Re: Passing parameters by reference
On Mar 12, 2012, at 11:18 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: You'd have to somehow prevent the dereferencing of myArray[myKey] in order to pass it by reference. Just as the dereferencing of x would have be be prevented to pass it as reference. Perhaps any mutable place is the same. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
options for safe transfer of data to a server - ?
My client wants to have a routine that records when a user first installs the project, by incrementing an item in a text file on his server. We've got it working well with ftp but I'm wondering if whether sending the ftp login password over regular ftp is a security issue; some digging in the archives makes me think that sftp isn't an option yet. Would https:// be an option to write to a file on the server? Would that require that they have an SSL certificate? Any ideas on a good way to handle this? Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slightly OT - LC in Keynote
Don't know how it would be accomplished, but apparently send to program lets you do some interesting things, and since its based on appletalk/applescript type of events, it might be possible to talk to a separate running stack that way? Obviously neither powerpoint nor keynote have the same verbiage, so they can't send to program but they can tell application through scripting so it might be worth a shot. Wish I still had a mac so I could try all these neat things. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Bob Earp rje...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry if I confused you Bob, I wasn't suggesting you could run an LC (stand-alone) project in PowerPoint, but you can run a .swf file which can include interaction. As you say, I could create a link in Keynote to the stand-alone LC project, but was hoping somebody had done something whizzy with an ActionScript or something that had it more integrated. Kee, I need the interaction in the LC project, so unfortunately a QT movie won't do that, but it was a good idea, thanks... best, Bob... Bob Sneidar wrote: I have not heard that you can imbed an LC app into a PowerPoint presentation. Can you embed other apps in a PowerPoint presentation? LC is not a player, it's a runtime app. I suspect that if PowerPoint accepts file links, you could create a link that launched the LC app as a standalone, but then it would not be embedded per se. Bob Bob Earp White Rock, British Columbia. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Passing parameters by reference
That is what passing an element to an array amounts to was my point. Bob On Mar 12, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Pete wrote: I'm not sure whose post you're responding to Bob. Where do you see something that amounts to a statement being passed as a referenced parameter? Pete On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Just weighing in here, that would be a bit confusing. Passing by reference means that the command or function has access to the variable passed to it. By passing what amounts to a statement, there is nothing for LC to manipulate on the other end. Statements have to have some place to put the results. In this case, there is no place for LC to put the statement when passed by reference. Even a reference to an element of an array is a statement of sorts. That the command is in essence the characters for key delimiters [] doesn't change that. The array that is an element in a multidimensional array is not itself a container. The array is the container. To work with it you have to put it into it's own container then pass the new array by reference. I hope that makes sense. At least it does to me. :-) Bob On Mar 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Dar Scott wrote: Thanks for the tip, Dick, on using the list of keys. One can think of arrays as nested or multidimensional. On Mar 10, 2012, at 1:06 AM, Dick Kriesel wrote: I agree it'd be good if LC could accept any array reference for invoking a handler that specifies pass-by-reference. Though is is probably more work, one might also consider chunks in pass-by-reference. Maybe any thing the subtract command can take. However, this might be a problem: doSomethingToTheseTwo char 1 to 2 of it, char 2 to 3 of it command doSomethingToTheseTwo @a, @b put butter into a put cheese into b put empty into a end doSomethingToTheseTwo That might also have a problem with this call: doSomethingToTheseTwo x, x[t] I immagine LiveCode folks can come up with a semantics that makes sense for weird cases. The subtract command does not have the the problem because it modifies only one thing. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Slightly OT - LC in Keynote
Oh that is an interesting thought. But still, if the presentation is very complex just the writing of a stack that would respond to the Applescript commands would be a lot of work. Bob On Mar 13, 2012, at 7:21 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Don't know how it would be accomplished, but apparently send to program lets you do some interesting things, and since its based on appletalk/applescript type of events, it might be possible to talk to a separate running stack that way? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How do I execute a shell command?
The docs say to execute a shell command you can do: shell(ls -l *.txt) However, this fails for me with: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler Hint: shell(ls How do I run a shell command from inside LiveCode on a Mac? The full solution I want to do is to run the id command as administrator so I could run sudo id but I want to prompt for a successful authentication. I know how to do this in AppleScript so I could just call that but I would rather to it in LC. Bill Vlahos ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: How do I execute a shell command?
