[UC] Purpose of this list?
Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
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It's a platform for some, informational for others. In that way it reflects the neighborhood and its residents. This area has traditionally been a little crunchy, so some political observations are to be expected, I think. As on any mailing list, users eventually learn who they enjoy reading and who to ignore. Frank On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:01 AM, georgia...@aol.com wrote: Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
RE: [UC] Purpose of this list?
Whatever purpose this listserv originally had, it has transitioned into being University City's version of Hyde Park Speaker's Corner, where anyone can climb atop a soapbox and speak his or her mind; a neighborhood sounding board, for good or for ill. I admit that this listserv can be tough sometimes, but that reflects the different personalities who live in the neighborhood, and the various issues that have arisen. Since I became a member in 2004, this list has communicated about national topics such as: terrorism, the war in Iraq/Afganistan, Bush, Obama, the 2004 and 2008 elections; local issues like: crime alerts, lost pets, job opportunities, public schools, zoning, property taxes, local history; contentious issues like community association politics, the role of the University of Penn in this community, and its efforts to advance often unpopular taxation and development issues; and cultural issues like theaters, new restaurants, etc. And yes, it also communicates the political opinions of community members. I have a number of sources of information that I read or watch every day for national, political and regional news. For neighborhood news, I read this and other listservs as regularly as I watch MSNBC and Channel 10, or read Newsweek, the Daily News or Philadelphia Weekly. From: georgia...@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:01:45 -0500 Subject: [UC] Purpose of this list? To: univcity@list.purple.com Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
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Hi Georgia! Nice to meet you :) Um, this listserve is many things to many people. As Karen eloquently put it, it can be a soapbox, it can be silly, it can be frustrating, it can denigrate into personal attacks - yeah, it's happened more than once. But it also does serve a purpose in people living in this area getting to know things that are going on. If there's a rash of robberies, or potential scam artists (the security alarm thing where people were going door to door)), car break-ins, car and property damage, lost and found pets, general neighborhood announcements, all kinds of things. So just hang in there! You'll learn who you want to read and who you don't; what you want to read and what you don't and just use the Delete button as needed. Otherwise, hope you find the list helpful, informative and at least sometimes fun. Wendy On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com wrote: Whatever purpose this listserv originally had, it has transitioned into being University City's version of Hyde Park Speaker's Corner, where anyone can climb atop a soapbox and speak his or her mind; a neighborhood sounding board, for good or for ill. I admit that this listserv can be tough sometimes, but that reflects the different personalities who live in the neighborhood, and the various issues that have arisen. Since I became a member in 2004, this list has communicated about national topics such as: terrorism, the war in Iraq/Afganistan, Bush, Obama, the 2004 and 2008 elections; local issues like: crime alerts, lost pets, job opportunities, public schools, zoning, property taxes, local history; contentious issues like community association politics, the role of the University of Penn in this community, and its efforts to advance often unpopular taxation and development issues; and cultural issues like theaters, new restaurants, etc. And yes, it also communicates the political opinions of community members. I have a number of sources of information that I read or watch every day for national, political and regional news. For neighborhood news, I read this and other listservs as regularly as I watch MSNBC and Channel 10, or read Newsweek, the Daily News or Philadelphia Weekly. -- From: georgia...@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:01:45 -0500 Subject: [UC] Purpose of this list? To: univcity@list.purple.com Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
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Dear Georgia, Welcome to the University City Listserv, which came from the Spruce Hill Listserv. We accept anyone and everyone who is a member of this community and listen to and tolerate all opinions which is the hallmark of a diverse, educated urban community. Diverse opinions, neighborhood announcements, community issues and all types of political discourse with regard to the creation of our portion of West Philadelphia, now known as University City, in addition to everything else Karen stated so eloquently. All opinions, announcements, discussions and news are welcome here. One might read discussions that might rankle one¹s version of this community or even be completely diametrically opposed to one¹s vision of this community. No matter. We discuss anything and everything germane to this community past, present and future. We are one of the few communities in this city who has done this and still continues to do so and we are proud of this. Regards, Wilma de Soto On 12/22/09 12:21 PM, Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com wrote: Whatever purpose this listserv originally had, it has transitioned into being University City's version of Hyde Park Speaker's Corner, where anyone