Re: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Shawn Medero]

Sadly there are very little user friendly/cost-effective options for
home user to backup their data to an offsite location. (Short of
burning DVDs and leaving them in the office... and we always forget to
do it *that* one month while you were on that vacation and ... 1000
lost photos later.)

The best I've seen are applications making use of the Amazon S3
platform or Joyent's BingoDisk service:

JungleDisk (Amazon S3 client): http://www.jungledisk.com/

Joyent: http://www.bingodisk.com/

One thing to consider is that if you are primarily interested in
storage of digital photos you might best off getting a pro account
with a photo sharing service like Flickr. Better than nothing.

If anyone has some venture capital they'd like to throw around, I've
got a business plan with your name on it.

-s

You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see
.

RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Bill Sanderson]

This is the case, and it is not simple, given the large amounts of data you
might want to back up these days.  The technical details are complex, but
you'd either need to grab the server itself (which in my case is a rather
small box with a handle and only two cords to yank out, or an external disk
drive connected to it.  Neither idea is perfect or really simple to manage.

 

In the absence of off-site storage, a fireproof file is an alternative, but
I'm not sure what the specs are for how hot those can get inside during a
fire, nor what the tolerances are of todays storage media.  I have a feeling
that, say, writeable DVD's might well be unusable.  

 

The other eventual mechanism is some form of off-site storage via the
Internet.  These are definitely coming, but the outbound speed for most of
us is slow enough that we'd need to do pretty careful planning about what to
send.

 

I'd also forgotten about Verizon blocking port 80, so the URL below needs a
:8080 appended to it, or alternatively, made HTTPS instead of HTTP to
connect.

 

  _  

From: Turner,Kathleen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:56 AM
To: Bill Sanderson; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

 

Bill,

 

this looks like an interesting solution to the backup issue, but for really
secure backup (for important files such as dissertation research) isn't the
crucial point to store your backup files offsite?  The dear sisters at De
Sales School found this out the hard way with the fire that destroyed the
school offices about 6 years ago.  They had very carefully backed up all the
files that contained the school registration information -- then stored the
disks in a box on the same desk.

 

I have a wonderful colleague who used to back up our catalogue server once a
week, then take the disks home and store them under his bed!  If there had
been a fire or flood in the building, we would have been all set.

 

Kathleen

 

 

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Sanderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:56 PM
To: 'Stephen Fisher'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/defaul
t.mspx

 

This is pretty peripheral to the issues in this post, but I thought I'd
mention it anyway.  This is a very elegant solution to the backup issue in a
household.  It does full machine backups nightly of networked household
machines, and you can restore the data either file by file or rebuild the
whole machine from the ground up using an included restore CD.

 

This product is not available yet, but will probably be in public beta very
soon.  The price is expected to be in the sub $500 range as I understand
it-this is just a small box-no keyboard, no screen, that sits in an out of
the way spot and does backup and remote access for you.

 

See the remote access part at http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com
<http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com/> 

 

(send email if you want credentials to connect)

 

(sorry if this comes across as an ad-I'm just a technical enthusiast-I'll
quit and go back to griping about the manners of the regular posters!)

 

(and it doesn't solve the offsite need-although you can manage that by
adding an external drive to the box)

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Stephen Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

 

Sean and Charlene, I'm really, really sorry about your loss!  That really
sucks.  I also appreciate that you shared your story and your lessons
learned with the lists.

  > 8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often.

I would like to add one point to #8.  Keep a copy of the data backup outside
of your house.  If you can, copy your valuable data to a CD or DVD and leave
a copy at work or elsewhere.  

Best of luck with recovering what you can,
Stephen

 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named
"UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .

Re: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Elizabeth F Campion]

 
I just noticed the Subject line, "... do not be like us".
And thought, more people should be like Sean and Charlene.
They took a hit, identified what could have been done better and shared a
warning and constructive suggestions with their neighbors, including
neighbors they do not know (yet).
 
