Re: Prototyping

[kdjanz]

Bump

Mike - what is your work flow from Keynotopia to LiveCode? Just a cut and
paste of the graphics? What about the complex items like the Calendar etc?

Thanks for the insight,

Kelly

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Re: "Redraws will be flushed" translation

[J. Landman Gay]

On 1/29/12 11:47 PM, Rick Harrison wrote:

I think perhaps this could be referring to garbage collection.


On 1/30/12 12:30 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote:

Or, maybe, "Redraw has occurred, so any redraws in the pending
messages can and will be flushed."


I see, these make sense. How does that change the behavior from before? 
When the screen is locked, redraws have never occured until either the 
screen is unlocked or all pending handlers have finished. The notes seem 
to say the same thing, so I'm not sure how this new method changes things.


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Re: "Redraws will be flushed" translation

[Dick Kriesel]

On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:23 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> Geek-speak in the 5.0.2 release notes say that "redraws will be flushed" at 
> various times. I assume this means "redraws will occur"?
> 

Or, maybe, "Redraw has occurred, so any redraws in the pending messages can and 
will be flushed."

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Re: "Redraws will be flushed" translation

[Rick Harrison]

Hi Jacqueline,

I think perhaps this could be referring to garbage collection.
That's a geeky guess.  ;-)

Cheers,

Rick

On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:23 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> Geek-speak in the 5.0.2 release notes say that "redraws will be flushed" at 
> various times. I assume this means "redraws will occur"?
> 
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"Redraws will be flushed" translation

[J. Landman Gay]

Geek-speak in the 5.0.2 release notes say that "redraws will be flushed" 
at various times. I assume this means "redraws will occur"?


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RE: Falling at the last fence...

[John Dixon]

Andy, Ken, Mark ... (and Bernd for taking pity on me...)

Thanks for the replies.. Andy, I am not running Lion, I am still on 10.6.8... 
Ken, I had a look at AppResigner and tried it, but the errors that it threw at 
me confused me even more...:-) I cannot now say what went wrong or what 
happened, all that I can tell you is that I spent more than 6 hours trying to 
sort it all out... the chaos descended into problems with the keychain and with 
xCode... it got to the point where the binary would not even load onto the 
iphone... the eventual solution was to clear 'everything' out of the keychain 
that was iOS related, dumped 'everything' out from xCode and started the whole 
business from scratch through the Apple Developer website...

But a big 'shout' for John Craig who kept me calm and managed to talk me out of 
throwing my Mac out into the rain, paitently helping me through the problem... 
(My God!.. 'Skype' is marvelous, I can't imagine how I ever survived in the 
past without it)... but on a serious note, I would just like to say that 
'Apple' have made a complete 'bollocks' of uploading apps onto a device never 
mind trying to get it to their 'review team'...

take care... 

Dixie.

>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, John Dixon wrote:
>>I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
>>but when I try and use the Application Loader to >>upload, I get a message ' 
>>Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
>>was not signed with an iPhone >>distribution Certificate'...

>>I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
>>keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so >>assume that something 
>>is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
>>that might have some insight >>into this problem ?

> Try AppResigner… it has helped me in the past for "no code signature found" 
> errors - maybe it will work for you:
> http://www.gorbster.net/blog/archives/273 
> Ken Ray
  
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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Andrew Henshaw]

Sorry about that,  back to a computer with a power supply now!

Assuming this isnt a simpler certificate issue,  and you have installed xCode 
3.2.x on Lion then this might help.

Apparently 3.2.6 overwrites the productutil app,  which is part of the 
submission process.

To fix it (is this is the case),  locate your Lion installer package (mine is 
in Applications),  right click and select show package contents.

Now,  select contents,  the shared support,  and double click on InstallESD.dmg 
to mount that.

Once you have that,  open the virtual drive,  select packages,   then double 
click on BSD.pkg.

This fixed the problem caused by the installation of 3.2.x on my system,  you 
can then reboot, go back into Livecode,  sign the app and send it off,  fingers 
crossed!

I hope this helps!

Andy


On 29 Jan 2012, at 18:07, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> 
> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> that might have some insight into this problem ?
> 
> Dixie
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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Andrew Henshaw]

It might be a long shot,  but I had an issue with a machine upgraded from OS X 
Snow Leopard to Lion,  where xCode 3.x was installed on Snow Leopard,  then 
upgraded to 4.x on Lion.

