Re: [Android] how to include folders and files

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 12:14 AM, Nicolas Cueto wrote:


what must I do to ensure that those directories and their contents get
placed on my Android tablet during either test in the IDE or when
building an apk to export for an install from the tablet.


Add them using the Copy Files pane. Click the Folder button and select a 
folder. It will show in the list as the folder name followed by /*.


The path to a file inside a folder will be like this:

 specialFolderPath(engine)  /foldername/file.png

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Re: how to read/write data on Android?

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 12:36 AM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

Now if you are rooted you can look into the elusive data
folder. the apk is located at data/app. The documents folder is located
at data/data/com.reverse.dns/files where com.reverse.dns is what you
entered in the standalone application settings.


Thanks. The paths were what I was curious about. Is cache there too?

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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Marek Reichenbach
Hi Mark.

Sorry for bothering you again. Wanna ask you smth. In LiveCode

If I have a result in MySQL like:

SELECT days from travel;

I get:

1234567
123456-
123456-
123
12345-7

(days from monday till sunday)

Question.

How can I make my result in form like:

when i get for example: 1234567 - i should get result +++, 123-56-  I
would get +++-++- .

Help please.
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Re: App Rejected: Crash reports

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Thanks Jaque  Dar,

I've sent the stack and the crash reports to RunRev support people at the same 
time than my original post to this forum and I am waiting for the answer.

I've made some of the stress tests Dar suggests during the developing process 
and I never couldn't make it crash. Actually I have no crash reported in Xcode 
from my app during the whole developing process.

I will try some more stress tests, but if it is really a random bug I feel I am 
in a big trouble, facing Apple and specially, facing my client. 

Let's see the support people answer.

Meanwhile, is there any event in LiveCode for detecting a crash ? Does the 
closeStack works when a crash occurs ?

Maybe I can detect at least in which card and circumstances the crash occurs 
adding some code to the closeStack event.

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Hi,

Thanks for all the answers and I didn´t expect to generate such a debate about 
this issue.  ;-)

My previous version of Xcode was the 4.2 and I couldn´t find the 4.3 in the 
Apple developers site, as Mike suggests.

So, I will keep my 4.2 files while waiting for the official LC solution. I 
hope it will work in the next LC version, isn't it ? When it is supposed to be 
released ?

I am really very tired of fighting against leopards and lions and bears and 
mountains and and and …  I share the opinion that all this stuff is running 
backwards, probably to make us all to spend more money in their brilliant and 
amazing and exciting solutions …  :-(

Best regards.

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AW: how to resize icons when resizing objects?

2012-03-19 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ken,
hmmm, didn't thought about that yet. A button with it's predefined different
states was the first choice. I have to test, if Terrys approach or using
just images is more efficient.
Are you using images instead of buttons in such a case?
Thanks Tiemo

 
 Is there a reason you're using buttons with icons instead of just image
 objects in this instance?
 
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OS X application ID

2012-03-19 Thread Dar Scott
I am pondering about how a handler that is part of the development of an 
application that is being created and tested in the IDE might know about the 
eventual OS X application ID of that app.

Where is the OS X application ID saved by the standalone application settings 
window?

I assume this is in a property of the stack.

And if one happens to know these...
What is the value when no settings have been set up?
What is the value in standalones and in IDE stacks?

Dar


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Re: App Rejected: Crash reports

2012-03-19 Thread Dar Scott

On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:33 AM, Sergio Schvarstein wrote:

 Actually I have no crash reported in Xcode from my app during the whole 
 developing process.

I think this is important.  If I understand right, if you go and look at the 
crash logs for your test device or devices, that list is empty for this app.  I 
have seen crashes on a quit or a kill by iOS and need to track that down, but 
your situation seems to be something else.

The only other thing I can think of is sending reports to your externals 
suppliers, too.  

Are using iphoneControls and referring to them by ID?  Might the ID be 
corrupted or used after a delete? (Just a wild guess.)

I wish you well in tracking this down.  I, too, would feel more at ease with 
this resolved.

