Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Pete]

OK, OK.  How about Ricotta?  It's not ch***e.
Pete
Molly's Revenge 




On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Paul Looney  wrote:

> Help! Heather?
> Time, again, to ban imports of cheese.
> Paul Looney
>
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
> > richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses!
> >>>
> >>
> >> A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas
> here
> >> in Bulgaria.
> >
> >
> > try getting french cheese here in Brazil. It will cost you a kidney and
> an
> > arm. Dutch cheese, no way!
> >
> > Heck, I almost cried when I found cheddar, real cheddar, here for the
> first
> > time in 15 years. Brazilians think that cheddar is that processed stuff
> that
> > macdonalds puts on sandwich. It gets worse, people here sell something
> > called "Dressing type cheddar" (I am not joking) which is not really made
> of
> > milk but of something that is grown and is not eaten by a cow.
> >
> > but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> --
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Mark Schonewille
> >>> Economy-x-Talk
> >>> Http://economy-x-talk.com
> >>>
> >>> Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with
> Clipboard
> >>> Link http://clipboardlink.economy-**x-talk.com<
> http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micout numericable.com>
> >>> het volgende geschreven:
> >>>
> >>> YES
>  and...
>  le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le
>  Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le
> Bleu
>  d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le
>  Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon,
> le
>  Petit René... and so on>  http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
>  Liste_de_fromages_français<
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_fran%C3%A7ais>
> 
>  You understand now why cheese is OT ?
> 
>  ;-)
> 
>  Bon souvenir de Paris
>  et particulièrement pour Richmond !
> 
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Re: Visible lines in a scrolling field.

[Ken Ray]

On Oct 14, 2011, at 12:05 AM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

> Does anyone know how to find out what lines are currently visible in a field
> with a vertical scrollbar?

That depends… is this a list field or regular field? If a regular field, do you 
have dontWrap turned on, or not?

> More importantly can I find out just before they
> are scrolling into view so I can do some stuff to the line(s) just before/as
> they become visible?

Well, you can trap the scrollBarDrag of the field and do something based on its 
value, but you'd have to be fast...

> If I process all the lines (say for 2-3 hundred) it
> take waayyy too long for it to finish and the vertical scrollbar motion or
> highlighting 1 line will not happen until the entire list is processed. I
> put some constructive waits in and it reduces the problem but doesn't fix
> it.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

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Re: New Hardware old Habits

[Mark Wieder]

Cal-

Thursday, October 13, 2011, 4:34:49 PM, you wrote:

> The installation procedure didn't ask me if I wanted to make 5 the default
> version of LC it just went ahead and plunked 5 into the components folder
> and told me the job was all done.

If you're talking about associating an executable with a filetype so
that you can double-click files and have the IDE launch, you have to
remember that you're dealing with Microsoft here, and so you have to
do things backwards and use the Restore button to assign a program:

Open a Windows Explorer window to any directory
Go to the Tools folder and select Folder Options
Click on the File Types tab
Down at the bottom of the pane click the "Restore" button
(the Change button won't do anything)
Now click on Advanced (to affect all .xx files)
Click on Edit...
Click on Browse...
Navigate to the LiveCode.exe file of your choice
Click OK
Click OK again to dismiss the Edit File Type dialog
Click Close on the Folder Options dialog

Now double-click on a livecode stack

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Re: Landscape Orientation iOS LC5

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Debdoot,

That sounds like an awful arrangement. Lots of luck. Not my cup of tea.

Joe Wilkins

On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:13 PM, ddas wrote:

> Sans access to an iphone or ipad, I test on an ipod touch (3rd gen I think).
> 
> Yes i did mean iPod :-)
> 
> -Debdoot
> 
> On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:
> 
>> Did you really mean "iPod"?
>> 
>> Joe Wilkins
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM, ddas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS.
>>> 
>>> I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left.
>>> 
>>> It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left.
>>> 
>>> However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas what might be going on.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Debdoot

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Re: Visible lines in a scrolling field.

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Ralph, 

I would perform some calculations based on the textHeight and scroll of the 
field in question. You should know how many of the field's lines are displayed 
so this should give you the vertical coordinates of the field; calculate the 
rect of the top line and select that rectangle. This should highlight the line. 
It may be a bit more complex than this, but something similar should work. I'm 
not sure where you should place the handler that does all of this; probably in 
an Open Card script? I don't know enough about the situation to help you any 
more.

HTH,

Joe Wilkins

On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

> Does anyone know how to find out what lines are currently visible in a field
> with a vertical scrollbar? More importantly can I find out just before they
> are scrolling into view so I can do some stuff to the line(s) just before/as
> they become visible? If I process all the lines (say for 2-3 hundred) it
> take waayyy too long for it to finish and the vertical scrollbar motion or
> highlighting 1 line will not happen until the entire list is processed. I
> put some constructive waits in and it reduces the problem but doesn't fix
> it.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> 

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Re: Landscape Orientation iOS LC5

[ddas]

Sans access to an iphone or ipad, I test on an ipod touch (3rd gen I think).

Yes i did mean iPod :-)

-Debdoot

On Oct 14, 2011, at 1:06 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote:

> Did you really mean "iPod"?
> 
> Joe Wilkins
> Joe Lewis Wilkins
> Architect and Director of Product Development
> 760-738-1721
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM, ddas wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS.
>> 
>> I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left.
>> 
>> It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left.
>> 
>> However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod.
>> 
>> Any ideas what might be going on.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Debdoot
>> 
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Re: Landscape Orientation iOS LC5

[Joe Lewis Wilkins]

Did you really mean "iPod"?

