Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Greg Erskine

Sorry, the harder I try, the more I confuse people. :o  I've had this
problem for a long time now. :D

See step 1 to step 3.

https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-78156?ICID=rpimain-related-prods

Looking at these pictures it is supposed to be on the bottom.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread atrocity

atrocity wrote: 
> Mine is more near the middle.

Picture: http://www.wywh.com/PiTouch/20170124_190339.jpg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread atrocity

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> My ribbon cable is at the top, so I would like to know is that normal or
> not.

Mine is more near the middle.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread atrocity

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> 
> Do most people have the "newer" screen and have to rotate it all the
> time?
> 
> Are your cables on top?

I got my official Pi 7" touchscreen at Fry's on Saturday so I assume
it's reasonably new. I had no idea at the time that there was an
available enclosure, so I just had it propped up using the Pi and
HiFiBerry Digi+ as the stand. I quickly learned of the existence of the
Smart Pi Touch enclosure, so I picked one up the next day. When
assembled and placed normally, the cables come out of the bottom. So now
I need to see if I can snag a right-angle digital coax. It's a bit too
tight for my taste with a normal cable in there.

I'm sure setting it up properly is more stable, but I actually didn't
mind just turning the whole thing upside down and propping the stand up
on a Cubox i4Pro. Because, of course, in my bedroom a have a Cubox
i4Pro, a Squeezebox Touch, the above-mentioned Pi B+ and a Wandboard.
Because everyone does that and I'm totally normal and not obsessed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Greg Erskine

Thanks,

I meant the flat ribbon cable between screen and screen PCB.

My ribbon cable is at the top, so I would like to know is that normal or
not. From what I remember, the first screen support hardware had the
screen upside down.

I think it would be clearer if we had on the web interface 0 or 180
degrees.

regards
Greg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread AngloCuencano

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Hi guys, RE: screen rotation.
> 
> What is normal now?
> 
> The "original" screen was upside down but we made the default to rotate
> it (even though SCREENROTATE="no").
> 
> Do most people have the "newer" screen and have to rotate it all the
> time?
> 
> Are your cables on top?
> 
> regards

I got the screen for Christmas, so I presume it's the newer screen. The
power and audio cables are at the bottom. Everything works perfectly
well now with the default rotate setting, but it was a nonsensical
process to get there. First boot - upside down. Change to 'rotate
screen' and reboot - still upside down. Change back to default and
reboot - display is correct.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Eyerex

Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Hi guys, RE: screen rotation.
> 
> What is normal now?
> 
> The "original" screen was upside down but we made the default to rotate
> it (even though SCREENROTATE="no").
> 
> Do most people have the "newer" screen and have to rotate it all the
> time?
> 
> Are your cables on top?
> 
> regards

I have the 7" official touchscreen with case where if using a HiFi Berry
DAC the RCA connectors are on top and never had to rotate screen as it's
always been the right way up only time i've had to rotate is when using
just Raspbian



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Greg Erskine

Hi guys, RE: screen rotation.

What is normal now?

The "original" screen was upside down but we made the default to rotate
it (even though SCREENROTATE="no").

Do most people have the "newer" screen and have to rotate it all the
time?

Are your cables on top?

regards



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread Michael Herger

LMS_safe = 'logitechmediaserver' plus the '_safe' suffix. Which


The _safe task is a process watcher which would restart the main task if 
needed. You should always see both of them, or something's wrong.


I think the LMS executable is stored in /usr/sbin or /usr/local/sbin. 
Could you try to run this from the command line with the additional 
--d_startup --debug=server parameters? Anything interesting there?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Mnyb

Ah cool I've found the filter settings for my DAC they are in the PiCore
player web-UI already :) sorry for the noise .

