Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Did the omega bundle include updates? Have you contacted RunRev about this? I'm paid up until 2015 but LC 5.0.0 wasn't showing up as a downloadable item, they fixed this within a couple of hours of my contacting them. Ian On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:47, Admin wrote: I wish Runrev would man up and not promise a year of updates and a few months later renig. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
On 20 Oct 2011, at 03:51, RevList wrote: What does the second category mean? Does this mean that my license has expired, and if I want to be able to deply stand alone apps for Mac, Windows and Linux I have to pay? Whatever version of LiveCode you have will continue to work. If you have previously bought desktop deployment that should still be working. Is the Web Deployment the web plugin? Yes. How long is the license good for? How can I find out when the other licenses expire? Probably best to get in touch with RunRev directly. Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to read an specific page into pdf document?
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Thanks to Ken Ray for his close to a one-liner. put char 1 to 3 of field MyPagesC into GVPage put tell app quote Skim quote cr \ set LVDeskTop to path to desktop as string cr \ open ( LVDeskTop quote SkimTest1.pdf quote ) cr \ tell document 1 cr go to page GVPage cr \ set result to (get text for page GVPage ) as text cr \ end tell cr end tell into GVMasterScript do GVMasterScript as AppleScript put char 2 to -2 of the result into field MySkim show field MySkim I have added Kens small correction to his post of yesterday (he gave me the correction off-forum) Great Stuff - Works a treat ! Sigh ! - I have a long way to go to master AppleScript ... -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
According to Heather, he didn't upgrade to Complete but to some other bundle. Ian On 20 Oct 2011, at 12:17, Mark Schonewille wrote: If you upgraded to Complete a few months ago... shouldn't you be receiving updates for one year without having to pay again? If not, then I'm so happy I didn't upgrade to Complete because I don't understand what Complete is all about! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Ian, Hence if. I hope Mike will tell what actually happened, after sorting it out with Heather. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 13:28, Ian Wood wrote: According to Heather, he didn't upgrade to Complete but to some other bundle. Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Heather, Oh. In every other program I have purchased, including software IDEs, it is almost always common to get a year (or more) of updates, so it was kind of assumed. For some reason, I thought I upgraded to complete, but you are right about me upgrading to Gold. I checked my purchases. Truth be told, I have not had Live Code that long and had no idea 5 was 'around the corner' considering how much I plunked down (although it was still a good deal). I would have waited if I knew that. I wish there was a product version cycle countdown timer or something. I mean, you went from 4.6 to 5. What happened to 4.7, 4.8 and 4.9 (lol). Mike On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:41:10 +0100, Heather Nagey wrote: I'm rather concerned about this. The Omega bundle did not include a year of updates, and if anyone told you it did, they were misinformed, and giving you incorrect advice. Can you point to where this information was provided? I've checked your license entitlement, and your upgrade was to the Gold bundle, with a very substantial discount applied due to the free platforms you earned during the Summer Academy. The Gold bundle does not carry an extended upgrade entitlement, only the Complete license offers this. Your upgrade was quite close to the cut off date for getting LiveCode 5 free however. If you email me in support directly we might come to some kind of arrangement. I'd like to re-iterate however, that we certainly never promised a year of updates with the Omega bundle. The only license type we sell that carries a year of updates is the Complete license. Regards, Heather On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:47, Admin wrote: To add to the below questions: I paid for a year of updates, or so I thought, when I bought the Omega Bundle much less than a year ago. Yet, now I have to pay. As someone who has NO money and would like to finish what I started, I was under the impression I was due for a bunch more updates. To somewhat answer the below questions: I understand that I have 4.6 and anything I make with that, and deploy using, will still work, but with all the bugs in the 4.x versions/deployment options and the promise of added features and bug fixes in 5.0, I feel truly slighted. To make matters worse, I upgraded to complete and only a couple of months later, now I have to pay for all updates. (namely, you don't have to update and spend money unless you want the 5.0 features. However, since things were left unfinished, it seems like you HAVE TO pay for the update just to get what you paid for the version before - and even that is not guaranteed). That is the main reason I am so upset. I wish Runrev would man up and not promise a year of updates and a few months later renig. Mike On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:51:23 -0700, RevList wrote: I have to admit that I have not paid much attention to this lately so I may have missed something, and also, because my employer use to pay for my RunRev licenses, I didn't worry too much. Things have changed for me lately and it looks like if I want to continue developing using LiveCode, I am going to have to maintain the licensing costs myself. When I log in to my account, I see I have purchased ent // $99 ft:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%And Buy addon for Server Deployment // $299 Livecode Box // 100%The last two ever purchased. What does the second category mean? Does this mean that my license has expired, and if I want to be able to deply stand alone apps ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width Web Deployment the web plugin? Thanks in advance is someone can point dding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px s left:5px; width:100%Stewart Lynch CreaTECH Solutions sly...@createchsol.com [1] [1] 604.484.8499 Skype:StewartLynch are only 10 kinds of people. lockquote understand binary and those who don't.**_ n-left:5px; width:100%use-livecode mailing kquote type=cite style=padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode [2] [3] Links: -- [1] mailto:s .com [3] runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ ec...@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and mana ription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode [3] Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ [4] LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com [5] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode [6] Links: -- [1] mailto:sly...@createchsol.com [2] mailto:use-livecode@listdiv ribeandmanageyoursubscriptionpref /divef= [3]
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Richard, Alejandro, Ken, et. al., I thank you for your kind words, but RunRev and this list provides a whole body of specialists. I speak a foreign language, Math--and I'm not the only one. I ought to have mastered a bit of math after 40 years teaching mathematical physics. (In retirement I have had trouble weaning myself from teaching and research , and so you have become my occasional outlet.) But we are a body of specialists, all versatile within our areas of expertise. To put expertise into perspective, let me say that I have the greatest admiration for the 5 year old little Chinese child. He can speak Chinese for heaven's sake! How does he do it? It's all Greek to me--as math is to some others As some have learned from me, I have learned from so many others. It is hard to remember but somewhere along the line I learned how to extract information from a list: repeat for each line tLine in tList if tLine... then put tLine cr after results end if end repeat This seems mundane now, but I have picked up a vast storehouse of such tricks and techniques from others on this list, ideas that were as alien to me as a Fourier transform might seem to others. Among many other I have learned from Richard, our essayist, in response to the broader issues and provider of 4Wprops (where I learned that controls have more properties than Bank of America has in foreclosure); from Alejandro I have been introduced to the beautiful mathematics behind the Bezier curve and the utility of ExportToIllustrator (I can't imagine what must have gone into that) and Ken's StackRunner and Stykz and answers to all matters on user interface. And the hundreds of others who have shared their particular expertise with us. Their name is legion. Not only is this list the source of wisdom but it may be the most civilized list in the computer world. And with so many who have a right to a considerable ego. Astonishing. It is so easy to be misinterpreted in communication without accompanying body language. There are about 