Joe Wilkins
Joe Lewis Wilkins
Architect and Director of Product Development
760-738-1721










On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM, ddas wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS.
> 
> I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left.
> 
> It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left.
> 
> However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod.
> 
> Any ideas what might be going on.
> 
> Thanks,
> Debdoot
> 
> 
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Visible lines in a scrolling field.

[Ralph DiMola]

Does anyone know how to find out what lines are currently visible in a field
with a vertical scrollbar? More importantly can I find out just before they
are scrolling into view so I can do some stuff to the line(s) just before/as
they become visible? If I process all the lines (say for 2-3 hundred) it
take waayyy too long for it to finish and the vertical scrollbar motion or
highlighting 1 line will not happen until the entire list is processed. I
put some constructive waits in and it reduces the problem but doesn't fix
it.

Thanks

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services


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Landscape Orientation iOS LC5

[ddas]

Hi,

Has anyone noticed any anomalies with stack orientation under LC5 iOS.

I and set a stack's orientation to landscape left.

It works fine in the simulator and does start up landscape left.

However it goes to portrait when I compile and test on the iPod.

Any ideas what might be going on.

Thanks,
Debdoot


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Re: My Apps and iOS 5.0

[Colin Holgate]

With earlier versions of iOS 5, LiveCode 4.6.4 would show large blank areas, 
LiveCode 5 was a lot better. With the release versions there are at least two 
oddities. Sometimes you get little bits of black lines when you move things, 
and strangely, when the card first draws it can be blue tinted.

Not sure if it's an iOS 5.0 issue, or an LC 5.0 issue.


On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:46 PM, Randy Hengst wrote:

> I've not yet built an app using LiveCode 5.0…. will that fix the problems 
> with screen draws I'm seeing on iOS 5.0?

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My Apps and iOS 5.0

[Randy Hengst]

Hi All,

When running my apps under iOS 5.0 there are numerous screen re-draw problems… 
making the apps unusable.

I've not yet built an app using LiveCode 5.0…. will that fix the problems with 
screen draws I'm seeing on iOS 5.0?

Has anyone else seen this behavior?

be well,
randy hengst
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New Hardware old Habits

[Cal Horner]

Recently, I broke down and got a new Windows XP based computer. And even
though there has been much moaning and winging (how many of you guys are
Poms?) about the new release of LC, and feeling flush, I thought it was time
for an upgrade of Elsie 4 to 5.

It was purchased and downloaded with no difficulty but upon installation LC
5.0 seems to have taken a walk.!!!

The installation procedure didn't ask me if I wanted to make 5 the default
version of LC it just went ahead and plunked 5 into the components folder
and told me the job was all done.

When I tried to link 5 up as the primary version of LC I wanted to use, I
kept getting 4.6.4.. So I dutifully installed all versions prior to 5 from
the new machine. Still no help. 

So I have installed 5 and reinstalled 4.6.4. Which works well.

After that long-winded dissertation  my simple question is this: What have I
done wrong this time?

Here's hoping someone has an answer that works.
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Re: R.I.P Dennis Ritchie

[Alejandro Tejada]

Truly, in this case, we are like dwarfs, lucky
enough to stand on the shoulders of giants.


Jerry Jensen wrote:
> 
> Another giant passes.
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=dennis-ritchie&pid=154063273
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Matthias Rebbe]

Ken,

thanks for letting me know about that plugin. At the moment i do not get it to 
run with LiveCode 5.0 , but i believe that is caused by the GLX2 plugin which 
is also installed, but is disabled. Will investigate tomorrow.

Btw.: looking at your site (transcript modules) reminded me of MonsieurX 
(MisterX), who left the community for some reasons in 2006.

Regards,

Matthias

Am 13.10.2011 um 23:46 schrieb Ken Ray:

> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode 
>> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac 
>> highlighting?
> 
> If you want to use it, there is the STS/MLX Editor which lets you "hook up" 
> an external text editor to LiveCode so whenever you go to edit a script it 
> opens it in your editor, and when you're done you save it in the editor and 
> when you switch back to LC, the script is updated automatically.
> 
> More info about it is here:
> 
> http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm
> 
> 
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Andre Garzia]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:

> Just for me?  Thank you very much.
>
> And thanks for reminding me of Clarify. That is on my list of apps i have
> to buy.
>
>
It took couple minutes to build and I think some shots are worth a thousand
of typos! :-)

PS: I am a Clarify junkie.

Cheers




> Regards,
>
> Matthias
> Am 13.10.2011 um 23:33 schrieb Andre Garzia:
>
> > Matthias,
> >
> > Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy
> >
> > I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great
> tool!
> >
> > Cheers
> > andre
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
> > matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> thanks Andre and Stephen.
> >>
> >> I am not very used with TextMate "modification" i am just using it.
> >>
> >> I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next?
> >> I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am
> >> searching for the wrong terms.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >> _
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >> Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard:
> >>
> >>> I love Textmate.  I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about
> >>> improvements.  But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even
> >>> works well in Chalkboard mode.
> >>>
> >>> On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> >>>
>  Matthias,
> 
>  I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the
> bundles
>  available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:
> 
>  http://revigniter.com/accessory
> 
>  :-)
> 
>  On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
>  matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for
>  LiveCode
> > editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
> > highligthing?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Ken Ray]

On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode 
> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac 
> highlighting?

