Re: ANN: PreOrder FieldTrip (100%)
Just curious if there's any news, updates on progress, expected release dates? Paul On 2012-06-21, at 9:25 PM, Curry Kenworthy wrote: We now have reached over 100% of what I estimated was the critical funding necessary to ensure the birth of FieldTrip! Yay! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone
I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as a standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly disappearing and opening my main stack ; that works well for years now. I will contact runrev Best regards André Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit : Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. Bob On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote: wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone. Except with PowerDebug, of course. g. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
Hi Roger, I'm just using the URL Google provides for each sheet which is shown when you Publish a sheet. You can select CSV as the 'type' and which sheet you want the URL for-- and Google generates the URL. Then you just get the URL: get URL http://googlespreadheets.com/yada/yada; and it's returned as CSV. I'm not POSTING data to the sheet, just reading from it. Yep, I need to get the resize LIB completed-- will be working on it soon. Tonight I finished rebuilding altButton so it now uses images instead of btn icons-- so now EVERYTHING scales-- Hurray! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone
I think that copy pasted used to be part of the standard library. This is a stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your standalones. However, in a version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy paste stuff got removed from there. Or it was an engine feature, that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no standalone can do copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to do it. On 14.07.2012, at 09:36, André Bisseret wrote: I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as a standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly disappearing and opening my main stack ; that works well for years now. I will contact runrev Best regards André Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit : Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. Bob On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote: wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone. Except with PowerDebug, of course. g. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
What are the options to implement a reminder system in an ios/LC app which will alert the user periodically on their ios device, even though the app is not running in the foreground? For example, the user runs the app and sets it to remind them twice daily to do a specific task. How can this reminder be implemented? Some ideas: - push notification (is this fairly easy to implement?) - having an external server send SMS messages to the user's device on the specified time interval - something similar to the way various ios Alarm clock apps work... but I don't know if this can be implemented through LC. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
Check out local notifications, in the iOS release notes, for alarm clock like alarms and messages. Push notifications are non-trivial. SMS would require a connection. - Charles On 2012-07-14, at 8:35 AM, Richard Miller wrote: What are the options to implement a reminder system in an ios/LC app which will alert the user periodically on their ios device, even though the app is not running in the foreground? For example, the user runs the app and sets it to remind them twice daily to do a specific task. How can this reminder be implemented? Some ideas: - push notification (is this fairly easy to implement?) - having an external server send SMS messages to the user's device on the specified time interval - something similar to the way various ios Alarm clock apps work... but I don't know if this can be implemented through LC. Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald Charles Buchwald Friends Simply better smartphone apps. http://buchwald.ca email: char...@buchwald.ca Skype: charles_buchwald Vancouver • New York City • Mexico DF Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter • Read my blog • Connect on Facebook Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
Try local notifications. This is how you set up one notification: mobileCreateLocalNotification alertBody, alertButtonMessage, alertPayload, alertTime, playSound alertTime is the Unix time that you want the alert to happen. See the help entry for more details on the other things. At the time that the notification happens, the user will see a message pop up on their screen. If they touch the message it will open your app, and a message is sent to you. Here's a handler for receiving that message: on localNotificationReceived pMsg answer Local Notification: pMsg end localNotificationReceived The pMsg received is the same as the alertPayload sent in, and that can be as complex as you like. There isn't a way to have a notification happen that automatically opens your app. Working out the Unix time for the event is an entertaining little aspect to the problem. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) after the name of somebody who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a physician, an MB). On writing to somebody who has Esq. after their name one usually begins a letter: Dear Mr Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be pompous by putting Esq. after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself Mr and they address the envelope Richmond Mathewson. Esq.) is to address them in one of the following ways: Oi Mate Hey You or Me Old Mucker Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: validating per use licensing
1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) after the name of somebody who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a physician, an MB). On writing to somebody who has Esq. after their name one usually begins a letter: Dear Mr Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be pompous by putting Esq. after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself Mr and they address the envelope Richmond Mathewson. Esq.) is to address them in one of the following ways: Oi Mate Hey You or Me Old Mucker Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