45 muscles in the human face, most for the purpose to presenting emotion. How many emoticons are their? So, though 80, I am unwilling to accept Job's tribute to death as the single best invention of life. That's a hard sell. To me, as I believe it was to Jobs, the best part of life is the pursuit of goals that excite. (As an aside, when I retired from teaching and research, I moved to the foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains and built my own house. Every bit. By myself. I am so proud. The worst part was being finished.) But I digress. Needless to say, I deeply appreciate being well thought of. Thank you. Jim And now, back to Earth and breakfast. Alejandro Tejada wrote: James Hurley wrote: My cup already runneth over. I'm 80 years old now, but still manage to keep busy. Only my memory is shot. But there are advantages to that as well. There is a lot I won't mind losing track of. Well, your activity in this platform suggest that your mental age is several decades younger. Your generation is a witness of the rising of the modern world. Hopefully, all your wisdoms and insights will be available in the future for those who want to learn from them. Indeed it has: For as long as I've been working with xTalks, most of the cool stuff any of us writes that involves math has been influenced if not written by Mr. Hurley. From HyperCard and SuperCard to LiveCode, Hurley's influence has been felt far and wide. He is a math god, and more than that one of the best teachers I've ever known, able to not just possess valuable knowledge but also has the gift of being able to transfer that knowledge to others. Damn, if he was my high school physics teacher I'd probably be working at NASA today. He may get mad at me for writing this because he's also one of the more humble souls I've come across. But it's the plain truth, as anyone here who's used his code will attest. Thankfully, he lives a couple thousand miles from me so he can't come over here to punch me for my comments. :) So I stand by them, with a career's worth of gratitude. One of the very best moments I've ever had at a conference was at RevLive in Vegas when Jim showed me his rainbow simulator. Ultra-cool stuff, as is just about everything he turns out. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Hi Mike, I agree. It would be nice to either know what to expect or get free updates for a reasonable amount of time. RealStudio offers 3 months of updates for free. That's reasonable and avoids unexpected surprises. Thus I didn't need to think long before buying my RealStudio license. When I paid for my Revolution Enterprise license in 2009, I got one single major update (4.0) two months after buying my license. I felt this was actually the version I had paid for, because I already had the previous version (3.5). I felt I was entitled to at least one more major update, because I had paid so much money. The next major update (4.5) was released right after my license expired, while I personally felt I had actually paid for that next update. That's very unpleasant and makes me feel I wasted my money (and that's a very friendly way to describe my feelings). Currently, I am trying to decide whether to buy 5.0, but it is very difficult, without information about what to expect, no free updates, no trial versions even (I got free trial versions for older versions and am grateful for those, but the trials only made me find essential bugs and I had to decide to wait). I kind of accidentally asked RunRev to help me solve this problem, but although I did get a few extra trial versions, it was to no avail. I asked RealStudio what they think. Although I'm not sure I should quote them, it seems they just can't imagine that the number of LiveCode trial versions is limited. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 14:36, Admin wrote: Heather, Oh. In every other program I have purchased, including software IDEs, it is almost always common to get a year (or more) of updates, so it was kind of assumed. For some reason, I thought I upgraded to complete, but you are right about me upgrading to Gold. I checked my purchases. Truth be told, I have not had Live Code that long and had no idea 5 was 'around the corner' considering how much I plunked down (although it was still a good deal). I would have waited if I knew that. I wish there was a product version cycle countdown timer or something. I mean, you went from 4.6 to 5. What happened to 4.7, 4.8 and 4.9 (lol). Mike On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:41:10 +0100, Heather Nagey wrote: I'm rather concerned about this. The Omega bundle did not include a year of updates, and if anyone told you it did, they were misinformed, and giving you incorrect advice. Can you point to where this information was provided? I've checked your license entitlement, and your upgrade was to the Gold bundle, with a very substantial discount applied due to the free platforms you earned during the Summer Academy. The Gold bundle does not carry an extended upgrade entitlement, only the Complete license offers this. Your upgrade was quite close to the cut off date for getting LiveCode 5 free however. If you email me in support directly we might come to some kind of arrangement. I'd like to re-iterate however, that we certainly never promised a year of updates with the Omega bundle. The only license type we sell that carries a year of updates is the Complete license. Regards, Heather ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
It seems my original post was hijacked with the first response and no one answered my question. I need to know when my licenses expire and what it all means. Please point me in the right direction. Stewart I have to admit that I have not paid much attention to this lately so I may have missed something, and also, because my employer use to pay for my RunRev licenses, I didn't worry too much. Things have changed for me lately and it looks like if I want to continue developing using LiveCode, I am going to have to maintain the licensing costs myself. This is under Commercial License Options When I log in to my account, I see I have purchased LiveCode Development Tools Mobile Deployment: iOS Mobile Deployment: Android Mobile Deployment: Win 6.5 (Pre-Release) Beside the following, I am seeing Update Addon Desktop Deployment: Mac + Windows // $129 Desktop Deployment Linux // $129 Web Deployment // $99 And Buy addon for Server Deployment // $299 Livecode Box // $15 The last two make sense, never purchased. What does the second category mean? Does this mean that my license has expired, and if I want to be able to deply stand alone apps for Mac, Windows and Linux I have to pay? Is the Web Deployment the web plugin? How long is the license good for? How can I find out when the other licenses expire? Thanks in advance is someone can point me to where this is explained. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Licences do not expire - only the right to free updates. These, in turn, depend on exactly what you bought, when and whether you specifically purchased an an active renewal pack (or are living in the grace period from your original/last order). Any recent order will have the updates grace period in your confirmation email. If you bought more than a few months ago, your grace period will be over but your account will confirm whether you have an active renewal pack http://www.runrev.com/store/account/login Otherwise (or if in doubt) email supp...@runrev.com HTH Keith.. On 20 Oct 2011, at 15:28, RevList wrote: It seems my original post was hijacked with the first response and no one answered my question. I need to know when my licenses expire and what it all means. Please point me in the right direction. Stewart ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
I would talk to Heather at runrev directly to get your answer. To me, the answer seems to be depends. Mike RevList revl...@createchsol.com wrote: It seems my original post was hijacked with the first response and no one answered my question. I need to know when my licenses expire and what it all means. Please point me in the right direction. Stewart I have to admit that I have not paid much attention to this lately so I may have missed something, and also, because my employer use to pay for my RunRev licenses, I didn't worry too much. Things have changed for me lately and it looks like if I want to continue developing using LiveCode, I am going to have to maintain the licensing costs myself. This is under Commercial License Options When I log in to my account, I see I have purchased LiveCode Development Tools Mobile Deployment: iOS Mobile Deployment: Android Mobile Deployment: Win 6.5 (Pre-Release) Beside the following, I am seeing Update Addon Desktop Deployment: Mac + Windows // $129 Desktop Deployment Linux // $129 Web Deployment // $99 And Buy addon for Server Deployment // $299 Livecode Box // $15 The last two make sense, never purchased. What does the second category mean? Does this mean that my license has expired, and if I want to be able to deply stand alone apps for Mac, Windows and Linux I have to pay? Is the Web Deployment the web plugin? How long is the license good for? How can I find out when the other licenses expire? Thanks in advance is someone can point me to where this is explained. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Resizable DataGrid Question
