AW: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Bob,
thanks for your hints.
For windows standalones you can set the UAC Execution Level to require
Admin. So LC knows, who's logged in. I wonder, if we can retrieve this
information from LC?
Tiemo

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 Von: use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-livecode-
 boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Sneidar
 Gesendet: Freitag, 23. März 2012 18:01
 An: How to use LiveCode
 Betreff: Re: How to get the user or his rights?
 
 Okay so ID -G in OS X returns a space delimited list of groups the user
 belongs to. If 80 is in that list, then he is an admin. You can use the
 form ID -p and the results will be human readable, but you can't just look
 for admin because other groups may contain the string admin, like _lpadmin
 for example.
 
 I am not going to dig into how to do this on Windows.
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Mar 23, 2012, at 12:41 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I have some configuration in my program which I would like to show
  only to the admin and not to a standard user.
 
  Is there a way to read the logged in user from the system or his
  permission level (win  mac)? I didn't find anything in the docs. Or
  is there another approach to differentiate between users?
 
  Thanks
 
  Tiemo
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] A couple of links about Gnome and usability

2012-03-26 Thread Richmond

On 03/26/2012 08:44 AM, Warren Samples wrote:

On 03/25/2012 12:38 PM, Richmond wrote:

I have spent some time playing around with PearOS,
and can honestly say it sucks;


I installed the latest version, Comice OS 4, and gave it only a quick 
look. While I don't mind if someone likes it, I wouldn't recommend it 
to anyone, especially with hopes that it might an easy transition from 
OS X. Choosing Comice Classic at login, I did have a working dock with 
icons which included Finder so finding my home folder was a cinch. 
The Dock icon set mysteriously changed at some point and I could not 
find an obvious way to do that deliberately. Beyond that, the control 
center made me feel mostly like there was little I could do to take 
control. The software center seems very easy to get, though, and 
that's a big plus. The UI has with good snap, but in the end, a lot of 
simple basic stuff is not intuitive for the new user. I think even 
less than most of the more traditional flavored DEs.


I also discovered that my unmodified install is useless with Livecode, 
which is Pete's interest. There are all kinds of problems with 
characters in scripts. you can't use /. Quotes are treated literally 
as in:


put something into tAnything; put tAnything

returns something with the quotes. If someone can tell me what's the 
likely cause, I'd be interested to know :D Even more interested in 
knowing how to remedy it.


It was only a cursory look. I've never liked the stock OS X Dock and 
always ran it without 3D, reflections and animations 


PearOS uses CairoDock. I use, whatever the distro, Avant Window 
Navigator; it can be easily configured to present a flat, transparent
dock with no annoying resizing of icons, 3D fluff and so on. I find that 
Avant Window Navigator can closely resemble the Mac OS 10.2
dock - which I much preferred to later versions. Personally I think that 
the Mac Dock is about the best thing about Mac OS, so have made sure
I have had a dock wherever I have worked; even going to far as to have 
one in my Virtual box running Windows XP.


Of course, with XFCE (let's say Xubuntu) one can set the bottom panel to 
behave in almost the same way; without the overhead of having to

install AWN.

and set it out of the way in the lower left corner, so this was 
definitely not a positive feature for me, but that's a matter of 
taste. That said, this distro has some real drawbacks in my opinion. 
Pete, this is not the best choice. Sorry to have brought it up.


Warren



Certainly, with Ubuntu and its spinoffs (currently doing most of my 
stuff with Xubuntu 12.04 beta 1), Livecode generally behaves
itself; although my Dictionary stack does seem to crash the IDE. However 
this may be due to my warped route to Xubuntu; Ubuntu 12.04
with UNITY, mucked about with Cinnamon, mucked about with MATE, mucked 
about with Lubuntu, installed XFCE. Until I pull
myself together and reinstall a virgin install of Xubuntu (not likely 
until the April full release) I won't know for certain why this is 
happening.


I have had Livecode doing very nicely with ZevenOS, a sort of kiddified 
Debian; got cheesed-off with the distro as it kept dumping me in 
dependency hell; so I dumped it.


I have always stuck to Debian derivs, so cannot really say anything 
about other types of Linux.


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[ANN] New version of password field

2012-03-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi,

For a project, I needed an improved version of my password field. The new 
password field includes better copy, paste and undo features and is now 
available on the Economy-x-Talk homepage to those who have made or will make a 
donation.

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Re: Playing Flash Video?

2012-03-26 Thread paolo mazza
I think the only way to show a flash movie (in streaming from a server
or directly from a local file) is to embed a FlashPlayer into a
revBrowser window.
However,  managing video (stop/start/pause ...) with javascript  is
not a trivial task!

In the rev Browser stack ( resources/examples folder of the LC the
distribution) , on the 4th card, there is a button Embed a Flash
Training viewer but the sample page does not work because the rev
browser can not find the page  /externals/flashexample.php .

Then, I found a thread in this mailing list addressing the
javascript-revbrowser issue ... see  Using Javascript with RevBrowser
to control a Flash Movie with some interesting  hints.

I am looking for a multi-platform solution to show streaming video
in LC stacks, but it seems to me that only the iOS solution is working
properly.In LC/Mac IDE the quicktime player can not open streaming
video (html/MPEG4). That's weird, because I can play the same video
opening it from the Archive/connect to menu of the QuickTime Player
10 installed in the same machine,

All the best
Paolo

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Re: Android 4

2012-03-26 Thread Devin Asay
Mark,

I downloaded Jacque's Casey's Solitaire app to an ASUS Transformer Prime 
running Android 4.0.3 and it runs flawlessly. I have also run several simple 
test apps on this tablet with no problem. (I am building for Android 2.3.3.)

Regards,

Devin

On Mar 24, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote:

 Hi (again),
 
 I didn't get a reply to my question:
 
 Does anyone have (good) experience with LiveCode apps running on an Android 
 4 tablet? I thought I'd ask before upgrading my tablet.
 
 Does that mean that LiveCode is not compatible with Android 4 yet?
 
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Re: Android 4

2012-03-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Thanks Ken and Devin,

It looks like I can upgrade my tablet to Android 4.0.

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On 26 mrt 2012, at 17:16, Devin Asay wrote:

 Mark,
 
 I downloaded Jacque's Casey's Solitaire app to an ASUS Transformer Prime 
 running Android 4.0.3 and it runs flawlessly. I have also run several simple 
 test apps on this tablet with no problem. (I am building for Android 2.3.3.)
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: Difficulty with Reply Size To The List

2012-03-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Reply with a plain text format. Any kind of formatting like color can 
dramatically increase the size of the email. Don't worry about quote coloring 
that is not embedded in the text. But custom fonts or colors will give you 
problems. 

