date:20110115

Hello,
I have uploaded a *very plain* sample stack that has little more than
a menu and About box pointing to a substack, that you should be able
to use as a rough guide:
http://www.docstoolchest.com/catch_all/TestMenu.rev

Hope that is what you are looking for,
David C.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:37 AM, bacches...@tin.it bacches...@tin.it wrote:




 Messaggio originale
 Da: jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 Data: 14-gen-2011 21.00
 A: How to use LiveCodeuse-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Ogg: Re: a help ..

 On 1/14/11 11:38 AM, bacches...@tin.it wrote:
 i am at the beginning... p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;
 font: 12.0px Helvetica} p.p2 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font:
 12.0px Helvetica; min-height: 14.0px} p.p3 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px
 0.0px; font: 12.0px Arial} p.p4 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;
 font: 12.0px Arial; min-height: 14.0px} span.s1 {font: 12.0px Arial}



 i would like to manage the About This Application menu item I
 tried to do somthing with Menu builder,  but in a StandAlone
 appllication nothing goes as i would


 If  somebody may give me indications i'll be infinitely grateful to
 him

 Can you explain more about what you want to do? I don't understand why
 you have css, or how css should apply to an About box.

 Your About box should be a substack of the main app stack. Place text
 fields, images, or other controls in it. Then show that stack when a
 user chooses About from the application menu.

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 the question is  how realize that an user chooses About from the 
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Re: usb driver problem

2011-01-15 Thread Thomas McGrath III

I now keep getting file is not open for read on the cu.usbmodem1a21 and eof 
on the tty.usbmodem1a21

What am I missing here? 


-- Tom McGrath III
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3mcgr...@comcast.net

On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

 I am having trouble accessing an Arduino Uno attached to my computer via USB.
 
 The device driver shows up as /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21
 
 I tried a simple open driver then read from driver then close driver. But 
 Livecode keeps crashing or worse my computer panics and dies.
 
 on mouseUp
put  into field IOresult
open driver /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21 for binary read // tried text read, 
 text update, binary update
wait 50
read from driver /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21 for 1 line in 4 second // tried 
 for 3 char in 3 seconds, tried until eof
if it is not  then
put it:it into field IOresult 
else
put result:   the result into field IOresult
end if
wait 50
close driver /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21
 end mouseUp
 
 I just want to read data that is being sent from the board. In Arduino there 
 is a serial monitor which does read the data coming from the board. It is a 
 bunch of numbers one per line as in 1023  then 992  then 992 etc.
 
 I can't seem to figure out what I am doing wrong. This seems pretty straight 
 forward.
 
 I sent an email to Mark Weider but then thought that others might also have 
 ideas.
 
 Thanks
 
 
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 http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
 3mcgr...@comcast.net
 
 
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Re: No Check Box in the Dictionary??

2011-01-15 Thread Peter Haworth


This thread reminds me so much of going through all the same questions when I 
first started using LC.  Seems like  a document that listed all these little 
idiosyncracies of LC, specifically targeted at newbies, would be extremely 
useful.  Maybe one already exists somewhere?

One thing I'd add to Calvin's list of gotchas is to realise that you cannot 
permanently store data in a stack in a standalone program.  Lots of recommended 
workarounds of course but this is something you don't typically find out about 
until well down the development path (at least I didn't) because it's not a 
problem when working in the IDE,  and it can mean fairly major changes to your 
application.

Pete Haworth

On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 Calvin Waterbury wrote:
 
 I don't mean to be picky, but neither checkbox nor check box is in
 the dictionary.  If I missed something, please tell me?
 
 By default the IDE is set to what an occasionally-rude person like myself 
 might call Lie Mode, in which the names it displays in the Property 
 Inspectors aren't the actual English-like tokens used in the language 
 itself, but presumably some more-English-like-than-English-like label that 
 attempts to be more descriptive.
 
 My personal problem with that is that I find it slows rather than smooths the 
 experience of getting started with the tool, since using the GUI is a much 
 smaller part of the experience than coding, and for coding you need to know 
 the actual token.
 