It threw an error whenever I used the loader to send the app to Apple,  just as 
you describe.  

Im just about to run out of battery (and away from my charger!),  but if this 
might be the issue let me know and Ill see if I can dig out the fix details,  I 
had to dig into the Lion installer package and run something,  then everything 
worked as it should.

Andy




On 29 Jan 2012, at 18:07, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> 
> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> that might have some insight into this problem ?
> 
> Dixie
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Re: Looking for a "wait until x or timeout" design pattern..

[Ken Corey]

Now *that* is exactly what I needed. Should be required reading.

Why didn't runrev hire this guy to write more of their manuals in this 
style?


Thanks muchly!

-Ken

On 29/01/2012 19:51, stephen barncard wrote:

you should check out Dar Scott's primers on Message Mechanics.

Visually and technically informative.

http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html



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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Ken Ray]

On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> 
> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> that might have some insight into this problem ?

Try AppResigner… it has helped me in the past for "no code signature found" 
errors - maybe it will work for you:

http://www.gorbster.net/blog/archives/273

Ken Ray
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Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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This maintenance update to Quartam PDF Library fixes a bug with multiple images 
in a single PDF document.
The cross-platform .zip archive can be downloaded at: 
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Re: Looking for a "wait until x or timeout" design pattern..

[stephen barncard]

you should check out Dar Scott's primers on Message Mechanics.

Visually and technically informative.

http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html

On 29 January 2012 11:38, Ken Corey  wrote:

> Here's the basic idea of the code I needed.
>
> the touchMove event arrives in no particular order, and in no particular
> time.
>
> If you absolutely have to have a timeout, you can't just test for a
> timestamp on the next run of touchMove, because there might not be another
> touchMove.
>
> I'm not quite clear on what the "wait 50 milliseconds with messages"
> command does.  Is that a more succinct way of putting it?
>
> -Ken
>
>
> ---8<-**--
> -- Semaphore handling for touch movements
> --
> -- This code is meant to be used to group random events that
> -- happen in a timeframe, group them together, and take action
> -- on those events as a whole.
> --
> -- User input is pseudo-random, and we therefore cannot count on
> -- events coming in a particular order, or even coming at all.
> --
> -- I use code similar to this to group several distinct user inputs and
> -- deal with several at a time.  If no more events come within the
> -- delay period, we fire the handler.
> --
> -- This isn't perfect, as there doesn't seem to be a way to cancel a
> -- pending send...so we guard against the send happening in
> -- performAction.
> --
> -- What this means is that the delay (50 milliseconds below) must
> -- be chosen carefully so that there's only one group of data waiting
> -- to be processed.
> --
> -- If the touchMove event happens but is delayed, and another
> -- touchMove event with immediate execution happens within the
> -- timeout period, the second touchMove event clears the sSemaphore,
> -- so then the delayed performAction from the first touchMove event
> -- is ignored.
> --
>
> local sDetails,sSemaphore
>
> on touchMove pID,pX,pY
>   -- check to see if we've dealt with pID before
>   if pID is in the keys of sSemaphore then
>  -- have seen it before so take action immediately
>  put (pX&comma&pY) into sSemaphore[pID]
>  send "performAction "&pID&","&pX&","&pY
>   else
>  -- haven't seen it, only do it after a delay
>  put (pX&comma&pY) into sSemaphore[pID]
>  send "performAction "&pID&","&pX&","&pY to me in 50 milliseconds
>   end if
> end touchMove
>
> on performAction
>   -- check to see if it's already been handled.
>   if the number of lines in the keys of sSemaphore > 0 then
>  -- nope, let's get busy
>
>  -- code to deal with the data
>
>  delete variable sSemaphore
>   end if
> end performAction
>
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Re: Looking for a "wait until x or timeout" design pattern..

[Ken Corey]

Here's the basic idea of the code I needed.

the touchMove event arrives in no particular order, and in no particular 
time.


If you absolutely have to have a timeout, you can't just test for a 
timestamp on the next run of touchMove, because there might not be 
another touchMove.


I'm not quite clear on what the "wait 50 milliseconds with messages" 
command does.  Is that a more succinct way of putting it?