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Mike Doub m...@doub.com wrote: on FillInData pDataArray set the text of field Name of me to pDataArray[LastName] \ comma space pDataArray[FirstName] space pDataArray[MiddleName] put char 1 of fld Name of me into field spacerLable of me put the dgControl of me into theGrid put the dgIndex of me into tIndex This line is correct. You have verified that tIndex has no value? -- get the index of the current grid item put the dgIndexes of me into tList The above line should really read put the dgIndexes of theGrid into tList. I think your syntax probably works though as dgIndexes is defined as a setProp in the data grid library script. -- get list of grid indexes in display order put itemoffset(tIndex,tList) into toff You should set the wholeMatches to true before executing the above line. --find the current index in the ordered list put item (toff -1) of tList into tpreIndex -- get the index of the previous grid item if tpreIndex = 0 then set the visiable of group spacer of me to true -- we are the first grid item, so show the spacer else put the dgDataOfIndex[tpreIndex] of me into preData -- get the data for the previous grid item The above line should be targeting the data grid. put the dgDataOfIndex[tPreIndex] of theGrid if char 1 of preData[LastName] = field spacerLable of me then set the visiable of group spacer of me to false -- no difference yet else set the visiable of group spacer of me to true -- we found a difference end if end if end FillInData The above notes aside, have you considered inserting the blanks into your data grid data array? When generating the array just insert your blank rows and check for those rows in FillInData. It might be easier. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems LiveCode Resources for Developers: http://livecode.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Making Sense of Licenses
I'd like to re-iterate however, that we certainly never promised a year of updates with the Omega bundle. The only license type we sell that carries a year of updates is the Complete license. The Omegabundle included Pro 1 desktop and 1 mobile, which came to a $499 value (at the time). I don't think the Complete was in existence back in April, 2011. Each component of the Omegabundle was licensed according to whatever is the publisher norm. For example, Valentina ADK, Valentina Studio and Franklin 3D all include 12 months, because that's the only way those are sold. .com Solutions FmPro Migrator Platinum Edition has its own special form of licensing. You can see everything that was included here: http://www.omegabundle.com/news/95-omegabundle-2011-for-livecode-released There really isn't a norm any more in licensing, though I think contrary to what the experts say about product pricing strategy, many software companies price/license according to their costs rather than according to customer value. Subscription pricing (getting all updates during X amount of time) is attractive for many reasons - as a vendor, because it allows you to charge beyond the perceived base price. Customers perceive there's more value in this if there are many updates. Even very savvy customers such as LiveCode buyers - folks who know just how expensive / time consuming / difficult fixing and improving support for feature X in a dev tool - are as likely as any to think this way, even though its contrary to what they know as developers themselves. My point? Regardless of whatever pricing model makes sense for your business, we all still operate with some base expectations that may be contrary to our base understanding. The New York steak looks bigger than the fillet but that doesn't mean it's a tastier or more satisfying steak ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
In all fairness, I attended the summer academy and earned quite a few upgrades/deployment options for free and then they offered me a great deal on the gold option. If it were not for the buginess of the web deployment module and the incompleteness of the android deployment module, I would be far more satisfied than I am. I am just surprised by the version upgrade. I did not see it coming. It was a well kept secret and the time frame just does not seem that long since I opted for the gold edition. So, I am on the fence here. Do I upgrade or not. Fact is, I really like live code as a language. For that reason, I am unwilling to totally step away. Its just that I am severely low on funds, so upgrading ALL my deployment options is impossible for me. I fear that if I upgrade to 5.0 I will not be able to deploy to anything except pc and Mac unless I pony up the money for each deployment option a la carte. Believe me, if I could afford $800 per year, I would opt for the complete option. However, times are tough for everyone and I am simply not making the kind of money I wad just a year ago. I am at an empass. Everything I want to create is audio visual in nature and the new 5.0 seems to be going in that direction. Grr. Mike Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Mike, I agree. It would be nice to either know what to expect or get free updates for a reasonable amount of time. RealStudio offers 3 months of updates for free. That's reasonable and avoids unexpected surprises. Thus I didn't need to think long before buying my RealStudio license. When I paid for my Revolution Enterprise license in 2009, I got one single major update (4.0) two months after buying my license. I felt this was actually the version I had paid for, because I already had the previous version (3.5). I felt I was entitled to at least one more major update, because I had paid so much money. The next major update (4.5) was released right after my license expired, while I personally felt I had actually paid for that next update. That's very unpleasant and makes me feel I wasted my money (and that's a very friendly way to describe my feelings). Currently, I am trying to decide whether to buy 5.0, but it is very difficult, without information about what to expect, no free updates, no trial versions even (I got free trial versions for older versions and am grateful for those, but the trials only made me find essential bugs and I had to decide to wait). I kind of accidentally asked RunRev to help me solve this problem, but although I did get a few extra trial versions, it was to no avail. I asked RealStudio what they think. Although I'm not sure I should quote them, it seems they just can't imagine that the number of LiveCode trial versions is limited. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 14:36, Admin wrote: Heather, Oh. In every other program I have purchased, including software IDEs, it is almost always common to get a year (or more) of updates, so it was kind of assumed. For some reason, I thought I upgraded to complete, but you are right about me upgrading to Gold. I checked my purchases. Truth be told, I have not had Live Code that long and had no idea 5 was 'around the corner' considering how much I plunked down (although it was still a good deal). I would have waited if I knew that. I wish there was a product version cycle countdown timer or something. I mean, you went from 4.6 to 5. What happened to 4.7, 4.8 and 4.9 (lol). Mike On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 09:41:10 +0100, Heather Nagey wrote: I'm rather concerned about this. The Omega bundle did not include a year of updates, and if anyone told you it did, they were misinformed, and giving you incorrect advice. Can you point to where this information was provided? I've checked your license entitlement, and your upgrade was to the Gold bundle, with a very substantial discount applied due to the free platforms you earned during the Summer Academy. The Gold bundle does not carry an extended upgrade entitlement, only the Complete license offers this. Your upgrade was quite close to the cut off date for getting LiveCode 5 free however. If you email me in support directly we might come to some kind of arrangement. I'd like to re-iterate however, that we certainly never promised a year of updates with the Omega bundle. The only license type we sell that carries a year of updates is the Complete license. Regards, Heather ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage
RE: Making Sense of Licenses
