Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-05 Thread Glenn



On 5/5/2011 12:40 AM, Richard Conrad wrote:
P.S.  I may be wrong but as I had read the rules for unsubscribing, 
you and some others did not actually do so... again, maybe I'm wrong 
and it may not be all that significant a point... but unsubscribe 
should be in the body and the email addressed to majordomo.  Please 
let me know if I am correct, or not, about this.  Thank You.




Rick,

This public unsubscribe started back with the catchment district fight 
for the Penn school.  The catchment district was designed to closely 
resemble the SHCA historic district boundaries.


Our so called community leaders didn't have time dealing with the 
deranged neighbors or civic associations outside of that boundary. They 
were too busy in back rooms! So they made a big deal of ignoring 
discussions on this public list.


The public neighborhood listserv is one of the great threats to abuse of 
power.  It is one of the internet tools, which gives people the greatest 
hope for using the internet to regain democracy, as well as quickly 
inform neighbors about neighborhood issues or threats.



As West's ideology insists, good neighbors want controlled advertising 
for consumption.  Good neighbors want censorship of neighborhood issues, 
so we have happy, happy, joy, joy while the experts control all 
neighborhood decisions!


Censorship was used ubiquitously against the populations across the Arab 
world.  Freedom of the press and speech is enshrined in the very first 
amendment for a good reason. But here is the song that good consumers sing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABWyXKT5qt4




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Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-05 Thread William H. Magill

On May 5, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Glenn wrote:

 On 5/5/2011 12:40 AM, Richard Conrad wrote:
 P.S.  I may be wrong but as I had read the rules for unsubscribing, you and 
 some others did not actually do so... again, maybe I'm wrong and it may not 
 be all that significant a point... but unsubscribe should be in the body 
 and the email addressed to majordomo.  Please let me know if I am correct, 
 or not, about this.  Thank You.
 
 
 Rick,
 
 This public unsubscribe started back with the catchment district fight for 
 the Penn school.  The catchment district was designed to closely resemble the 
 SHCA historic district boundaries.
 
 Our so called community leaders didn't have time dealing with the deranged 
 neighbors or civic associations outside of that boundary. They were too busy 
 in back rooms! So they made a big deal of ignoring discussions on this public 
 list.


1- The public unsubscribe is usually done by people who have little Computer 
experience and, quite literally, have no idea how to unsubscribe

2- The catchment district: was gerrymandered by Councilwoman Blackwell's 
Office. The original district proposed by the Philadelphia School District was, 
in fact rectangular and based on population density. It was considerably 
smaller than the proposed historic district. The final district was warped into 
a very strange shape, making previously stable neighborhoods into rapidly 
gentrified ones as housing prices skyrocketed on homes within the catchment. 
... and covers even less of the still only proposed Historic District. The 
creation of the Catchment area was a purely political process, orchestrated by 
our ELECTED political leaders, not community leaders.

3- the public unsubscribe from the purple list began long before the Penn 
Alexander School was proposed. In fact, most of the exodus occurred in the 
debate over the Historic District some 20+ years ago.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
mag...@mcgillsociety.org
mag...@me.com
whmag...@gmail.com





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Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-05 Thread UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN

On 5/5/11 1:56 PM, William H. Magill wrote:

1- The public unsubscribe is usually done by people who have little
Computer experience and, quite literally, have no idea how to
unsubscribe

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Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-05 Thread Elliot M. Stern
Glenn is mistaken, if he believes that Tony West requested an unsubscribe, 
because it was Jennifer Rumain who posted message.

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Begin forwarded message:

 From: Glenn glen...@earthlink.net
 Date: 05 May 2011 2:52:23 PM EDT
 To: William H. Magill mag...@mcgillsociety.org
 Cc: University City List univcity@list.purple.com
 Subject: Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity
 Reply-To: Glenn glen...@earthlink.net
 
 Interesting opinions.  Your posting style has greatly improved, Bill. 
 
