Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] radios disappeared

2017-06-13 Thread Mnyb

Where is LMS running ? Sounds like it lost connection to
mysqueezebox.com or encountered a DNS problem at startup.




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Misc use: Radio (with battery)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread Mnyb

s2kiwi wrote: 
> So the bit I didn't mention is one channel seems to have blown on the
> SB3 (and I don't have the skills to diagnose/replace what I assume will
> be a dodgy cap) so I was limited where in the house I could use it
> anyway (as it'll have to be mono only).

Yes that's the cap problem there are treads with pictures .
It has digital outs these will be unaffected by this problem that only
affects the analog out. Is there a zone where something should hook up
to a HT reciever or DAC .

If you retire it sell it as spare parts on this forum , someone would
probably pick it up and repair it.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] info on file in "now playing"

2017-06-13 Thread kidstypike

steff wrote: 
> is it possible to display the basic information (bit depth, sample rate,
> bitrate, etc.) in the "now playing" screen ?

Where? Web gui? Info is already there.

Need more? Just click on the track title.

22898


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[SlimDevices: Unix] info on file in "now playing"

2017-06-13 Thread steff

is it possible to display the basic information (bit depth, sample rate,
bitrate, etc.) in the "now playing" screen ?



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[SlimDevices: Unix] radios disappeared

2017-06-13 Thread steff

when I setup the very first time my piCorePlayer on Rpi3, the "internet
radio" folder was full of channel to list at.
Now they are gone! it is totally empty.

Why?
Any idea?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread pippin

Oh, ok, now THAT is a reason to retire it, indeed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread s2kiwi

pippin wrote: 
> Really, don't . All of this is not a problem and the SB3 is a really
> nice player. Very reliable ne good sound.

So the bit I didn't mention is one channel seems to have blown on the
SB3 (and I don't have the skills to diagnose/replace what I assume will
be a dodgy cap) so I was limited where in the house I could use it
anyway (as it'll have to be mono only).



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread pippin

Really, don't . All of this is not a problem and the SB3 is a really
nice player. Very reliable ne good sound.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Cheap Pi DAC option

2017-06-13 Thread s2kiwi

Sorry Mods - I meant to post this in the 3rd party hardware section.
Please feel free to move.



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[SlimDevices: Unix] Cheap Pi DAC option

2017-06-13 Thread s2kiwi

Hi all,

I'm not sure what hardware others are using, but in case anyone has been
looking for cheap options for new player setups I thought i'd share a
nice cheap option I've been using with good results.

I've been using on a raspberry pi with a cheap DAC from Aliexpress
($6.50 USD)
'Raspberry-Pi-pHAT-Sound-Card-I2S-interface-PCM5102-DAC-Module-24-bit-Audio-Board-With-Stereo'
(https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-Pi-pHAT-Sound-Card-I2S-interface-PCM5102-DAC-Module-24-bit-Audio-Board-With-Stereo/32742608325.html)

The DAC's not plug and play on a raspberry pi, however I found the pin
info I needed 'here'
(https://listok65blog.wordpress.com/dac-pcm5102-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BA%D0%BB%D1%8E%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%B2-raspberry-pi/)
(listed below for reference in case that site disappears at some point).
Once it's connected to the right pins you can treat it like a basic
HiFiBerry DAC (it's the same chip) in things like PiCorePlayer

All in all once set up, I've been really impressed with the sound
quality - it's much better than I expected for the price and more than
good enough for my general around the house listening. There is no
niceties like onboard volume control etc, but LMS handles this anyway
for me so it's not a problem.

If you already have a Pi, it's a significant improvement in sound
quality for a bargain price.



Pins for Raspberry Pi B

DAC RPI PIN P
Vcc 5v  1   P2
3.3v3.3v2   P2
GND gnd 6   P1
FLT gnd 7   P2
DMP gnd 8   P2
SCL SCL 5   P1
BCK BCK 3   P2
DIN Data6   P2
LCK LCK 4   P2
FMT gng 14  P1
XMT 3.3v1   P1




Pins for Raspberry Pi B+ /2B/3B

DAC RPI PIN
Vcc 5v  2
3.3v3.3v1
GND gnd 39
FLT gnd 14
DMP gnd 20
SCL SCL 5
BCK BCK 12
DIN Data40
LCK LCK 35
FMT gnd 30
XMT 3.3v17

(Also make sure the that DIN, LCK, BCK wires are kept as short as
possible., to avoid audio degradation)

I haven't tried the below, but I did find this comment about setting up
on an Orange Pi if anyone uses those.
-Works well with Orange PI PC. Power it with 5v (VCC pad) keep 3v3 pad
unconnected. (Board has an regulator which powers the 5102 . The chip
logic is 3v3 tie XMT to gnd and FMT to 3v3 (for i2s) Use the 3 wire
interface (leave SCL unconnected) DIN -> PA20 LCK -> PA18 BCK -> PA19-



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread s2kiwi

Given all the various feedback, I think I'm just going to retire the SB3
out of the mix entirely. 

For the sake a Pi Zero + DAC I think it'll just make everything simpler
to be running on similar hardware :)

Thanks guys!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread Julf

drmatt wrote: 
> I was looking forward to having a separate 5ghz WiFi at home, then I
> noticed it doesn't go through walls as well as 2.4ghz... and now I find
> i actually don't use it much..