Funny thing is, of all the goodies offered in the omega bundle, I bought it for live code, android and Franklin 3d. The SQL yoga seemed cool, but I have yet to use it. It was easier for me to just code the MySQL directly inside live code. It was all very straight forward and easy. But the price of the omega bundle, together with earning deployment options in the summer academy was just too enticing. I gave in and spent the money. However, for my troubles, I lost my main client due to the web deployment module simply not working. You can see why I am a bit jaded. Mike Lynn Fredricks lfredri...@proactive-intl.com wrote: I'd like to re-iterate however, that we certainly never promised a year of updates with the Omega bundle. The only license type we sell that carries a year of updates is the Complete license. The Omegabundle included Pro 1 desktop and 1 mobile, which came to a $499 value (at the time). I don't think the Complete was in existence back in April, 2011. Each component of the Omegabundle was licensed according to whatever is the publisher norm. For example, Valentina ADK, Valentina Studio and Franklin 3D all include 12 months, because that's the only way those are sold. .com Solutions FmPro Migrator Platinum Edition has its own special form of licensing. You can see everything that was included here: http://www.omegabundle.com/news/95-omegabundle-2011-for-livecode-released There really isn't a norm any more in licensing, though I think contrary to what the experts say about product pricing strategy, many software companies price/license according to their costs rather than according to customer value. Subscription pricing (getting all updates during X amount of time) is attractive for many reasons - as a vendor, because it allows you to charge beyond the perceived base price. Customers perceive there's more value in this if there are many updates. Even very savvy customers such as LiveCode buyers - folks who know just how expensive / time consuming / difficult fixing and improving support for feature X in a dev tool - are as likely as any to think this way, even though its contrary to what they know as developers themselves. My point? Regardless of whatever pricing model makes sense for your business, we all still operate with some base expectations that may be contrary to our base understanding. The New York steak looks bigger than the fillet but that doesn't mean it's a tastier or more satisfying steak ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Hi Mike, I think everybody got a good deal on the Gold edition, exactly because 5.0 was around the corner. Pay for 4.6, then pay again for 5.0 or pay extra for free updates. A very good deal always has a catch. Ultimately it doesn't matter much whether you accept a special offer or pay for a regular license, but regular licenses give you the freedom to wait a little longer before spending your money. My advice is: use the old version for making your stacks and buy a new version when you really need it, for example when you're ready to ship your project. There is no harm in skipping 12 months of payments, except that a new license may be more expensive than a renewal, but then you could decide to just wait another 6 months to balance that out. If your project takes a year to finish, you'll be happy that you waited, because now you can buy 5.1 or perhaps 6.0. 5.0 is going in some direction and 6.0 will be going in that direction a little more, making 5.0 obsolete, or maybe it'll go into a completely different direction, giving you another unpleasant surprise. Hard to tell. Don't let anyone force you to upgrade. Whenever I am in doubt, I keep the money in my pocket. I suggest you do the same. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 17:11, Mike Felker wrote: In all fairness, I attended the summer academy and earned quite a few upgrades/deployment options for free and then they offered me a great deal on the gold option. If it were not for the buginess of the web deployment module and the incompleteness of the android deployment module, I would be far more satisfied than I am. I am just surprised by the version upgrade. I did not see it coming. It was a well kept secret and the time frame just does not seem that long since I opted for the gold edition. So, I am on the fence here. Do I upgrade or not. Fact is, I really like live code as a language. For that reason, I am unwilling to totally step away. Its just that I am severely low on funds, so upgrading ALL my deployment options is impossible for me. I fear that if I upgrade to 5.0 I will not be able to deploy to anything except pc and Mac unless I pony up the money for each deployment option a la carte. Believe me, if I could afford $800 per year, I would opt for the complete option. However, times are tough for everyone and I am simply not making the kind of money I wad just a year ago. I am at an empass. Everything I want to create is audio visual in nature and the new 5.0 seems to be going in that direction. Grr. Mike ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Admin wrote: Oh. In every other program I have purchased, including software IDEs, it is almost always common to get a year (or more) of updates, so it was kind of assumed. For some reason, I thought I upgraded to complete, but you are right about me upgrading to Gold. I checked my purchases. Truth be told, I have not had Live Code that long and had no idea 5 was 'around the corner' considering how much I plunked down (although it was still a good deal). I would have waited if I knew that. I wish there was a product version cycle countdown timer or something. I mean, you went from 4.6 to 5. What happened to 4.7, 4.8 and 4.9 (lol). Why not just skip a version or two? If you wait a year before upgrading you'll get a year's worth of enhancements. I love using LiveCode, but ALL software I purchase here is evaluated in terms of how well it does the work I need to do today. I stopped automatically upgrading software many years ago, from all vendors, including Apple, Adobe, and even RunRev. I do generally stay current with LiveCode, but over the years I've skipped a version or two if it didn't solve a problem I couldn't solve with what I already had. No harm, no foul. Buy what you need and you'll always have what you need. Buy only what you need and you can enjoy a longer vacation. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Making Sense of Licenses
But the price of the omega bundle, together with earning deployment options in the summer academy was just too enticing. I gave in and spent the money. However, for my troubles, I lost my main client due to the web deployment module simply not working. You can see why I am a bit jaded. I can understand that frustration, especially nowadays when its really hard to get those good new contracts. I don't think I would have taken on a project using tools that I wasn't completely familiar with, unless the client was insistent on using that particular tool. I had a project hit a brick wall for similar reasons (NOT with LC, but with another product), though entirely on my own dime. What made it worse was that there was no hope for improvement, because the vendor insisted that there was an undocumented OS level limitation (that the vendor knew about, but did not document in their documentation). Since it was an OS limitation, they would not consider any workaround. That's to say, they could have resolved the limitation so that it worked exactly the same way on all deployments, but would not because of specifics of operating systems. To me, that was 100% contrary to the concept of build once, deploy everywhere. LC 5 is a really big upgrade - a key upgrade if you are deploying graphically rich apps to mobile. There's only so much they can do in a release, and as anyone who has used LC or RR for a long time will confirm, ungrading the underlying graphics architecture is a really big deal. I live in the world of databases more than anything and it excites me :-) Just to toss out an idea, and depending on your time commitments, you might consider starting with a useful desktop utility of some kind, or client based utility. Having multiple irons in the fire really help when contracts come and go. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Please email me in supp...@runrev.com and I can help you work out what you need. Regards, Heather On 20 Oct 2011, at 15:28, RevList wrote: It seems my original post was hijacked with the first response and no one answered my question. I need to know when my licenses expire and what it all means. Please point me in the right direction. Stewart I have to admit that I have not paid much attention to this lately so I may have missed something, and also, because my employer use to pay for my RunRev licenses, I didn't worry too much. Things have changed for me lately and it looks like if I want to continue developing using LiveCode, I am going to have to maintain the licensing costs myself. This is under Commercial License Options When I log in to my account, I see I have purchased LiveCode Development Tools Mobile Deployment: iOS Mobile Deployment: Android Mobile Deployment: Win 6.5 (Pre-Release) Beside the following, I am seeing Update Addon Desktop Deployment: Mac + Windows // $129 Desktop Deployment Linux // $129 Web Deployment // $99 And Buy addon for Server Deployment // $299 Livecode Box // $15 The last two make sense, never purchased. What does the second category mean? Does this mean that my license has expired, and if I want to be able to deply stand alone apps for Mac, Windows and Linux I have to pay? Is the Web Deployment the web plugin? How long is the license good for? How can I find out when the other licenses expire? Thanks in advance is someone can point me to where this is explained. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
