[UC] More robberies and assaults in University City

2007-09-05 Thread nrvs
(For the readers of the ucneighbors list: I am replying to a post made by 
Liz Campion on the univcity list.  However, I feel the points I want to 
make are appropriate for both lists, so I am directing my response to both 
audiences.)


Hello Liz:


regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory.


Why is discussing the incidence of crime in University City 
inflammatory?  Inflammatory to whom?



it is not an experience I would define as normal or regular.


Allow me to quote from just one article from today's Daily Pennsylvanian:

On Aug. 29 at about 8:45 a.m. a female [...] reported that an unknown 
suspect approached her on the 3800 block of Woodland Walk, pushed her, 
took her wallet and fled southbound on 38th Street.


On Aug. 28 at about 5:30 p.m., a male [...] was on the 4200 block of 
Spruce Street when he was assaulted by a male offender who tried to remove 
some of his belongings.


On Aug. 28 at about 8:30 a.m., a female [...] reported that an unknown 
suspect grabbed her bag near the intersection of 41st and Pine streets and 
fled westbound on Pine Street in a vehicle.


These robberies and assaults aren't happening in the dead of night, and 
suburbanite Penn undergrads are not exclusive targets.  These incidents 
victimize ordinary people who live or work in the neighborhood, as they 
walk to and from their jobs or public transportation.



Welcome back to a new school year in University City.
The neighborhood will be at its most chaotic (and most vulnerable) until
the neighbors adjust to its changing population and people have a sense


The incidence of crime in University City is not necessarily tied to the 
Unviersity's academic schedule.  These outbreaks of street crime happen 
year-round.  What about the rash of violent assaults perpetrated by 
children on adults walking on Locust St. in July?  Was that a transitional 
period as well?


It's Penn's summer break! THAT'S why teenagers are punching non-students 
in the head at 45th and Locust and robbing them of their belongings!



of who belongs where, how to cross the street at a busy intersection, and
how to honor bike lanes.


I don't understand how crossing the street or bike lanes are relevant to 
this discussion.


Mark

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Re: [UC] More robberies and assaults in University City

2007-09-05 Thread Elizabeth F Campion

Hi Mark,

You wrote
the fact remains that residents of our neighborhood are accosted by men
with guns on a very regular basis.

I wrote:
regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory. ...
Not one of us in my immediate family has ever been robbed at gun
point.
Collectively, we have over 120 gun-crime free years.

Not one of the new crimes you mentioned has any mention of gun
involvement.
It is not even clear if all of the suspects are men.
They are notices, not indictments of any gender or class of human or
neighborhood.
And most interesting to me, all three occurred along the Campus edge and
inside the Triply (UCD Security, Penn and City Police) protected Campus
Zone, and not west of 46th Street, where I choose to live.

I know many more people who have been injured in bike or auto accidents
than by criminals.
And, the injuries in the accidents have more severe than those suffered
through the loss of a wallet or bag.

I read your post as an attempt at thoughtful warning that could back fire
into encouraging flight from or prophylaxis against the unlikely.
I wanted to down play any fear of men or any exaggeration of crime by
the use of the word regular.
And I segued into an extension of your thoughtfulness by including the
more likely hazards caused by an influx of drivers who might be
lost,
used to different signage,
distracted.

Now that I have clarified my context, perhaps you will agree that my
contribution was at least as 
relevant to this discussion about gun point crime,  as your suspect
grabbed her bag.

I think we both wish for the safety and well being of our neighbors and
neighborhood.

Best!
Liz



On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 (For the readers of the ucneighbors list: I am replying to a post 
 made by 
 Liz Campion on the univcity list.  However, I feel the points I want 
 to 
 make are appropriate for both lists, so I am directing my response 
 to both 
 audiences.)
 
 Hello Liz:
 
  regular basis is hard to define and inflammatory.
 
 Why is discussing the incidence of crime in University City 
 inflammatory?  Inflammatory to whom?
 
  it is not an experience I would define as normal or regular.
 
 Allow me to quote from just one article from today's Daily 
 Pennsylvanian:
 
 On Aug. 29 at about 8:45 a.m. a female [...] reported that an 
 unknown 
 suspect approached her on the 3800 block of Woodland Walk, pushed 
 her, 
 took her wallet and fled southbound on 38th Street.
 
 On Aug. 28 at about 5:30 p.m., a male [...] was on the 4200 block 
 of 
 Spruce Street when he was assaulted by a male offender who tried to 
 remove 
 some of his belongings.
 
 On Aug. 28 at about 8:30 a.m., a female [...] reported that an 
 unknown 
 suspect grabbed her bag near the intersection of 41st and Pine 
 streets and 
 fled westbound on Pine Street in a vehicle.
 
 These robberies and assaults aren't happening in the dead of night, 
 and 
 suburbanite Penn undergrads are not exclusive targets.  These 
 incidents 
 victimize ordinary people who live or work in the neighborhood, as 
 they 
 walk to and from their jobs or public transportation.
 
  Welcome back to a new school year in University City.
  The neighborhood will be at its most chaotic (and most vulnerable) 
 until
  the neighbors adjust to its changing population and people have a 
 sense
 
 The incidence of crime in University City is not necessarily tied to 
 the 
 Unviersity's academic schedule.  These outbreaks of street crime 
 happen 
 year-round.  What about the rash of violent assaults perpetrated by 
 children on adults walking on Locust St. in July?  Was that a 
 transitional 
 period as well?
 
 It's Penn's summer break! THAT'S why teenagers are punching 
 non-students 
 in the head at 45th and Locust and robbing them of their 
 belongings!
 
  of who belongs where, how to cross the street at a busy 
 intersection, and
  how to honor bike lanes.
 
 I don't understand how crossing the street or bike lanes are 
 relevant to 
 this discussion.
 
 Mark