Dar

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Kerner
Sergio,

1) Log into developer.apple.com
2) Top left (Dev Centers) pick iOS
3) Scroll down to the Downloads section.
4) Top item is Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion.  Click on the button that says
Download XCode 4
5) Below the break is a section that says Download Xcode 4 for free.
Below that is a subsection that says Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion.  at the bottom
of that section is a bolded hader that says Looking for additional
developer tools?.  Click the link that says View Downloads
6) Pick your poison.  Note that there are 7 pages of downloads, including
Xcode 4.3 for Lion.  I have not tried to run this in Snow Leopard, but if
you're looking for 4.3, that's where it is.  Click on the blue disclosure
triangle to see the download link.

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Passkey in 5.5.0

2012-03-19 Thread Ray Horsley
Create a new stack in 5.5.0 and the passKey property comes back as true.  I'm 
not sure what that means since I thought passKeys were empty until set.  
Setting the passkey to the also no longer seems to unlock the stack.  Anything 
new going on here?

Thanks,

Ray Horsley
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Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread Jim Hurley
I have a slider in which the showValue is set to true.

Unfortunately, the card background is gray and the black slider value is very 
difficult to read.

The inspector for the slider does not display an option for the foreground 
color. Why not?

Using 4W Properties (thank you RIchard) the foreground color is listed as an 
option (and can be changed there, or from the msg box.)

Why this omission in the Inspector? (LC version 4 AND 5.)


Jim
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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Jim:

The Inspector doesn't provide options for changing *every* possible property
of objects.  One could argue that it should, but doing so would likely
consume a lot more screen real estate, so RunRev probably opted to show what
they consider to be core properties.  As you found, you can always test
settings via the message box or object scripts.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design



Recently, Jim Hurley wrote:

 I have a slider in which the showValue is set to true.
 
 Unfortunately, the card background is gray and the black slider value is very
 difficult to read.
 
 The inspector for the slider does not display an option for the foreground
 color. Why not?
 
 Using 4W Properties (thank you RIchard) the foreground color is listed as an
 option (and can be changed there, or from the msg box.)
 
 Why this omission in the Inspector? (LC version 4 AND 5.)
 
 
 Jim
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Passkey in 5.5.0

2012-03-19 Thread Ray Horsley
After restoring Livecode 5.0.2 and the same stack from week-old backups I've 
realized this might be a compatibility issue regarding stacks saved in 5.0.2 
and then reopened in 5.5 (rc 2).  The stack's scripts can be opened and 
modified but objects themselves (such as buttons) can't be created deleted or 
modified.  The Inspector and Code buttons in the Rev toolbar are also disabled 
opening the 5.0.2 created stack in 5.5.

Thanks,

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Ray Horsley r...@linkit.com
 Date: March 19, 2012 11:52:06 AM CDT
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Passkey in 5.5.0
 
 Create a new stack in 5.5.0 and the passKey property comes back as true.  I'm 
 not sure what that means since I thought passKeys were empty until set.  
 Setting the passkey to the also no longer seems to unlock the stack.  
 Anything new going on here?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ray Horsley
 LinkIt! Software

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Re: IphoneDeviceScale

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think you can use an iPhone as a scale. I just stood on mine and now it 
doesn't work anymore. 

Bob


On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

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Re: IphoneDeviceScale

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Dang!! Doesn't work on my iPad either!

Bob


 I don't think you can use an iPhone as a scale. I just stood on mine and now 
 it doesn't work anymore. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
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Re: queryregistry problem win

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yes, some apps install registry keys with authentication that only the system 
can access. Bummer huh? Same thing with Posix permissions though. At least as 
an administrator you can change the permissions of the registry (or 
folder/file). It may be possible that you can authenticate as the Administrator 
account and have access that way. Not sure what you are doing but if you are 
shelling in try using the Administrator account, and ask the user for the 
credentials beforehand. 

Bob


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 Hi Thunder,
 
 Am 17.03.2012 um 16:05 schrieb Thunder:
 
 Do you have read permission ?
 
 Check this :
 Start regedit.exe
 Right click DefaultProductKey
 Click on permission
 
 Ah, OK, thanks, will check this!
 I thought ADMINISTARTOR would have direct access to everyting?!
 
 But if it does not work right out of the box then I won't be able to use it 
 anyway ;-)
 
 
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Re: IphoneDeviceScale

2012-03-19 Thread François Chaplais
Try using a fish.
Fish! Fish! my favorite dish!
François
Le 19 mars 2012 à 18:14, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 Dang!! Doesn't work on my iPad either!
 