I'm curious as to what happens if you do this. If I opt to not get my 5.0 upgrade, then when 6.0 comes out decide I want it, do I have to pay the 6.0 upgrade fee AND the 5.0 upgrade fee? I would guess yes otherwise I'd be getting the 5.0 fixes and enhancements for free. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: My advice is: use the old version for making your stacks and buy a new version when you really need it, for example when you're ready to ship your project. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
Hi Pete, You never know what future brings, but I believe you'd pay for a new license instead of a renewal. If you wait yet another year, you'd still pay the same price for 7.0, which means you get all 6.0 features for free, just like any new customer. In my case, I'd pay for 5.0 after having waited a long time and in the long term I'm not paying more than otherwise but I won't get anything for free either, because the previous big update was the 4.6 cycle, which I didn't buy, and I'd just have to pay a little more for 5.0 (I hope you can follow what I'm saying). However, I'm not going to buy the full package. I'm only going to pay for the components I really need and next year I will only update those components that I really need. This way, I expect to pay roughly 250 or 300 euro per year instead of 500 for the subscription deal. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 18:36, Pete wrote: I'm curious as to what happens if you do this. If I opt to not get my 5.0 upgrade, then when 6.0 comes out decide I want it, do I have to pay the 6.0 upgrade fee AND the 5.0 upgrade fee? I would guess yes otherwise I'd be getting the 5.0 fixes and enhancements for free. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Simulater No Sound
On 10/20/11 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: I am trying to play sound files in the iOS Simulater. But I am not getting any sound. When I build it and put it on an iPad the sound works fine. IS there a problem with sound and the simulator. Yes, and it took me ages to figure that out. The simulator just doesn't seem to work with sound. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Simulater No Sound
Do you have multiple audio devices connected to your system? If so, make sure both input and output audio settings are set for the same device. Todd's message confused me because I have an app that I recently updated which plays sound that I know was working fine. Sure enough, when I saw this message and went to test it, no sound! So a little digging turned up the fact the both input and output sound devices need to be set to the same device. Odd, but it's working here for me. Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:57 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 10/20/11 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: I am trying to play sound files in the iOS Simulater. But I am not getting any sound. When I build it and put it on an iPad the sound works fine. IS there a problem with sound and the simulator. Yes, and it took me ages to figure that out. The simulator just doesn't seem to work with sound. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS Simulater No Sound
Todd, Jacque... I find that sound plays in the iOS simulator. After reading your posts I quickly tried it with an mp3 file and found no problem. I used the 'copy files' pane to bring in the file on mouseUp put specialfolderpath(engine) /Do You Want To Know A Secret.mp3 into musicTrack play musicTrack end mouseUp and to stop... on mouseUp play empty end mouseUp be well, Dixie Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:57:16 -0500 From: jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: iOS Simulater No Sound On 10/20/11 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: I am trying to play sound files in the iOS Simulater. But I am not getting any sound. When I build it and put it on an iPad the sound works fine. IS there a problem with sound and the simulator. Yes, and it took me ages to figure that out. The simulator just doesn't seem to work with sound. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Simulater No Sound
Thanks very much for all your help! I will try out Scott's suggestion Todd On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:34 AM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Todd, Jacque... I find that sound plays in the iOS simulator. After reading your posts I quickly tried it with an mp3 file and found no problem. I used the 'copy files' pane to bring in the file on mouseUp put specialfolderpath(engine) /Do You Want To Know A Secret.mp3 into musicTrack play musicTrack end mouseUp and to stop... on mouseUp play empty end mouseUp be well, Dixie Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:57:16 -0500 From: jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: iOS Simulater No Sound On 10/20/11 12:28 PM, Todd Geist wrote: I am trying to play sound files in the iOS Simulater. But I am not getting any sound. When I build it and put it on an iPad the sound works fine. IS there a problem with sound and the simulator. Yes, and it took me ages to figure that out. The simulator just doesn't seem to work with sound. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Todd Geist geist interactive (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Can I hide/encode FTP name and password?
Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William -- groeten, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Transparent window example?
Hi Again, Is there a way to set a stack to a blendlevel of say 75, but keep an object (such as a button) at a blendlevel of 0? That is, a somewhat transparent window, but a solid button/control on the transparent window? I have played around with it, but the object seems to inherit the blendlevel of the stack... Even when setting an object's blendlevel to 0. Thanks, - Boo -Original Message- From: Klaus on-rev Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:08 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Hi Keith, Am 19.10.2011 um 12:25 schrieb Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab): Hi All, Would anyone be able to provide an example of how to make a transparent window that is resizable? To clarify, a window that looks like a see-through box. The borders of the window need to be visible, and the window needs to be resizable accordingly, but the user needs to be able to see the desktop through the window... just: ... set the blendlevel of stack X to Y ## where Y = 0 - 100 ... This will only affect the transparency of that stack, everthing else like resizable is NOT affected! Check blendlevel in the dictionary, it's definitivley no rocket science :-) Thanks, - Boo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Transparent window example?
On 10/20/2011 10:27 PM, Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab) wrote: Hi Again, Is there a way to set a stack to a blendlevel of say 75, but keep an object (such as a button) at a blendlevel of 0? That is, a somewhat transparent window, but a solid button/control on the transparent window? 'fraid so! blendLevel is strictly inherited; the only way you will manage wgat you want is by using windowShape for your stack and setting the blendLevel of your object. The only snag about this is that I think you will be quite unable to have a semi-transparent stack. I have played around with it, but the object seems to inherit the blendlevel of the stack... Even when setting an object's blendlevel to 0. Thanks, - Boo -Original Message- From: Klaus on-rev Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:08 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Hi Keith, Am 19.10.2011 um 12:25 schrieb Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab): Hi All, Would anyone be able to provide an example of how to make a transparent window that is resizable? To clarify, a window that looks like a see-through box. The borders of the window need to be visible, and the window needs to be resizable accordingly, but the user needs to be able to see the desktop through the window... just: ... set the blendlevel of stack X to Y ## where Y = 0 - 100 ... This will only affect the transparency of that stack, everthing else like resizable is NOT affected! Check blendlevel in the dictionary, it's definitivley no rocket science :-) Thanks, - Boo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Help tracking down a shell problem
Posted this a couple of days ago and have also been working with LC support on it but no joy. If you have a few minutes and are on a Mac, could you execute the following code and let me know the results: *put* line 1 of shell(defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLocale) into $LANG *put* uniDecode(uniEncode(shell(locale -k LC_NUMERIC), utf8)) I'm getting different results in LC than executing the same shell commands in Terminal. I get: decimal_point=. thousands_sep= grouping=0 If I execute the same locale command in Terminal, the output looks like: decimal_point=. thousands_sep=, grouping=3;3 If you could let me know the OS X and LC versions too, that would be great. I'm on OS X 10.6.8 and LC 4.6.3 Thanks, Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Transparent window example?