If you want to use it, there is the STS/MLX Editor which lets you "hook up" an 
external text editor to LiveCode so whenever you go to edit a script it opens 
it in your editor, and when you're done you save it in the editor and when you 
switch back to LC, the script is updated automatically.

More info about it is here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/stsMLXEditor.htm


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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Matthias Rebbe]

Just for me?  Thank you very much.

And thanks for reminding me of Clarify. That is on my list of apps i have to 
buy.

Regards,

Matthias
Am 13.10.2011 um 23:33 schrieb Andre Garzia:

> Matthias,
> 
> Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy
> 
> I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great tool!
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> 
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> thanks Andre and Stephen.
>> 
>> I am not very used with TextMate "modification" i am just using it.
>> 
>> I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next?
>> I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am
>> searching for the wrong terms.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> _
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>> D-32312 Lübbecke
>> 
>> Tel +49 57 41 - 31 00 00
>> mobil +49 160 - 550 44 62
>> Fax+49 57 41 - 310 0 02
>> 
>> E-Mail matth...@matthiasrebbe.eu
>> http://www.matthiasrebbe.eu
>> 
>> Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard:
>> 
>>> I love Textmate.  I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about
>>> improvements.  But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even
>>> works well in Chalkboard mode.
>>> 
>>> On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia  wrote:
>>> 
 Matthias,
 
 I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles
 available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:
 
 http://revigniter.com/accessory
 
 :-)
 
 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
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> Hi,
> 
> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for
 LiveCode
> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
> highligthing?
> 
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> 
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Andre Garzia]

Matthias,

Check this out http://clarify-it.com/andregarzia/wz3nqy

I made it for you with the new Clarify software from Blue Mango. Great tool!

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> thanks Andre and Stephen.
>
> I am not very used with TextMate "modification" i am just using it.
>
> I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next?
> I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am
> searching for the wrong terms.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
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> Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard:
>
> > I love Textmate.  I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about
> > improvements.  But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even
> > works well in Chalkboard mode.
> >
> > On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> >
> >> Matthias,
> >>
> >> I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles
> >> available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:
> >>
> >> http://revigniter.com/accessory
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
> >> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for
> >> LiveCode
> >>> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
> >>> highligthing?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Matthias
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Paul Looney]

Help! Heather?
Time, again, to ban imports of cheese.
Paul Looney

On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
> richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses!
>>> 
>> 
>> A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here
>> in Bulgaria.
> 
> 
> try getting french cheese here in Brazil. It will cost you a kidney and an
> arm. Dutch cheese, no way!
> 
> Heck, I almost cried when I found cheddar, real cheddar, here for the first
> time in 15 years. Brazilians think that cheddar is that processed stuff that
> macdonalds puts on sandwich. It gets worse, people here sell something
> called "Dressing type cheddar" (I am not joking) which is not really made of
> milk but of something that is grown and is not eaten by a cow.
> 
> but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!!
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> --
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Mark Schonewille
>>> Economy-x-Talk
>>> Http://economy-x-talk.com
>>> 
>>> Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard
>>> Link 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René 
>>> Micout>
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> YES
 and...
 le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le
 Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu
 d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le
 Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le
 Petit René... and so on>  http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
 Liste_de_fromages_français
 
 You understand now why cheese is OT ?
 
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi,

thanks Andre and Stephen.

I am not very used with TextMate "modification" i am just using it.

I have downloaded the revIgniter TMbundles. What do i have to next?
I looked at the manual, but did not found anything about it. Maybe i am 
searching for the wrong terms.

Regards,

Matthias

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Am 13.10.2011 um 23:10 schrieb stephen barncard:

> I love Textmate.  I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about
> improvements.  But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even
> works well in Chalkboard mode.
> 
> On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> 
>> Matthias,
>> 
>> I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles
>> available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:
>> 
>> http://revigniter.com/accessory
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
>> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for
>> LiveCode
>>> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
>>> highligthing?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Colin Holgate]

I recognize that pun, from ages ago.


On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Keith Clarke wrote:

> ...isn't that always the whey! 

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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[stephen barncard]

I love Textmate.  I used to use Coda, but they became grumpy about
improvements.  But Textmate with Ralf Bitter's plugin works great. Even
works well in Chalkboard mode.

On 13 October 2011 14:02, Andre Garzia  wrote:

> Matthias,
>
> I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles
> available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:
>
> http://revigniter.com/accessory
>
> :-)
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for
> LiveCode
> > editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
> > highligthing?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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Re: Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Andre Garzia]

Matthias,

I use it for server development with LiveCode Server. I use the bundles
available from RevIgniter site, you can get them here:

http://revigniter.com/accessory

:-)

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Matthias Rebbe <
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode
> editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac
> highligthing?
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
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Anyone out there who uses TextMate for LiveCode editing?

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi,

is anyone on the list using TextMate(with syntax highlighting) for LiveCode 
editing? If so, where can i get/download the definitions for syntac 
highligthing?

Regards,

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Keith Clarke]

...isn't that always the whey! 

On 13 Oct 2011, at 21:41, Pete wrote:

> Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned
> discussion.


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Re: on-rev livecodeServer 4.6.3 .irev .lc

[Matthias Rebbe]

Hi,

just noticed that the actual version of Textastic now supports the extensions 
.lc, .irev, .rxt, .lcs.

Great for editing livecode server scripts with the ipad.