 Bob
 
 
 I don't think you can use an iPhone as a scale. I just stood on mine and now 
 it doesn't work anymore. 
 
 Bob
 
 
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Re: queryregistry problem win

2012-03-19 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Bob,

Am 19.03.2012 um 18:18 schrieb Bob Sneidar:

 Yes, some apps install registry keys with authentication that only the system 
 can access. Bummer huh?

Yep!

 Same thing with Posix permissions though. At least as an administrator you 
 can change the permissions of the registry (or folder/file). It may be 
 possible that you can authenticate as the Administrator account and have 
 access that way. Not sure what you are doing

See my last mails, I will use another reg key instead. 
Will do for me.

 but if you are shelling in try using the Administrator account, and ask the 
 user for the credentials beforehand. 

ASK THE USER?
Come on, Bob, I was exspecting a way more funny proposal from you! :-D

 Bob
 
 On Mar 18, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote:
 Hi Thunder,
 Am 17.03.2012 um 16:05 schrieb Thunder:
 Do you have read permission ?
 Check this :
 Start regedit.exe
 Right click DefaultProductKey
 Click on permission
 Ah, OK, thanks, will check this!
 I thought ADMINISTARTOR would have direct access to everyting?!
 But if it does not work right out of the box then I won't be able to use 
 it anyway ;-)

Best

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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Ken Ray

On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Marek Reichenbach wrote:
 when i get for example: 1234567 - i should get result +++, 123-56-  I
 would get +++-++- .

The only way I know is kind of ugly, requiring seven nested REPLACE statements:

SELECT 
REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(123-56-,1,+),2,+),3,+),4,+),5,+),6,+),7,+)

This would return:

+++-++-


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Re: Failing to understand the oddities of the line chunk

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 11:47 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

If it resolves to an insertion point, then it's doing exactly what
you would expect. It's putting something into that insertion point.


That was my first reaction too, but on closer inspection it's putting 
the text into the wrong line.


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Re: AW: how to resize icons when resizing objects?

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 6:08 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hi Ken,
hmmm, didn't thought about that yet. A button with it's predefined different
states was the first choice.


I use buttons for that too. The way to resize the icon is to resize the 
images you are using as icons. Then the button icon will also change 
size. Make sure the images are locked or they won't keep their new sizes.


The script needs to adjust the image sizes before the card is drawn. 
Otherwise the icon won't change size until the next redraw, usually when 
the user presses the button or leaves the card and comes back.


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Re: OS X application ID

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 8:30 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

I am pondering about how a handler that is part of the development of
an application that is being created and tested in the IDE might know
about the eventual OS X application ID of that app.

Where is the OS X application ID saved by the standalone application
settings window?

I assume this is in a property of the stack.

And if one happens to know these... What is the value when no
settings have been set up? What is the value in standalones and in
IDE stacks?


All the standalone settings are stored in a custom property set of the 
stack called cRevStandaloneSettings. Turn on LiveCode UI Elements in 
Lists under the View menu and you'll be able to see that property set 
in the stack inspector.


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Re: Failing to understand the oddities of the line chunk

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
I can't help but feel that LC should flag a run time error in this
situation. it's not logical for a range to have an end point less than its
start point.  Any other action requires an arbitrary decision on what the
user wants to happen and, as evident from this thread, different users
expect different things.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 3/19/12 11:47 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 If it resolves to an insertion point, then it's doing exactly what
 you would expect. It's putting something into that insertion point.


 That was my first reaction too, but on closer inspection it's putting the
 text into the wrong line.


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Re: OS X application ID

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
But be careful - those properties aren't carried over to the standalone so
if you need access to them in the standalone as well as the IDE, you'll
need to grab them and put them into your own custom properties, possibly in
the savingStandalone handler.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:39 AM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 On 3/19/12 8:30 AM, Dar Scott wrote:

 I am pondering about how a handler that is part of the development of
 an application that is being created and tested in the IDE might know
 about the eventual OS X application ID of that app.

 Where is the OS X application ID saved by the standalone application
 settings window?

 I assume this is in a property of the stack.

 And if one happens to know these... What is the value when no
 settings have been set up? What is the value in standalones and in
 IDE stacks?