 As Phil noted that's a button style, so you can turn it up in the Dictionary 
 entry for style.
 
 
 Two tips to shorten the distance between Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? and Ah, I 
 get it going forward:
 
 1. In LC's Preferences window, at the top of the first pane is an option 
 labeled Property labels are: with the default setting of Description of 
 option.  If you change that to Name of LiveTalk property you'll pick up 
 the language just a little faster, since the GUI will then reflect the tokens 
 you'll be using in your scripts.
 
 2. Those coming from a background in VB, ToolBook, or a good many other IDEs 
 are accustomed to finding a property sheet tool, which lists all of the 
 properties for a selected object and allows a means of editing them.  The 
 Property Inspector does a fine job of providing convenient ways to edit a 
 subset of these, but for learning the language it can be very helpful to see 
 a list of all of them.
 
 Got you covered there:
 
 4W Props is a simple property sheet tool for LiveCode, available through the 
 Stacks section in RevNet - in the IDE see:
 
  Development-Plugins-GoRevNet
 
 HTH -
 
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 LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com
 Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com
 LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv
 
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problem importing tab delimited text files

2011-01-15 Thread Ian McKnight

Hi all

I have a table of data in an excel spreadsheet.40 rows x 30 columns approx.
I save the file as a tab delimited text file for import into LC.
I import the file and its empty - nothing there in LC.
I open the text file in Notepad and save it again, making no changes.
I import the same file into LC again and all the data is where it should be.

My question is what could be preventing LC from importing an 'Excel' text
file (or perhaps failing to detect the information it contains) since there
are no errors generated.

I thought that this problem was an aberration on my part but no it has
reappeared this evening.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Using LC 4.5.1 on Win 7



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Re: How to uninstall Livecode from a Linux system

Glen-

Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:07:45 PM, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 Are there standard steps in properly uninstalling Livecode for a Linux
 system (I'm using Fedora 13).

 I know I can delete files but I would like the menu to not show  Livecode if
 it is not installed.

I'm not in front of my Fedora system at the moment, but from memory if
you navigate into the folder where it's installed (if you opted for
all users it's in /opt/runrev) you'll find an executable program
that is not livecode. Run that from a commandline with an argument of
/uninstall. That *should* uninstall it, including the menu item.
And, of course, you'll need to su to do this.

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Re: How to uninstall Livecode from a Linux system

2011-01-15 Thread Glen Bojsza

Great... thanks.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Glen-

 Saturday, January 15, 2011, 2:07:45 PM, you wrote:

  Hello everyone,

  Are there standard steps in properly uninstalling Livecode for a Linux
  system (I'm using Fedora 13).

  I know I can delete files but I would like the menu to not show  Livecode
 if
  it is not installed.

 I'm not in front of my Fedora system at the moment, but from memory if
 you navigate into the folder where it's installed (if you opted for
 all users it's in /opt/runrev) you'll find an executable program
 that is not livecode. Run that from a commandline with an argument of
 /uninstall. That *should* uninstall it, including the menu item.
 And, of course, you'll need to su to do this.

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Re: problem importing tab delimited text files

2011-01-15 Thread Ian McKnight

Thanks for the advice David. I went back and checked. As I still had the
text file open in Excel when I was trying to import it into LC the file must
have been locked in some way by Excel - as soon as I closed the file in XL
it worked perfectly. Makes perfect sense really.

I think I'll start writing down my gaffs down in a notebook to try and save
time in future :)

Thanks again.

On 15 January 2011 22:53, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Ian McKnight iangmckni...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I have a table of data in an excel spreadsheet.40 rows x 30 columns
 approx.
  I save the file as a tab delimited text file for import into LC.
  I import the file and its empty - nothing there in LC.
  I open the text file in Notepad and save it again, making no changes.
  I import the same file into LC again and all the data is where it should
 be.
 
  My question is what could be preventing LC from importing an 'Excel' text
  file (or perhaps failing to detect the information it contains) since
 there
  are no errors generated.
 
  I thought that this problem was an aberration on my part but no it has
  reappeared this evening.
 
  Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Using LC 4.5.1 on Win 7
 
 
 
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 Hello Ian,
 I use tab delimited files from excel all the time without any
 difficulties... same exact platform and LC version.

 Based on your description, I'd try to open just a simple text file
 without tabs, just to verify that the intended file is being opened
 successfully. (Been there, done that, more than once)

 Also, make sure to set the itemdelimiter to tab. (Been there, done that
 also)

 It has always been solid as a rock for me on this end and I cannot
 imagine any other scenario where it would fail.

 Best regards,
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Setting visibility on start up


Hi,

I need some guidance of the LC parlance when making objects 
visible/invisible on start up.  I've tried some experiments, but nothing 
works.


FYI - for anyone that is interested, I *really* learned a lot from Mark's
presentation/chat (I couldn't get good video consistently on David's).  
A number of things congealed in my mind.  I'm still scraping around on 
some of the syntax particulars, but what I am coding is working great 
for pseudocode until I figure out the real syntax. :)


Standing by...
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Re: Setting visibility on start up

 Hi,

 I need some guidance of the LC parlance when making objects
 visible/invisible on start up.  I've tried some experiments, but nothing
 works.

 FYI - for anyone that is interested, I *really* learned a lot from Mark's
 presentation/chat (I couldn't get good video consistently on David's).  A
 number of things congealed in my mind.  I'm still scraping around on some of
 the syntax particulars, but what I am coding is working great for
 pseudocode until I figure out the real syntax. :)

 Standing by...
 Calvin


Hey Calvin,
Try this: set the visible of object ObjectName to true/false
As in...

set the visible of button YourButton to true
set the visible of field MyField to true
-or-
set the visible of button YourButton to false
set the visible of field MyField to false

..where button/field can be any object selected on your card

Best regards,
David C.

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Re: Setting visibility on start up

Calvin-

Saturday, January 15, 2011, 4:13:48 PM, you wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 I was referring to standalone, but I got a bonus on this one! ;)

g part of the bonus is that the startup and preopenstack are both
sent before the stack is visible, so you don't have to worry about any
flashing on the screen while you're making changes. OTOH you do have
to worry about some libraries not having been loaded yet, so there are
some things you can't do in those handlers and should be deferred.
YMMV.

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Line Hint


Hi,

I can find nothing in the dictionary nor the user guide... what exactly 
is a line hint?


Thanks,
Calvin

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Re: usb driver problem

Tom-

Saturday, January 15, 2011, 8:18:26 AM, you wrote:

 I am having trouble accessing an Arduino Uno attached to my computer via USB.

I haven't looked at the Arduino since they changed the chipset, but it
*should* be straightforward. I realize that's no help, and crashing LC
is something that shouldn't happen. Is there a crashlog?

I helped fund this project on kickstarter, and I'm watching it
eagerly, waiting for the boards to be ready:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bushing/openvizsla-open-source-usb-protocol-analyzer

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Re: Line Hint

 Hi,

 I can find nothing in the dictionary nor the user guide... what exactly is a
 line hint?

 Thanks,
 Calvin



Calvin,
Not sure that I understand. are you asking about toolTips that
are display when you hover over an object of some type?


Best regards,
David C.

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Re: Line Hint


Hi David C.,

Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.  It 
says on the left side of that dialog...


Type
Object
Line
Hint

I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything else?

Thanks,
Calvin




David C. mailto:davidoco...@gmail.com
Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:32 PM




Calvin,
Not sure that I understand. are you asking about toolTips that
are display when you hover over an object of some type?


Best regards,
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Calvin Waterbury mailto:c...@eml.cc
Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:24 PM


Hi,

I can find nothing in the dictionary nor the user guide... what 
exactly is a line hint?


Thanks,
Calvin


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Re: Line Hint

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Calvin Waterbury c...@eml.cc wrote:
 Hi David C.,

 Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.  It says
 on the left side of that dialog...

 Type
 Object
 Line
 Hint

 I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything else?

 Thanks,
 Calvin

I guess you've lost me in this case... maybe one of the guru's will
chime in with words of wisdom. Sorry.