Regards,

Matthias



Am 28.07.2011 um 23:14 schrieb Ken Ray:

> 
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Michael Kann wrote:
> 
>> Andre, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the info. It looks like you can use either the old irev server or 
>> the new liveCodeServer server, depending on the file extension you use.
> 
> Cool! I've contacted the developer who makes Textastic 
> (http://www.textasticapp.com/) an awesome iOS source-code editor for the 
> iPad, to update his syntax colorization to support LiveCode files with .lc 
> and .irev extensions. It *currently* supports LiveCode with a ".lcs" 
> extension, but that was way back at the beginning when there wasn't an 
> official extension for text-based LC files.
> 
> I'll let everyone know when the update to Textastic accepts the new 
> extensions...
> 
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Re: R.I.P Dennis Ritchie

[Andre Garzia]

He was one of my heroes...

main() {
  printf("goodbye world!");
  exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
}

I think that is valid K&R C

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Jerry Jensen  wrote:

> Another giant passes.
>
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=dennis-ritchie&pid=154063273
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Pete]

Oh dear! My innocent question seems to have resurrected the banned
discussion.
Pete
Molly's Revenge 




On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bernard Devlin  wrote:

> As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art.
>
> Surely no-one intended the interminable thread to mimic the Cheese
> Shop sketch from Monty Python?  It seems like ideas just settle down
> into our sub-conscious, and we can't help but act them out (over and
> over again).
>
> Bernard
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Andre Garzia 
> wrote:
> > but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!!
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R.I.P Dennis Ritchie

[Jerry Jensen]

Another giant passes.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sfgate/obituary.aspx?n=dennis-ritchie&pid=154063273


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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Bernard Devlin]

As Oscar Wilde said: life imitates art.

Surely no-one intended the interminable thread to mimic the Cheese
Shop sketch from Monty Python?  It seems like ideas just settle down
into our sub-conscious, and we can't help but act them out (over and
over again).

Bernard

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
> but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!!

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Andre Garzia]

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM, Richmond Mathewson <
richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:
>
>> I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses!
>>
>
> A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas here
> in Bulgaria.


try getting french cheese here in Brazil. It will cost you a kidney and an
arm. Dutch cheese, no way!

Heck, I almost cried when I found cheddar, real cheddar, here for the first
time in 15 years. Brazilians think that cheddar is that processed stuff that
macdonalds puts on sandwich. It gets worse, people here sell something
called "Dressing type cheddar" (I am not joking) which is not really made of
milk but of something that is grown and is not eaten by a cow.

but on the other hand, Brazilian Minas Cheese ROCKS!!!



>
>
>
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>>
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>>
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>> Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René 
>> Micout>
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>
>>  YES
>>> and...
>>> le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le
>>> Maroil, le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu
>>> d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le
>>> Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le
>>> Petit René... and so on>  http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/**
>>> Liste_de_fromages_français
>>>
>>> You understand now why cheese is OT ?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Bon souvenir de Paris
>>> et particulièrement pour Richmond !
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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Andre Garzia]

Guys,

Thank you very much for the kind words and funding!!! If we started keeping
track of beers, we'll see a strange attractor and in the end they will all
be given to Scott Raney and Bill Aktinson (I probably got both names wrong).

I am really happy that my little works are appreciated and that they help
you guys in your works.

Thanks again and I will keep the releases flowing, remember to "hg pull"
every now and then!

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Alex Tweedly  wrote:

> You know, if we all gave Andre the 2 or 3 beers we each owe him, he'd be
> out of action for a long time :-)
>
> I had to Google 'JSON' to find out what it was  but it was still a good
> idea to jump on the bandwagon.
>
> -- Alex.
> P.S. Andre - PebbleBeach is me.
>
>
> On 13/10/2011 17:10, Mark Wieder wrote:
>
>> Keith-
>>
>> Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote:
>>
>>  Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to
>>> experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time,
>>> I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already!
>>>
>> Same here.
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 10/13/2011 09:53 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses!


A very, very great disappointment to me that we cannot buy Nagel Kaas 
here in Bulgaria.




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Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micout  het 
volgende geschreven:


YES
and...
le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le 
Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le 
Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la 
Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on>  
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français

You understand now why cheese is OT ?

;-)

Bon souvenir de Paris
et particulièrement pour Richmond !

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 10/13/2011 09:46 PM, René Micout wrote:

Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :


Pass the Camembert.

YES
and...
le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, le 
Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, le 
Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la 
Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on>  
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français

You understand now why cheese is OT ?

;-)

Bon souvenir de Paris
et particulièrement pour Richmond !



J'aime beaucoup crot du diable (excusez-moi, sans un accent circonflex)!

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Mark Schonewille]

I'm sooo tempted to list all Dutch cheeses!

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Op 13 okt. 2011 om 20:46 heeft René Micout  het 
volgende geschreven:

> YES 
> and...
> le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, 
> le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu 
> d'Auvergne, le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le 
> Chabichou, l'Epoisses, la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le 
> Petit René... and so on > 
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français
> 
> You understand now why cheese is OT ?
> 
> ;-)
> 
> Bon souvenir de Paris
> et particulièrement pour Richmond !

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[René Micout]

Le 13 oct. 2011 à 19:54, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

> 
> Pass the Camembert.