 All the standalone settings are stored in a custom property set of the
 stack called cRevStandaloneSettings. Turn on LiveCode UI Elements in
 Lists under the View menu and you'll be able to see that property set in
 the stack inspector.

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I'll bet, not knowing for sure, that if you hold down the shift key when you 
log in, the Finder will not re-open all those apps. 

Bob


On Mar 18, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Roger Eller wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 
 I don't want Lion. Apparently that's moot.
 
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 Really, Lion isn't so bad after you adjust its insane default mouse
 preferences.  I can see that on a trackpad or touchscreen, you might want
 to 'push' the page when you pan.  But with a mouse scrollwheel, it just
 feels wrong.  So I uncheck that option.  There's also a default setting to
 always re-open every freakin' document I had open the last time I used this
 application.  That one was really irritating.  And in the event of a crash,
 when you reboot, every app and document you had open will re-open (and you
 can't change that one).
 
 Regarding crashing, it doesn't crash often. It is quite stable, but when/if
 it does, the above applies.  If you restart, you have to un-check the
 option to re-open everything (unless that's what you want).
 
 As 7 of 9 (of Star Trek Voyager) would say, You will - adapt.
 
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Re: Failing to understand the oddities of the line chunk

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 12:42 PM, Pete wrote:

I can't help but feel that LC should flag a run time error in this
situation. it's not logical for a range to have an end point less than its
start point.  Any other action requires an arbitrary decision on what the
user wants to happen and, as evident from this thread, different users
expect different things.


I think it should behave the same way character selections do. A 
negative range has been a valid construct since HyperCard and is, 
actually, the only way to set the insertion point by script. It's a 
necessary feature.


When applied to lines instead of characters, the current implementation 
isn't following the same rules. My choice would be to make it consistent 
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Re: queryregistry problem win

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
I come from an IT background, so from my perspective, if the user does not know 
the password to the Administrator account, they should probably not be 
installing software. But the more I think about it, most home users do not even 
KNOW there is an Administrator account! Ick!

Bob


On Mar 19, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

 but if you are shelling in try using the Administrator account, and ask the 
 user for the credentials beforehand. 
 
 ASK THE USER?
 Come on, Bob, I was exspecting a way more funny proposal from you! :-D
 
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Re: App Rejected: Crash reports

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Thanks again Dar  :-)

I am not using any external resource, other than LiveCode.

The only external resource my app really uses is the data (csv files), the 
images (jpg files) and a couple of videos (mp4), which are all allocated in a 
web server. 

I also access and show a couple of websites, which are shown in a browser using 
iPhoneControls statements. When I use this iPhoneControls I always include a 
statement for deleting any iPhoneControls existing instance before opening a 
new one. Videos are also shown using iPhoneControls. I also use a very simple 
data picker, using iPhonePick. 

I will check the IDs and if everything is well protected for this kind of 
issues. How can I know if they are corrupted ?

I also think there are certain probabilities that a crash can happen if the web 
server fails for any reason. I make several controls, for example, if a file is 
not found. But I cannot control if an image file is damaged or fails to load by 
a different reason.

Also, I don't know how to control several iOS external events. For example, 
what happens if a phone call arrives while the data are loading ? What happens 
if an external iOS notification is shown ?

I coudn't find any code for managing these kind of external events. Do they 
exist ?

Thanks a lot for your interest and your time.  :-)


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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Sergio Schvarstein
Thanks Mike ! Really a brilliant guided tour !  :-D

I've got it and I am downloading it now.

Thanks ++



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 Sergio,
 
 1) Log into developer.apple.com
 2) Top left (Dev Centers) pick iOS
 3) Scroll down to the Downloads section.
 4) Top item is Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion.  Click on the button that says
 Download XCode 4
 5) Below the break is a section that says Download Xcode 4 for free.
 Below that is a subsection that says Xcode 4.3.1 for Lion.  at the bottom
 of that section is a bolded hader that says Looking for additional
 developer tools?.  Click the link that says View Downloads
 6) Pick your poison.  Note that there are 7 pages of downloads, including
 Xcode 4.3 for Lion.  I have not tried to run this in Snow Leopard, but if
 you're looking for 4.3, that's where it is.  Click on the blue disclosure
 triangle to see the download link.