The same chip as the HiffiBerry so you get :

http://archimago.blogspot.se/2016/10/measurements-hifiberry-dac-pro-pcm5122.html

Next thing to experiment with resampling in squeezelite with some
attenuation (-3,-6dB) as the TI DAC does not take care of intersample
overs in any way in it's oversampler




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Greg Erskine

ziegelstein wrote: 
> Update: 
> 1. when i stop the actual squeezelite instance
> 2. i can start several new instanzes in terminal with:
> > 
Code:

  >   > sudo /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n "Küche" -o Küche -a 80:::0:  -m 
ab:cd:ef:12:34:60 -z

> > 
> > 
Code:

  >   > sudo /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n "EG_Diele" -o Diele -a 80:::0:  -m 
ab:cd:ef:12:34:61 -z

> > 
> 3. Backup via:
> > 
Code:

  >   > sudo filetool.sh -b

> > 
> 
> But: 
> after reboot all instances are lost.
> I also tried to work with "User command section of the tweaks web
> page" --> instances were lost too after reboot.
> 
> So it seems to me that there is a need for a startupscribt update -
> but for me as a "NOOB" :o not possible without help.
> 
> so please - is there anybody out there?
> 
> regards,
> S

Hi S,

Processes run from the command line will disappear after a reboot, that
is a given.

Try something like this in User Commands.


Code:

/usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n EG_Diele -o Diele -a 80:::0:  -m 
ab:cd:ef:12:34:61 



As mentioned in the More > Help " and & are invalid characters. The -z
in not needed as all User commands are backgrounded.

regards
Greg



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread drmatt

Ok I think we are getting away from the point a little here.

A couple of things: init.d still works, systemd is required to run
non-compliant init.d scripts just like before. Unless someone has
modified the LMS startup to deliberately bolt into systemd then its
behaviour will still be dictated by the presence or otherwise of files
in init.d.

Second Telnet is more a generic TCP connection method than a terminal.
If port 9000 responds to your web browser, it will respond to telnet. If
it doesn't respond to telnet you are pretty sure there's nothing
listening on port 9000.

Something of course changed, but you need to get a log of a failed LMS
startup to debug it.

Fwiw my Debian OS on my server has been continuously upgraded since
around 2004, through numerous hardware upgrades and I've never had to
even consider a fresh install. (There are orphaned config files from a
decade ago, seriously. I know, I should clean up, but I now wear this
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread DJanGo

MartinK wrote: 
> Apart from that there have been absolutely no hacks on the system.
ok - just thought there is some text like > deleting the user and group 
settings everything and as admin@work i do really know the stories from the 
customers who
told me  "i didnt change anything" so i tought i am prepared when you
wrote your story (thats just the start).


Ubuntu / debian 8 didnt use Sysvinit anymore - they use systemd.
If you "hacking" inside /etc/init.d thats not the way.

Whats happen if you reinstall the server, stop the server (not the
hardware - only lms) and restart the lms server?

What told you *systemctl status* ?

i think - fastet way to solve your problem is start from scratch and i
would recommend a lts Version of ubuntu like 16.04 instead of a
shorttermsupport version like 16.10.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread Mnyb

sckramer wrote: 
> FYI, did a quick vid on this awhile ago... might help you (and shows how
> it ties together). The IQaudio is PCM51xx based also, so it's the same
> as the D+PRO
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbcsKjLaOY

Nice Video thanks , where did you find all this information well
documented .
That was a pointer in the rigth direction ... Thankyou again.
I've now found a pdf manual at the IQaudio site that explains some of
this with pictures . Similar to your Video

PiCore Player says this

> 
> Set ALSA control for volume adjustment (-V) 
> 
> Use ALSA control for volume adjustment otherwise use software volume
> adjustment.
> 
> Select and use the appropiate name of the possible controls from the
> list below.
> 
> Note: Not supported with -U option.
> 
> You have the following audio cards/controls:
> 
> Card 0: ALSA - Control: PCM
> Card 1: IQaudIODAC - Control: DSP Program Analogue Analogue Playback
> Boost Auto Mute Auto Mute Mono Auto Mute Time Left Auto Mute Time Right
> Clock Missing Period Deemphasis Digital Max Overclock DAC Max Overclock
> DSP Max Overclock PLL Volume Ramp Down Emergency Rate Volume Ramp Down
> Emergency Step Volume Ramp Down Rate Volume Ramp Down Step Volume Ramp
> Up Rate Volume Ramp Up Step 

I see that "Digital" is a reported control of this card . Is this
possible to list in more human readable form :) a linux command some
documentation ??