2012/3/13 Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com The docs say to execute a shell command you can do: shell(ls -l *.txt) However, this fails for me with: Message execution error: Error description: Handler: can't find handler Hint: shell(ls How do I run a shell command from inside LiveCode on a Mac? Umm, could it be that you missed catching the shell() result? i.e:put shell(...) into x HTH, Thierry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Scott
Thanks Scott and Colin, LiveCode and this list make it sooo easy. It is almost embarrassing. Does anyone know what program, if there is ONE, that opens when you double click on a jpg or png image in Windows? What happens when you click on an image.jpg? Does Windows present options? Jim Message: 17 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:43 -0800 From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Exporting a snapshot directly to Preview Message-ID: cb83b20b.5b07d%sc...@tactilemedia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Jim: Here's an example for OS X: on mouseUp put specialFolderPath(desktop) /exported.png into theFilePath export snapshot from img 1 to file theFilePath as PNG launch theFilePath with /Applications/Preview.app end mouseUp You can choose whatever image format you need, and you should probably make the script more robust by checking for the existence/path of the Preview app, confirm overwriting of the exported file, etc. For Windows, you might be able to use MS Paint but I haven't tested this. Hope this helps. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Exporting a snapshot directly to Preview
(Forgot the Subject line.) Thanks Scott and Colin, LiveCode and this list make it sooo easy. It is almost embarrassing. Does anyone know what program, if there is ONE, that opens when you double click on a jpg or png image in Windows? What happens when you click on an image.jpg? Does Windows present options? Jim Message: 17 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:00:43 -0800 From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Exporting a snapshot directly to Preview Message-ID: cb83b20b.5b07d%sc...@tactilemedia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Jim: Here's an example for OS X: on mouseUp put specialFolderPath(desktop) /exported.png into theFilePath export snapshot from img 1 to file theFilePath as PNG launch theFilePath with /Applications/Preview.app end mouseUp You can choose whatever image format you need, and you should probably make the script more robust by checking for the existence/path of the Preview app, confirm overwriting of the exported file, etc. For Windows, you might be able to use MS Paint but I haven't tested this. Hope this helps. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Externals
Thank you Francois. Pete 2012/3/12 François Chaplais francois.chapl...@mines-paristech.fr try http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue13/newsletter5.php and http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/november/issue14/newsletter3.php Best regards, François Le 12 mars 2012 à 22:53, Pete a écrit : The Reference Manual includes a link to get the externals developer kit and also a couple of links to tutorials for writing externals. None of them work (error 404's). Can someone point me to where I can get the kit and review the tutorials? Thanks, -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: options for safe transfer of data to a server - ?
simple ftp has no security for world accessible web sites. I just had all my sites compromised by Pakistani hackers, and will be spending much of the next two days cleaning up. I have since repented and am using SFTP with Dreamhost. But that doesn't help those that want to use Livecode FTP. There are external solutions that are used by Andre and Trevor, but are a bit more complicated and I haven't tried them. One of those many feature requests pending. On 13 March 2012 05:42, Curt Ford cf...@mailbox.sc.edu wrote: My client wants to have a routine that records when a user first installs the project, by incrementing an item in a text file on his server. We've got it working well with ftp but I'm wondering if whether sending the ftp login password over regular ftp is a security issue; some digging in the archives makes me think that sftp isn't an option yet. Would https:// be an option to write to a file on the server? Would that require that they have an SSL certificate? Any ideas on a good way to handle this? Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com wrote: Thanks for making that change. I've been following up a bit more on the behavior of GetDataForLine being called in repeated cycles for the number of lines in the datagrid. As a reminder, the datagrid has 11 visible lines, GetDataForLine gets called once for lines 1-12, then a second time for lines 1-2 again, and occasionally a third time for lines 1-2. I think I know the reason this is happening. The first GetDataForLine cycle happens when I set the dgProps[Columns] property of the datagrid. The second cycle happens when I set the dgNumberOfRecords property. There's a possible third cycle because sometimes I set the dgProps[Sort By Column] property. I have tried setting the dgNumberOfRecords to empty, zero, or NULL before any of the above properties are changed but it doesn't seem to make any difference. If you have the dgNumberOfRecords set to a positive number then that makes sense as the data grid has to redraw. If the dgNumberOfRecords is set to 0 (and messages aren't locked when setting it) then I'm not sure why that is. Setting the dgNumberOfRecords to 0 should do the trick as it empties out the internal sDataArray array. GetDataForLine is only sent if an entry in the sDataArray array is NULL. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.clarify-it.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Exporting a snapshot directly to Preview
My variation of the syntax leaves it up to the system to open the file. It would be wrong of you to predetermine that a user sees the document in any particular program. Just leave off the part where you set the app to use, and the system will take care of that for you. On Mar 13, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: Does anyone know what program, if there is ONE, that opens when you double click on a jpg or png image in Windows? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: options for safe transfer of data to a server - ?