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[OT] Battery slurping

2012-03-19 Thread Richmond
This, if it is true, is rather worrying for those of you developing for 
handhelds:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17431109

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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
Yeah, but that displays all possible properties of any object.  The
properties property of an object gets you an array of properties for a
specific object.  Still a long list mind you, and not a complete list
either according to the dictionary.

I think you're probably right that it would make the inspector windows very
unwieldy to include all properties.  The problem is that by leaving some of
them out, arbitrarily, it gives the impression that they aren't available,
especially to new users.  I remember when I first started using LC and
wanted to set the behavior of an option menu button - there's no inspector
window behavior field so I just assumed it wasn't possible for some reason
and went down a different, much more complicated path.

Seems like it would have been trivial to include one more option in the
inspector option menu for All Properties or something similar.  I ended
up writing my own plugin to show all the properties of a selected object
and allow me to change any of them.

Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 03/19/2012 06:05 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:

 I have a slider in which the showValue is set to true.

 Unfortunately, the card background is gray and the black slider value is
 very difficult to read.

 The inspector for the slider does not display an option for the
 foreground color. Why not?

 Using 4W Properties (thank you RIchard) the foreground color is listed as
 an option (and can be changed there, or from the msg box.)

 Why this omission in the Inspector? (LC version 4 AND 5.)


 Almost all object have a vast number of options that one can fiddle around
 with; the Props Inspector only
 displays a subset of them; why? I don't know, but I can hazard a guess:

 a Props Inspector that displayed ALL the props of each object might be so
 unwieldy as to be virtually unusable.

 Just for fun . . .

 Set up a new stack with a scrollingListField field called PROPPS

 and try this in the MessageBox:

 put the propertyNames into fld PROPPS

 and blow your mind . . .   :)



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Re: [OT] Battery slurping

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
Doesn't surprise me. I don't think knowing this will change people's attitudes 
towards ad driven apps though. Hopefully, someone will develop a better battery 
technology, and it won't be a problem anymore. Myself, I just ordered a Mophie 
Battery pack for my iPhone because it doesn't last as long as I like given the 
way I use it, and I do not play any games on it, and have very few ad enabled 
apps. 

Bob


On Mar 19, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Richmond wrote:

 This, if it is true, is rather worrying for those of you developing for 
 handhelds:
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17431109
 
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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Ken Ray

On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on -
 Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature,
 
 Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually:
 http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/16334/os-x-lion-where-did-save-as-go/
 
 One more thing to add to my list.

This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked 
volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs 
informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to 
do in the first place)… 

I'm just waiting for someone to write an OS extension that puts Save As back in 
the File menu…

:D

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Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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RE: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Ralph DiMola
What language is this article in?
 Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes.  ??
Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer
makes since.  Since

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com
[mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ken Ray
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:26 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: Re: New Xcode 4.3.1


On Mar 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 3/18/12 1:13 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
 Also they have basically de-balled two included apps that I depended on -
 Preview and TextEdit - due to the removal of the Save As feature,
 
 Apparently all apps will follow suit eventually:
 http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/16334/os-x-lion-where-did-save-as-go/
 
 One more thing to add to my list.

This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked
volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs
informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying
to do in the first place). 

I'm just waiting for someone to write an OS extension that puts Save As back
in the File menu.

:D

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Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Marek
Thanks a lot! That helped me a lot man.

Marek Reichenbach

On 2012 Kov. 19, at 19:29, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

 
 On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Marek Reichenbach wrote:
 when i get for example: 1234567 - i should get result +++, 123-56-  I
 would get +++-++- .
 
 The only way I know is kind of ugly, requiring seven nested REPLACE 
 statements:
 
 SELECT 
 REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(123-56-,1,+),2,+),3,+),4,+),5,+),6,+),7,+)
 
 This would return:
 
 +++-++-
 
 
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 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
 
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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
I wonder if there might be a less ugly way to do this in LC instead of
SQL...
Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Marek reichenbach.ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot! That helped me a lot man.

 Marek Reichenbach

 On 2012 Kov. 19, at 19:29, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

 
  On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Marek Reichenbach wrote:
  when i get for example: 1234567 - i should get result +++, 123-56-
  I
  would get +++-++- .
 