Thanks. I'm looking into this. At first glance, it appears that... whenever the app is not running... this method will only tell the user that a local notification is waiting to be viewed. It cannot display the actual message until the user presses the View button, which then opens the app to display the message. Do I understand this correctly? Thanks. Richard On 7/14/2012 10:09 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Try local notifications. This is how you set up one notification: mobileCreateLocalNotification alertBody, alertButtonMessage, alertPayload, alertTime, playSound alertTime is the Unix time that you want the alert to happen. See the help entry for more details on the other things. At the time that the notification happens, the user will see a message pop up on their screen. If they touch the message it will open your app, and a message is sent to you. Here's a handler for receiving that message: on localNotificationReceived pMsg answer Local Notification: pMsg end localNotificationReceived The pMsg received is the same as the alertPayload sent in, and that can be as complex as you like. There isn't a way to have a notification happen that automatically opens your app. Working out the Unix time for the event is an entertaining little aspect to the problem. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On 07/14/2012 05:23 PM, John Dixon wrote: 1 ( Esquire) (abbr.: Esq.) a title appended to a lawyer's surname. Richmond... me old mucker ...Does it really matter ? Yer right mate! Only to people who feel desperately insecure and have to bolster up their egos with fancy bits popped on the front or the end of their names. On 07/14/2012 03:58 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. On Friday, July 13, 2012, Dr. Hawkins wrote: snip The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) after the name of somebody who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a physician, an MB). On writing to somebody who has Esq. after their name one usually begins a letter: Dear Mr Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be pompous by putting Esq. after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself Mr and they address the envelope Richmond Mathewson. Esq.) is to address them in one of the following ways: Oi Mate Hey You or Me Old Mucker Love, kisses and 'we now live in the 21st century', Mr Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
No. The alertBody and alertButtonMessage let you give a brief version of the notification, and that will appear at the time it happens, if your app is not open at the time. On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: It cannot display the actual message until the user presses the View button, which then opens the app to display the message. Do I understand this correctly? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
Chipp, Thanks for the email! I look forward to the day that you guys release this library. Oh and by the way, that app looks good! Cheers andre On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: Hi Roger, I'm just using the URL Google provides for each sheet which is shown when you Publish a sheet. You can select CSV as the 'type' and which sheet you want the URL for-- and Google generates the URL. Then you just get the URL: get URL http://googlespreadheets.com/yada/yada; and it's returned as CSV. I'm not POSTING data to the sheet, just reading from it. Yep, I need to get the resize LIB completed-- will be working on it soon. Tonight I finished rebuilding altButton so it now uses images instead of btn icons-- so now EVERYTHING scales-- Hurray! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Connecting to Facebook?
It changed recently... I am patching my libraries but I've reached an odd bug where the library works on iOS but not on Mac OS which is really not the way things usually go. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.cawrote: I'd like to connect to Facebook to post to the wall. I've tried the tutorial Accessing Facebook Api's using LiveCode. I found Andre's libraries for Social Networks, and tried the example stacks and guide there. For both of these, I can get as far as authorizing the app, but no further. I've searched the forum and elsewhere, without other useful insights. Does anyone know if the Facebook API's have changed recently? Have you had any success connecting with FB? So far my best alternative idea is to copy a message to the clipboard from within my stack, and direct the the user to FB in a browser, where they could then paste it. But I would prefer to do it fewer steps. Any ideas? -- Charles E. Buchwald http://buchwald.ca Vancouver / Mexico City / NYC Member of the 02 Global Network for Sustainable Design • Connect on LinkedIn • Follow me on Twitter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: finding the mousecolor in IOS
On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: One exercise in that book I wrote is about using an image as a color picker. It uses the same technique as Scott mentioned, only I then set the color of another graphic to show that it has picked up the right color. One thing to double check, the x and y values you're using, are those from the top left of the image? With mousecolor you use the card position, but with this imagedata technique you would subtract the left and top of the image in question, unless the image is the whole card. function relativeXY tObjRef,x,y -- input: x,y (card coordinates) -- output: coordinates relative to an object's rect put the topleft of tObjRef into tl put item 1 of tl into baseHoriz put item 2 of tl into baseVert return (x - baseHoriz comma y - baseVert) end relativeXY -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
Thanks. Seems this functionality is new to LC 5.5. I have 5.0.2 right now, but would upgrade if this can do what I need. I can't read the specific details of this function as of yet. Do you know the maximum length of the alertbody or alertButtonMessage? Thank you. On 7/14/2012 10:45 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: No. The alertBody and alertButtonMessage let you give a brief version of the notification, and that will appear at the time it happens, if your app is not open at the time. On Jul 14, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote: It cannot display the actual message until the user presses the View button, which then opens the app to display the message. Do I understand this correctly? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone
Le 14 juil. 2012 à 15:13, Björnke von Gierke a écrit : I think that copy pasted used to be part of the standard library. This is a stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your standalones. However, in a version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy paste stuff got removed from there. Or it was an engine feature, that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no standalone can do copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to do it. Thank you much Björnke for this information Bad news for me :-(( That means that I can't consider any change to my current standalone! The friend for which I made this app. is a physician ; he is using it daily for 5 or 6 years now and he has something like 600 medical files (one stack per patient)!! Fortunately, the standalone I made with a previous version allows copy-paste (that he is using a lot) Well, I will see what I could do in case a new standalone would be necessary! Thanks again Björnke André On 14.07.2012, at 09:36, André Bisseret wrote: I don't think my problem with copy-paste come from the stack I am saving as a standalone ; there is only a few lines in it (to get it slowly disappearing and opening my main stack ; that works well for years now. I will contact runrev Best regards André Le 14 juil. 2012 à 00:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit : Oh sorry I for some reason thought that the Standalone Debug came with GLX2 but of course not. It's a part of PowerDebug. Bob On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Bob- Friday, July 13, 2012, 9:17:10 AM, you wrote: wouldn't help anyway because we cannot debug a standalone. Except with PowerDebug, of course. g. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: grr. debugging with livecode
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: If a script makes a call to a rev library, it won't break there. Set the breakpoint immediately after that line and it should work. Yes, but seeing how I got there . . . single stepping in card preOpenStack, which passes preOpenStack - skipped: stack preOpenStack, which dumped me in - some other handler. Since I was already single-stepping, this is highly unexpected behavior . . . -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I have a lot of hats :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On 07/14/2012 06:25 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote: So which is it? Esquire or Doctor or Lawyer? Man, that's a lot of hats. Esquire and Lawyer are the same hat in the us. And both Dr. (Economics Statistics) and Lawyer. But yes, I have a lot of hats :) Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however, would you that we address you thus: Dr Hawkins, Mr Hawkins, Attorney Hawkins, Advocate Hawkins, otherwise, or simply Richard ? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature below. after the name of somebody who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a physician, an MB). In the United States, it is put after the name of all admitted attorneys (we don't have a solicitor/barrister distinction). Whether you don't use the Dr. if an Esq., or don't use the Esq. if a Dr., seems to have a split of opinion. If you want to toss in *everything, it's Dr. Richard Edmund Stephen Hawkins, J.D., Ph.D., Esq. On writing to somebody who has Esq. after their name one usually begins a letter: Dear Mr Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be pompous by putting Esq. after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself Mr and they address the envelope Richmond Mathewson. Esq.) is to address them in one of the If I filed a pleading *without* the Esq. in the name in a court that wasn't familiar with me, it would probably trigger a check by the clerk to see if I was a lawyer. And clients expect it; send a letter without one and they ask why the other lawyers have it and you don't . . . OTOH, I've never introduced myself as Dr. Hawkins outside of an academic setting. (however, I'd likely do so in response to an M.D. who introduces himself as Dr. Smith. I'm a real doctor, not a physician, and don't have the inherited inferiority complex (oddly mixed with a God complex) that comes from the modern M.D. being a watered down thing designed with the explicit purpose of borrowing the respect/prestige/not-killing-people of the doctors of the university. Having taken out one of the two key features of what doctor meant for a couple of thousand years, they progressed to claiming to be real doctors. [note: some are, but most have never *contributed* to knowledge]) This account is dochawk instead of hawk for the simple reason that early gmail required at least 6 characters, and my students were already receiving email from a dochawk account at Penn State. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Multi-Hatted you may well be, and all well and jolly that is, however, would you that we address you thus: Dr Hawkins, Mr Hawkins, Attorney Hawkins, Advocate Hawkins, otherwise, or simply Richard ? I answer to so many different things these days . . . Richard, Rick, hawk, doc, dochawk (usually only by reference or in the program name [which picked it up as a reference and it stuck]) Now that I think of it, I think that more people just plain call me doc than anything else (which is kind of odd, as I've never introduced myself as that; I think I can trace almost all of it to a single introduction someone made about three years ago in which he introduced me as Dr. Hawkins -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Presumably it is Dr Hawkins, although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand how to use titles, as one only puts Esq. (notice the full-stop) Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature below. after the name of somebody who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a physician, an MB). In the United States, it is put after the name of all admitted attorneys (we don't have a solicitor/barrister distinction). What is