YES 
and...
le Livarot, le Pont-l'évêque, le Morbier, le Neufchâtel, Le Comté, le Maroil, 
le Beaufort, le Brie, le Boursin, le Crotin de Chavignoles, le Bleu d'Auvergne, 
le Bleu de Bresse, la Brousse, le Chaumes, le Cantal, le Chabichou, l'Epoisses, 
la Tomme des Bauges, le Munster, le Reblochon, le Petit René... and so on > 
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_fromages_français

You understand now why cheese is OT ?

;-)

Bon souvenir de Paris
et particulièrement pour Richmond !



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Re: What does 'shadows' mean?

[Keith Clarke]

On 13 Oct 2011, at 12:46, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:

> To define the workings of a four-stroke engine, I would always
> prefer English.
> To tell a woman how much I love her, I would always prefer French !
I once tried to explain the the (non)workings of a four-stroke engine to the 
woman I love - the language I used was... rather rapidly out of her earshot! ;-)
Best,
Keith..


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Re: Standalones and Opening stack via go url...?

[John Patten]

FWIW...Solved it!

When creating a standalone, I used the default settings in regards to the 
"inclusions" which is to "Search for required inclusions when saving the 
standalone application." Having something work from the IDE but not from the 
Standalone means LiveCode apparently is not finding the right "inclusions." 

I set it the standalone settings to manually select  the inclusions. Then  I 
selected all inclusions from Animation through Printing, built my standalone, 
and then everything worked. Then I went back and selected just the original 
three, Geometry, Internet, and Printing and it worked again. 

It seems like the radio button that has LiveCode search for inclusions in the 
Standalone Settings does not always find correct inclusions. My guess is since 
it uses a go ULR "http://etc.etc... call it needs the Internet inclusion and 
was not getting it.

Seems from now on it's best to guess which inclusions are needed and select 
those manually if you have a project working in the IDE but not as a 
standalone? Is this a common issue?

Thanks!

John Patten
SUSD

On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:26 PM, John Patten wrote:

> Hi All!
> 
> I created a splash stack standalone that opens up a sub stack (Main App) 
> stored in a local folder. From this stack, (Main App), I wish to open up a 
> stack stored on a web server using the: go stack URL 
> "http://www.server.com/mysubstack";
> 
> Here's the script I'm using in the Main App stack:
> 
> put cd fld 1 into tAction --(this holds the url address of substack)
>   put "go stack URL" & quote & tAction & quote into tAction  --(was having 
> difficulty with quotes surrounding URL from web page to cd field, so did it 
> this way)
>   do tAction
>   put specialfolderpath ("documents") & "/OneButtonOneField/" into tMainStack
>   put the short name of current stack into tCurrentStack
> save current stack as tMainStack & "/" & tCurrentStack
> 
> 
> This script works fine when everything is done in the IDE, however, when it 
> runs from the standalone the second stack never opens the stack stored on the 
> server. It also appears to save itself (Main App) as opposed to the stack I'm 
> attempting to open???
> 
> Is what I'm attempting not possible in this fashion?  (standalone --> stack 
> --> go url "http:...stack"
> 
> Thank You!
> 
> John Patten
> SUSD
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Richmond Mathewson]

On 10/13/2011 08:34 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:

A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in
January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy:


It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone 
mentioned ch**se, it started a stream of responses that went on for 
weeks, generated hundreds or thousands of messages which debated the 
superiority of one type of ch**se over another, the countries that 
make the best ch**se, why one country's product is inferior to 
another, what each type was best for, who like which type, who hates 
which type and why, etc. etc.


After perhaps a thousand messages, the topic was banned. Since then 
it's beome the catch-all word here for just about any subject that 
could incite controversy and is off topic.




Hey, that's really fascinating; how about a thousand message thread on 
ch**se; we could try and break the world record for the longest thread 
on a Use-List


Pass the Camembert.

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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Alex Tweedly]

You know, if we all gave Andre the 2 or 3 beers we each owe him, he'd be 
out of action for a long time :-)


I had to Google 'JSON' to find out what it was  but it was still a 
good idea to jump on the bandwagon.


-- Alex.
P.S. Andre - PebbleBeach is me.

On 13/10/2011 17:10, Mark Wieder wrote:

Keith-

Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote:


Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to
experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time,
I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already!

Same here.




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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[J. Landman Gay]

On 10/13/11 8:00 AM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:

A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in
January 2003 with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy:


It goes farther back than that, but I'm not sure by how much. Someone 
mentioned ch**se, it started a stream of responses that went on for 
weeks, generated hundreds or thousands of messages which debated the 
superiority of one type of ch**se over another, the countries that make 
the best ch**se, why one country's product is inferior to another, what 
each type was best for, who like which type, who hates which type and 
why, etc. etc.


After perhaps a thousand messages, the topic was banned. Since then it's 
beome the catch-all word here for just about any subject that could 
incite controversy and is off topic.


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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Keith Clarke]

SAML = Security Assertion Markup Language, used for single sign-on 
http://saml.xml.org/
Best,
Keith..

On 13 Oct 2011, at 17:13, Andre Garzia wrote:

> Thanks Guys
> 
> Stay tuned for more releases and some docs! and thanks again for the
> support!
> 
> (PS: What is SAML?!)
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> 
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Keith Clarke <
> keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment
>> with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe
>> Andre a beer or three already!
>> Best,
>> Keith..
>> 
>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>> 
>>> Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions
>> soon.
>>> 
>>> -- Tom McGrath III
>>> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
>>> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
>>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
>>> 
 How much do you need, and what will you build for that?
 And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once
 its feature-complete?
 
 --Maarten
 PS:great work!
 