  The only way I know is kind of ugly, requiring seven nested REPLACE
 statements:
 
  SELECT
 REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(123-56-,1,+),2,+),3,+),4,+),5,+),6,+),7,+)
 
  This would return:
 
  +++-++-
 
 
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  Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
  Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
  Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
 
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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete pete@... writes:

 
 I wonder if there might be a less ugly way to do this in LC instead of
 SQL...

put replacetext(inputString, [1-7], +) into tNewText

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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread Jim Hurley
Pete,

Yes, my feeling exactly. It looks like there was a conscious effort to omit the 
foregroundColor  for the slider (and scollbar as well). I was worried that it 
was to be deprecated.

(I wasn't concerned about ALL the properties being in the Inspector. It is odd, 
however, that there is a place for the foreGroundColor property, an icon but no 
defining text, but no way to access it. I suspect RR got distracted while 
implementing the slider Inspector.)

You might want to check out Richard's 4wProps (under the Development/Plugins 
menu). Easy access to all the properties.

Occasionally I have found (legendary) Renaldi's SmartProperties invalueable. It 
allows one to compare side by side the properties to two objects. It is 
valuable in finding out why two, apparently identical, controls behave or look 
different.

Jim Hurley

 Message: 24
 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:42:46 -0700
 From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Text formatting for a slider
 Message-ID:
   CABx6j9mAJJtKUZneWCna5tP7fWxUMBvH7LqBsvxZgbJ=ybd...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Yeah, but that displays all possible properties of any object.  The
 properties property of an object gets you an array of properties for a
 specific object.  Still a long list mind you, and not a complete list
 either according to the dictionary.
 
 I think you're probably right that it would make the inspector windows very
 unwieldy to include all properties.  The problem is that by leaving some of
 them out, arbitrarily, it gives the impression that they aren't available,
 especially to new users.  I remember when I first started using LC and
 wanted to set the behavior of an option menu button - there's no inspector
 window behavior field so I just assumed it wasn't possible for some reason
 and went down a different, much more complicated path.
 
 Seems like it would have been trivial to include one more option in the
 inspector option menu for All Properties or something similar.  I ended
 up writing my own plugin to show all the properties of a selected object
 and allow me to change any of them.
 
 Pete
 
 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On 03/19/2012 06:05 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
 
 I have a slider in which the showValue is set to true.
 
 Unfortunately, the card background is gray and the black slider value is
 very difficult to read.
 
 The inspector for the slider does not display an option for the
 foreground color. Why not?
 
 Using 4W Properties (thank you RIchard) the foreground color is listed as
 an option (and can be changed there, or from the msg box.)
 
 Why this omission in the Inspector? (LC version 4 AND 5.)
 
 
 Almost all object have a vast number of options that one can fiddle around
 with; the Props Inspector only
 displays a subset of them; why? I don't know, but I can hazard a guess:
 
 a Props Inspector that displayed ALL the props of each object might be so
 unwieldy as to be virtually unusable.
 
 Just for fun . . .
 
 Set up a new stack with a scrollingListField field called PROPPS
 
 and try this in the MessageBox:
 
 put the propertyNames into fld PROPPS
 
 and blow your mind . . .   :)
 
 
 
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using a special keyboard in livecode fields (in Windows 7)

2012-03-19 Thread rand valentine
Hi, guys. Here’s another Unicode-related question. How can I use a Unicode 
keyboard to type in a Livecode field? I’m working with an American Indian 
language (called Hocąk), and I need to be able to type characters such as š, 
ǧ and ąą. I can put them into a field with Unicode commands, but when I try 
and type in a field using the special keyboard (a system-level thing), the 
keyboard seems to be ignored. Is there some trick to this? Thanks so much.

 

rand valentine

university of wisconsin-madison

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Jones
On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote:

 What language is this article in?
  Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes.  ??
 Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer
 makes since.  Since

Uh oh, looks like somebody's koolaid is wearing off.  Eveyone knows that this 
is Apple-ese.

Tim


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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Bob Sneidar
My Kool-aid is still going strong.

Bob


On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Tim Jones wrote:

 On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote:
 
 What language is this article in?
  Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes.  ??
 Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer
 makes since.  Since
 
 Uh oh, looks like somebody's koolaid is wearing off.  Eveyone knows that this 
 is Apple-ese.
 