a barrister? I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although we do have writers to the signet. Whether you don't use the Dr. if an Esq., or don't use the Esq. if a Dr., seems to have a split of opinion. If you want to toss in *everything, it's Dr. Richard Edmund Stephen Hawkins, J.D., Ph.D., Esq. On writing to somebody who has Esq. after their name one usually begins a letter: Dear Mr Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be pompous by putting Esq. after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself Mr and they address the envelope Richmond Mathewson. Esq.) is to address them in one of the If I filed a pleading *without* the Esq. in the name in a court that wasn't familiar with me, it would probably trigger a check by the clerk to see if I was a lawyer. And clients expect it; send a letter without one and they ask why the other lawyers have it and you don't . . . OTOH, I've never introduced myself as Dr. Hawkins outside of an academic setting. (however, I'd likely do so in response to an M.D. who introduces himself as Dr. Smith. I'm a real doctor, not a physician, and don't have the inherited inferiority complex (oddly mixed with a God complex) that comes from the modern M.D. being a watered down thing designed with the explicit purpose of borrowing the respect/prestige/not-killing-people of the doctors of the university. Having taken out one of the two key features of what doctor meant for a couple of thousand years, they progressed to claiming to be real doctors. [note: some are, but most have never *contributed* to knowledge]) Well and true. Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to knowldge (search for his stuff in the BMJ on the internet). This account is dochawk instead of hawk for the simple reason that early gmail required at least 6 characters, and my students were already receiving email from a dochawk account at Penn State. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ios options to create time-based reminders or messages
It was introduced with 5.5, and I'm not sure if there is a limit to the amount of text. Too much text in the notification alert or buttons might look ugly, but the payload, that the user doesn't have to see, can be a lot longer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: Free Shade 10 3D Standard Edition Today Only
No. I was unable to order and a friend managed to place an order but hasn't received anything. If you didn't get your order (yet), contact me directly. Some orders got kicked out because of key information missing or fraudulent information added. If your friend put in just initials, for example, or garbage text into any fields then it got deleted. Anyone on this list though, if you felt you got deleted unfairly as a result of that, contact me directly and we can work out a way for you to replace the order. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Proactive International, LLC - Because it is about who you know.(tm) http://www.proactive-intl.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although we do have writers to the signet. Do they both give advice and appear in court? And if so, to which century do they dress? :) Well and true. Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to knowldge (search for his stuff in the BMJ on the internet). Prior to the modern MD, there was a real M.D., just like the Ph.D., L.L.D., D.D. (the four learned professions) Watering down the title was a reasonable exchange for replacing the barbers for primary medical care . . . I'll acknowledge and agree that an M.D. who has either published in a journal or developed and circulated (not just patented and charged licensing fees) is a doctor. I have a couple of friends with joint M.D. Ph.D. I refer to them as the only physicians I know who are real doctors . . . :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
Hi Monte, Here's some thoughts on what I would like to see. As a generic category, anything that makes my Mac applications look like real Mac applications, i.e. access to the more recent native OS X controls. In particular, the ability to include icons/buttons/etc in a window title bar - I think it's referred to as a toolbar. Another one would be direct access to the Mac Address Book. I've seen the beginnings of both the above by others but they never seem to quite make it to market. Another category would be access to some of the sqlite functions that RunRev do not expose to us and, in fact, the ability to access a more recent version of the sqlite library than is included in RunRev, which is woefully out of date. But that's probably a bit too specialized for general use. One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing rules. For example, apps that open files from a Recently used list violate the sandboxing rules unless it is done by establishing bookmarks, wehich can't be done directly from Livecode. I believe, but not 100% sure, that any attempt to use the shell command in Livecode would violate sandboxing rules. Of course, that covers a huge amount of ground but perhaps a set of common os request that LC developers use could be a basis. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: What would be your number 1 desktop external Pete? A good candidate I would think is bonjour. -- Monte Goulding On 14/07/2012, at 6:21 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Glad to hear it Monte. I'm ready to buy as soon as it includes some desktop externals. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: It's in the grand plan for mergExt. All sales go into product development. -- Monte Goulding On 14/07/2012, at 5:10 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Me too! On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Monte, I wish someone (or you yourself) would fill your externals role for us lowly desktop folks! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On 07/14/2012 08:31 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/14/2012 06:35 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: What is a barrister? It's a british half-a-lawyer, I think :) I don't think we have those sort of beasts in Scotland, although we do have writers to the signet. Do they both give advice and appear in court? Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids. And if so, to which century do they dress? :) Well and true. Notwithstanding that, my grandfather, Dr Richmond McIntosh (M.D.) was bothe real medical doctor (i.e. not just an M. B.) and contributed to knowldge (search for his stuff in the BMJ on the internet). Prior to the modern MD, there was a real M.D., just like the Ph.D., L.L.D., D.D. (the four learned professions) Watering down the title was a reasonable exchange for replacing the barbers for primary medical care . . . I'll acknowledge and agree that an M.D. who has either published in a journal or developed and circulated (not just patented and charged licensing fees) is a doctor. I have a couple of friends with joint M.D. Ph.D. I refer to them as the only physicians I know who are real doctors . . . :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: grr. debugging with livecode