Bob


On Mar 25, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

 I am using a Mac and Mail for my email stuff. Often when I reply to posts on 
 this list with as little as 1 or 2 lower quote levels, I get a reply from 
 use-livecode-bounces for exceeding the size limit of 15 KB. Such is the case 
 with a reply I was trying to make today to Thomas McGrath III and Tim Jones 
 re Calling ALL SETI Enthusiasts. Is this normal or am I missing something? 
 There are often, what appear much larger files, appearing on the list!
 
 Thanks and cheers,
 Roger
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Re: Displaying PDF files in an LC stack

2012-03-26 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

For Pete, Michael, Colin . et alia !

I think we have been down this road before !

This is not a completely internal display of
pdf files within a LiveCode stack, but it's the
closest I could get, and it solves all my needs.

I have a library of pdf files. I have a LiveCode
stack containing a card for each of the files
I may want to display. On each card, I have

1 - The pdf file name within my library,
2 - A display scale value for the pdf file,
3 - a field containing a list of page numbers
 that may interest me, within the pdf file.

I select the scale, select a page number and
open the pdf file, at a specific page, in an
external window, by building an applescript file
to call the Skim app with the required parameters.

Warning : Skim is for Macs only ... Life is so hard !

NOTE : I have not exploited the potential of all
possible parameters which can be passed to Skim.

I also found out that if my pdf file originated as a text
file (first-hand), then I could eventually dig out the text,
(which means that pdf display COULD be pure LiveCode)
but if the pdf file was built (for example) by conversion
from a jpg file, then I could NEVER recover the text.
(that seems pretty reasonable, does it not ?)

Catch me off-forum, and I can send you an
example stack.

Best Regards

-Francis

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Re: Displaying PDF files in an LC stack

2012-03-26 Thread Pete
Thanks Francis - and all the others who have suggested ways to deal with
this.

I think I will have to go with launching the pdf documents as a separate
process.  Seems like that is the only way to get a cross platform solution
that will deal with the display of bookmarks without having to spend time
writing Livecode scripts.

Maybe someone will write an LC plugin to deal with pdf files one day.
 Judging by the response to my initilial question, seems like there would
be enough interest to make it worthwhile.

Pete

PS I'm still looking at ScreenSteps.  They confirm that bookmarks are
included in pdf files created from ScreenSteps so I could get the best of
both worlds.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon effe...@wanadoo.frwrote:

 Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

 For Pete, Michael, Colin . et alia !

 I think we have been down this road before !

 This is not a completely internal display of
 pdf files within a LiveCode stack, but it's the
 closest I could get, and it solves all my needs.

 I have a library of pdf files. I have a LiveCode
 stack containing a card for each of the files
 I may want to display. On each card, I have

 1 - The pdf file name within my library,
 2 - A display scale value for the pdf file,
 3 - a field containing a list of page numbers
 that may interest me, within the pdf file.

 I select the scale, select a page number and
 open the pdf file, at a specific page, in an
 external window, by building an applescript file
 to call the Skim app with the required parameters.

 Warning : Skim is for Macs only ... Life is so hard !

 NOTE : I have not exploited the potential of all
 possible parameters which can be passed to Skim.

 I also found out that if my pdf file originated as a text
 file (first-hand), then I could eventually dig out the text,
 (which means that pdf display COULD be pure LiveCode)
 but if the pdf file was built (for example) by conversion
 from a jpg file, then I could NEVER recover the text.
 (that seems pretty reasonable, does it not ?)

 Catch me off-forum, and I can send you an
 example stack.

 Best Regards

 -Francis

 Nothing should ever be done for the first time !


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revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi friends,

I created a win installer app which uses HTTPS, so the revsecurtity.dll is 
obviously neccessary.
But I would like to only deploy a SINGLE EXE file if possible, ZIPping the 
thing is no option.

Unfortunately this special DLL cannot be installed dynamically and 
temporarily like other DLLs.
Can it? Anything I am missing?

So any clever hint is much appreciated :-)
Thanks a lot in advance!

Too bad this functionality has not yet been impemented into the engine like in 
the Macversion.


Best

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Klaus,

Would an installer be an option? Installer Maker makes one single exe file, 
which installs shortcuts in the Start menu and even starts the programme if you 
want. You can find it here http://qery.us/za

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On 26 mrt 2012, at 19:21, Klaus on-rev wrote:

 Hi friends,
 
 I created a win installer app which uses HTTPS, so the revsecurtity.dll is 
 obviously neccessary.
 But I would like to only deploy a SINGLE EXE file if possible, ZIPping the 
 thing is no option.
 
 Unfortunately this special DLL cannot be installed dynamically and 
 temporarily like other DLLs.
 Can it? Anything I am missing?
 
 So any clever hint is much appreciated :-)
 Thanks a lot in advance!
 
 Too bad this functionality has not yet been impemented into the engine like 
 in the Macversion.
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
 
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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Mark,

Am 26.03.2012 um 19:27 schrieb Mark Schonewille:

 Hi Klaus,
 
 Would an installer be an option? Installer Maker makes one single exe file, 
 which installs shortcuts in the Start menu and even starts the programme if 
 you want. You can find it here http://qery.us/za

Why did I know that exactly this mail woul be the first repsonse?
This is a rhetorical question! :-)

No thank you, not an option for the project.

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Best

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Klaus,

If it was what you expected, then it probably makes sense one way or another. I 
wouldn't have proposed it if you had mentioned that an installer is no option 
for the project.

Probably, the only possibility is to install the external yourself. If you 
write it to disk first and then open a dummy stack that has the external 
property set to the path to the external and start using the dummy stack, then 
the external should be available.

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On 26 mrt 2012, at 19:32, Klaus on-rev wrote:

 Hi Mark,
 
 Am 26.03.2012 um 19:27 schrieb Mark Schonewille:
 
 Hi Klaus,
 
 Would an installer be an option? Installer Maker makes one single exe file, 
 which installs shortcuts in the Start menu and even starts the programme if 
 you want. You can find it here http://qery.us/za
 
 Why did I know that exactly this mail woul be the first repsonse?
 This is a rhetorical question! :-)
 
 No thank you, not an option for the project.
 