Keith... Have a look at this, I think it might help... http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/advanced-inks-windows/ Dixie From: ke...@gulfbreezeortholab.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:27:44 -0500 Hi Again, Is there a way to set a stack to a blendlevel of say 75, but keep an object (such as a button) at a blendlevel of 0? That is, a somewhat transparent window, but a solid button/control on the transparent window? I have played around with it, but the object seems to inherit the blendlevel of the stack... Even when setting an object's blendlevel to 0. Thanks, - Boo -Original Message- From: Klaus on-rev Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:08 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Hi Keith, Am 19.10.2011 um 12:25 schrieb Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab): Hi All, Would anyone be able to provide an example of how to make a transparent window that is resizable? To clarify, a window that looks like a see-through box. The borders of the window need to be visible, and the window needs to be resizable accordingly, but the user needs to be able to see the desktop through the window... just: ... set the blendlevel of stack X to Y ## where Y = 0 - 100 ... This will only affect the transparency of that stack, everthing else like resizable is NOT affected! Check blendlevel in the dictionary, it's definitivley no rocket science :-) Thanks, - Boo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS video grabbing external
Well, I guess that means nobody is interested :( On Wednesday, October 19, 2011, Maarten Koopmans maarten.koopm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Has anybody made a grab video external for iOS, and if so, could you contact me off-list on sharing/pricing? I saw that I can take pictures, but sometines short movies are very cool as well. Cheers, Maarten ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Hi Pete, I get decimal_point=, thousands_sep= grouping=127 and it is the same in the terminal and in Revolution 4.0 running on Mac OS X 10.6.8. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 22:02, Pete wrote: Posted this a couple of days ago and have also been working with LC support on it but no joy. If you have a few minutes and are on a Mac, could you execute the following code and let me know the results: *put* line 1 of shell(defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLocale) into $LANG *put* uniDecode(uniEncode(shell(locale -k LC_NUMERIC), utf8)) I'm getting different results in LC than executing the same shell commands in Terminal. I get: decimal_point=. thousands_sep= grouping=0 If I execute the same locale command in Terminal, the output looks like: decimal_point=. thousands_sep=, grouping=3;3 If you could let me know the OS X and LC versions too, that would be great. I'm on OS X 10.6.8 and LC 4.6.3 Thanks, Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Pete, The terminal and the shell command are different beasts. On your mac, you can check some hidden files: .profile .bash_profile .bashrc For example, my .profile changes my locale $LANG var. I think that .profile always load but .bash_profile and .bashrc only loads then you launch a terminal, but I am guessing. Its been a while since I last played this kind of game. Anyway, the shell() executes stuff in Mac OS X graphical land, the terminal is different. For example, IIRC applescript is not available when the old engine was running on the terminal but was available if you shell(). Its the little things... On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Posted this a couple of days ago and have also been working with LC support on it but no joy. If you have a few minutes and are on a Mac, could you execute the following code and let me know the results: *put* line 1 of shell(defaults read .GlobalPreferences AppleLocale) into $LANG *put* uniDecode(uniEncode(shell(locale -k LC_NUMERIC), utf8)) I'm getting different results in LC than executing the same shell commands in Terminal. I get: decimal_point=. thousands_sep= grouping=0 If I execute the same locale command in Terminal, the output looks like: decimal_point=. thousands_sep=, grouping=3;3 If you could let me know the OS X and LC versions too, that would be great. I'm on OS X 10.6.8 and LC 4.6.3 Thanks, Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Resizable DataGrid Question
I have made all of your suggested changes and have verified that tIndex has no value. This seems really odd to me. The reason that I was taking this approach was to accommodate my intention of building the array for the data grid only once then using the following to create different sortings: dispatch SortDataByKey to group contacts_grid with \ theKey, theSortType, theDirection, isCaseSensitive Since I was not able to solve the index problem, I have since abandoned this approach and am now sorting the data before building the dgData. I am also injecting special data into the dgData and both you and Pete suggested. Thanks very much for your help. -= Mike -Original Message- From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Trevor DeVore Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:59 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Resizable DataGrid Question On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Mike Doub m...@doub.com wrote: on FillInData pDataArray set the text of field Name of me to pDataArray[LastName] \ comma space pDataArray[FirstName] space pDataArray[MiddleName] put char 1 of fld Name of me into field spacerLable of me put the dgControl of me into theGrid put the dgIndex of me into tIndex This line is correct. You have verified that tIndex has no value? -- get the index of the current grid item put the dgIndexes of me into tList The above line should really read put the dgIndexes of theGrid into tList. I think your syntax probably works though as dgIndexes is defined as a setProp in the data grid library script. -- get list of grid indexes in display order put itemoffset(tIndex,tList) into toff You should set the wholeMatches to true before executing the above line. --find the current index in the ordered list put item (toff -1) of tList into tpreIndex -- get the index of the previous grid item if tpreIndex = 0 then set the visiable of group spacer of me to true -- we are the first grid item, so show the spacer else put the dgDataOfIndex[tpreIndex] of me into preData -- get the data for the previous grid item The above line should be targeting the data grid. put the dgDataOfIndex[tPreIndex] of theGrid if char 1 of preData[LastName] = field spacerLable of me then set the visiable of group spacer of me to false -- no difference yet else set the visiable of group spacer of me to true -- we found a difference end if end if end FillInData The above notes aside, have you considered inserting the blanks into your data grid data array? When generating the array just insert your blank rows and check for those rows in FillInData. It might be easier. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems LiveCode Resources for Developers: http://livecode.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: libUrlDownloadToFile
Hi, Use delete URL to cancel FTP downloads. You can have multiple connections to different servers. I don't think you can have multiple connections to the same server. I tried this a long time ago and the downloads waited for each other, causing them to finish one after another instead of simultaneously. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 22:29, ddas wrote: Howdy, Is it possible to: send exit to libUrlDownloadToFile tDownloadLink, tPathToLocalFile To stop a download I mean. And Is it possible to open multiple connections? Thanks, Debdoot On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William -- groeten, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can I hide/encode FTP name and password?
Hi William, I am no expert but I might have a simple solution for you. 1) Signup on Amazon s3 2) create a bucket 3) upload a file 4) Use S3Fox(Firefox Addon) to make an encoded to the file(time limited link). 5) Use https url to connect to your file That might do it. Please feel free to update me with better methods. Thanks, Debdoot PS: HTTPS Is Vulnerable To Crypto Attack http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/vulnerabilities/231601759 On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William -- groeten, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Transparent window example?