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia 
>> wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I
>> am
> now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much
>> work to
> be done and I don't plan to stop it.
> 
> You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here:
> http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite
> 
> You can browse the mercurial repository here:
> http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite
> 
> I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to
> contribute.
> 
> WHAT IS AVAILABLE:
> 
> * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License.
> * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library.
> * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts
>> to a
> user wall.
> 
> Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN
>> SOURCE
> software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better
>> join
> the fundraising.
> 
> So guys, can you please test?
> 
> By the way, you will need to register your application on
> http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to
>> pick your
> application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the
>> example
> stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you.
> 
> Cheers
> andre
> PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound.
> 
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[ANN] LiveCode.tv event #39

[Björnke von Gierke]

Hello Fans of the Event

Note that we need presenters for 28. Oct and later!


Join us this Saturday as Colin Holgate will offer an intro into the concepts of 
Adobe Flash, and then compare its capabilities with LiveCode. 
As an extension of that, Malte Brill shows off his Animation Engine. This 
add-on offers several ways to do complex animations and also has a lot of other 
helper handlers. He also explains what is new and exciting about the fifth 
version of AE.


Join ChatRev to watch live at 20:00 CET on Saturday, 15th October. Download a 
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go stack URL “http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev”


Sat. 15th October 2011
20:00 Rome
19:00 London
14:00 New York
11:00 Los Angeles
5:00 Sydney (Sun.)


Recordings available when people remember to record: http://livecode.tv

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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Phil Davis]

Send Andre More Love

-- or --

Send Andre More Loot

which in this case are pretty much equivalent.  ;-)

Phil



On 10/13/11 9:13 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

(PS: What is SAML?!)

Cheers
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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Andre Garzia]

Thanks Guys

Stay tuned for more releases and some docs! and thanks again for the
support!

(PS: What is SAML?!)

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Keith Clarke <
keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk> wrote:

> Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment
> with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe
> Andre a beer or three already!
> Best,
> Keith..
>
> On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote:
>
> > Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions
> soon.
> >
> > -- Tom McGrath III
> > http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
> > 3mcgr...@comcast.net
> >
> > On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
> >
> >> How much do you need, and what will you build for that?
> >> And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once
> >> its feature-complete?
> >>
> >> --Maarten
> >> PS:great work!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia 
> wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I
> am
> >>> now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much
> work to
> >>> be done and I don't plan to stop it.
> >>>
> >>> You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here:
> >>> http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite
> >>>
> >>> You can browse the mercurial repository here:
> >>> http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite
> >>>
> >>> I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to
> >>> contribute.
> >>>
> >>> WHAT IS AVAILABLE:
> >>>
> >>> * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License.
> >>> * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library.
> >>> * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts
> to a
> >>> user wall.
> >>>
> >>> Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN
> SOURCE
> >>> software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better
> join
> >>> the fundraising.
> >>>
> >>> So guys, can you please test?
> >>>
> >>> By the way, you will need to register your application on
> >>> http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to
> pick your
> >>> application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the
> example
> >>> stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> andre
> >>> PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code.
> >>> http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service.
>
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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Mark Wieder]

Keith-

Thursday, October 13, 2011, 8:58:02 AM, you wrote:

> Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to
> experiment with OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time,
> I definitely owe Andre a beer or three already!

Same here.

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Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Keith Clarke]

Yep, I jumped on the old band-wagon, too, as whilst I'd like to experiment with 
OAuth / SAML support and may need JSON at some time, I definitely owe Andre a 
beer or three already!
Best,
Keith..

On 13 Oct 2011, at 15:54, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

> Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions 
> soon.
> 
> -- Tom McGrath III
> http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
> 3mcgr...@comcast.net
> 
> On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:
> 
>> How much do you need, and what will you build for that?
>> And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once
>> its feature-complete?
>> 
>> --Maarten
>> PS:great work!
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am
>>> now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to
>>> be done and I don't plan to stop it.
>>> 
>>> You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here:
>>> http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite
>>> 
>>> You can browse the mercurial repository here:
>>> http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite
>>> 
>>> I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to
>>> contribute.
>>> 
>>> WHAT IS AVAILABLE:
>>> 
>>> * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License.
>>> * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library.
>>> * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a
>>> user wall.
>>> 
>>> Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE
>>> software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join
>>> the fundraising.
>>> 
>>> So guys, can you please test?
>>> 
>>> By the way, you will need to register your application on
>>> http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your
>>> application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example
>>> stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> andre
>>> PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service.


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Re: Another examples of the screen refresh problem on the Mac?

[Thomas McGrath III]

Great explanation and break down Richard. I very much enjoyed this.