can climb atop a soapbox and speak his or her mind; a neighborhood sounding board, for good or for ill. I admit that this listserv can be tough sometimes, but that reflects the different personalities who live in the neighborhood, and the various issues that have arisen. Since I became a member in 2004, this list has communicated about national topics such as: terrorism, the war in Iraq/Afganistan, Bush, Obama, the 2004 and 2008 elections; local issues like: crime alerts, lost pets, job opportunities, public schools, zoning, property taxes, local history; contentious issues like community association politics, the role of the University of Penn in this community, and its efforts to advance often unpopular taxation and development issues; and cultural issues like theaters, new restaurants, etc. And yes, it also communicates the political opinions of community members. I have a number of sources of information that I read or watch every day for national, political and regional news. For neighborhood news, I read this and other listservs as regularly as I watch MSNBC and Channel 10, or read Newsweek, the Daily News or Philadelphia Weekly. From: georgia...@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:01:45 -0500 Subject: [UC] Purpose of this list? To: univcity@list.purple.com Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
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Hi Georgia, Most of the neighborhood discussions you are looking for are found on UCNeighbors (ucneighb...@lists.asc.upenn.edu). That list was founded a few years ago to avoid unending and undisciplined rants about political views, especially when they turn into personal denunciations of individual neighbors. Since UC-list is unmoderated, it has no mechanism to screen out deranged or trouble-making posts; this is a fact its readers must get used to -- or unsubscribe from. For amiable interactions about neighborhood shops, services and events; cheerful banter; and even deeper discussions about current events as they affect our neighborhood -- most neighbors are now more comfortable opening such subjects on UCNeighbors. That's because it is moderated by a well-known and respected neighbor, Kyle Cassidy, who personally guarantees to filter content lightly if needed, to keep discussions civil. It has never, in fact, been needed, I believe. But it's the difference between a bar with a bouncer (or at least a phone you can call 911 from) and a bar without either. Over time, you tend to get a different traffic at the two establishments. Hundreds of people subscribe to both lists. But UCNeighbors appears to be stronger and more neighborly, in the sense I think you intend, now. -- Tony West Hi, I have recently joined this list to get information about University City and concerns about living here. However it seems to be being used as a platform for individuals personal political beliefs and prejudices. I am confused. Is this really the purpose of this list? Georgia
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-Original Message- From: Wilma de Soto wil.p...@verizon.net To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com; UnivCity listserv univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 6:33 pm Subject: Re: [UC] Purpose of this list? Dear Georgia, Welcome to the University City Listserv, which came from the Spruce Hill Listserv. We accept anyone and everyone who is a member of this community and listen to and tolerate all opinions __ Ahemmm, Wilma, What happened to Sam after he had tea with you at the GreenLine? A Chilean disappearance come North? Or, when Krigman invites a recalcitrant to meet him behind Lil Nell at 2:00 AM to experience UC as a living learning lab or is it MIT bench-work? And, it is a place where you may be playfully -politically incorrect. Feliz Navidad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o And may the blessings of this Christmas be with you throughout the New Year! Ciao, Craig
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If you speak of Sam Nicolary, actually we had coffee together and a VERY good time and talk together. We kept our promise and he¹s cool with me in as far as I know. What Andy Diller may have done Sam to him after that, I cannot say. ³Sam, wherever you are I hope Andy has done right by you.² As for Krigman, Lord only knows. Craig, YOU of ALL people know I am ANYTHING but playfully politically correct, as I have no reason to be. Political correctness was never an invention or contrivance of people like me contrary to mainstream perception. Rather by those who are uncomfortable in the presence of people like me. I cannot help it if they have been impaled upon their own sword and wish to blame me for it.;) Craig, I wish you and yours a Happy Christmas and a Healthy and Prosperous New Year! Fondest regards, Wilma On 12/22/09 7:01 PM, craigso...@aol.com craigso...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: Wilma de Soto wil.p...@verizon.net To: Karen Allen kallena...@msn.com; UnivCity listserv univcity@list.purple.com Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 6:33 pm Subject: Re: [UC] Purpose of this list? Dear Georgia, Welcome to the University City Listserv, which came from the Spruce Hill Listserv. We accept anyone and everyone who is a member of this community and listen to and tolerate all opinions __ Ahemmm, Wilma, What happened to Sam after he had tea with you at the GreenLine? A Chilean disappearance come North? Or, when Krigman invites a recalcitrant to meet him behind Lil Nell at 2:00 AM to experience UC as a living learning lab or is it MIT bench-work? And, it is a place where you may be playfully -politically incorrect. Feliz Navidad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o And may the blessings of this Christmas be with you throughout the New Year! Ciao, Craig