Thanks Dixie! Just what I was looking for! I really, really appreciate it! Cheers from Florida, - Boo -Original Message- From: John Dixon Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:05 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: RE: Transparent window example? Keith... Have a look at this, I think it might help... http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/advanced-inks-windows/ Dixie From: ke...@gulfbreezeortholab.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:27:44 -0500 Hi Again, Is there a way to set a stack to a blendlevel of say 75, but keep an object (such as a button) at a blendlevel of 0? That is, a somewhat transparent window, but a solid button/control on the transparent window? I have played around with it, but the object seems to inherit the blendlevel of the stack... Even when setting an object's blendlevel to 0. Thanks, - Boo -Original Message- From: Klaus on-rev Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:08 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Transparent window example? Hi Keith, Am 19.10.2011 um 12:25 schrieb Keith (Gulf Breeze Ortho Lab): Hi All, Would anyone be able to provide an example of how to make a transparent window that is resizable? To clarify, a window that looks like a see-through box. The borders of the window need to be visible, and the window needs to be resizable accordingly, but the user needs to be able to see the desktop through the window... just: ... set the blendlevel of stack X to Y ## where Y = 0 - 100 ... This will only affect the transparency of that stack, everthing else like resizable is NOT affected! Check blendlevel in the dictionary, it's definitivley no rocket science :-) Thanks, - Boo Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: libUrlDownloadToFile
Thanks Mark. Few more related questions. What happens to the partially downloaded file. Does that linger? Does it resume from where it left off of does it start from the beginning again? Thanks, Debdoot On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Use delete URL to cancel FTP downloads. You can have multiple connections to different servers. I don't think you can have multiple connections to the same server. I tried this a long time ago and the downloads waited for each other, causing them to finish one after another instead of simultaneously. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 22:29, ddas wrote: Howdy, Is it possible to: send exit to libUrlDownloadToFile tDownloadLink, tPathToLocalFile To stop a download I mean. And Is it possible to open multiple connections? Thanks, Debdoot On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William -- groeten, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: libUrlDownloadToFile
Debdoot, I am not sure. If you want, you can always check whether the file exists afterwards and delete it if necessary. I believe that the file always starts downloading from the beginning. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 23:00, ddas wrote: Thanks Mark. Few more related questions. What happens to the partially downloaded file. Does that linger? Does it resume from where it left off of does it start from the beginning again? Thanks, Debdoot ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: libUrlDownloadToFile
Oops. Figured it out. Thanks again. On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:00 PM, ddas wrote: Thanks Mark. Few more related questions. What happens to the partially downloaded file. Does that linger? Does it resume from where it left off of does it start from the beginning again? Thanks, Debdoot On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Use delete URL to cancel FTP downloads. You can have multiple connections to different servers. I don't think you can have multiple connections to the same server. I tried this a long time ago and the downloads waited for each other, causing them to finish one after another instead of simultaneously. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 22:29, ddas wrote: Howdy, Is it possible to: send exit to libUrlDownloadToFile tDownloadLink, tPathToLocalFile To stop a download I mean. And Is it possible to open multiple connections? Thanks, Debdoot On Oct 20, 2011, at 2:42 PM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William -- groeten, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Thanks for the quick responses everyone. I should probably explain that I'm trying to set initial values for some application preferences, which the user can then change if necessary, so this is not a show stopper, just something that would be nice to do. Andre - I'll check out the files you mentioned, maybe that will reveal the problem. I do know that if I answer $LANG after the first line of the script, I get en_US_POSIX but if I look at $LANG in Terminal, it is set to en_US.UTF-8, so clearly something is different. Warren - I think you're probably right. I do have an Applescript that plows through the com.apple.systempreferences.plist file to look for user settings from the System Preferences and overwrite whatever I get from the shell scrip. What really confuses shows up more in some of the other LC_xxx commands which in LC often come back with 127 listed as the values for various settings (I see Mark got that too). I don't understand what the significance of 127 is. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.uswrote: On 10/20/2011 03:12 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Pete, The terminal and the shell command are different beasts. On your mac, you can check some hidden files: .profile .bash_profile .bashrc For example, my .profile changes my locale $LANG var. I think that .profile always load but .bash_profile and .bashrc only loads then you launch a terminal, but I am guessing. Its been a while since I last played this kind of game. Anyway, the shell() executes stuff in Mac OS X graphical land, the terminal is different. For example, IIRC applescript is not available when the old engine was running on the terminal but was available if you shell(). Its the little things... To expand (in a speculative manner!) on Andre's response, it seems probable that you are running into the difference between the System defaults and your User defaults. This is a little bit of a quagmire, but something that has been discussed here more than once in the past. Good Luck! Warren __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Hi Andre, Where are these files located? If I just run Terminal, I'm in my home group but more doesn't find any of them. Sorry, not much knowledge of Unix! Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: Pete, The terminal and the shell command are different beasts. On your mac, you can check some hidden files: .profile .bash_profile .bashrc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can I hide/encode FTP name and password?
I have used ftp within a Live Code program, hard coding username and password, with no problem. Choose to encrypt the code (isn't that an option?) on compiling. Mike On Thu, 20 Oct 2011 20:42:26 +0200, William de Smet wrote: Hi there, In my new app I need to use a FTP name and password. What is the best way to do this? Is there a way to hide or encode these? Greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Simulater No Sound
On 10/20/11 1:34 PM, John Dixon wrote: Todd, Jacque... I find that sound plays in the iOS simulator. It was fuzzy brain syndrome (been ill for a couple of days.) What I should have said was that in older versions of the simulator (3.2), there was no sound. In 4.2 sound is okay. So the correct question to ask should have been: what version of the simulator are you using? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: download maintenance upgrade??
On 10/20/11 3:40 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Hi, A few weeks ago, I installed LC 5.0 for the Mac desktop. Seems to work okay. If it has new features, I haven't discovered them yet. I've gotten notifications about a maintenance upgrade. 5.0.1 or something like that. I follow the links, but can't find a link to download the upgrade. Frustration. Please clue me. The latest version is always in your store account. Log in to download. I just checked and 5.0.1 is there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Pete- Thursday, October 20, 2011, 1:02:53 PM, you wrote: If you could let me know the OS X and LC versions too, that would be great. I'm on OS X 10.6.8 and LC 4.6.3 If it helps any (it probably doesn't) on Fedora Core 15 I get exactly the same results whether I do this from the message box or from the shell() results. And it doesn't matter whether or not I'm root. decimal_point=. thousands_sep=, grouping=3,3 numeric-decimal-point-wc=46 numeric-thousands-sep-wc=44 numeric-codeset=UTF-8 -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Pete- Thursday, October 20, 2011, 2:22:55 PM, you wrote: Hi Andre, Where are these files located? If I just run Terminal, I'm in my home group but more doesn't find any of them. Sorry, not much knowledge of Unix! type ls -al in a terminal window and it'll display the hidden files -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Simulater No Sound
I was trying to with 4.2, 4.3, and 5.0 none of them were working. But I haven't tried Scott's suggestion, yet. That may have been it. Todd On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 3:52 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 10/20/11 1:34 PM, John Dixon wrote: Todd, Jacque... I find that sound plays in the iOS simulator. It was fuzzy brain syndrome (been ill for a couple of days.) What I should have said was that in older versions of the simulator (3.2), there was no sound. In 4.2 sound is okay. So the correct question to ask should have been: what version of the simulator are you using? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Todd Geist geist interactive (805) 419-9382 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Help tracking down a shell problem
Thanks Mark. None of the files Andre mentioned show up with this command, lots of other .xxx files though. The fact that you get back sensible results when using shell in LC makes me think this has something to do with shell commands on OS X, especially that weird 127 thing. Hopefully the support guys will figure it out because I've pretty much given up! Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Pete- Thursday, October 20, 2011, 2:22:55 PM, you wrote: Hi Andre, Where are these files located? If I just run Terminal, I'm in my home group but more doesn't find any of them. Sorry, not much knowledge of Unix! type ls -al in a terminal window and it'll display the hidden files -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: download maintenance upgrade??