-- Tom McGrath III
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On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> James Hurley wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for this Bernd. It is going to take me a while to digest these new 
>> graphic features in 5.0. I confess I am unaware of the interaction between 
>> RR code and the display on the screen. That's probably important. :-)
>> 
>> Like you, I don't see much improvement of 5.0 over 4.6 in animation.  The 
>> effect of lowering the syncRate, not so much the rate as the time between 
>> syncs (?), is significant, but then that was something available to us in 
>> 4.6--except that I didn't know it. The nomenclature suggests that it is the 
>> frequency, when it appears to be the period. And, as we all learned in 
>> physics, one is the reciprocal of the other.
>> 
>> I would like to see a little help from RR on these new features--by way of a 
>> demonstration stack perhaps.
> 
> Yes, I think that's going to be necessary, and over time as more is 
> understood about the new rendering scheme, hopefully there will also be more 
> intelligent defaults so users can immediately see at least some benefit 
> without having to do multiple iterations of experimentation.
> 
> The v5.0 rendering engine represents perhaps the biggest change in the 
> history of the engine to how objects are rendered on screen.   The upside is 
> that it's possible to see graphics performance increase many times over 
> previous versions.  The downside is that it's not easy to realize that 
> performance gain without a great deal of experimentation.
> 
> In earlier versions, cards were rendered using a very brute-force method, in 
> which every time there was a screen refresh every object was rendered from 
> back to front until all had been rendered, and then that composite image was 
> copied to the graphport of the window in which the card is displayed.
> 
> So simply moving a single billiard ball, which might actually affect only one 
> small portion of the screen, caused the entire screen to go through that 
> rendering process.  It was thorough and robust, but often redundant.
> 
> In the new rendering engine, the screen composite is divided into tiles, and 
> logic is applied to determining whether a given tile is affected by a given 
> change.  Those tiles that are affected will be re-rendered, while those that 
> aren't will simply retain their last rendering and use that to copy to the 
> window for the finished result.
> 
> There is a certain amount of additional internal overhead to this tiled 
> scheme, however, since it now has to keep track of multiple sections of the 
> screen and run through that hit-testing to determine which ones need to be 
> re-rendered.  On the one hand, more tiles can mean less re-rerendering, but 
> on the other hand it means more tile management.
> 
> So the key to using the new graphics engine effectively boils down to finding 
> the right tile size optimal for your particular layout and the nature of the 
> changes happening within it.
> 
> If you have relatively small objects whose changes affect relatively small 
> portions of the screen, you may find a smaller tile size will offer greater 
> performance.
> 
> But if even a small object moves over a large area, a larger tile size may 
> provide even better performance.
> 
> The optimal tile size can't be known in advance, because it depends on a wide 
> variety of factors driven by scripts that may exist in the objects on the 
> card themselves, or even in some remote library, and the sum of their 
> interactions may be too complex to expect that the engine can figure out in 
> advance how to set an optimal tile size.
> 
> So in v5, to take advantage of this new rendering scheme we need to 
> experiment with different tile sizes, some larger and some smaller, and 
> perhaps even different rendering engines on the platforms they're available 
> on (LC now uses OpenGL, for example, on platforms where that technology is 
> available).
> 
> Through the evolution of this new engine, developers on the dev list noted a 
> wide range of performance results from "worse than before" to "OMG this thing 
> just flies!", depending on the different combinations of tile sizes and other 
> rendering options they took the time to experiment with.
> 
> Given the complexity of the new renderer, and how much conceptualization and 
> experimentation is required by the user to use it well, it could be argued 
> that it has introduced a level of complexity that seems counter-productive to 
> RunRev's goal of delivering the simplest system possible for delivering 
> professional software.
> 
> But I believe that as we use it more often, and as experimentation and 
> development continue at RunRev, we will shortly see ever-better versions of 
> this engine which are able to apply defaults which provide at least some of 
> the benefits, leaving furt

Re: [ANN] minimal facebook library available

[Thomas McGrath III]

Just joined the fundraising efforts. Hope you get enough contributions soon.

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On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:42 AM, Maarten Koopmans wrote:

> How much do you need, and what will you build for that?
> And what do we need to raise to make the end result BSD licensed once
> its feature-complete?
> 
> --Maarten
> PS:great work!
> 
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Andre Garzia  wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Thanks to those that contributed with my little fundraising campaign, I am
>> now able to release a minimal facebook library. There is still much work to
>> be done and I don't plan to stop it.
>> 
>> You can learn more about my Social Network Library Suite here:
>> http://andregarzia.com/page/socialsuite
>> 
>> You can browse the mercurial repository here:
>> http://hg.andregarzia.com/livecode-socialsuite
>> 
>> I am still raising funds for this suite, so, don't loose your chance to
>> contribute.
>> 
>> WHAT IS AVAILABLE:
>> 
>> * lib.aag.json.livecode - a minimal JSON library. BSD License.
>> * lib.aag.facebook.livecode - a simple low level facebook library.
>> * examples/facebook/simpleposter.livecode - a sample stack that posts to a
>> user wall.
>> 
>> Remember this library is GPL licensed. You can only build FREE, OPEN SOURCE
>> software with it. If you want a commercial version, then, you'd better join
>> the fundraising.
>> 
>> So guys, can you please test?
>> 
>> By the way, you will need to register your application on
>> http://developer.facebook.com. After registering, you will need to pick your
>> application id and application secret and fill the setup card on the example
>> stack. I am not sharing my application id and secret with you.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> andre
>> PS: fundraiser, sleep with this sound.
>> 
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Peter M. Brigham, MD]

A search in the Gmane list archives suggests that this started in January 2003 
with a message from the listMom, Heather Nagy:

"Dear list members, Let us start the New Year with a reminder of the mission 
statement for this list: We are here to discuss Revolution, and help each other 
along the road of programming in Revolution, swap tips, solve problems, offer 
information and ask questions about using Revolution. Politics, religion and 
cheese are all off topic"

This started off intermittent jokes mentioning cheese and then apologizing for 
being off-topic ("Sorry, Heather...").