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 Best
 
 Klaus


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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
Tom,

Please forgive me (especially Tim)  for apparently sounding argumentative. Not 
my intent at all. I was merely trying to say that given the vastness of our 
universe and the number of stars contained in it, many argue that it is logical 
to assume a multitude of intelligent species populating our entire galaxy. And 
given the vast time scale involved, it is also logical to assume these alien 
civilizations will not have evolved simultaneously (criterion #1)

The second criterion is that the radio active stages of technology of these 
civilizations will be short relative to these same vast time scales. I'm sure 
that I am not the first to define this criterion, but I have not seen it 
discussed before. The validity of this is discussed very briefly in the 
simulation notes. Further to this point, I would argue that ALL technologies 
have limited durations, and the simulation allows you to adjust it over a very 
long range (albeit short relative to the vast time scales of our galaxy) to 
your heart's content. I would be happy to discuss this at length, but it might 
be best to do so off-list??

My simulation starts with these assumptions and explores the outcome. These 
criteria are simply derived from the statistics of the numbers involved. There 
are many more qualified than I to explain the statistics involved, and a few 
references are included in the notes of the simulation. For those interested I 
would would start with the SETI project itself at. 


http://www.seti.org/

And, the Drake equation says it all . . . statically:


http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/seti/drake_equation.html

Thanks and cheers,
Roger Guay


On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:56 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Message: 6
 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:54:05 -0400
 From: Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 102, Issue 49
 Message-ID: 02634a04-296a-4fbe-a626-3e7587ff9...@mac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
 
 I didn't take either comment as overly argumentative but more like a 
 challenge (which we tend to do on this list from time to time). For me, 
 coming up with two criteria is intriguing and caught my interest. I would 
 love to see more on the validity of those two criteria, but what really 
 interested me was how Roger translated those to an interesting LC project. 
 Very cool. I would love to hear more about that.
 
 -- Tom McGrath III
 http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
 3mcgr...@comcast.net
 
 On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Roger Guay wrote:
 
 Tim,
 
 I don't pretend to know anything! As for my thesis, I am merely making 
 assumptions based on statistics and the vast size of our galaxy and the 
 number of stars it contains. No one has decided anything about the nature of 
 our species except the religious. BTW, did you look at the simulation?
 
 I think it might be best to take any further discussions of this nature 
 off-list.
 
 Cheers,
 Roger
 
 
 On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
 
 Message: 9
 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:44:21 -0700
 From: Tim Jones tolis...@me.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
 Message-ID: dabd6b02-27fe-40e6-8df5-3144fce87...@me.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
 
 Ready to defend your thesis?  Let me toss out two great Sci-Fi antithesis 
 to your points below -
 
 How have we determined how long the relatively short duration of the 
 radio stage of any societies is?
 
 How have we decided, even taking asynchronous development into account, 
 that humans aren't the most mature and advanced species in the nearby 
 galaxy?
 
 :-)
 
 Tim
 
 
 On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Roger Guay wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 The SETI project has been in existence for about 50 years, and Enrico 
 Fermi's question asked in the 1940's, Where is everybody? is still 
 germane today.
 
 I think I have finally succeded in building a simulation of two criteria 
 relevant to this SETI problem: 1) The asynchronous evolution of 
 intelligence throughout the galaxy couple with 2) the relatively short 
 duration of the radio stage of alien technologies.
 
 You can download this stack at:
 

 https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblem.livecode
 
 I welcome any feedback.
 
 Thanks and cheers,
 Roger Guay
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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
Thank you Mark . . . that seems to work just fine!


Al, You can download a legacy saved version of SETIproblemL.Livecode at:


https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblemL.livecode

Version 5.5 can be downloaded at: 


https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblem.livecode

Cheers,
Roger




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 Message: 5
 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:17:53 -0700
 From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts.
 Message-ID: 94999150187.20120325111...@ahsoftware.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Roger-
 
 Sunday, March 25, 2012, 11:08:25 AM, you wrote:
 
 Sorry for your difficulty, Al. The best I seem to be able to do
 is to provide SETIproblem in Livecode 5.0.2. I can't find
 StackRunner on Ken's site and the one I have does not open my stack.
 
 Use the Save As menuItem from the File menu and select Legacy for
 the file type.
 
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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Pete
Roger,
I'd love to take a look at your stack but when I download it and open it in
Livecode, I get an error that it is not a stack.  This is with Livecode
5.0.2.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote:

 Tom,

 Please forgive me (especially Tim)  for apparently sounding argumentative.
 Not my intent at all. I was merely trying to say that given the vastness of
 our universe and the number of stars contained in it, many argue that it is
 logical to assume a multitude of intelligent species populating our entire
 galaxy. And given the vast time scale involved, it is also logical to
 assume these alien civilizations will not have evolved simultaneously
 (criterion #1)

 The second criterion is that the radio active stages of technology of
 these civilizations will be short relative to these same vast time scales.
 I'm sure that I am not the first to define this criterion, but I have not
 seen it discussed before. The validity of this is discussed very briefly in
 the simulation notes. Further to this point, I would argue that ALL
 technologies have limited durations, and the simulation allows you to
 adjust it over a very long range (albeit short relative to the vast time
 scales of our galaxy) to your heart's content. I would be happy to discuss
 this at length, but it might be best to do so off-list??

 My simulation starts with these assumptions and explores the outcome.
 These criteria are simply derived from the statistics of the numbers
 involved. There are many more qualified than I to explain the statistics
 involved, and a few references are included in the notes of the simulation.
 For those interested I would would start with the SETI project itself at.


 http://www.seti.org/

 And, the Drake equation says it all . . . statically:


 http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/seti/drake_equation.html

 Thanks and cheers,
 Roger Guay


 On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:56 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

  Message: 6
  Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:54:05 -0400
  From: Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 102, Issue 49
  Message-ID: 02634a04-296a-4fbe-a626-3e7587ff9...@mac.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
 
  I didn't take either comment as overly argumentative but more like a
 challenge (which we tend to do on this list from time to time). For me,
 coming up with two criteria is intriguing and caught my interest. I would
 love to see more on the validity of those two criteria, but what really
 interested me was how Roger translated those to an interesting LC project.
 Very cool. I would love to hear more about that.
 
  -- Tom McGrath III
  http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
  3mcgr...@comcast.net
 
  On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Roger Guay wrote:
 
  Tim,
 
  I don't pretend to know anything! As for my thesis, I am merely making
 assumptions based on statistics and the vast size of our galaxy and the
 number of stars it contains. No one has decided anything about the nature
 of our species except the religious. BTW, did you look at the simulation?
 
  I think it might be best to take any further discussions of this nature
 off-list.
 
  Cheers,
  Roger
 
 
  On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, use-livecode-request@lists.runrev.comwrote:
 
  Message: 9
  Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:44:21 -0700
  From: Tim Jones tolis...@me.com
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
  Message-ID: dabd6b02-27fe-40e6-8df5-3144fce87...@me.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
 
  Ready to defend your thesis?  Let me toss out two great Sci-Fi
 antithesis to your points below -
 
  How have we determined how long the relatively short duration of the
 radio stage of any societies is?
 