This corresponds to what alsmixer shows me ,I have two kinds of analogue
volume a normal and some "boost" and a Digital volume  and some
possibilities to set step size in volume .
I can change filters "DSP" .

I see the same thing regarding Volume .

But as i understands it "Analogue" toggles -6,0 dB on and off "Analogue
Boost" toggles +0.80 dB Digital is a real volume control . I can see
that in the alsamixer ?

IQaudio claim that the card has hardware volume control .

Can I assume that choosing "Digital" means that i use the volume of the
IQ audio DAC ?

*Also in IQaudios pdf* i can that they explain analogue better it's
simply a switch between 1.0 vrms and 2.0 vmrms output . Same in *Texas
instruments pdf of the DAC* chip
They claim that both analogue and analogue boost shall be on and that
digital is the master volume ?
The "boost" is not on per default inPicore ? I'll trust their judgement
here .

Reagarding PiCore players advanced squeezelite/alsa options

So the Alsa volume field or various with -V gives me hardware volume .
Can i use the various settings field to gain access to other settings
like the DSP filters ? the DAC has 4 of them ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread MartinK

DJanGo wrote: 
> Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was released @ 13.10.2016 your*- forever
> -*seems not long ago?
> 
> port 9000 is used from the webfrontend not from telnet.
> 
> 
> ok thats a pretty strange idea - i would not recommend that...
> 
> I would say - your system has some nice -addons- / -hacks- and its worth
> to start from scratch without doing such cool things:o
> 
> lms runs fine if the operating system is fine.



Sure. Let me clarify >>

But port 9000 should still be accessible right? When it says refused
connection there is something not OK. Regardless of whether you can
telnet into that port or not. 

I upgraded gradually from years back and now I'm on 16.10. Maybe i
dragged something along. ??

Renaming logitechmediaserver in init.d was meant to prevent automatic
start at boot and allow for manual start to make sure the network was up
and running without deleting the original file. I have no idea where the
startup script came from. My idea was that LMS installation puts it
there. Can't remember I ever put it there. 

Apart from that there have been absolutely no hacks on the system.
Besides there are no errors in the logs whatsoever



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread atrocity

AngloCuencano wrote: 
> I've had some strange behaviour with screen rotation with my Pi 2B. On
> first boot the display is upside down. Select 'rotate screen' and reboot
> - still upside down. Select normal rotation and reboot - everything is
> fine and continues to be with further reboots. Makes no sense to me.

Wow, you're right! I gave it a try this morning. Initial bootup text and
piCorePlayer splash screen were still inverted, then suddenly I saw a
right side up clock. Thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread ziegelstein

paul- wrote: 
> 
> If you are testing from command line, you need to sudo to get permission
> for audio.Once you get it figured out, then you can put it in User
> command section of the tweaks web page.  The user commands in the web
> interface will run with root permissions by default.

Update: 
1. when i stop the actual squeezelite instance
2. i can start several new instanzes in terminal with:

Code:

sudo /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n "Küche" -o Küche -a 80:::0:  -m 
ab:cd:ef:12:34:60 -z



Code:

sudo /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n "EG_Diele" -o Diele -a 80:::0:  -m 
ab:cd:ef:12:34:61 -z


3. Backup via:

Code:

sudo filetool.sh -b



But: 
after reboot all instances are lost.
I also tried to work with "User command section of the tweaks web page"
--> instances were lost too after reboot.

So it seems to me that there is a need for a startupscribt update - but
for me as a "NOOB" :o not possible without help.

so please - is there anybody out there?

regards,
S



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread DJanGo

MartinK wrote: 
> i've recently updated my old LMS installation to 7.9 on my ubuntu server
> (16.10) which i've had forever.

Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was released @ 13.10.2016 your*- forever
-*seems not long ago?

> But still telneting into port 9000 shows connection refused port 9000 is used 
> from the webfrontend not from telnet.


> renamed the startup script in init.d ok thats a pretty strange idea - i would 
> not recommend that...

