Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread Ross Bender 

Mr. UCD, tear down this wall!!

On 6/6/07, Fred Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Yes. The wall makes a nice casual meeting spot-for a community of loud,
inconsiderate folks who don't care about the community that lives there and
carry on until 3 or 4 inthe morning. Neighbors who live on the 4700 block of
Baltimore and the 4700 block of Warrington have been trying to get the wall
taken down for years.

Benny has wanted the wall down because people dump garbage on the parking
lot side of it, and he then has to clean it up.

The hookers and druggies want it to stay, cause it helps them conduct
business.

Down with the wall!


Fred Wolfe

(btw, the new mural is going to be great)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim (
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the community to an
issue that concerns him and to find out what to do about it. Apparently, the
short wall fronting the parking lot on the 4700 block of Baltimore Ave is
heading for demolition to make way for some shrubs. He feels that the wall
provides a nice casual meeting spot for the community and that it would be a
shame to lose it. Any thoughts?

Margie


On 6/5/07, *UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:


also, I just checked and found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
subscribed to the list.



Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send mail to the list.
What's your point? There are a whole lot of dubious characters subscribed to
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical handles somebody made
up when they were bored? There are 369 addresses subscribed to this list and
I'd be willing to wager that up to a third of them are dead, another third
are dogs pretending to be people, and maybe one-tenth are actual real-life
subscribers.

That's why it would be nice to see some introductions from the lurkers.







--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org

Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread John Ellingsworth 
There is a trash can directly in front of the wall, next to the bike 
rack.  It seems it is often ignored by the wallsitters.


Regards,

John Ellingsworth

Kyle Cassidy wrote:

I use the carshare in the parking lot right behind the wall. In my
experience, there are always a few people using it as a table to eat
from Styrofoam takeout containers and tossing chicken bones into the
parking lot. They always look happy though. Maybe some trash cans would
help. As to whether the wall posse is a deterrent to crime in and around
the parking lot or a catalyst I'm not exactly sure. 


In practical terms, I think the wall is a hazard for drivers, bikers,
and pedestrians. It's difficult to get out of that parking lot onto
Baltimore with the reduced field of view. 


In other news, I'm really glad to see Vientiane has new outdoor seating
-- I hope Saad re-installs his.

Kc


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Wolfe
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:08 PM
To: Margie Politzer
Cc: University City listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

Yes. The wall makes a nice casual meeting spot-for a community of loud,
inconsiderate folks who don't care about the community that lives there
and carry on until 3 or 4 inthe morning. Neighbors who live on the 4700
block of Baltimore and the 4700 block of Warrington have been trying to
get the wall taken down for years. 


Benny has wanted the wall down because people dump garbage on the
parking lot side of it, and he then has to clean it up.

The hookers and druggies want it to stay, cause it helps them conduct
business. 


Down with the wall!


Fred Wolfe

(btw, the new mural is going to be great) 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the community to
an issue that concerns him and to find out what to do about it.
Apparently, the short wall fronting the parking lot on the 4700 block of
Baltimore Ave is heading for demolition to make way for some shrubs. He
feels that the wall provides a nice casual meeting spot for the
community and that it would be a shame to lose it. Any thoughts?

Margie


On 6/5/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:



also, I just checked and found that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is
subscribed to the list.



		 
		Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send

mail to the list. What's your point? There are a whole lot of dubious
characters subscribed to the list, like frintstance: 
		

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
		[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical
handles somebody made up when they were bored? There are 369 addresses
subscribed to this list and I'd be willing to wager that up to a third
of them are dead, another third are dogs pretending to be people, and
maybe one-tenth are actual real-life subscribers. 
		

That's why it would be nice to see some introductions
from the lurkers.









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RE: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread Kyle Cassidy 
I use the carshare in the parking lot right behind the wall. In my
experience, there are always a few people using it as a table to eat
from Styrofoam takeout containers and tossing chicken bones into the
parking lot. They always look happy though. Maybe some trash cans would
help. As to whether the wall posse is a deterrent to crime in and around
the parking lot or a catalyst I'm not exactly sure. 

In practical terms, I think the wall is a hazard for drivers, bikers,
and pedestrians. It's difficult to get out of that parking lot onto
Baltimore with the reduced field of view. 

In other news, I'm really glad to see Vientiane has new outdoor seating
-- I hope Saad re-installs his.

Kc


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Wolfe
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:08 PM
To: Margie Politzer
Cc: University City listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

Yes. The wall makes a nice casual meeting spot-for a community of loud,
inconsiderate folks who don't care about the community that lives there
and carry on until 3 or 4 inthe morning. Neighbors who live on the 4700
block of Baltimore and the 4700 block of Warrington have been trying to
get the wall taken down for years. 

Benny has wanted the wall down because people dump garbage on the
parking lot side of it, and he then has to clean it up.