  How have we decided, even taking asynchronous development into
 account, that humans aren't the most mature and advanced species in the
 nearby galaxy?
 
  :-)
 
  Tim
 
 
  On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Roger Guay wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  The SETI project has been in existence for about 50 years, and Enrico
 Fermi's question asked in the 1940's, Where is everybody? is still
 germane today.
 
  I think I have finally succeded in building a simulation of two
 criteria relevant to this SETI problem: 1) The asynchronous evolution of
 intelligence throughout the galaxy couple with 2) the relatively short
 duration of the radio stage of alien technologies.
 
  You can download this stack at:
 
 
 https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblem.livecode
 
  I welcome any feedback.
 
  Thanks and cheers,
  Roger Guay
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Re: Difficulty with Reply Size To The List

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
Thanks Mark. That worked for me, in this instance at least.

Cheers,
Roger


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 Message: 9
 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:14:59 +0200
 From: Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Difficulty with Reply Size To The List
 Message-ID: b7b2136c-cbf2-4664-b785-8c3cd8c14...@economy-x-talk.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hi Roger,
 
 Make sure to reply in plain text rather then RTF text. See the format menu 
 for this. I always read and write all my e-mail in plain text. You can set 
 the default message format to plain text in the Composing tab of the Mail 
 preferences window.
 
 --
 Best regards,
 
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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Tim Jones
Roger, Tom and all -

Sorry that everyone took my comments so seriously.  That's why I mentioned that 
they were Sci-Fi ideas.  I was simply playing devil's advocate as my advisor 
did to me on many more than one occasion and poking a bit of fun at SETI.

Personally, I believe that Earth is backwater and so far down the chain of 
technical evolution that the other species simply ignore us.  Either that, or 
the Predator team was correct and Earth's simply a hunting preserve.  But 
don't ask me to defend that position :-P.

Oh, and don't get me started on the missing pieces of Drake's.

Tim

On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

 Tom,
 
 Please forgive me (especially Tim)  for apparently sounding argumentative. 
 Not my intent at all. I was merely trying to say that given the vastness of 
 our universe and the number of stars contained in it, many argue that it is 
 logical to assume a multitude of intelligent species populating our entire 
 galaxy. And given the vast time scale involved, it is also logical to assume 
 these alien civilizations will not have evolved simultaneously (criterion #1)
 
 The second criterion is that the radio active stages of technology of these 
 civilizations will be short relative to these same vast time scales. I'm sure 
 that I am not the first to define this criterion, but I have not seen it 
 discussed before. The validity of this is discussed very briefly in the 
 simulation notes. Further to this point, I would argue that ALL technologies 
 have limited durations, and the simulation allows you to adjust it over a 
 very long range (albeit short relative to the vast time scales of our galaxy) 
 to your heart's content. I would be happy to discuss this at length, but it 
 might be best to do so off-list??
 
 My simulation starts with these assumptions and explores the outcome. These 
 criteria are simply derived from the statistics of the numbers involved. 
 There are many more qualified than I to explain the statistics involved, and 
 a few references are included in the notes of the simulation. For those 
 interested I would would start with the SETI project itself at. 
 
   
 http://www.seti.org/
 
 And, the Drake equation says it all . . . statically:
 
   
 http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/seti/drake_equation.html
 
 Thanks and cheers,
 Roger Guay


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Re: Playing Flash Video?

2012-03-26 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Trevor,


Trevor DeVore wrote
 
 I know someone who would like to add Flash video playback to a LiveCode
 project that already supports QuickTime and DirectShow. It must be
 possible
 to query the duration and current time of the video, set the current time,
 and play/pause the video via script.
 
 I'm looking for anyone who has done work in this area and might be able to
 help them out. Please contact me off-list.
 

Look at this message thread:
http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-F-ab-2-5-0-released-and-available-for-download-td332392.html

Jiro Harada published this awesome application, but his
website is offline.

Probably, you should contact him via email.

Al

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Re: Android 4

2012-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/26/12 10:16 AM, Devin Asay wrote:

Mark,

I downloaded Jacque's Casey's Solitaire app to an ASUS Transformer
Prime running Android 4.0.3 and it runs flawlessly. I have also run
several simple test apps on this tablet with no problem. (I am
building for Android 2.3.3.)


Cool! Good to know, thanks.

I don't believe Casey has ever had the opportunity to soil such a 
high-class device before.


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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
The assumptions in discussions like these are extremely numerous, approaching 
the very number of stars themselves. Why for instance, should we suppose that 
any alien life form is similar to us? What if an intelligent life form was 
aquatic, and lived on a planet where the atmosphere was deadly to them? What 
possible motive could they have to develop radio technology in the first place, 
and who can assume that our radio technology would even work in their 
atmosphere? What if the magnetic flux field of their planet was so strong, or 
the chemical makeup so different that radio transmissions of our kind would 
never even penetrate it, never mind be something they would deploy? 

What if their great superior reasoning led them to conclude that the time, 
efforts and resources to even attempt to travel at or near light speeds, or 
else attempt to bend space-time was so vast, and the probability of failure to 
find a race like enough to themselves so great, and the time dilation that 
would occur so devastating to any hope of communicating or traveling back to 
where they came from, that it became a common child's joke amongst the great 
races of the universe without them even knowing it between them? So many what 
if's, so little time-space. 

Our minds are so small that they cannot comprehend how many factors go into 
making our planet exactly the planet it is. There are so many balances, both 
terrestrial and extra-terrestrial, which if unbalanced by so much as 5% or less 
would render human life on this planet absolutely impossible. And we hope to 
find a planet so like ours, and then hope that life on that planet has evolved 
(the greatest begging of a question that ever there was) so like us as to allow 
any communication at all? This discussion can happen at all because of the 
human mind's inability to focus on and balance very many things at one time and 
measure a thesis against all other things that could weigh upon it. We simply 
do not possess the wisdom and mental faculty to treat such a subject. 

No, my friends, I think all conversation along these lines is so incredibly 
presumptuous, it is staggering when you really begin to think of everything we 
take as a given or gloss over when discussing such things. Sorry all you Star 
Trek fans, and anyone else I have likely offended. I love science fiction as 
much as the next person, but I think any race of beings wise enough to 
comprehend the real logistics of space travel or communication across such 
great distances would conclude right away that it was a total waste of their 
limited resources, better spent on improving their own state of affairs. 