 
  But no, Tony West's unsubscribe is fake, as are many of the public 
 unsubscribes we've seen.  As long as committeeman7 is lurking in the slime, 
 I'm quite certain that Tony will be around!
   
 
 Can anyone from the old UCCC explain why SHCA was not part of your 
 organization?  Was the catchment district done privately, as Bill suggests, 
 by elected officials without input from SHCA and Penn partners?  I heard that 
 Councilwoman Blackwell was disobedient to Penn at that time??
 
 I was busy fighting the FOCP, and don't know the details of this seemingly 
 divisive catchment district debate.  Was the catchment debate happy happy joy 
 joy all around the UCD?
 
 Thanks for additional info,
 Glenn
 
 
 
 On 5/5/2011 1:56 PM, William H. Magill wrote:
 
 On May 5, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Glenn wrote:
 
 On 5/5/2011 12:40 AM, Richard Conrad wrote:
 P.S.  I may be wrong but as I had read the rules for unsubscribing, you 
 and some others did not actually do so... again, maybe I'm wrong and it 
 may not be all that significant a point... but unsubscribe should be in 
 the body and the email addressed to majordomo.  Please let me know if I am 
 correct, or not, about this.  Thank You.
 
 Rick,
 
 This public unsubscribe started back with the catchment district fight 
 for the Penn school.  The catchment district was designed to closely 
 resemble the SHCA historic district boundaries.
 
 Our so called community leaders didn't have time dealing with the deranged 
 neighbors or civic associations outside of that boundary. They were too 
 busy in back rooms! So they made a big deal of ignoring discussions on this 
 public list.
 
 1- The public unsubscribe is usually done by people who have little 
 Computer experience and, quite literally, have no idea how to unsubscribe
 
 2- The catchment district: was gerrymandered by Councilwoman Blackwell's 
 Office. The original district proposed by the Philadelphia School District 
 was, in fact rectangular and based on population density. It was 
 considerably smaller than the proposed historic district. The final district 
 was warped into a very strange shape, making previously stable 
 neighborhoods into rapidly gentrified ones as housing prices skyrocketed on 
 homes within the catchment. ... and covers even less of the still only 
 proposed Historic District. The creation of the Catchment area was a purely 
 political process, orchestrated by our ELECTED political leaders, not 
 community leaders.
 
 3- the public unsubscribe from the purple list began long before the 
 Penn Alexander School was proposed. In fact, most of the exodus occurred in 
 the debate over the Historic District some 20+ years ago.
 
 T.T.F.N.
 William H. Magill
 mag...@mcgillsociety.org
 mag...@me.com
 whmag...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-04 Thread Anthony West
Newcomers to University City who have inadvertently stumbled across this 
listserve, tricked by its name into thinking it somehow *represents the 
neighborhood of University City, *should be warned it is UNMODERATED. 
Therefore, there is no way of weeding out deranged and disruptive posts.


UCNeighbors is a MODERATED neighborhood listserve. While everyone is 
permitted to post on it, deranged and disruptive posts are eventually 
screened out. That's the chief reason it has become more popular in our 
neighborhood than the purple list, in the past few years. No question, 
the talk is more sane there!


You can sign up at ucneighb...@googlegroups.com.

--Tony West




Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Conrad
You represented the UCNeighbors list on the UnivCity list so it seems 
appropriate to post your remarks here as well as there, Tony.  It wouldn't hurt 
you to be honest and reply to Glenn's concerns as well as mine but you've 
refused to do so...  You have ignored what you apparently could not answer and 
belittled the rest rather than debate honestly.  My point about sales of park 
lands was a valid one and you must know that, if not you should check it out 
because you really ignored the facts in your emails.  Whenever you are 
non-plussed you become abusive, disinterested, and haughty.  Lots of good 
comments you ignored.  Lists of concerns you represented as a single and 
inconsequential voice of unwarranted dissent.  The uncensored UnivCity list 
here has a long history of your officious behavior for any one to peruse.  When 
the segregated list first started out still under the University of 
Pennsylvania auspices, (as UnivCity still is) it was made to leave because it 
violated democratic precepts that the University had committed to.  Asking you 
for fair treatment certainly hasn't changed things much.  Feel free to change 
that any time treatment you want, but please no more calling others names 
(deranged, disruptive, source of nutty falsehoods, 'nefarious conspiracy 
theory', 'Trump-talk', etc.) and then saying it was all your opponent's fault 
because they abused the list.  It's time to communicte.  Enough Monty Python 
division crap for crap craziness!  When they did it it was funny.  This is not. 
 Shake hands and come out talking!  