On 7/14/12 10:20 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: If a script makes a call to a rev library, it won't break there. Set the breakpoint immediately after that line and it should work. Yes, but seeing how I got there . . . single stepping in card preOpenStack, which passes preOpenStack - skipped: stack preOpenStack, which dumped me in - some other handler. Since I was already single-stepping, this is highly unexpected behavior . . . There's a corollary: if you step into a call to a rev library, it won't break either; the handler will run until the next breakpoint. So put another breakpoint after the place where it doesn't stop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
On 7/13/12 11:53 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I've talked with Ken and we think it may be a good idea to release this as a free library and plugin Please yes. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone
On 7/14/12 10:13 AM, André Bisseret wrote: Le 14 juil. 2012 à 15:13, Björnke von Gierke a écrit : I think that copy pasted used to be part of the standard library. This is a stack that The RunRev IDE always attaches to your standalones. However, in a version (4.5 or 5.1 or so) all copy paste stuff got removed from there. Or it was an engine feature, that they removed. Either way, it's gone, and no standalone can do copy paste anymore if you do not include your own code to do it. Thank you much Björnke for this information Bad news for me :-(( That means that I can't consider any change to my current standalone! There were some changes made in the engine to allow additional menu item parameters, but the command keys should still work. If they don't, try changing your menu group into a shared card group instead of a background group. That way they are more likely to receive keyboard input. If that still doesn't work, the handler to catch copy/paste is very simple: on commandkeyDown pKey switch pKey case x cut break case v paste break case c copy break case z undo break default pass commandKeyDown end switch end commandkeyDown -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing rules. I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something the engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
I tend to agree although it doesn't look like it would be a particularly complicated external. -- Monte Goulding On 15/07/2012, at 5:24 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing rules. I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something the engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
It may not be complicated (to you!) but its a huge hole in Livecode for me at the moment! Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks, if an external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode product imo) that would be amazing. I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts, and provide the interface to the Intel App Up store, but any other externals that opened up access to more stores would be good. Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would include... - Dropbox (as previous mentioned), because its a real pain inside a mac sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise! - A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera - Touch screen support for Windows 8. I really hope this works out for you Monte. Livecode has grown to be a genuine option for mobile development now, and your tools absolutely, and without any doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the functionality immensely. Good luck with it all! Andy On 14 Jul 2012, at 21:31, Monte Goulding wrote: I tend to agree although it doesn't look like it would be a particularly complicated external. -- Monte Goulding On 15/07/2012, at 5:24 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/14/12 1:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing rules. I'd like to see that too, it would be very useful. It's really something the engine should handle, but if it doesn't, we need some way to do it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
Hi Peter I believe OS x toolbars are under development by Seao Sean at the moment. Ill try and make contact with him to see if he would like help taking his externals to market. I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same on OS X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop. For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide access to source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow myself and others a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev don't have time to document. It would also allow (depending on licensing) custom versions to be released. The sandboxing stuff would appear to be an obvious one for the engine and given it would probably take someone like mark waddingham all of an hour to implement I would expect runrev to pick up on this. Have a few good rants about it on the dev list (usually works for me). So... It sounds like I've talked myself out of everything you wanted but I need to consider these things as there just isn't room to compete in the livecode marketplace. Cheers -- Monte Goulding On 15/07/2012, at 4:05 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Hi Monte, Here's some thoughts on what I would like to see. As a generic category, anything that makes my Mac applications look like real Mac applications, i.e. access to the more recent native OS X controls. In particular, the ability to include icons/buttons/etc