Best regards,
David C.

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Re: Line Hint

2011-01-15 Thread Jeffrey Massung



On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:41 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote:

 Hi David C.,
 
 Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.  It says on 
 the left side of that dialog...
 
 Type
 Object
 Line
 Hint
 
 I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything else?


Well, line hint isn't really accurate, because aren't they two separate 
items? So line would be the line # the error occurred on and hint would be 
something like Field 'hoohaw' doesn't exist, right?

I haven't done hardly anything with error decoding in LC, but that would make 
sense to me.

Jeff M.
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Re: Line Hint


We have a winner!

Boy! do I feel like a schmolez!

Thanks for the clarification, Jeff.
Calvin




Jeffrey Massung mailto:mass...@gmail.com
Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:12 PM





Well, line hint isn't really accurate, because aren't they two 
separate items? So line would be the line # the error occurred on 
and hint would be something like Field 'hoohaw' doesn't exist, right?


I haven't done hardly anything with error decoding in LC, but that 
would make sense to me.


Jeff M.
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Calvin Waterbury mailto:c...@eml.cc
Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:41 PM


Hi David C.,

Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.  It 
says on the left side of that dialog...


Type
Object
Line
Hint

I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything else?

Thanks,
Calvin



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Open Source Licenses (yet again)

All-

I notice that Adobe/O'Reilly posts Actionscript snippets using the
Creative Commons 3.0 license:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

example (which btw is an easy example showing how to use OAuth to
access foursquare.com data):
http://cookbooks.adobe.com/post_Accessing_a_OAuth_secured_API_via_Flash_Actionscri-18036.html

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Re: Layers, revNavigator, DataGrids

2011-01-15 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev

I'm looking at it now...

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Chipp Walters wrote:

  AltLayerTools
 http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev
 It keeps you from moving objects in and out of groups. It only move groups
 around.

 just put in msg box:
 go URL http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altLayerTools.rev;
 then save to plugins. I use with my toolbar palette.

 here's another which is most helpful:
 AltGroupMgr
 http://www.gadgetplugins.com/altplugins/altGroupMgr.txt

 It does a great job of placing and removing groups on different cards.

 Both use ZERO frontscripts in favor of a 'refresh button,' mostly for
 robustness and lack of conflict with some of my other frontscripts. I
 really
 need to create a single frontscript library which manages everything.
 C'est
 la vie.


 But no replacement for the really great ability that revNavigator used to
 have, of moving a control (or a group) in or out of a group? That's what I
 miss!

 Geoff Canyon, can you convince that developer of yours to do something
 about this...?  :-)


 -- Peter

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Re: Setting visibility on start up

2011-01-15 Thread william humphrey

preOpenStack works in both the IDE and in a standalone while on startup
only works when compiled to a standalone? That's good to know.  I wonder why
any one would use startup?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 on startup
  -- the startup message is only sent to standalone apps
  -- make some things invisible
  -- set the visible of someObject to false
  -- set the visible of group lotsOfObjects to false
 end startup

 on preOpenStack
  -- this one works in the IDE
  -- make some things invisible
 end preOpenStack




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Re: Line Hint

2011-01-15 Thread Jim Ault


Try creating know errors, then observe the error reporting.
Start with small scripts, misspell, mis-reference, etc to get a feel  
for this.


On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote:


We have a winner!

Boy! do I feel like a schmolez!

Thanks for the clarification, Jeff.
Calvin



Jeffrey Massung mailto:mass...@gmail.com
Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:12 PM

Well, line hint isn't really accurate, because aren't they two  
separate items? So line would be the line # the error occurred on  
and hint would be something like Field 'hoohaw' doesn't exist,  
right?


I haven't done hardly anything with error decoding in LC, but that  
would make sense to me.


Jeff M.

Calvin Waterbury mailto:c...@eml.cc
Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:41 PM


Hi David C.,

Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.   
It says on the left side of that dialog...


Type
Object
Line
Hint

I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything  
else?


Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: Line Hint

Hi Jim,

I did this somewhat, but the idea of matching errors with error messages is 
certainly wise.  