ftp is indeed a security problem, and sftp is not (easily) available - needs externals, or command line usage, etc. https:// would be an option - but he would need an ssl cert. However, if the item to be uploaded is small (sounds like it is), then you can do it very safely and easily, just as a get URL with the parameters encrypted from within LC. LC on the client machine (pseudo code): put My machine has been installed tMyName tMyOtherData into tDataToSendToServer encrypt tDataToSendToServer with des using password mysecretpassword put it into tData put http://my.domain.com/registerinstall.lc?data=; urlencode(tData) into tURL get URL (tURL) (and of course, make sure that you keep the password safe, only do this within a protected stack, etc. and on the server, you simply take the data passed, urldecode it, decrypt it (with the same secretpasword) and log it to the file. There is a tiny insecurity here - someone could flood you with bad URL gets and grow you logfile out of control - which can easily be avoided by passing a security check, e.g. ( add this code immediately before the get URL above) put the seconds into tTime encrypt tTime with des using password mysecretpassword put it into tEncTime put ?time= tTime enctime= tEncTime after tURL and then on the server, verify that the enctime value can be decrypted to get the time value; only save the data if that matches OK. -- Alex. On 13/03/2012 12:42, Curt Ford wrote: My client wants to have a routine that records when a user first installs the project, by incrementing an item in a text file on his server. We've got it working well with ftp but I'm wondering if whether sending the ftp login password over regular ftp is a security issue; some digging in the archives makes me think that sftp isn't an option yet. Would https:// be an option to write to a file on the server? Would that require that they have an SSL certificate? Any ideas on a good way to handle this? Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: options for safe transfer of data to a server - ?
Hi, The sole solution i know is to own a dedicated server and to access it in SSH tunneling (SFTP) mode with only some open ports 22, 25, 80, 443, etc... you can tune as you want as long as you take care to keep the unwanted ports closed (alike FTP = 21). There are probably ways to tune SFTP to let multiple users use it on a shared server but i did't try to setup this kind of config for yet. Kind regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.spimsco.net : la première solution saas open source et commerciale de développement sémantique préprogrammé Le 13 mars 2012 à 18:43, stephen barncard a écrit : simple ftp has no security for world accessible web sites. I just had all my sites compromised by Pakistani hackers, and will be spending much of the next two days cleaning up. I have since repented and am using SFTP with Dreamhost. But that doesn't help those that want to use Livecode FTP. There are external solutions that are used by Andre and Trevor, but are a bit more complicated and I haven't tried them. One of those many feature requests pending. On 13 March 2012 05:42, Curt Ford cf...@mailbox.sc.edu wrote: My client wants to have a routine that records when a user first installs the project, by incrementing an item in a text file on his server. We've got it working well with ftp but I'm wondering if whether sending the ftp login password over regular ftp is a security issue; some digging in the archives makes me think that sftp isn't an option yet. Would https:// be an option to write to a file on the server? Would that require that they have an SSL certificate? Any ideas on a good way to handle this? Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Cyberduck versus Flow
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Hi Francis, I tried CyberDuck but it messed up my file names if they contained special characters. I have no experience with Flow. I still use FileZilla, which has a very clumsy interface but works correctly. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 13 mrt 2012, at 20:01, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Hi Francis, I've used Cyberduck for a couple of years, and like it very much. Used to use FileZilla, but as Mark said, it's a clumsy interface. Haven't tried Flow. - Charles On 2012-03-13, at 1:19 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Francis, I tried CyberDuck but it messed up my file names if they contained special characters. I have no experience with Flow. I still use FileZilla, which has a very clumsy interface but works correctly. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 13 mrt 2012, at 20:01, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