(Let the flames begin!;-)

Bob


On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Roger Guay wrote:

 Tom,
 
 Please forgive me (especially Tim)  for apparently sounding argumentative. 
 Not my intent at all. I was merely trying to say that given the vastness of 
 our universe and the number of stars contained in it, many argue that it is 
 logical to assume a multitude of intelligent species populating our entire 
 galaxy. And given the vast time scale involved, it is also logical to assume 
 these alien civilizations will not have evolved simultaneously (criterion #1)
 
 The second criterion is that the radio active stages of technology of these 
 civilizations will be short relative to these same vast time scales. I'm sure 
 that I am not the first to define this criterion, but I have not seen it 
 discussed before. The validity of this is discussed very briefly in the 
 simulation notes. Further to this point, I would argue that ALL technologies 
 have limited durations, and the simulation allows you to adjust it over a 
 very long range (albeit short relative to the vast time scales of our galaxy) 
 to your heart's content. I would be happy to discuss this at length, but it 
 might be best to do so off-list??
 
 My simulation starts with these assumptions and explores the outcome. These 
 criteria are simply derived from the statistics of the numbers involved. 
 There are many more qualified than I to explain the statistics involved, and 
 a few references are included in the notes of the simulation. For those 
 interested I would would start with the SETI project itself at. 
 
   
 http://www.seti.org/
 
 And, the Drake equation says it all . . . statically:
 
   
 http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/seti/drake_equation.html
 
 Thanks and cheers,
 Roger Guay
 
 
 On Mar 25, 2012, at 7:56 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
 
 Message: 6
 Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:54:05 -0400
 From: Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 102, Issue 49
 Message-ID: 02634a04-296a-4fbe-a626-3e7587ff9...@mac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
 
 I didn't take either comment as overly argumentative 

Re: Android 4

2012-03-26 Thread Devin Asay
On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:13 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

 On 3/26/12 10:16 AM, Devin Asay wrote:
 Mark,
 
 I downloaded Jacque's Casey's Solitaire app to an ASUS Transformer
 Prime running Android 4.0.3 and it runs flawlessly. I have also run
 several simple test apps on this tablet with no problem. (I am
 building for Android 2.3.3.)
 
 Cool! Good to know, thanks.
 
 I don't believe Casey has ever had the opportunity to soil such a high-class 
 device before.

Well, I have to use the ultra-high-res virtual tissues to get it clean.

Devin

Devin Asay
Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University




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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Ray

On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

 Hi Bob,
 thanks for your hints.
 For windows standalones you can set the UAC Execution Level to require
 Admin. So LC knows, who's logged in. I wonder, if we can retrieve this
 information from LC?

You can get the name of the user that is logged in by checking the environment 
variables $USERNAME (on Windows) and $USER (on Mac). As to the user's 
permission level, this is what I use (watch line wraps):


function stsIsAdminUser pName, pComputer
  put stsAdminUserList(pComputer) into tList
  return (pName is among the lines of tList)
end stsIsAdminUser

function stsAdminUserList pOpt_ComputerName
  switch (the platform)
case MacOS
  put shell(dscl . read /groups/admin) into tData
  filter tData with GroupMembership:*
  put line 1 of tData into tList  -- strip other lines if there are any
  delete word 1 of tList
  replace space with CR in tList
  break
case Win32
  put Set objGroup = GetObject(  q(WinNT://  pOpt_ComputerName  
/administrators,group)  )  cr   \
  For Each objMember in objGroup.Members  cr  \
  If tAdminList =   quote  quote  Then  cr  \
  tAdminList = objMember.name  cr  Else  cr  \
  tAdminList = tAdminList + vbCrLf + objMember.name  cr  \
  End If  cr  \
  Next  cr  \
  result = tAdminList into tScript
  
  do script tScript as VBScript
  put the result into tList
  break
  end switch
  return tList
end stsAdminUserList

Hope this helps,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Ray

On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:

 Hi friends,
 
 I created a win installer app which uses HTTPS, so the revsecurtity.dll is 
 obviously neccessary.
 But I would like to only deploy a SINGLE EXE file if possible, ZIPping the 
 thing is no option.
 
 Unfortunately this special DLL cannot be installed dynamically and 
 temporarily like other DLLs.
 Can it? Anything I am missing?

Just curious… why do you think it can't be installed dynamically or 
temporarily like other DLLs?

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Mark,

Am 26.03.2012 um 19:46 schrieb Mark Schonewille:

 Hi Klaus,
 
 If it was what you expected, then it probably makes sense one way or another. 
 I wouldn't have proposed it if you had mentioned that an installer is no 
 option for the project.

Take it easy, Mark, that was not meant to insult in any way! :-)

 Probably, the only possibility is to install the external yourself. If you 
 write it to disk first and then open a dummy stack that has the external 
 property set to the path to the external and start using the dummy stack, 
 then the external should be available.

I think this is not the case with that namely DLL!

I am afraid the engine will search the folder with the EXE for the DLL and not 
the externals of whatever stack...

 --
 Best regards,
 
 Mark Schonewille

Best

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Ken,

Am 26.03.2012 um 20:52 schrieb Ken Ray:

 
 On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:
 
 Hi friends,
 
 I created a win installer app which uses HTTPS, so the revsecurtity.dll is 
 obviously neccessary.
 But I would like to only deploy a SINGLE EXE file if possible, ZIPping the 
 thing is no option.
 
 Unfortunately this special DLL cannot be installed dynamically and 
 temporarily like other DLLs.
 Can it? Anything I am missing?
 
 Just curious… why do you think it can't be installed dynamically or 
 temporarily like other DLLs?

because it gets installed into the EXE folder and not into subfolder 
externals!
I thougt this is a very special case of DLL.

I would gladly be wrong :-)

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

Best

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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Did I just call you Ray?? You can call me Fred then. ;-) Sorry bout that Ken. 

Bob

 Oooh thanks for that Ray. That is going in my Library. :-)
 
 Bob
 

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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Ken,

Am 26.03.2012 um 20:47 schrieb Ken Ray:

 On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
 
 Hi Bob,
 thanks for your hints.
 For windows standalones you can set the UAC Execution Level to require
 Admin. So LC knows, who's logged in. I wonder, if we can retrieve this
 information from LC?
 
 You can get the name of the user that is logged in by checking the 
 environment variables $USERNAME (on Windows) and $USER (on Mac). As to the 
 user's permission level, this is what I use (watch line wraps):
 function stsIsAdminUser pName, pComputer

what is pComputer, resp. how do I get this value?

  put stsAdminUserList(pComputer) into tList
 ...
 end stsAdminUserList
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Ken Ray

Best

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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Ray
 You can get the name of the user that is logged in by checking the 
 environment variables $USERNAME (on Windows) and $USER (on Mac). As to the 
 user's permission level, this is what I use (watch line wraps):
 function stsIsAdminUser pName, pComputer
 
 what is pComputer, resp. how do I get this value?