 
There are no ideal solutions.
 
Perhaps the safest offset backup on the planet were the vaults and
computers below the World Trade Center, until 9/11.
At which point data, priceless photos (including Kennedy family archives)
and the contents of private Safe Deposit boxes were lost forever.
 
Some crime is a 'phase', or driven by temporary need.
Some catchall solutions just provide a finishing school to
professionalize criminality and a record which can limit a career path to
a life of crime.
 
Some 'victims' mature in ways that could never occur without incidents of
loss and suffering.
The grace notes of compassion, personal accountability and forgiveness
strengthen our social bonds.
'Victims" can be paradigms of resiliency, endurance, or success.
 
 
An attempt to replicate lost photos may lead to kindness or art.
Others may copy and send photos they took or received.
A memory of a favorite photo may lead to replication by pen, pencil,
collage, stained glass, poetry or music.
A talented artist can extrapolate backward or forward to capture a
fleeting moment of beauty or pleasure.
 
I will hope and pray that Sean and Charlene recover most of their
possessions and enjoyment of their home and that more of us respond to
adversity as they did.
 
Best!
Liz
 
 

RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Turner,Kathleen]

Bill,
 
this looks like an interesting solution to the backup issue, but for
really secure backup (for important files such as dissertation research)
isn't the crucial point to store your backup files offsite?  The dear
sisters at De Sales School found this out the hard way with the fire
that destroyed the school offices about 6 years ago.  They had very
carefully backed up all the files that contained the school registration
information -- then stored the disks in a box on the same desk.
 
I have a wonderful colleague who used to back up our catalogue server
once a week, then take the disks home and store them under his bed!  If
there had been a fire or flood in the building, we would have been all
set.
 
Kathleen
 
 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sanderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:56 PM
To: 'Stephen Fisher'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us



http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/de
fault.mspx

 

This is pretty peripheral to the issues in this post, but I thought I'd
mention it anyway.  This is a very elegant solution to the backup issue
in a household.  It does full machine backups nightly of networked
household machines, and you can restore the data either file by file or
rebuild the whole machine from the ground up using an included restore
CD.

 

This product is not available yet, but will probably be in public beta
very soon.  The price is expected to be in the sub $500 range as I
understand it-this is just a small box-no keyboard, no screen, that sits
in an out of the way spot and does backup and remote access for you.

 

See the remote access part at http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com
<http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com/> 

 

(send email if you want credentials to connect)

 

(sorry if this comes across as an ad-I'm just a technical
enthusiast-I'll quit and go back to griping about the manners of the
regular posters!)

 

(and it doesn't solve the offsite need-although you can manage that by
adding an external drive to the box)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

 

Sean and Charlene, I'm really, really sorry about your loss!  That
really sucks.  I also appreciate that you shared your story and your
lessons learned with the lists.

  > 8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often.

I would like to add one point to #8.  Keep a copy of the data backup
outside of your house.  If you can, copy your valuable data to a CD or
DVD and leave a copy at work or elsewhere.  

Best of luck with recovering what you can,
Stephen



 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named
"UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .

RE: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Bill Sanderson]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/defaul
t.mspx

 

This is pretty peripheral to the issues in this post, but I thought I'd
mention it anyway.  This is a very elegant solution to the backup issue in a
household.  It does full machine backups nightly of networked household
machines, and you can restore the data either file by file or rebuild the
whole machine from the ground up using an included restore CD.

 

This product is not available yet, but will probably be in public beta very
soon.  The price is expected to be in the sub $500 range as I understand
it-this is just a small box-no keyboard, no screen, that sits in an out of
the way spot and does backup and remote access for you.

 

See the remote access part at http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com
<http://mccoysanderson.livenode.com/> 

 

(send email if you want credentials to connect)

 

(sorry if this comes across as an ad-I'm just a technical enthusiast-I'll
quit and go back to griping about the manners of the regular posters!)