I agree, it doesn't go through walls as well, but when you have 35
neighboring networks, you still appreciate 5 GHz...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

I was looking forward to having a separate 5ghz WiFi at home, then I
noticed it doesn't go through walls as well as 2.4ghz... and now I find
i actually don't use it much..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCoreplayer+Jivelite Sound Issue

2017-06-13 Thread sbp

Glad to hear that you tried overclocking and it solved the problem.
I don't think turbo mode will affect lifetime - I have used it for years
on one of my RPi's and haven't seen any issue.

When we release a new version you could try to remove the overclock
settings as there might be improvements in the kernel that could resolve
your issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread Julf

drmatt wrote: 
> Well that's on the assumption that all the Pi are wired.

Or on a 5 GHz wireless network.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce piCorePlayer 3.20

2017-06-13 Thread streampunk

Good afternoon,
as I find it sometimes unpractical having to fetch a tablet or a
smartphone, launch an app etc. only to mute music playing on my PCP, I
bought a cheap 2,4GHz remote said to work with "linux"
(https://www.amazon.de/GeneralKeys-Funk-Air-Maus-Fernbedienung-Windows-Android/dp/B00H4XSPC6/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8=1=A3TVDIAOCYO59D).
I plugged the small USB receiver into my Raspi running PCP 3.20 and
jivelite, equipped with the orgininal Raspberry Touchscreen - and after
rebooting the remote worked perfectly, controlling not only volume, mute
and title skipping, but also backward/forward in the jivelite screens
etc.

When trying the same with my other (headless) Raspberry, also running
PCP 3.20, the remote won't work. I tried installing jivelite because I
thought that the remote drivers might come with jivelite, but no
success.

Hence my question to those who know the guts of PCP: Is it possible that
the remote drivers are only installed / activated if there is a
(touch)screen connected to the Raspi? The only other difference between
the two systems is that the headless one has a pHAT DAC, while the
touchscreen one has a cheap USB soundcard.

Thanks in advance for helping
Martin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer: Audio-Output => Bluetooth-Speaker

2017-06-13 Thread Relwell

I plugged in a Creative BT-W2 USB dongle and it  shows up as a USB Audio
device, paired it to my Senn HD 4.50 BTC headphones, works a treat.  The
BT paring is handled in hardware.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

Well that's on the assumption that all the Pi are wired. Maybe I missed
that statement. The LMS server would be sending 9 times that stream out,
which still isn't much in reality I agree, about 7 Mbit/s.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread pippin

But if the SB3 is alone on its 2.4GHz network, where's the problem?
Still enough bandwidth to stream HD video so why not 48kHz FLAC?

We are talking about 750kbit/s here. If you don't get that out of a WiFi
network then it's so broken that even the control connection will
probably no longer be stable.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

Lame encoding a single stream for a single group of players will run
fine on a Pi. If you want separate streams all separately encoded then
you might run into trouble. I might suggest setting a bandwidth limit on
the SB3 to force stepping down the bitrate when it joins the group. Then
unsync that one and LMS will drop back to sending flac everywhere.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread pippin

Don't do that. FLAC is fine and you've got enough bandwidth unless you
do crazy stuff like streaming 384kHz sample rate material and such.
Transcoding to MP3 takes a lot of CPU power and will likely create more
issues than it solves.
FLAC is perfect for streaming.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread s2kiwi

Brilliant thanks DrMatt, I appreciate the help. 

The reality is that while FLAC is total overkill for 7 or the 8 zones,
it is how my music is stored. Part of why I'm trying to get my head
around this is so I know what will happen under different scenarios. 

Based on this, if I place the SB3 to drive the hallway, it'll only be
used when lots of the house is also being used and we are on the go...
It'll then force transcoding and significantly reduce the bandwidth
needed across the house when lots of players are running. 

Then when the kids go to bed and the hall/bedrooms/outside are off I can
sit in the lounge and listen to FLAC on the proper system. 

I was going to use the cheaper DAC on a pi to trigger the transcoding,
but now I know that won't work :) 

Sound like a plan?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

2017-06-13 Thread drmatt

s2kiwi wrote: 
> I'm not sure I understand that comment on the software stack vs
> hardware...
> 
> Do you meant that (ignoring the SB3) running Squeezelite on the Pi's
> means they will all appear to the server as being able to handle
> basically anything... and the Pi will handle any codec downgrading
> needed? Meaning all the other PI's will still play at the better
> quality?
> 
> Or will they present the soundcard limitation back to the server and
> it'll downgrade everything.
> 
> (sorry for the n00b Q's)
Ok fair question. To provide more details;

- the software (squeezelite) is the same on all the Pis so they all
offer the same file formats natively supported.
- the different hardware DACs only restricts the maximum sample rate and
bits-per-sample. I.e. 96khz/24bit. All will be more than capable of
playing CD audio uncompressed (44k/16b).

So when you sync them all LMS will find the lowest common denominator
of:
- the source file or stream's format, resolution and bitrate
- each player's supported format, resolution and bitrate.

The default is for LMS to provide the raw source to all players
unmodified, assuming that all players have told it they can play that
format, resolution and bitrate. End points won't do resampling or
transcoding, LMS will produce ONE stream for the whole group in whatever
format, resolution and bitrate drops out of the above process.

As I said, the wildcard is the SB3. Does it support MP3 or flac? I don't
remember. If not you may find LMS being forced to stream full rate PCM
audio to all players at the same time. You can do the maths on that!

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