Whoops! Sorry, you can pass the environment variable $COMPUTERNAME under 
Windows (it's not needed for Mac) … I call the function like this on Windows:

   put stsIsAdminUser($USERNAME,$COMPUTERNAME) into tResult


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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Mike Bonner
Could you stuff the dll into a property, then on run put place it in temp
folder and

set the externals of stack blah to (a list of externals including path..)



On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote:

 Hi Ken,

 Am 26.03.2012 um 20:52 schrieb Ken Ray:

 
  On Mar 26, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote:
 
  Hi friends,
 
  I created a win installer app which uses HTTPS, so the
 revsecurtity.dll is obviously neccessary.
  But I would like to only deploy a SINGLE EXE file if possible, ZIPping
 the thing is no option.
 
  Unfortunately this special DLL cannot be installed dynamically and
 temporarily like other DLLs.
  Can it? Anything I am missing?
 
  Just curious… why do you think it can't be installed dynamically or
 temporarily like other DLLs?

 because it gets installed into the EXE folder and not into subfolder
 externals!
 I thougt this is a very special case of DLL.

 I would gladly be wrong :-)

  Ken Ray
  Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
  Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
  Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

 Best

 Klaus

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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Ken,

Am 26.03.2012 um 21:32 schrieb Ken Ray:

 You can get the name of the user that is logged in by checking the 
 environment variables $USERNAME (on Windows) and $USER (on Mac). As to the 
 user's permission level, this is what I use (watch line wraps):
 function stsIsAdminUser pName, pComputer
 what is pComputer, resp. how do I get this value?
 
 Whoops! Sorry, you can pass the environment variable $COMPUTERNAME under 
 Windows (it's not needed for Mac) … I call the function like this on Windows:
   put stsIsAdminUser($USERNAME,$COMPUTERNAME) into tResult

Ah, OK, thanks! :-)

 Ken Ray
 Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
 Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/

Best

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About item in Application Menu

2012-03-26 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
On my current application I'm building custom menus that appear on the cards so 
that I can make them larger and they'll appear the same on both the Mac and 
Windows versions; however, I haven't figured out how to set up the About item 
on the Application Menu. Any suggestions?

TIA,
Joe Wilkins
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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Mike,

Am 26.03.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Mike Bonner:

 Could you stuff the dll into a property, then on run put place it in temp
 folder and
 
 set the externals of stack blah to (a list of externals including path..)

yes, I could and have done before :-)

But THIS special DLL revsecurtity.dll is NOT and NEVER listed in any 
externals of stack XYZ!


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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Klaus

Here's an idea. Create a command line exe to do anything you need that dll for 
and write it and the dll to the temp dir on startup.

Cheers

--
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On 27/03/2012, at 6:42 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 Am 26.03.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Mike Bonner:
 
 Could you stuff the dll into a property, then on run put place it in temp
 folder and
 
 set the externals of stack blah to (a list of externals including path..)
 
 yes, I could and have done before :-)
 
 But THIS special DLL revsecurtity.dll is NOT and NEVER listed in any 
 externals of stack XYZ!
 
 
 Best
 
 Klaus
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 kl...@major.on-rev.com
 
 
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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Mike Bonner
Oh doh. I understand your query now. revpdfprinter is apparently in the
same boat too.

Montes idea sounds great, also had a thought.

Since it looks for the dll next to the exe, sounds like if you can set the
default folder early enough to point to a temp folder and copy the dll
there before reaching the point of externals loading it just might find it.
 Not sure if this is even possible of course.

go with the monte idea!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote:

 Hi Mike,

 Am 26.03.2012 um 21:35 schrieb Mike Bonner:

  Could you stuff the dll into a property, then on run put place it in temp
  folder and
 
  set the externals of stack blah to (a list of externals including
 path..)

 yes, I could and have done before :-)

 But THIS special DLL revsecurtity.dll is NOT and NEVER listed in any
 externals of stack XYZ!


 Best

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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Monte,

Am 26.03.2012 um 21:57 schrieb Monte Goulding:

 Hi Klaus
 
 Here's an idea. Create a command line exe to do anything you need that dll 
 for and write it and the dll to the temp dir on startup.

very funny, but that was not the question! :-)

 Cheers

Best

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Re: About item in Application Menu

2012-03-26 Thread Pete
Hi Joe,
I haven't made custom menus like this but LC's convention for regular menus
is to treat the last line in your Help menu as the About item on the Mac
Application menu.  In other words, it will leave that item where it is on
the Help menu for Widnows systems, but move it to the Apllication menu for
OS X systems.
Pete

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 On my current application I'm building custom menus that appear on the
 cards so that I can make them larger and they'll appear the same on both
 the Mac and Windows versions; however, I haven't figured out how to set up
 the About item on the Application Menu. Any suggestions?

 TIA,
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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/26/12 1:47 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


You can get the name of the user that is logged in by checking the
environment variables $USERNAME (on Windows) and $USER (on Mac). As
to the user's permission level, this is what I use


Geez, is there *anything* you don't know? Quick: what rhymes with orange?

(I'm saving your script for future reference, as always.)

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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
The original link is to a version 5.5. Can you use the legacy saved version 
available at?:


https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblemL.livecode

Roger


On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Message: 7
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:01:28 -0700
 From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
 Message-ID:
   cabx6j9k4+d061urjrjjgmph_qxo2fykabfaqqxb1rwgrsr+...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Roger,
 I'd love to take a look at your stack but when I download it and open it in
 Livecode, I get an error that it is not a stack.  This is with Livecode
 5.0.2.
 Pete


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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Monte Goulding
 Here's an idea. Create a command line exe to do anything you need that dll 
 for and write it and the dll to the temp dir on startup.
 
 very funny, but that was not the question! :-)

I'm not sure why it was funny. Wasn't meant to be.

I thought you asked for possibilities for installing that dll temporarily or 
dynamically?

Cheers

Monte
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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Monte,

I thought it was supposed to be neither temporarily nor dynamically. I think 
Klaus should just try some of the options listed in this thread and let us know 
what doesn't work.

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Get the extIco2Png external for LiveCode here http://qery.us/1w6

On 26 mrt 2012, at 22:17, Monte Goulding wrote:

 
 I'm not sure why it was funny. Wasn't meant to be.
 
 I thought you asked for possibilities for installing that dll temporarily or 
 dynamically?
 
 Cheers
 
 Monte


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On SaveStack Solution for Save as Legacy LiveCode Stack 2.7?