 

(and it doesn't solve the offsite need-although you can manage that by
adding an external drive to the box)

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Stephen Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

 

Sean and Charlene, I'm really, really sorry about your loss!  That really
sucks.  I also appreciate that you shared your story and your lessons
learned with the lists.

  > 8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often.

I would like to add one point to #8.  Keep a copy of the data backup outside
of your house.  If you can, copy your valuable data to a CD or DVD and leave
a copy at work or elsewhere.  

Best of luck with recovering what you can,
Stephen



 You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named
"UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .

Re: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Krfapt]

 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 10:52:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Finally,  back up all data on your computers, often.



The online backup services are useful, and many are free. I use Mozy (see  
_http://www.iconworldwide.com/free-auto-backup_ 
(http://www.iconworldwide.com/free-auto-backup) )   

Always at  your service & ready for a dialog,
Al Krigman -- 36-year local resident,  housing provider, curmudgeon, and 
all-around  crank,




** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Krfapt]

 
In a message dated 5/29/2007 11:18:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am a  big supporter of having bars on your first floor or any windows that 
someone  can gain access to.  If you don't want to have them mounted on the 
house,  get the indoor ones that you can put up yourself, put a lock on them 
and 
keep  the key to the lock somewhere close enough that you can get to it if 
you need  to get out quickly, but not so close that someone could try to reach 
in to get  it. 


We have bars on the first floor windows of all our apartment buildings, and  
some on upper floors if there's easy access (e.g., a porch roof). We believe 
--  based on anecdotal rather than statistical evidence -- that most break-ins  
in a neighborhood like ours are not a result of someone being targeted, but 
are  targets of opportunity. And a miscreant is likely to pass up a building 
with  bars of any sort in favor of something that looks much easier.
 
City codes require that if there are bars on bedroom windows, that they can  
be easily and quickly opened from the inside -- without a key. This is a rule  
you should follow -- most fire fatalities occur in bedrooms.
 
There are relatively inexpensive interior bars (Monarch Hardware, Home  
Depot, somethimes the Second Mile Center have them) that swing open. They have 
a  
latch that's not readily accessible from the outside.  

Al (they call  me Mr Helpful) Krigman





** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[missthin]

Sean and Charlene,

I'd like to add my condolences about what must have been an awful experience
and a very scary shock when you came home.  For me, reading that whoever did
this was walking around your house with a big knife is really scary.  Thank
goodness you weren't home, in a way.

We had an experience with someone trying to get into the house through the
dining room window.  The dining room is in the alleyway and he was coming
through the screen.  What saved us was we had someone staying here who was
on the first floor and one of my roomie's cats saw this man and starting
meowing really loud.  This woke our friend up who stumbled into the dining
room to see what was going on.  Found a man halfway in the window!  She
scared him away.  Bars went up very soon after that.

I am a big supporter of having bars on your first floor or any windows that
someone can gain access to.  If you don't want to have them mounted on the
house, get the indoor ones that you can put up yourself, put a lock on them
and keep the key to the lock somewhere close enough that you can get to it
if you need to get out quickly, but not so close that someone could try to
reach in to get it.

I also agree with the not having shrubs/bushes that are so large they can
hide someone lurking.  That is a big safety issue to me.  I'd rather cut the
shrubs back and have them look kind of bare until they get to fill out than
worry about someone using the cover to get into the house or there just
waiting for someone coming home.

I'm glad you all are physically ok.  I'm sure you're sick over the pictures
being gone, along with your dissertation.  Backing up is always a good idea,
but it's one that I have to admit I don't do as often as I should.

Besides changing the locks, keep the alarm armed, canceling your credit
cards, get in touch with any online banking/financial services (like
paypal), shopping and perhaps your email accounts.  If they got your
computers and know or have someone who knows, and you've used the computers
for such things, they can get your info.  Were the police helpful?