I would say - your system has some nice -addons- / -hacks- and its worth
to start from scratch without doing such cool things:o

lms runs fine if the operating system is fine.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

2017-01-24 Thread tcutting

AngloCuencano wrote: 
> I've had some strange behaviour with screen rotation with my Pi 2B. On
> first boot the display is upside down. Select 'rotate screen' and reboot
> - still upside down. Select normal rotation and reboot - everything is
> fine and continues to be with further reboots. Makes no sense to me.

I recall having the same process occur... screen was upside-down,
changed configuration and was still upside down, changed back, and it
was correct!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread MartinK

drmatt wrote: 
> (I believe LMS_safe is the parent script that kicks off the main
> daemons. It's what you might see in the process table if LMS main thread
> fails to start. I've seen this a few times when I was fighting Perl
> version mismatches.. :) )

Perl on my system (ubuntu64 16.10)

This is perl 5, version 22, subversion 2 (v5.22.2) built for
x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
(with 67 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)

Copyright 1987-2015, Larry Wall



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread MartinK

Sorry for not being more specific. 

The system is intel based D510MO board with 2 x1TB disks. LVM
configuration. There are no errors in the system logs.  

LMS_safe = 'logitechmediaserver' plus the '_safe' suffix. Which
apparently is needed to reconnect to mysql if I correctly understood the
code in the startup script (the one that goes into init.d). Hence my
suspicion that the original server had crashed. But since there is no
log file I can't tell for sure. 

I can see LMS is running because it shows in htop and after doing a full
apt-get purge i see the scanner is running and the data base is being
populated. (so i guess the link to mysql is working).

Not sure about the network though, but I have temporarily renamed the
startup script in init.d and started LMS manually, alas to no avail.
Although starting manually shows a normal version of the server (without
the _safe). But still telneting into port 9000 shows connection refused.
(9090, 3483s). There is nothing else beside the LMS running on the
server except for samba sharing the media directory to my windows
machine. Which is no longer connected. And also Webmin is running off
port 1. Which by the way is working. (there is no firewall or
iptables settings ).

Maybe the problem is related to the fact the the overall system
configuration dates back to an old 11.04 version that has gradually been
upgraded. Although everything else seems to be working and I don't have
any errors in the log and there is no /var/log/squeezebox.log or
similar. 

Doing a complete reinstall over an existing installation picks up all
the data and gives a system running perfectly normal - until I
reboot



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread drmatt

(I believe LMS_safe is the parent script that kicks off the main
daemons. It's what you might see in the process table if LMS main thread
fails to start. I've seen this a few times when I was fighting Perl
version mismatches.. :) )



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread Michael Herger

everything !! However, when I reboot LMS comes up as LMS_safe and I can


What is this LMS_safe?


no longer connect to port 9000. Although, the server appears to be
running. There is no firewall and I can ping the outside world in all


How do you find out about the server being active?


directions. I have tried this several times, deleting and purging LMS,
deleting the startup script in init.d, deleting the user and group
settings everything. Again, after a fresh install everything works until
i reboot.


Tell us a little more about your system: what platform, what network 
etc. It might be LMS is being started before the network was ready? I 
think somebody mentioned somewhere adding a dependency on the network 
(somehow, don't remember the details).


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[SlimDevices: Unix] Can't connect to LMS after reboot

2017-01-24 Thread MartinK

i've recently updated my old LMS installation to 7.9 on my ubuntu server
(16.10) which i've had forever. After doing the installation everything
works perfectly - music found, prefs found, player found, scan perfect,
everything !! However, when I reboot LMS comes up as LMS_safe and I can
no longer connect to port 9000. Although, the server appears to be
running. There is no firewall and I can ping the outside world in all
directions. I have tried this several times, deleting and purging LMS,
deleting the startup script in init.d, deleting the user and group
settings everything. Again, after a fresh install everything works until
i reboot. Strangely I don't find a log file under /var/logs/ and I have
2 instances of Squeezeboxserver running - one normal one _safe. It
almost seems like LMS is crashing immediately and restarting. Shurely
that's not right?

I remember from long ago there used to be a page with a detailed
installation guide and how to setup init.d and all the rest (including
iptables and Sqlite) I wonder where all that has gone?



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