Rick Conrad

   
On May 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Newcomers to University City who have inadvertently stumbled across this 
 listserve, tricked by its name into thinking it somehow represents the 
 neighborhood of University City, should be warned it is UNMODERATED. 
 Therefore, there is no way of weeding out deranged and disruptive posts.
 
 UCNeighbors is a MODERATED neighborhood listserve. While everyone is 
 permitted to post on it, deranged and disruptive posts are eventually 
 screened out. That's the chief reason it has become more popular in our 
 neighborhood than the purple list, in the past few years. No question, the 
 talk is more sane there!
 
 You can sign up at ucneighb...@googlegroups.com.
 
 --Tony West
 
 



Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-04 Thread Richard Conrad
P.S.  I may be wrong but as I had read the rules for unsubscribing, you and 
some others did not actually do so... again, maybe I'm wrong and it may not be 
all that significant a point... but unsubscribe should be in the body and the 
email addressed to majordomo.  Please let me know if I am correct, or not, 
about this.  Thank You.


You represented the UCNeighbors list on the UnivCity list so it seems 
appropriate to post your remarks here as well as there, Tony.  It wouldn't hurt 
you to be honest and reply to Glenn's concerns as well as mine but you've 
refused to do so...  You have ignored what you apparently could not answer and 
belittled the rest rather than debate honestly.  My point about sales of park 
lands was a valid one and you must know that, if not you should check it out 
because you really ignored the facts in your emails.  Whenever you are 
non-plussed you become abusive, disinterested, and haughty.  Lots of good 
comments you ignored.  Lists of concerns you represented as a single and 
inconsequential voice of unwarranted dissent.  The uncensored UnivCity list 
here has a long history of your officious behavior for any one to peruse.  When 
the segregated list first started out still under the University of 
Pennsylvania auspices, (as UnivCity still is) it was made to leave because it 
violated democratic precepts that the University had committed to.  Asking you 
for fair treatment certainly hasn't changed things much.  Feel free to change 
that treatment any time you want, but please no more calling others names 
(deranged, disruptive, source of nutty falsehoods, 'nefarious conspiracy 
theory', 'Trump-talk', etc.) and then saying it was all your opponent's fault 
because they abused the list.  It's time to communicte.  Enough Monty Python 
division crap for crap craziness!  When they did it it was funny.  This is not. 
 Shake hands and come out talking!  

Rick Conrad

   
On May 4, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Newcomers to University City who have inadvertently stumbled across this 
 listserve, tricked by its name into thinking it somehow represents the 
 neighborhood of University City, should be warned it is UNMODERATED. 
 Therefore, there is no way of weeding out deranged and disruptive posts.
 
 UCNeighbors is a MODERATED neighborhood listserve. While everyone is 
 permitted to post on it, deranged and disruptive posts are eventually 
 screened out. That's the chief reason it has become more popular in our 
 neighborhood than the purple list, in the past few years. No question, the 
 talk is more sane there!
 
 You can sign up at ucneighb...@googlegroups.com.
 
 --Tony West
 
 



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2011-05-02 Thread Jennifer Rumain
 

Re: [UC] unsubscribe UnivCity

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Conrad
I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the 
death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, 
adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot 
drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only 
love can do that 
— Martin Luther King Jr


On May 2, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Jennifer Rumain wrote:

  



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