-Ken


---8<---
-- Semaphore handling for touch movements
--
-- This code is meant to be used to group random events that
-- happen in a timeframe, group them together, and take action
-- on those events as a whole.
--
-- User input is pseudo-random, and we therefore cannot count on
-- events coming in a particular order, or even coming at all.
--
-- I use code similar to this to group several distinct user inputs and
-- deal with several at a time.  If no more events come within the
-- delay period, we fire the handler.
--
-- This isn't perfect, as there doesn't seem to be a way to cancel a
-- pending send...so we guard against the send happening in
-- performAction.
--
-- What this means is that the delay (50 milliseconds below) must
-- be chosen carefully so that there's only one group of data waiting
-- to be processed.
--
-- If the touchMove event happens but is delayed, and another
-- touchMove event with immediate execution happens within the
-- timeout period, the second touchMove event clears the sSemaphore,
-- so then the delayed performAction from the first touchMove event
-- is ignored.
--

local sDetails,sSemaphore

on touchMove pID,pX,pY
   -- check to see if we've dealt with pID before
   if pID is in the keys of sSemaphore then
  -- have seen it before so take action immediately
  put (pX&comma&pY) into sSemaphore[pID]
  send "performAction "&pID&","&pX&","&pY
   else
  -- haven't seen it, only do it after a delay
  put (pX&comma&pY) into sSemaphore[pID]
  send "performAction "&pID&","&pX&","&pY to me in 50 milliseconds
   end if
end touchMove

on performAction
   -- check to see if it's already been handled.
   if the number of lines in the keys of sSemaphore > 0 then
  -- nope, let's get busy

  -- code to deal with the data

  delete variable sSemaphore
   end if
end performAction


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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Dixie,

I am pretty sure that something is wrong with your profile(s). You should have 
at least two provision profiles: a developer provisioning profile and a 
distribution provisioning profile. There are two different distribution 
provisioning profiles: one for ad-hoc distribution and one for the iTunes 
store. Additionally, you need an application disribution profile for your app 
that is not connected to the developers provisioning profile but to the other, 
iTunes store distribution provisioning profile. Yeah, I can imagine that 
reading Apple's documentation once isn't enough ;-)

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On 29 jan 2012, at 19:47, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
> A screenshot is with a posting of the same title as this topic in the 
> forum... I am using lc 5.0.2... I only have the one distribution profile...
> 
> Dixie..:-)
> 



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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Randy Hengst]

As far as I know, you need at least two profiles… a provisioning profile that 
allows you to load your app on your iPad/iPod. And a second one that allows you 
to send to Apple. 

be well,
randy

On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:47 PM, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
> A screenshot is with a posting of the same title as this topic in the 
> forum... I am using lc 5.0.2... I only have the one distribution profile...
> 
> Dixie..:-)
> 
> 
>> Hi Dixie,
>> Can you put up a screenshot of the error somewhere?
>> Which version of LC are you using?
>> Have you selected the correct application distribution profile in the 
>> standalone settings?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Mark Schonewille
>> 
>> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
>> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>> KvK: 50277553
>> 
>> Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za
>> 
>> On 29 jan 2012, at 19:07, John Dixon wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
>>> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
>>> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
>>> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
>>> 
>>> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
>>> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
>>> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
>>> that might have some insight into this problem ?
>>> 
>>> Dixie
>> 
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Re: Questions about screen and stack rectangle

[Pete]

Thanks Phil, I'll check it out.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Phil Davis  wrote:

