Re: [UC] Hotel at 40th and Pine

2009-11-19 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

mcget...@aol.com wrote:
The proposal to erect a hotel at 40th and Pine is now officially dead.  
Congratulations to all of our neighbors who put so much effort into 
fighting this misguided project - it is no small achievement to defeat a 
large institution and deep-pocketed investors. If Spruce Hill manages to 
keep its historic character and its livability for current and future 
generations, it will be thanks to committed people like them.   So much  
time and money could have been spared if the developers had only used 
common sense and initially chosen a more suitable location, like the 
current site on Walnut.  Perhaps they and others will learn from this 
experience. 

Does anyone have any information about the new plans for 40th and Pine, 
other than the request to change the zoning from two to three 
residences?  And what's happening to the 4224-26 Baltimore Avenue site?  
How long will we have to look at an empty lot surrounded by chain link 
fence?




while it may seem that preventing the 11-story hotel at 40th 
and pine is a victory, the fact that penn's developer wants 
to put it at 41xx walnut -- same height even tho there's no 
historic building this time forcing him to build it that 
tall -- shows that we haven't won a thing. it's still penn 
expanding the campus into the neighborhood -- in this case, 
a building for university use, not community use, being 
built in the neighborhood, not on campus -- and it's still 
penn using private developers to do what penn wants -- in 
this case, tom lussenhop and david adelman building an 
extended-stay hotel for penn.


like karen allen and other neighbors pointed out earlier, 
this sets precedents for penn and developers in our 
neighborhood, including the property at 4224-26 Baltimore 
Avenue.


and while the dp calls it 'neighoborhood development' it's 
really 'campus expansion.'


penn promised in 2004 it would never extend the campus west 
or north. here is judy rodin making the promise:


http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v50/n27/rodin.html

 I want to stress the point about our integrated approach.
 Many urban colleges and universities had taken action on
 one front or another. None had attempted to commit to
 intervening holistically on all fronts at once.

 Here is what we promised we wouldn't do.

 First, we would never again expand our campus to the west
 or to the north into residential neighborhoods. We would
 only expand to our east, which was made up entirely of
 abandoned buildings and commercial real estate


now we see how penn is breaking that promise, through 
proxies like lussenhop and adelman.






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Re: [UC] Hotel at 40th and Pine

2009-11-11 Thread Anthony West
Probably until it falls down, Mary. Historic designation of the building 
means it is too costly to develop as a low-rise property (thus the 
high-rise in the first place). The only way, according to PHC precedent, 
that it can ever be delisted, is for it to collapse (or be declared a 
safety hazard and be demolished).


The pace of decay should pick up once the roof goes, which may not be 
too many years. Still, it may take five or ten years.


The impact on the property values of the neighbors probably won't be 
beneficial over that time, I suspect. But there's nothing else that can 
be done now. Hopefully it will fall apart sooner rather than later.


-- Tony West


The proposal to erect a hotel at 40th and Pine is now officially 
dead.  Congratulations to all of our neighbors who put so much effort 
into fighting this misguided project - it is no small achievement to 
defeat a large institution and deep-pocketed investors. If Spruce Hill 
manages to keep its historic character and its livability for current 
and future generations, it will be thanks to committed people like 
them.   So much  time and money could have been spared if the 
developers had only used common sense and initially chosen a more 
suitable location, like the current site on Walnut.  Perhaps they and 
others will learn from this experience. 

Does anyone have any information about the new plans for 40th and 
Pine, other than the request to change the zoning from two to three 
residences?  And what's happening to the 4224-26 Baltimore Avenue 
site?  How long will we have to look at an empty lot surrounded by 
chain link fence?


Mary




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