 Tim
 
 
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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread stephen barncard
JIm, I'm a fan of Mr. Rinaldi as well - he supplied the first serial xcmds
for hypercard back in 89 -
however I can't get Smartproperties to work these days - have you used it
lately?

sqb

On 19 March 2012 14:57, Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Pete,

 Yes, my feeling exactly. It looks like there was a conscious effort to
 omit the foregroundColor  for the slider (and scollbar as well). I was
 worried that it was to be deprecated.

 (I wasn't concerned about ALL the properties being in the Inspector. It is
 odd, however, that there is a place for the foreGroundColor property, an
 icon but no defining text, but no way to access it. I suspect RR got
 distracted while implementing the slider Inspector.)

 You might want to check out Richard's 4wProps (under the
 Development/Plugins menu). Easy access to all the properties.

 Occasionally I have found (legendary) Renaldi's SmartProperties
 invalueable. It allows one to compare side by side the properties to two
 objects. It is valuable in finding out why two, apparently identical,
 controls behave or look different.

 Jim Hurley

  Message: 24
  Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:42:46 -0700
  From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Re: Text formatting for a slider
  Message-ID:
CABx6j9mAJJtKUZneWCna5tP7fWxUMBvH7LqBsvxZgbJ=
 ybd...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  Yeah, but that displays all possible properties of any object.  The
  properties property of an object gets you an array of properties for a
  specific object.  Still a long list mind you, and not a complete list
  either according to the dictionary.
 
  I think you're probably right that it would make the inspector windows
 very
  unwieldy to include all properties.  The problem is that by leaving some
 of
  them out, arbitrarily, it gives the impression that they aren't
 available,
  especially to new users.  I remember when I first started using LC and
  wanted to set the behavior of an option menu button - there's no
 inspector
  window behavior field so I just assumed it wasn't possible for some
 reason
  and went down a different, much more complicated path.
 
  Seems like it would have been trivial to include one more option in the
  inspector option menu for All Properties or something similar.  I ended
  up writing my own plugin to show all the properties of a selected object
  and allow me to change any of them.
 
  Pete
 
  On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 03/19/2012 06:05 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
 
  I have a slider in which the showValue is set to true.
 
  Unfortunately, the card background is gray and the black slider value
 is
  very difficult to read.
 
  The inspector for the slider does not display an option for the
  foreground color. Why not?
 
  Using 4W Properties (thank you RIchard) the foreground color is listed
 as
  an option (and can be changed there, or from the msg box.)
 
  Why this omission in the Inspector? (LC version 4 AND 5.)
 
 
  Almost all object have a vast number of options that one can fiddle
 around
  with; the Props Inspector only
  displays a subset of them; why? I don't know, but I can hazard a guess:
 
  a Props Inspector that displayed ALL the props of each object might be
 so
  unwieldy as to be virtually unusable.
 
  Just for fun . . .
 
  Set up a new stack with a scrollingListField field called PROPPS
 
  and try this in the MessageBox:
 
  put the propertyNames into fld PROPPS
 
  and blow your mind . . .   :)
 
 
 
  Jim
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Re: using a special keyboard in livecode fields (in Windows 7)

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Rand,

When I choose a Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Russian or Hebrew keyboard on 
Windows, I can type in the respective language. This works in LiveCode up to 
and including 5.0.2. However, I need to click in a field first and set the 
keyboard afterwards.

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On 19 mrt 2012, at 23:08, rand valentine wrote:

 Hi, guys. Here’s another Unicode-related question. How can I use a Unicode 
 keyboard to type in a Livecode field? I’m working with an American Indian 
 language (called Hocąk), and I need to be able to type characters such as 
 š, ǧ and ąą. I can put them into a field with Unicode commands, but when 
 I try and type in a field using the special keyboard (a system-level thing), 
 the keyboard seems to be ignored. Is there some trick to this? Thanks so much.
 
 
 
 rand valentine
 
 university of wisconsin-madison


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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Ralph-

Monday, March 19, 2012, 1:40:59 PM, you wrote:

 What language is this article in?
  Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes.  ??
 Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer
 makes since.  Since

My guess is it was spellchecked by an iPhone. And grammarchecked by
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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 5:34 PM, stephen barncard wrote:

JIm, I'm a fan of Mr. Rinaldi as well - he supplied the first serial xcmds
for hypercard back in 89 -
however I can't get Smartproperties to work these days - have you used it
lately?


