loss of the conveniences they find important, and disdain by people who think they're better than everyone else. Some may, in fact, be squatters. I'd venture to guess, however, that many of those who find gentrification threatening are legitimate owners or renters worried about making ends meet and maintaining whatever quality of life they happen to have. To liken them to rats on a sinking ship reflects the anointed (you didn't think I dropped this adjective from my thesaurus, did you?) attitude that justifies and reinforces their fears. You read it here, first, on the ever-popular Popu-List Al Krigman **Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd)
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krf...@aol.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Frank fcarr...@pobox.com mailto:fcarr...@pobox.com wrote: I just passed and someone had thrown paint at their beautiful new sign. Sad. In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:41:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dill...@dillernet.com writes: I was there this morning, it was specific vandalization, it said fuck gentrification or words to that effect. I guess the squatters are feeling a bit of pressure these days, like rats on a sinking ship. Really sad, I guess they don't keep up on area history to know that GS has been around a lot longer than most of them.. Don't get me wrong, here. I strongly disapprove of vandalism and other acts of destruction as a form of protest. And I'm certainly sorry that Roger and the others who put a lot of sweat and money into setting up their new cafe now have to spend more to fix up the sign. Recognize, though, that a lot of people who make this neighborhood their home feel threatened by gentrification because it means things like displacement, rises in the cost of living, loss of the conveniences they find important, and disdain by people who think they're better than everyone else. Some may, in fact, be squatters. I'd venture to guess, however, that many of those who find gentrification threatening are legitimate owners or renters worried about making ends meet and maintaining whatever quality of life they happen to have. To liken them to rats on a sinking ship reflects the anointed (you didn't think I dropped this adjective from my thesaurus, did you?) attitude that justifies and reinforces their fears. What bothers me is that the rats on a sinking ship bit just _doesn't make sense_. Don't they teach people how to use analogies, similes and metaphors any more?
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Of course it makes sense, it works great as an analogy. Here, I'll hold your hand thru this one since you are having issues: Rats fleeing a sinking ship is similar to squatters fleeing a neighborhood without abandoned housing. I'm only about the squatters. If any homeowners are feeling threatened by gentrification, well, ok. I hope they are not defacing someones private property. And I was anointed once, by a priest. -andy On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Brian Siano briansi...@gmail.com wrote: To liken them to rats on a sinking ship reflects the anointed (you didn't think I dropped this adjective from my thesaurus, did you?) attitude that justifies and reinforces their fears. What bothers me is that the rats on a sinking ship bit just _doesn't make sense_. Don't they teach people how to use analogies, similes and metaphors any more?
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Andrew Diller wrote: Of course it makes sense, it works great as an analogy. Here, I'll hold your hand thru this one since you are having issues: Rats fleeing a sinking ship is similar to squatters fleeing a neighborhood without abandoned housing. So a neighborhood without abandoned housing is a _failing_ neighborhood? Last I checked, we were doing pretty good. (This is where the simile breaks down.) You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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Most of the long-term squatters I've known are currently home-owners. As for the sinking ship; we're all on it, together... --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Brian Siano briansi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Brian Siano briansi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [UC] Gold Standard vandalized! To: Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:45 PM Andrew Diller wrote: Of course it makes sense, it works great as an analogy. Here, I'll hold your hand thru this one since you are having issues: Rats fleeing a sinking ship is similar to squatters fleeing a neighborhood without abandoned housing. So a neighborhood without abandoned housing is a _failing_ neighborhood? Last I checked, we were doing pretty good. (This is where the simile breaks down.) You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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These observations are correct. And I have no more quarrel with squatter neighbors than I do with paying tenants or homeowners. However, whoever committed this nasty act, did so implicitly ignoring that Roger Vincent equally make this neighborhood their home. Any reader who thinks Roger Vincent are gentrifiers, and therefore evil, subscribes to a stupid and unjust class theory of neighbors -- that if you can fluff up a fake personal identity with lower classes, you actually are the proper ruler of the community and should be entitled to evict other people with upper-class affiliations -- or at least lord it over them and make them feel guilty for being alive and living here. Roger Vincent have been here for 30 years. How long has the silly punk who persecuted them lived around here? I'm dying to know, probably never will. But I deeply doubt he was a long-term blue-collar resident threatened by displacement (which of course was instigated to the last dollar by Roger Vincent!). Likelier he was an ill-informed, aggressive kid with an undigested college education, who moved into Roger Vincent's neighborhood around 18 months ago. -- Tony West In a message dated 6/3/2009 1:41:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dill...@dillernet.com writes: I was there this morning, it was specific vandalization, it said fuck gentrification or words to that effect. I guess the squatters are feeling a bit of pressure these days, like rats on a sinking ship. Really sad, I guess they don't keep up on area history to know that GS has been around a lot longer than most of them.. Recognize, though, that a lot of people who make this neighborhood their home feel threatened by gentrification because it means things like displacement, rises in the cost of living, loss of the conveniences they find important, and disdain by people who think they're better than everyone else. Some may, in fact, be squatters. I'd venture to guess, however, that many of those who find gentrification threatening are legitimate owners or renters worried about making ends meet and maintaining whatever quality of life they happen to have. Al Krigman You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] Gold Standard Vandalized
That's really awful what happened there. Roger and Vincent did not deserve that. It's odd because they were in a tweet I received today from Zagat Buzz: http://www.zagat.com/Blog/EntryList.aspx?SNP=NPHSCID=38CATID=1009zagatbuz zid=june09week1 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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Definitely not. I was saddened to see it this morning. Sorry guys. Kimm On 6/3/09 7:04 PM, Wilma de Soto wil.p...@verizon.net wrote: That's really awful what happened there. Roger and Vincent did not deserve that. It's odd because they were in a tweet I received today from Zagat Buzz: http://www.zagat.com/Blog/EntryList.aspx?SNP=NPHSCID=38CATID=1009zagatbuz zid=june09week1 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