...I've used Panic's Transmit for the last 10 years and see no need to change. Best, Keith.. On 13 Mar 2012, at 19:22, Charles E Buchwald wrote: Hi Francis, I've used Cyberduck for a couple of years, and like it very much. Used to use FileZilla, but as Mark said, it's a clumsy interface. Haven't tried Flow. - Charles On 2012-03-13, at 1:19 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Francis, I tried CyberDuck but it messed up my file names if they contained special characters. I have no experience with Flow. I still use FileZilla, which has a very clumsy interface but works correctly. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.7 for LiveCode here http://qery.us/za On 13 mrt 2012, at 20:01, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Personally I've been using Cyberduck for about 5 years, and don't understand the comments about its clumsy interface; all seems remarkably straightforward to me. Experience with almost all other FTP clients seems to fall short of Cyberduck. But, Hey, I'm talking about sending stuff from my PPC macMini running 10.4, so don't take my word as far as the latest thang goes. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Hi Francis: If you want cheap, Flow is on sale at the moment, so it is a great deal. I've used it a bit, though not with On_Rev, and it has worked fine. If you're looking specifically for a Mac solution -- there are other FTP tools that have been around for a while but cost more: Fetch - http://fetchsoftworks.com/fetch/ Transmit - http://www.panic.com/transmit/ One thing you might want to consider is a combination code-editor/FTP app like Panic's Coda or MacRabbit's Espresso. You edit your code locally and then upload from the same interface. Espresso has an option that can automatically upload your page every time you save locally, which is a great timesaver in some situations. I have been using Espresso for a while now, and while it sometimes need to be refreshed with On-Rev, I love it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Francis, I like both Interarchy and Transmit http://nolobe.com http://panic.com These days I am using Transmit. =) On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
I use Cyberduck and Taco HTML Edit together to get the benefits of the combined editor/ftp. Cyberduck detetcs the presence of Taco on your computer and includes a contextual menu item to download a file into Taco, then when you save it in Taco it automatically upload to the server again. Pete On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Hi Francis: If you want cheap, Flow is on sale at the moment, so it is a great deal. I've used it a bit, though not with On_Rev, and it has worked fine. If you're looking specifically for a Mac solution -- there are other FTP tools that have been around for a while but cost more: Fetch - http://fetchsoftworks.com/fetch/ Transmit - http://www.panic.com/transmit/ One thing you might want to consider is a combination code-editor/FTP app like Panic's Coda or MacRabbit's Espresso. You edit your code locally and then upload from the same interface. Espresso has an option that can automatically upload your page every time you save locally, which is a great timesaver in some situations. I have been using Espresso for a while now, and while it sometimes need to be refreshed with On-Rev, I love it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) -Francis Windows is, and always was, a succession of panes ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Francis, Not exactly what you asked, but I'm using Fetch. I like it fine, but next time I have to pay for an upgrade, i plan to go to CyberDuck. .Jerry On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Maybe a little outside LiveCode discussions, but I want the best app to upload my files to my On-Rev server. I was happy with FileZilla, then I found Cyberduck which really makes me happy, now I see Flow which seems to beat all the FTP apps hands down (cheap at $4.99). Can I get some feedback from Cyberduck/Flow users to help me decide whether to go with the flow (pun intended !) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cyberduck versus Flow
Mark, I've used Cyberduck for years and have really liked it…until recently. The newer versions sometimes messes up my files when I upload them to the web site. Most files work fine but some don't that used to. I've reported it to the vendor who cannot reproduce the problem. I've been using Fetch instead which works fine although I prefer Cyberduck. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On Mar 13, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Francis, I tried CyberDuck but it messed up my file names if they contained special characters. I have no experience with Flow. I still use FileZilla, which has a very clumsy interface but works correctly. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Passing parameters by reference