> Pete,
>
> Check out the windowBoundingRect - that might help.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> On 1/28/12 1:15 PM, Pete wrote:
>
>> I'm in the midst of dealing with adjusting stack sizes to fit within the
>> user's screen resolution.  I guess I'm looking for confirmation of a few
>> things since I've made assumptions in the past that turned out to be
>> wrong!
>>
>> Starting with the screenRect.  Dictionary says the working screenRect
>> takes
>> account of screen decorations.  On a Mac, looks like that means the system
>> menu bar at the top of the screen (22 pixels).  It also mentions the dock,
>> but unless the dock is specified to be permanently visible it only allows
>> 4
>> pixels for it.  If the dock is always visible, then it does seem to take
>> that into account.
>>
>> Next I'm looking at the rectangle of a stack. Once again taking the
>> dictionary definition, it says a stack's rectangle is relative to the top
>> and left of the screen.  However, if I create a stack that is the full
>> height of the screen, with it's top aligned with the bottom of the Mac
>> system menu bar, the top of the stack  is reported to be 44, whereas the
>> working screenRect top is 22.  I'm concluding that the stack rectangle is
>> measured from the bottom of the stack decorations bar.
>>
>> Finally, I'm wondering how running on a Windows machine affects any of
>> this.  For example, Windows includes a menu bar at the top of each window
>> right underneath the decorations bar.  Is the width of that menu bar taken
>> into account in the stack's rectangle, in addition to the decorations bar?
>>
>> Thanks for any confirmation/enlightenment!
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Falling at the last fence...

[John Dixon]

Mark,

A screenshot is with a posting of the same title as this topic in the forum... 
I am using lc 5.0.2... I only have the one distribution profile...

Dixie..:-)


> Hi Dixie,
> Can you put up a screenshot of the error somewhere?
> Which version of LC are you using?
> Have you selected the correct application distribution profile in the 
> standalone settings?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> 
> Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
> KvK: 50277553
> 
> Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za
> 
> On 29 jan 2012, at 19:07, John Dixon wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> > but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> > Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> > was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> > 
> > I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> > keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> > is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> > that might have some insight into this problem ?
> > 
> > Dixie
> 
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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Randy Hengst]

Hello Dixie,

Well, make sure you've selected the correct profile on the applications 
settings page. I've selected the wrong one before.

be well,
randy
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On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:07 PM, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> 
> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> that might have some insight into this problem ?
> 
> Dixie
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Re: Falling at the last fence...

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Dixie,

Can you put up a screenshot of the error somewhere?

Which version of LC are you using?

Have you selected the correct application distribution profile in the 
standalone settings?

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On 29 jan 2012, at 19:07, John Dixon wrote:

> 
> I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... 
> but when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
> Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it 
> was not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...
> 
> I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
> keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something 
> is not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience 
> that might have some insight into this problem ?
> 
> Dixie


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Falling at the last fence...

[John Dixon]

I have an app ready to upload to Apple for review through iTunes connect... but 
when I try and use the Application Loader to upload, I get a message ' 
Application failed codesign verification. The signature was invalid, or it was 
not signed with an iPhone distribution Certificate'...

I can see the 'iphone developer' & 'iphone distribution' certificate in the 
keyChain app and am told that they are both valid, so assume that something is 
not 'connected' correctly' anyone been through this grim experience that 
might have some insight into this problem ?

Dixie
  
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Re: select after text

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

It isn't a problem of delay but a problem of order. You want to make sure that 
selecting the text is the last thing that happens, e.g. after instead of before 
the engine focuses on the first field.

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On 29 jan 2012, at 09:49, Serge Brami wrote:

> Thanks 
> I have tried the same thing in a simple test stack,  it is the same thing , 
> it works in fact only if i open the field clicking inside after the text , 
> but if i click   before or into the text the insertion point is put 
> at the loc of the click .
> 
> I think  Mark is right  its a problem of delay
> I am going to try
> 
> Thanks 


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Re: select after text

[Serge Brami]

Thanks 
I have tried the same thing in a simple test stack,  it is the same thing , it 
works in fact only if i open the field clicking inside after the text , but if 
i click   before or into the text the insertion point is put 
at the loc of the click .

I think  Mark is right  its a problem of delay
I am going to try

Thanks 
Le 28 janv. 2012 à 19:56, Phil Davis a écrit :

> Wrong - autoHilite doesn't make a difference.
> 
> Serge, your script works fine in a simple test stack, so I'm guessing some 
> other script is getting in the way. Is that possible?
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> On 1/28/12 12:07 AM, Phil Davis wrote:
>> Is the autoHilite of the field is turned on? That might make a difference.
>> 
>> Phil Davis
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/27/12 11:17 PM, Serge Brami wrote:
>>> This script in a focusable and not locked  field :
>>> 
>>> on openfield
>>>put the long date after me
>>>select after text of me
>>> end openfield
>>> 
>>> 
>>> simple but doesn't work : the insertion point is never placed at the end of 
>>> the text ...
>>> any idea ?
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