Thank you,
Calvin
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Subject: Re: Line Hint

Try creating know errors, then observe the error reporting.
Start with small scripts, misspell, mis-reference, etc to get a feel  
for this.

On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Calvin Waterbury wrote:

 We have a winner!

 Boy! do I feel like a schmolez!

 Thanks for the clarification, Jeff.
 Calvin


  Jeffrey Massung mailto:mass...@gmail.com
 Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:12 PM

 Well, line hint isn't really accurate, because aren't they two  
 separate items? So line would be the line # the error occurred on  
 and hint would be something like Field 'hoohaw' doesn't exist,  
 right?

 I haven't done hardly anything with error decoding in LC, but that  
 would make sense to me.

 Jeff M.

  Calvin Waterbury mailto:c...@eml.cc
 Saturday, January 15, 2011 6:41 PM


 Hi David C.,

 Nope.  I'm referring to the Errors window when something flubs.   
 It says on the left side of that dialog...

 Type
 Object
 Line
 Hint

 I know this is an error message, but does line hint mean anything  
 else?

Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: Setting visibility on start up

william-

Saturday, January 15, 2011, 6:33:19 PM, you wrote:

 preOpenStack works in both the IDE and in a standalone while on startup
 only works when compiled to a standalone? That's good to know.  I wonder why
 any one would use startup?

I parse commandline arguments there for a standalone. It's also useful
for loading libraries that the IDE would normally already have loaded
for you.

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Re: different screen resolutions (iOS)

2011-01-15 Thread Harald Müller

There were many articles and speculations. The last one:
http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/15/ipad-2-screen-likely-to-have-2048x1536-resolution/

(As the dreamer that I am I would love it when the engine could blow up a
normal card to the
double size and would search for corresponding @2x graphics for every
referenced image.)

Am 15.01.2011 um 15:15 schrieb Colin Holgate:

On Jan 15, 2011, at 6:13 AM, Harald Müller wrote:

Can you point to the specifications page, where they say that the resolution
is different? This article here:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/new-in-ios-4.3-the-full-breakdown-with-screenshots/

looks at the various art inside iOS 4.3, and that art suggests that the new
iPad would be the same resolution as the current one.

About your overall point of dealing with different screen sizes, there are a
few difficulties. With Flash I do use the kind of approach you're suggesting,
where my single sized iPhone stage gets scaled up to fill the iPad screen,
but there are a good amount of hoops I have to jump through to make sure that
the quality remains good.

The larger screen size isn't as big a problem as the different aspect ratios.
In Flash I get away with it by having extra content above and below the
stage, and when it's blown up to fill the iPad, that extra content becomes
visible. With LC, so far at least, the content seems to be aligned top left.
That could work out ok, if you have bitmap versions of the different size
backgrounds you could jump to the card that has the corresponding sized art,
and button layout, etc. With that way of working you could take care of
480x320, 1024x768, and the other device sizes of 800x480 and 1024x600. Any
time you learn about a new screen size that you want to support you would
need to make a card, or cards, that are laid out for that new size. Or you
might be able to do a lot of the work using code.

Re: usb driver problem

2011-01-15 Thread J. Landman Gay


On 1/15/11 10:54 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

I now keep getting file is not open for read on the cu.usbmodem1a21
and eof on the tty.usbmodem1a21

What am I missing here?


-- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net

On Jan 15, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote:


I am having trouble accessing an Arduino Uno attached to my
computer via USB.

The device driver shows up as /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21

I tried a simple open driver then read from driver then close
driver. But Livecode keeps crashing or worse my computer panics and
dies.


This came up in the support queue. Basically open driver is only for 
(real) serial devices. To open a usb device that is posing as a serial 
device (i.e., you have a usb/serial port adapter) then you should use 
open file instead. Treat the port just as you would a regular file.


There's no USB support per se, so if the device doesn't present itself 
as a serial port device it won't work.


The path you use when you open a serial port as a file is the same one 
you'd use in shell -- use the /dev/tty.usbmodem1a21 path you 
mentioned. Also, see if you can talk to it in shell just as a test.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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