2012-03-26 Thread Barry G. Sumpter
Up a bit too late again last night n saved a LiveCode Server 5.0.2 stack as
5.5.

I keep loosing my Preferences Preserve Stack ticked on.
I'm sure its the sequence of events surrounding switching from 4.6.4 ide to
the 5.5 ide.

Is there a way to trap the On SaveStack subroutine on my LiveCode Sever
5.0.2 stack?
To somehow change the Preferences Preserve Stack file tick to ON.
Or perhaps check the tick and if its not on show a warnign and stop the save
so I can tick on then save?

tia


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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Monte,

Am 26.03.2012 um 22:17 schrieb Monte Goulding:

 Here's an idea. Create a command line exe to do anything you need that dll 
 for and write it and the dll to the temp dir on startup.
 very funny, but that was not the question! :-)
 I'm not sure why it was funny. Wasn't meant to be.

sorry, my fault, I may have misunderstood you. :-)

 I thought you asked for possibilities for installing that dll temporarily or 
 dynamically?

Yes, but I was hoping for a waaay easier solution ;-)

 Cheers
 
 Monte

Best

Klaus

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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
No flames, Bob. I wouldn't argue with any one of your points except to say that 
we do in fact have a SETI project looking for other civilizations, and it makes 
extremely numerous assumptions, as you say. But, the bottom line is that it's a 
numbers game based on the vast numbers of stars and scale of our galaxy. Better 
minds than mine have felt it worthwhile to look/listen for alien technologies 
that may be a very small subset of the spectrum you speak of.

If we come to believe that this is a fool's errand which I gather is your 
position, then any technologies like ours will soon come to the same 
conclusion, thereby shortening the radio active phase of their technologies, 
and thus dramatically decreasing chance encounters of civilization as my 
simulation dramatizes!

Thanks for your help!

Cheers,
Roger



On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Message: 12
 Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:28:29 -0700
 From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
 Message-ID: 2b937175-9284-4c54-9232-ac35c1bdd...@twft.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 The assumptions in discussions like these are extremely numerous, approaching 
 the very number of stars themselves. Why for instance, should we suppose that 
 any alien life form is similar to us? What if an intelligent life form was 
 aquatic, and lived on a planet where the atmosphere was deadly to them? What 
 possible motive could they have to develop radio technology in the first 
 place, and who can assume that our radio technology would even work in their 
 atmosphere? What if the magnetic flux field of their planet was so strong, or 
 the chemical makeup so different that radio transmissions of our kind would 
 never even penetrate it, never mind be something they would deploy? 
 
 What if their great superior reasoning led them to conclude that the time, 
 efforts and resources to even attempt to travel at or near light speeds, or 
 else attempt to bend space-time was so vast, and the probability of failure 
 to find a race like enough to themselves so great, and the time dilation that 
 would occur so devastating to any hope of communicating or traveling back to 
 where they came from, that it became a common child's joke amongst the great 
 races of the universe without them even knowing it between them? So many 
 what if's, so little time-space. 
 
 Our minds are so small that they cannot comprehend how many factors go into 
 making our planet exactly the planet it is. There are so many balances, both 
 terrestrial and extra-terrestrial, which if unbalanced by so much as 5% or 
 less would render human life on this planet absolutely impossible. And we 
 hope to find a planet so like ours, and then hope that life on that planet 
 has evolved (the greatest begging of a question that ever there was) so like 
 us as to allow any communication at all? This discussion can happen at all 
 because of the human mind's inability to focus on and balance very many 
 things at one time and measure a thesis against all other things that could 
 weigh upon it. We simply do not possess the wisdom and mental faculty to 
 treat such a subject. 
 
 No, my friends, I think all conversation along these lines is so incredibly 
 presumptuous, it is staggering when you really begin to think of everything 
 we take as a given or gloss over when discussing such things. Sorry all you 
 Star Trek fans, and anyone else I have likely offended. I love science 
 fiction as much as the next person, but I think any race of beings wise 
 enough to comprehend the real logistics of space travel or communication 
 across such great distances would conclude right away that it was a total 
 waste of their limited resources, better spent on improving their own state 
 of affairs. 
 
 (Let the flames begin!;-)
 
 Bob


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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Roger Guay
I would love to get you started on the missing pieces of Drake's. But, perhaps 
off list??


Roger


On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

 Oh, and don't get me started on the missing pieces of Drake's.


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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Monte Goulding


 
 Yes, but I was hoping for a waaay easier solution ;-)

Maybe look for an alternative command line solution you can distribute with 
your app then.
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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Pete
Yes, thanks Roger - I missed that in the thread before sending my email.

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Roger Guay i...@mac.com wrote:

 The original link is to a version 5.5. Can you use the legacy saved
 version available at?:


 https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblemL.livecode

 Roger


 On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

  Message: 7
  Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 11:01:28 -0700
  From: Pete p...@mollysrevenge.com
  To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
  Message-ID:

 cabx6j9k4+d061urjrjjgmph_qxo2fykabfaqqxb1rwgrsr+...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  Roger,
  I'd love to take a look at your stack but when I download it and open it
 in
  Livecode, I get an error that it is not a stack.  This is with Livecode
  5.0.2.
  Pete


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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Pete
All I can say, Bob, is if the great thinkers, scientists, and philospohers
of the years had that attitude, we'd still be living in caves.
Pete

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 This discussion can happen at all because of the human mind's inability to
 focus on and balance very many things at one time and measure a thesis
 against all other things that could weigh upon it. We simply do not possess
 the wisdom and mental faculty to treat such a subject.

 No, my friends, I think all conversation along these lines is so
 incredibly presumptuous, it is staggering when you really begin to think of
 everything we take as a given or gloss over when discussing such things.
 Sorry all you Star Trek fans, and anyone else I have likely offended. I
 love science fiction as much as the next person, but I think any race of
 beings wise enough to comprehend the real logistics of space travel or
 communication across such great distances would conclude right away that it
 was a total waste of their limited resources, better spent on improving
 their own state of affairs.




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iOS: activity indicator usage

2012-03-26 Thread Chris Sheffield
I'm trying to display an activity indicator in my iOS iPad app, but it doesn't 
seem to be working. I do have the screen locked. Does that prevent the 
indicator from appearing? Seems like to me it shouldn't, but want to make sure. 
If so, I guess I'll have to figure out some other way to make it work.

Also, totally different topic.. For anyone on the dev list, is it down right 
now? I haven't seen any new messages since this morning, and a couple messages 
I've sent haven't gone through.

Thanks,
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Re: On SaveStack Solution for Save as Legacy LiveCode Stack 2.7?