-- Peter

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"How can you govern a country where there are over 300 kinds of cheese?"
-- Charles de Gaulle

(Sorry, Heather)


On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:16 AM, Pete wrote:

> OK, now I know this is probably going to resurrect some painful memories but
> I haven't been a member of this group for long enough to understand the
> reason behind "the forbidden word that begins with ch".  I mean, "ch" is
> pretty tasty and quite nutritious in my experience
> Pete
> Molly's Revenge 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> 
>>> So far as I know, "beef" is not on the list of banned topics. Cheese
>> however...
>> 
>> Uh-oh, you mentioned "beef and "cheese" in the same email -- now that's not
>> kosher
>> 
>> -- Peter
>> 
>> Peter M. Brigham
>> pmb...@gmail.com
>> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>> 
>> 
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Re: Licenses

[Andre Garzia]

Mark,

I have no clue but if you find it, could you post it here?

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for generally applicable EULA texts that are freely available.
> The text itself should not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the
> public domain. The text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The
> license itself should apply to commercial and free software, but not to
> open-source. Any suggestions, pretty please?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
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> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
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>
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Re: Licenses

[Admin]

  

I have a general EULA in english that use for my products. I would
gladly share it with you. 

Mike 

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:16:24 +0200,
Mark Schonewille wrote: 

> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for generally
applicable EULA texts that are freely available. The text itself should
not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the public domain. The
text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The license itself
should apply to commercial and free software, but not to open-source.
Any suggestions, pretty please?
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark
Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com [1]
> Twitter:
http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer [2]
> KvK: 50277553
> 
> See what you
get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are
listed at http://qery.us/zr [3]
> 
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Re: What does 'shadows' mean?

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

Keith,

I am sure we can come to an agreement about the beauty
(and complexity) of the English Language, and its banana
skins .

and also the wonderful depth of the music of Pink Floyd.

(although I do have a weak spot for "Wish You Were Here")

As each language has its strong points and its weak points,
I can only fall back on the answer I give to people who ask
me "As a bilingual person (English/French), which language
is the most powerful, which do you prefer ?".

My answer is always the same :

To define the workings of a four-stroke engine, I would always
prefer English.
To tell a woman how much I love her, I would always prefer French !

As England and Ireland have both been eliminated from the
world Rugby cup, I am prepared to settle for a draw (1:1)
concerning an alternative word for "shadows".

BUT - Concerning celestial bodies, LiveCode IS out of this world !

Best Regards

-Francis



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Licenses

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

I am looking for generally applicable EULA texts that are freely available. The 
text itself should not be licensed/copyrighted, i.e. it should be in the public 
domain. The text is preferably composed in multiple languages. The license 
itself should apply to commercial and free software, but not to open-source. 
Any suggestions, pretty please?

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[stephen barncard]

I think it was cool that Runrev listened to us on the list, many DEMANDED a
plugin, stating that it was the 'Holy Grail'  of web development.

So they MADE ONE.  I was impressed. They  'matched' the browser document
model with a Rev card/stack. Wow.

Regardless of the fact that I put off touching javascript at for a while, I
realized with all the trouble I'd seen making the plugin work in 'all
browsers', that an approach that used either a server-based solution with
html and javascript, or a thin client using Livecode desktop, or a "player"
approach that started up stacks that live online would be a more consistent
user and developer experience.

I think it was in the middle of the plug-in period that Runrev changed focus
and started their quest for the iPhone project. Judging by the quantity of
posts about phones, I'd say it was a pretty good decision.



On 12 October 2011 23:59, Chipp Walters  wrote:

> On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin  wrote:
>
> > .
> >
> > To say I was let down is an
> > understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web
> > deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID
> > NOT WORK.
>
> Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin
> technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts:
>
> A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just
> search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is
> true AND..
>
> B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a
> bit sketchy at best.
>
> Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be
> it LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary
> upfront time researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we
> build test bed mockups just to be sure.
>
> I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be
> forgetting soon.
>
> And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product
> unless they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are
> much more finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you,
> the one you chose is fairly rough.
>
> I believe UNICODE has been on the "coming next" list (along with a new
> improved field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been
> around for quite a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many
> times it's no big deal to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision.
> We weren't counting on it. Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or
> knowledge of this.
>
> Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and
> Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the
> channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a
> growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to
> play catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of
> programmers at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google,
> not to mention the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of
> feature parity for Red Ubuntu Hat.
>
> Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might
> also factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for
> them, but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse.
>
> So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing,
> always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new
> build, and--  always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like
> any other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely
> disappointed. There are many here who will steer you correctly.
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Re: So RunRev wants more of my money- what has been fixed?

[Chipp Walters]

On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin  wrote:

> . 
> 
> To say I was let down is an
> understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web
> deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID
> NOT WORK. 

Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin 
technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts:

A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just 
search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is true 
AND..

B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a bit 
sketchy at best.

Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be it 
LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary upfront time 
researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we build test bed 
mockups just to be sure.

I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be 
forgetting soon.

And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product unless 
they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are much more 
finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you, the one you 
chose is fairly rough.

I believe UNICODE has been on the "coming next" list (along with a new improved 
field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been around for quite 
a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many times it's no big deal 
to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision. We weren't counting on it. 
Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or knowledge of this.

Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and 
Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the 
channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a 
growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to play 
catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of programmers 
at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google, not to mention 
the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of feature parity for 
Red Ubuntu Hat.

Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might also 
factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for them, 
but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse.

So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing, 
always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new build, 
and--  always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like any 
other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely disappointed. 
There are many here who will steer you correctly.
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