Hi, Bob! On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: That is what passing an element to an array amounts to was my point. I think what you are calling a statement many will call an expression. This concern is understandable. However, I think we can distinguish between an expression that means a value and an expression that means a mutable place. We have this distinction in LiveCode. The expression '4 + a' can be used only as a value. The expression a[3] can be used as a value or a mutable place. That value is what is contained in that mutable place. That mutable place is called a container in HyperCard. We can't say 'put 7 into 4+a' but we can say 'put 7 into a[3]'. The concept has strong HyperCard and LiveCode precedence. We can say 'put 3 into char 2 of item 6 of a'. A chunk is a container. Allowing @ parameters to refer to containers and not just variables can create some implementation challenges, perhaps, even some documentation challenges, but it does open the door to commands that can be used to, say, capitalize the value of containers. I would hope the conceptual challenges in use would only apply to advanced users doing weird things. In the simplest case, the extension would replace variable with container in the description of @. I come from a background in functional programming in which just about everything is a value and not a container, but I have embraced the language used in LiveCode and the ability to modify things in ways besides replacing variable values and replacing properties. Dar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
Thank you very much Trevor. On my iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with LiveCode 5.0.2: Opening movies cursor took 274 milliseconds --- Drawing list took 126 milliseconds --- Really impressive compared to previous results ! Jérôme Le 12 mars 2012 à 15:01, Trevor DeVore a écrit : I've updated the stack to use the new technique. You can download it from the same url. I'm on a faster machine testing but here are the times I get: Opening movies cursor took 150 milliseconds --- Drawing list took 81 milliseconds --- -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.clarify-it.com-www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sqlite and performances in LiveCode
Hi Trevor, OK, found the problem. I had a set dgProps[sort by column] statement after setting the dgNUmberOfRecords. Moved that to a place where dgNumberOfRecords is zero and only one cycle of GetDataForLine happens now. Thanks for the help in tracking it down. There are a lot of nuances to using dgNumberOfRecords! Pete On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.comwrote: If you have the dgNumberOfRecords set to a positive number then that makes sense as the data grid has to redraw. If the dgNumberOfRecords is set to 0 (and messages aren't locked when setting it) then I'm not sure why that is. Setting the dgNumberOfRecords to 0 should do the trick as it empties out the internal sDataArray array. GetDataForLine is only sent if an entry in the sDataArray array is NULL. -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Filter probelm
Unless I'm doing something wrong, filter tvar without tab doesn't work, that is the lines with a tab remain in tvar after the filter command. Suer would be nice to have that work when dynamically building the contents of a popup menu with indented lines in it... -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Filter probelm
On 14/03/2012, at 02:52 PM, Pete wrote: Unless I'm doing something wrong, filter tvar without tab doesn't work, that is the lines with a tab remain in tvar after the filter command. Suer would be nice to have that work when dynamically building the contents of a popup menu with indented lines in it... That would only work if the lines you wanted to filter out only contained a tab character. If they contain other stuff then you need one of the following... filter tvar without (*tab*) -- if the tab can be anywhere in the line filter tvar without (tab*) -- if the tab is at the start of the line, or filter tvar without (*tab) -- if the tab is at the end of the line Terry... -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.commailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Dr Terry Judd Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Eduction Unit Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry Health Sciences The University of Melbourne ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] iOS document interaction external added to mergExt
Hi LiveCoders mergExt (http://mergext.com) has grown again with a new external called mergDoc. The suite now includes 8 externals: barcode reading, video recording, extended file attributes, iAd banners and more. mergDoc is an iOS external that adds functions and commands related to document interaction. This currently includes presenting a modal preview, open in app menu, document options menu and requesting the document icons in PNG form. Printing is also available via the preview. mergDoc with 29% of the vote came in a close second in the poll to MapKit. There's a new poll up now but clearly MapKit is next on the hit list. Users can now also participate in the mergExt affiliate program to get a free month of updates for every sale. Once logged in you will see the referral url above the poll. Don't forget to vote for what you want next! If you want something that's not on the poll then add it to the Ideas topic in the mergExt forum. Monte Goulding -- M E R Goulding Software development services ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