2012-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/26/12 3:25 PM, Barry G. Sumpter wrote:

Up a bit too late again last night n saved a LiveCode Server 5.0.2 stack as
5.5.

I keep loosing my Preferences Preserve Stack ticked on.
I'm sure its the sequence of events surrounding switching from 4.6.4 ide to
the 5.5 ide.


The first thing to try is to trash your prefs file and let LiveCode make 
a new one. That usually solves things. You'll have to reset any prefs 
you'd previously changed.


If you can't find the prefs file, let us know what OS you're running and 
someone can give you a path. I've forgotten the Windows one but on Mac 
it's in the user library's prefs folder.


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Re: How to get the user or his rights?

2012-03-26 Thread Ken Ray
 Geez, is there *anything* you don't know? Quick: what rhymes with orange?

Sporange

:D

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Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/  

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Re: iOS: activity indicator usage

2012-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 3/26/12 4:35 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote:


Also, totally different topic.. For anyone on the dev list, is it
down right now? I haven't seen any new messages since this morning,
and a couple messages I've sent haven't gone through.


I don't know about your first question, but a new message just came 
through the dev list about 5 mins ago.


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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
The leap from cave to field is not even comparable to the leap from terrestrial 
to extra-terrestrial. You can always get back to the cave from the field in 
time for supper. :-)

Bob


On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Pete wrote:

 All I can say, Bob, is if the great thinkers, scientists, and philospohers
 of the years had that attitude, we'd still be living in caves.
 Pete
 
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
 This discussion can happen at all because of the human mind's inability to
 focus on and balance very many things at one time and measure a thesis
 against all other things that could weigh upon it. We simply do not possess
 the wisdom and mental faculty to treat such a subject.
 
 No, my friends, I think all conversation along these lines is so
 incredibly presumptuous, it is staggering when you really begin to think of
 everything we take as a given or gloss over when discussing such things.
 Sorry all you Star Trek fans, and anyone else I have likely offended. I
 love science fiction as much as the next person, but I think any race of
 beings wise enough to comprehend the real logistics of space travel or
 communication across such great distances would conclude right away that it
 was a total waste of their limited resources, better spent on improving
 their own state of affairs.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Collisions

2012-03-26 Thread Jim Hurley
Richard,

That 9 ball stack is a bit wonkish.

I have extracted from that stack the basic elements that illustrate the 
collision process. It can be found in:

   go url http://jamesphurley.com/jhurleyFolder/TwoBallCollisions.livecode;

It illustrates the physics of the ideal collision. The momenta along the line 
of the collision (the line joining  the two centers of the balls) is exchanged 
in the collision, while the momenta (velocities) perpendicular to this line are 
unaffected in the collission. That is the very definition of an ideal elastic 
impact.
  
But you needn't  worry about all that, just  use the newVel function to 
generate the after collision velocities given the before collision velocities.

Jim


 
 Message: 10
 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:23:13 -0400
 From: Richard MacLemale rich...@richardmac.com
 To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Collisions
 Message-ID: 6b8c015f-1509-451a-adf0-fb934c89d...@richardmac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Jim,
 
 Thanks for taking the time to respond with such great explanations!  Of 
 course, since I spent most of my time in high school math staring at a girl 
 named Lisa, it's a bit challenging for me.  I downloaded the 9 ball example 
 and plan on spending a lot of time learning how it works.  Thanks for sharing 
 your knowledge - I really appreciate it.  
 
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 Programming = http://www.macandchee.se
 


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How to upload iOS camera image to server?

2012-03-26 Thread John Patten
Hi All...

I have a little project where I'd like the iOS app to load an image taken via 
the camera to a directory on my on-rev account. I'm making the name of each 
image unique so there is no danger of overwriting an existing image.

What is the best way to go about doing this? I've looked at the list and have 
seen some discussion regarding using liburlmultiformdata but that does not 
appear to be iOS compatible. I saw the ftp command is compatible with iOS, 
however then I'd have to supply a username and password in the open, and I 
believe there is a certain amount of risk doing it that way.

In addition, I'm going to be inserting a record in a mysql database with some 
text information via the iOS app, such as the name of the image, date, etc. 
Then just referencing the uploaded image from the directory where I store them 
when I report out the results using a query.

What would be the cleanest, least risky manner of uploading a iOS camera image 
to a directory in on-rev?

Thank you!

John Patten
SUSD





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Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts

2012-03-26 Thread Michael Kann
“Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, 
the thought is quite staggering”

 
   Buckminster Fuller
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Re: revsecurtity.dll

2012-03-26 Thread Terry Judd
Hi Klaus,

Again, this might not be the solution you're looking for, but you could hide 
the dll. We use this approach on cross-platform USB drives we give to all our 
students. Both the revsecurity.dll and revpdfprinter.dll get hidden along with 
a bunch of folders we don't want the students poking around in.

On Windows we hide the necessary files/folders by setting their system and 
hidden flags like this (assuming thePaths contains a cr delimited list of valid 
file/folder paths )...

set the hideconsolewindows to true
put empty into tErrors
repeat for each line tPath in thePaths
put theFoldertPath into tPath
if last char of tPath = slash then
delete last char of tPath
end if
replace / with \ in tPath
put attrib  +s +h quotetPathquote into tScript
get shell(tScript)
if it is not empty then
put it cr after tErrors
end if
end repeat
return tErrors

...now of course the file will still be visible if the end user has hidden 
system files set to be visible but in our experience this is rarely the case 
(some users choose to show hidden files but very few show hidden system files).

If you can't hide the file beforehand then you can easily run the above routine 
the first time the application is run - at least that way it's only visible 
briefly.

Terry...

On 27/03/2012, at 07:45 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:

 
 
 
 Yes, but I was hoping for a waaay easier solution ;-)
 
 Maybe look for an alternative command line solution you can distribute with 
 your app then.
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CalendarWidget

2012-03-26 Thread Charles Szasz
on mouseUp
   if dialogdata is not empty
   then
  put item 2 of dialogdata into t 
  put / after t
  put item 3 of dialogdata after t 
  put / after t
  put item 1 of dialogdata into s 
  delete character 1 to 2 of s 
  put s after t 
  put t into field date1 of stack My app
   else
  put the uMonth of group calendarWidget of card id 1002 into t
  put / after t
  put the uMonth of group calendarWidget of card id 1002 after t 
  put / after t
  put the uYear of group calendarWidget of card id 1002 into s
  delete character 1 to 2 of s
  put s after t
  put t into field date1 of stack My app
   end if
   close this stack
end mouseUp

What changes do I need to make so calendarWidget 101 can insert dates in other 
fields?

Charles Szasz
csz...@mac.com




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