in a window title bar - I think it's referred to as a toolbar. Another one would be direct access to the Mac Address Book. I've seen the beginnings of both the above by others but they never seem to quite make it to market. Another category would be access to some of the sqlite functions that RunRev do not expose to us and, in fact, the ability to access a more recent version of the sqlite library than is included in RunRev, which is woefully out of date. But that's probably a bit too specialized for general use. One other that comes to mind is tools to help with Apple's sandboxing rules. For example, apps that open files from a Recently used list violate the sandboxing rules unless it is done by establishing bookmarks, wehich can't be done directly from Livecode. I believe, but not 100% sure, that any attempt to use the shell command in Livecode would violate sandboxing rules. Of course, that covers a huge amount of ground but perhaps a set of common os request that LC developers use could be a basis. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: What would be your number 1 desktop external Pete? A good candidate I would think is bonjour. -- Monte Goulding On 14/07/2012, at 6:21 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Glad to hear it Monte. I'm ready to buy as soon as it includes some desktop externals. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: It's in the grand plan for mergExt. All sales go into product development. -- Monte Goulding On 14/07/2012, at 5:10 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Me too! On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Monte, I wish someone (or you yourself) would fill your externals role for us lowly desktop folks! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw hens...@me.com wrote: Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks, if an external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode product imo) Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals. I could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's really probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing at the moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev list approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with mergXattr which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented because someone was getting rejected from the app store. I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts, and provide the interface to the Intel App Up store, but any other externals that opened up access to more stores would be good. Feel free to point me at high priority stores and/or their sdk. Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would include... - Dropbox (as previous mentioned), because its a real pain inside a mac sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise! What's the difficulty using it other than only being able to do blocking uploads? - A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera Definitely possible. How many people would like this? - Touch screen support for Windows 8. I'll look into it but once again it's probably right in the potential LC roadmap. I really hope this works out for you Monte. Livecode has grown to be a genuine option for mobile development now, and your tools absolutely, and without any doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the functionality immensely. Thank you! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: validating per use licensing
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Aye, they do, an as far as Ah jalouse they mun put a peruke on their heids. And I thought, per Churchill, that the US and England were two countries separated by a common language . . . :) -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Storing a great many fields in a database
Currently I'm using the included SQLite while I'm figuring the whole program out, but to stay ahead of the competition, I need to be able to store in the cloud (particularly, for attorneys to use virtual assistants in other parts of the countries, and to access files by iPad in court). Anyway, SQLite cheerfully ignores the data type entirely. I assume that I'll stay compatible with both mySQL and postgreSQL, but that's where the issue is. I have a great many fields that provide the description of the debtor (it's a bankruptcy program). At the moment, there are 276 of them (and will probably be about 400 when complete). Most of these are money values (decimal(12,2)). A handful are boolean, and the rest text ranging from 1 to 200 characters. I need to be able to access them by name, so currently there is a keyword for each, and three different values for each one(a default, an override, and the actual value). I've been happily assigning data types in a custom property field, and even fixed them up today. And then it occurred to me that I don't get to specify a different data type by row . . . (I have debt and asset information with a great many per debt, so that goes in a different table). Given that the norm will probably be a remote rather than local database server, what is the best way for me to structure the table? My 200 character upper limit seems to suggest that blobs would be overkill, but allocating three 200 character strings per entry seems like serious overkill--or is it? I could have 400 columns, I suppose, with three rows (for each of those values)--but isn't this going to slow down the server? Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything else? Or will the minimum row size mean that at 200 characters each, it just doesn't matter anyway? -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)
On Jul 11, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Ken - you nailed it, thank you so much I had the text size set to medium (125%). I changed it to small (100%), re-logged in and the title appeared. Just to be double sure, I went back to medium text size and the title disappeared again. I will be sure to mention this problem somewhere in the docs for the product. I've seen 'larger than 100%' fonts cause problems in a lot of different windows dev apps - I'm glad you found the problem! Surely this is a Windows bug? Even with the text size at medium, the title appears if the stack is top-level, just not when it's modeless. Be that as it may, I can now get on with my life. Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a bug in RQCC, I'd suggest logging it. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: Free Shade 10 3D Standard Edition Today Only