I'm on: http://www.runrev.com/store/account/products/ I'm logged in. I see seat 1 I see my name I see a popup button labeled version I see 5.0.0 What am I doing wrong? Tim On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/20/11 3:40 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: Hi, A few weeks ago, I installed LC 5.0 for the Mac desktop. Seems to work okay. If it has new features, I haven't discovered them yet. I've gotten notifications about a maintenance upgrade. 5.0.1 or something like that. I follow the links, but can't find a link to download the upgrade. Frustration. Please clue me. The latest version is always in your store account. Log in to download. I just checked and 5.0.1 is there. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Anyone using LC 5 and GLX2 on Mac?
Matthias- Download the latest. I couldn't quite replicate your problems, but I found something similar and fixed it. If this works out for you, I'll make a more generic announcement about the new version. https://bitbucket.org/mwieder/glx2/downloads -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Was New rendering test or something like that
Hi Jim, James Hurley wrote: [snip] from Alejandro I have been introduced to the beautiful mathematics behind the Bezier curve and the utility of ExportToIllustrator (I can't imagine what must have gone into that) Actually, I have make that question myself. If some of you take notice, some versions of these experiments were created or last saved after midnight... at an hour where I should be sleeping, instead of coding!!! More so, after a whole day of tiring work... The only possible answer is a personal fulfillment of my curiosity. In the case of beziers, it was my quest to see if it was true that in the screen, these curves are actually a series of straight lines. (Yes, they are, but when I first encounter them in 1988, I though that they were just a continuous line of dots) After the bezier code produced a line, my curiosity shifted towards the question: How could this line be actually useful? The answer was Importing and Exporting them as vector graphics. :-D James Hurley wrote: Not only is this list the source of wisdom but it may be the most civilized list in the computer world. And with so many who have a right to a considerable ego. Astonishing. It is so easy to be misinterpreted in communication without accompanying body language. There are about 45 muscles in the human face, most for the purpose to presenting emotion. How many emoticons are their? Yes, this is my appreciation too. James Hurley wrote: So, though 80, I am unwilling to accept Job's tribute to death as the single best invention of life. That's a hard sell. To me, as I believe it was to Jobs, the best part of life is the pursuit of goals that excite. (As an aside, when I retired from teaching and research, I moved to the foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains and built my own house. Every bit. By myself. I am so proud. The worst part was being finished.) But I digress. Needless to say, I deeply appreciate being well thought of. Thank you. I wholeheartly agree. A passion that drives and a goal that inspire. That's what keep the world rolling. I want to build my own house in the future, but it would be a Dome that does not leak! :-D Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Was-New-rendering-test-or-something-like-that-tp3921890p3924005.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: download maintenance upgrade??
On 10/20/11 7:56 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: I'm on: http://www.runrev.com/store/account/products/ I'm logged in. I see seat 1 I see my name I see a popup button labeled version I see 5.0.0 What am I doing wrong? It might be a server thing. Best to write supp...@runrev.com and see if they can fix it. You may be a victim of circumstance. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: download maintenance upgrade??
Tim, it just occured to me that you may not be in the dev program. The 5.0.1 release is a pre-release for those members. If you aren't in the dev program, I'm not sure how you saw an announcement. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Question regarding K12 Education pricing...
John, My department killed off my class a good seven years ago, but they were always very accommodating in terms of lab pack licenses as well as arranging good student purchase pricing. Contact them off-list. Oh, and as for financially-struggling schools, well, is there any other kind? Judy On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:06 PM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: Hello RunRev… Is the K12 information up on the run rev FAQ page up to date? http://www.runrev.com/support/faq/ $99 for educators? The $25 a seat (min 25 seats), and the student coupon for $25 for their use at home, that is included with the classroom seat package? Finally the scholarship program for finically struggling schools, still valid? Thank you! John Patten SUSD ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: download maintenance upgrade??
Hi Jacque, True. I'm not in the dev program. The announcement showed up as some kind of alert when I launched LiveCode 5.0. Somebody at LiveCode goofed I guess. Tim On Oct 20, 2011, at 7:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Tim, it just occured to me that you may not be in the dev program. The 5.0.1 release is a pre-release for those members. If you aren't in the dev program, I'm not sure how you saw an announcement. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Making Sense of Licenses
...precisely why I renewed, because upgrade fees per component are not too much compared with a new license. But, I have the dev program too, so far worth the money, especially if you're doing mobile. LC has a much more agressive release cycle these dats, with smaller improvement coming faster in dot or dot-dot releases. Personally, I kept my licenses up to date because it was not too expensive, especially with the recently more agile release cycle. And FWIW: RunRev does pay attention to the needs (e.g. enhancements) of those opting in for the dev program. All in all, the last 6 months have been a pleasant experience - I think you can see commitment from Heather's reactions as well. --Maarten On Thursday, October 20, 2011, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Thanks Mark. As you say, can't predict the future but good to know what the current situation is, I guess the question should really be addressed to Heather. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Pete, You never know what future brings, but I believe you'd pay for a new license instead of a renewal. If you wait yet another year, you'd still pay the same price for 7.0, which means you get all 6.0 features for free, just like any new customer. In my case, I'd pay for 5.0 after having waited a long time and in the long term I'm not paying more than otherwise but I won't get anything for free either, because the previous big update was the 4.6 cycle, which I didn't buy, and I'd just have to pay a little more for 5.0 (I hope you can follow what I'm saying). However, I'm not going to buy the full package. I'm only going to pay for the components I really need and next year I will only update those components that I really need. This way, I expect to pay roughly 250 or 300 euro per year instead of 500 for the subscription deal. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 See what you get with only a small contribution. All our LiveCode downloads are listed at http://qery.us/zr On 20 okt 2011, at 18:36, Pete wrote: I'm curious as to what happens if you do this. If I opt to not get my 5.0 upgrade, then when 6.0 comes out decide I want it, do I have to pay the 6.0 upgrade fee AND the 5.0 upgrade fee? I would guess yes otherwise I'd be getting the 5.0 fixes and enhancements for free. Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Rotate a field?
Is there a way to rotate a field without making it offscreen, taking a snapshot of it, and then rotating the resulting image? The field doesn't have to be editable. I just want to display the contents? Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