Again, I'm so sorry you had to go through this.

Wendy

On 5/29/07, Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Sean and Charlene, I'm really, really sorry about your loss!  That really
sucks.  I also appreciate that you shared your story and your lessons
learned with the lists.

  > 8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often.

I would like to add one point to #8.  Keep a copy of the data backup
outside of your house.  If you can, copy your valuable data to a CD or DVD
and leave a copy at work or elsewhere.

Best of luck with recovering what you can,
Stephen


Sean and Charlene McGrew wrote:

Dear Neighbors,

We live on the 4700 block of Osage Avenue and our house was broken into on
Saturday night between 4:30 and 8 pm.

The burglar cut the screen on the open window and climbed into the house.
He (?) went through the entire house and took several items, including 2
laptops, 2 iPods, a digital camera, cell phone, house key, and some other
random things We also found that he took one of our large kitchen knives
around the house with him and left it in the basement.

We have lived in this area for 5 years, and we do know better than to
leave our house wide open for theft. Any urban environment would require
some effort in home protection. So while you are surely already aware of
precautions you can take, we'd like to offer some friendly reminders (and
lessons learned!):

1) Keep the area around your house well lit
2) Trim the bushes that may obstruct views to windows. The tree and bushes
in front of our house covered much of the view to the front windows. The
burglar was able to climb into the window undetected.
3) Arm your alarm if you have one. We went out for a few hours and did not
bother, but it probably would have scared the burglar away.
4) Don't leave your keys in the deadbolts. Our burglar let himself out and
took the key(s) with him.
5) Lock all your windows
6) Leave a light on when you're not home
7) Put blinds on your windows
8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often. All of my
disseration research and all of my son's baby pictures are gone because it's
been over a year since I backed up my data.

I hope this helps. Do not get complacent, as we had!

Sean and Charlene McGrew


  --
Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel 
today!

  You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named
"UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see .

[UC] Re: Our house was burglarized; do not be like us

[Stephen Fisher]

Sean and Charlene, I'm really, really sorry about your loss!  That
really sucks.  I also appreciate that you shared your story and your
lessons learned with the lists.

  > 8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often.

I would like to add one point to #8.  Keep a copy of the data backup
outside of your house.  If you can, copy your valuable data to a CD or
DVD and
leave a copy at work or elsewhere.  

Best of luck with recovering what you can,
Stephen


Sean and Charlene McGrew wrote:
Dear Neighbors,
  
We live on the 4700 block of Osage Avenue and our house was broken into
on Saturday night between 4:30 and 8 pm. 
  
The burglar cut the screen on the open window and climbed into the
house. He (?) went through the entire house and took several items,
including 2 laptops, 2 iPods, a digital camera, cell phone, house key,
and some other random things We also found that he took one of our
large kitchen knives around the house with him and left it in the
basement. 
  
We have lived in this area for 5 years, and we do know better than to
leave our house wide open for theft. Any urban environment would
require some effort in home protection. So while you are surely already
aware of precautions you can take, we'd like to offer some friendly
reminders (and lessons learned!):
  
1) Keep the area around your house well lit
2) Trim the bushes that may obstruct views to windows. The tree and
bushes in front of our house covered much of the view to the front
windows. The burglar was able to climb into the window undetected.
3) Arm your alarm if you have one. We went out for a few hours and did
not bother, but it probably would have scared the burglar away.
4) Don't leave your keys in the deadbolts. Our burglar let himself out
and took the key(s) with him.
5) Lock all your windows
6) Leave a light on when you're not home
7) Put blinds on your windows
8) Finally, back up all data on your computers, often. All of my
disseration research and all of my son's baby pictures are gone because
it's been over a year since I backed up my data. 
  
I hope this helps. Do not get complacent, as we had!
  
Sean and Charlene McGrew
  
  
  
   
  Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join
our Network Research Panel today!




You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see
.