Hi Lynn, I just send you an email about this same problem. Did you received it? Alejandro -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Free-Shade-10-3D-Standard-Edition-Today-Only-tp4651623p4652046.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)
In view of my later email on this, yes, it appears LC is not completely blameless in this so I will file QCC report. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote: Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a bug in RQCC, I'd suggest logging it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Storing a great many fields in a database
Doc- Saturday, July 14, 2012, 3:16:25 PM, you wrote: Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything else? OMG. You have that many fields in *one* table? I think you need a serious database redesign. Or design, since it sounds like it was never really designed in the first place. Come up with a database schema, split the data into component tables, and this will all become much easier. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Storing a great many fields in a database
It's a little hard to decipher exactly waht your're trying to achieve here but here's a few thoughts.. Are you saying that you want to store the default, override, and actual values in the table row of the database? If so, that deosn't feel right to me. I'd split that into a default table, an override table, and actual value table, each connected by a foreign key to the primary key of the table that idntifies the debtor, (name/address, SSN, etc). Another approach might be to try to group the fields into categories that logically belomng together somehow and have a separate table for each category, once again linked by foreign key to the m ain debtor table. Don't know if that's possible. If you're saying that datatypes vary by row in the same table, that's a definite no no in any database design, more so in anything other than SQLite since they all have strict typing rules and you will get errors returned if you try to insert a column with a datatype that is different than defined in the schema. You'll need to design your tables so that any given column in a table will always have the same datatype. If I understand your email correctly, sounds like there should at least be separate asset and debt tables. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: Currently I'm using the included SQLite while I'm figuring the whole program out, but to stay ahead of the competition, I need to be able to store in the cloud (particularly, for attorneys to use virtual assistants in other parts of the countries, and to access files by iPad in court). Anyway, SQLite cheerfully ignores the data type entirely. I assume that I'll stay compatible with both mySQL and postgreSQL, but that's where the issue is. I have a great many fields that provide the description of the debtor (it's a bankruptcy program). At the moment, there are 276 of them (and will probably be about 400 when complete). Most of these are money values (decimal(12,2)). A handful are boolean, and the rest text ranging from 1 to 200 characters. I need to be able to access them by name, so currently there is a keyword for each, and three different values for each one(a default, an override, and the actual value). I've been happily assigning data types in a custom property field, and even fixed them up today. And then it occurred to me that I don't get to specify a different data type by row . . . (I have debt and asset information with a great many per debt, so that goes in a different table). Given that the norm will probably be a remote rather than local database server, what is the best way for me to structure the table? My 200 character upper limit seems to suggest that blobs would be overkill, but allocating three 200 character strings per entry seems like serious overkill--or is it? I could have 400 columns, I suppose, with three rows (for each of those values)--but isn't this going to slow down the server? Or split it into two tables, and let my get/set functions figure out which to use, one for currency values, and the other for everything else? Or will the minimum row size mean that at 200 characters each, it just doesn't matter anyway? -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
See below. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw hens...@me.com wrote: Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks, if an external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode product imo) Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals. I could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's really probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing at the moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev list approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with mergXattr which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented because someone was getting rejected from the app store. Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's evaluation of whether to provide this or not. I think you'd be surprised at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just aren't possible directly in LC. I use a couple of externals already to validate the MAS reciepts, and provide the interface to the Intel App Up store, but any other externals that opened up access to more stores would be good. Feel free to point me at high priority stores and/or their sdk. Other externals that would be nice on the desktop right now for me would include... - Dropbox (as previous mentioned), because its a real pain inside a mac sandboxed app to use from Livecode otherwise! What's the difficulty using it other than only being able to do blocking uploads? - A barcode scanner that could use the macs camera Definitely possible. How many people would like this? - Touch screen support for Windows 8. I'll look into it but once again it's probably right in the potential LC roadmap. I really hope this works out for you Monte. Livecode has grown to be a genuine option for mobile development now, and your tools absolutely, and without any doubt in my mind fill in the missing gaps and extend the functionality immensely. Thank you! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