The hookers and druggies want it to stay, cause it helps them conduct
business. 

Down with the wall!


Fred Wolfe

(btw, the new mural is going to be great) 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the community to
an issue that concerns him and to find out what to do about it.
Apparently, the short wall fronting the parking lot on the 4700 block of
Baltimore Ave is heading for demolition to make way for some shrubs. He
feels that the wall provides a nice casual meeting spot for the
community and that it would be a shame to lose it. Any thoughts?

Margie


On 6/5/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:



also, I just checked and found that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is
subscribed to the list.



 
Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send
mail to the list. What's your point? There are a whole lot of dubious
characters subscribed to the list, like frintstance: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical
handles somebody made up when they were bored? There are 369 addresses
subscribed to this list and I'd be willing to wager that up to a third
of them are dead, another third are dogs pretending to be people, and
maybe one-tenth are actual real-life subscribers. 

That's why it would be nice to see some introductions
from the lurkers.









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Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread Fred Wolfe 
Yes. The wall makes a nice casual meeting spot-for a community of loud, 
inconsiderate folks who don't care about the community that lives there 
and carry on until 3 or 4 inthe morning. Neighbors who live on the 4700 
block of Baltimore and the 4700 block of Warrington have been trying to 
get the wall taken down for years.


Benny has wanted the wall down because people dump garbage on the 
parking lot side of it, and he then has to clean it up.


The hookers and druggies want it to stay, cause it helps them conduct 
business.


Down with the wall!


Fred Wolfe

(btw, the new mural is going to be great)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the
community to an issue that concerns him and to find out what to do
about it. Apparently, the short wall fronting the parking lot on
the 4700 block of Baltimore Ave is heading for demolition to make
way for some shrubs. He feels that the wall provides a nice casual
meeting spot for the community and that it would be a shame to
lose it. Any thoughts?

Margie


On 6/5/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


also, I just checked and found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
subscribed to the list.


 
Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send mail to the

list. What's your point? There are a whole lot of dubious
characters subscribed to the list, like frintstance:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical handles
somebody made up when they were bored? There are 369 addresses
subscribed to this list and I'd be willing to wager that up to a
third of them are dead, another third are dogs pretending to be
people, and maybe one-tenth are actual real-life subscribers.

That's why it would be nice to see some introductions from the
lurkers.

Re: [UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread John Ellingsworth 
The only time I see the wall used - and I go by that spot many times 
daily, at least twice every day - is for folks from the the bars to sit 
and smoke some weed.


I don't think replacing the wall with a bench (as the flyer taped to the 
wall suggests) will alleviate this problem.


I rarely see it used for much else, but I am certain others will say it is.

Maybe it can get historic designation and they won't be able to tear it 
down ... but they should tear it down, IMO.


Regards,

John Ellingsworth

Margie Politzer wrote:

It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the community to an
issue that concerns him and to find out what to do about it. Apparently, the
short wall fronting the parking lot on the 4700 block of Baltimore Ave is
heading for demolition to make way for some shrubs. He feels that the wall
provides a nice casual meeting spot for the community and that it would be a
shame to lose it. Any thoughts?

Margie


On 6/5/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

also, I just checked and found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
subscribed to the list.
 
Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send mail to the list. What's

your point? There are a whole lot of dubious characters subscribed to the
list, like frintstance:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical handles somebody made up
when they were bored? There are 369 addresses subscribed to this list and I'd
be willing to wager that up to a third of them are dead, another third are
dogs pretending to be people, and maybe one-tenth are actual real-life
subscribers. 


That's why it would be nice to see some introductions from the lurkers.








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[UC] Wall on Baltimore Ave (was Headers..).

2007-06-06 Thread Margie Politzer 
> It has been brought to my attention that the reason Tim
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) joined the list was to alert the community to an
> issue that concerns him and to find out what to do about it. Apparently, the
> short wall fronting the parking lot on the 4700 block of Baltimore Ave is
> heading for demolition to make way for some shrubs. He feels that the wall
> provides a nice casual meeting spot for the community and that it would be a
> shame to lose it. Any thoughts?
> 
> Margie
> 
> 
> On 6/5/07, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> also, I just checked and found that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
>> subscribed to the list.
> 
>  
> Of course, doofus. Otherwise he/she/it couldn't send mail to the list. What's
> your point? There are a whole lot of dubious characters subscribed to the
> list, like frintstance:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Who knows if these are real people or just whimsical handles somebody made up
> when they were bored? There are 369 addresses subscribed to this list and I'd
> be willing to wager that up to a third of them are dead, another third are
> dogs pretending to be people, and maybe one-tenth are actual real-life
> subscribers. 
> 
> That's why it would be nice to see some introductions from the lurkers.
> 
>