His auto-save plugin is broken too.

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a
locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades
of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which
you weren't trying to do in the first place)…


Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on 
theoreticals until I actually install Lion.


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Re: IphoneDeviceScale

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
François-

Monday, March 19, 2012, 10:24:48 AM, you wrote:

 Try using a fish.

groan

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Re: IphoneDeviceScale

2012-03-19 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
Now, I know for sure you can scale a fish. Never done it using LC, though. Is 
there an external for that?

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On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:24 PM, François Chaplais wrote:

 Try using a fish.
 Fish! Fish! my favorite dish!
 François
 Le 19 mars 2012 à 18:14, Bob Sneidar a écrit :
 
 Dang!! Doesn't work on my iPad either!
 
 Bob
 
 
 I don't think you can use an iPhone as a scale. I just stood on mine and 
 now it doesn't work anymore. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
 
 What does iPhoneDeviceScale return on the new iPad? Four?
 
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Re: Passkey in 5.5.0

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Wieder
Ray-

Check the improve-list.

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Re: New Xcode 4.3.1

2012-03-19 Thread Tim Jones
On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
 
 This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked 
 volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs 
 informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying 
 to do in the first place)…
 
 Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on theoreticals 
 until I actually install Lion.

... but what you're supposed to do is according to my Apple Store Genius is 
Duplicate the opened file, close the original, change the new Copy and then 
Save.  When you save the duplicate, you'll be prompted with the normal Save 
As... dialogs.

And I agree, this is two steps back.

Tim


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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi,

put replacetext(theInput,[1-7],+) into theInput

is shorter. I don't know if it is also quicker.
(I also wrote this on the forum, earlier today).

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On 19 mrt 2012, at 23:50, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:

 repeat with n = 1 to length(tInput)
   if char n of tInput is a number
   then put + into char n of tInput
   else put - into char n of tInput
 end repeat
 
 Or am I missing something?
 
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Re: MySQL joined select

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
Seems like either Peter or Mark's solution would be a lot better than
trying to do it with an SQL SELECT, but I'm also not sure of what Marek is
trying to achieve - seems strange to want to replace all the numbers with
plus signs.  Maybe he wants a floating plus sign at the start of the
number, dunno.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD pmb...@gmail.comwrote:

 repeat with n = 1 to length(tInput)
   if char n of tInput is a number
   then put + into char n of tInput
   else put - into char n of tInput
 end repeat

 Or am I missing something?

 -- Peter

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 On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Pete wrote:

  I wonder if there might be a less ugly way to do this in LC instead of
  SQL...
  Pete
 
  On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Marek reichenbach.ma...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks a lot! That helped me a lot man.
 
  Marek Reichenbach
 
  On 2012 Kov. 19, at 19:29, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:
 
 
  On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:44 AM, Marek Reichenbach wrote:
  when i get for example: 1234567 - i should get result +++,
 123-56-
  I
  would get +++-++- .
 
  The only way I know is kind of ugly, requiring seven nested REPLACE
  statements:
 
  SELECT
 
 REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(123-56-,1,+),2,+),3,+),4,+),5,+),6,+),7,+)
 
  This would return:
 
  +++-++-
 
 
  Ken Ray
  Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
  Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
  Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
 
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Re: Text formatting for a slider

2012-03-19 Thread Pete
Thanks, 4wProps no installed.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 You might want to check out Richard's 4wProps (under the
 Development/Plugins menu). Easy access to all the properties.




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Geometry Manager Problem

2012-03-19 Thread Marty Knapp
All of a sudden I'm having trouble with the Geometry Manager. All works 
find in the IDE, but in my standalones, some object move/scale like 
they're supposed to and others don't. I'm using LC 5.0.2 and am not 
doing anything complicated - just moving a couple of buttons and scaling 
a field. It was fine the last time I checked. Anyone have a clue what's 
going on?


Thanks,
Marty Knapp

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Re: Failing to understand the oddities of the line chunk

2012-03-19 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:54 PM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote:

 I think it should behave the same way character selections do. A negative
 range has been a valid construct since HyperCard and is, actually, the only
 way to set the insertion point by script. It's a necessary feature.


This seems to work, and is far clearer:

   *select* before char 8 of fld 1

after works as well, as do word and line references.
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