One other addition to this. I haven't researched this fully yet but I believe a different version of the sqlite library will be required to run on Windows 8 than with any other platform. I'm not sure how RunRev plan to deal with that one since the two libraries can't co-exist in the same binary. There's a long standing tradition that the sqlite library is compiled into the program that uses it, not loaded from an external library file. I totally agree with that for an end product, compiled application. But for development tools, there has to be a way of using whatever version of the sqlite library is appropriate. With any other programming language, I could do that but we're locked out of the ability to it in LC that because the sqlite literary of RunRev's choice is compiled into LC. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide access to source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow myself and others a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev don't have time to document. It would also allow (depending on licensing) custom versions to be released. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copy-paste not working in a standalone
Hi Jacque, I'm not 100% sure but I don't think he has a menu script right now. Your handler works fine of course. However, when I tried that simplistic approach in my SQLiteAdmin program, it was politely pointed out to me by a customer that the availability of cut/copy/paste/clear commands should be dependant on the cursor being in a control where they make sense. In my case, only text was involved but I ended up adding code that detected whether the current control was a field or not and enabling/disabling the controls appropriately. Oh yes, and also enabling/disabling, the paste/undo command depending on whether there was any text on the clipboard. It could get more complicated if you wanted to cut/copy out of something like a datagrid. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: There were some changes made in the engine to allow additional menu item parameters, but the command keys should still work. If they don't, try changing your menu group into a shared card group instead of a background group. That way they are more likely to receive keyboard input. If that still doesn't work, the handler to catch copy/paste is very simple: on commandkeyDown pKey switch pKey case x cut break case v paste break case c copy break case z undo break default pass commandKeyDown end switch end commandkeyDown ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
Sorry for the froward on this. My first attempt was rejected becuae the email was over 15kb. Does anyone other than me think that's so 20th century! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM Subject: Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com See below. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: On 15/07/2012, at 6:56 AM, Andrew Henshaw hens...@me.com wrote: Ive stopped writing for the Mac App Store as its impossible to access files outside of the sandbox without the security scoped bookmarks, if an external existed that allowed it (even though it should be in the main livecode product imo) Right there is the reason I can't justify doing this over other externals. I could probably have this done for you by the end of the week but there's really probably only a handful of lc developers trying to tackle sandboxing at the moment and of them how many will decide to take the rant on the dev list approach rather than buy the external. Ive been here before with mergXattr which as far as I know resulted in 0 sales but I implemented because someone was getting rejected from the app store. Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's evaluation of whether to provide this or not. I think you'd be surprised at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just aren't possible directly in LC. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
I'm definilty not holding my breath! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same on OS X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
ANother forward becaus of earlier rejection…. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com Date: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM Subject: Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Hi Monte, Some comments interspersed below. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Peter I believe OS x toolbars are under development by Seao Sean at the moment. Ill try and make contact with him to see if he would like help taking his externals to market. Yes, I've seen that on the forum and have tried the trial. But it's far from complete and haven't seen any posts about if and when it will be complete. You seem to have the drive to get these things to market. I would think much of the address book access from ios would be the same on OS X so it may be possible to convince runrev to include it on desktop. Seao Sean started an address book external several months ago, but once again it never made it to market. Alos, I'd probably add access to the MAc Calendar to the list. For SQLite I'm going to ask runrev to open source or at least provide access to source for all their externals. I believe this would be allow myself and others a chance to learn some tricks of the trade that runrev don't have time to document. It would also allow (depending on licensing) custom versions to be released. Getting their source code would help I'm sure, certainly as far as getting access to useful functions that RunRev havenn't exposed to LC users. For example, there's one that allows you to set a callback to be called at regular intervals duting long running db operations so you update a progress indicator of some sort. There's several others. In addition to the, the library they include is around 18 months and 7 releases out of date and there have been several new features in sqlite since than. WAL locking, more virtual table types, etc. I don;t know how you can handle that since it would require a newer sqlite library to be included in LC. Maybe that's what you mean but customised versions? The sandboxing stuff would appear to be an obvious one for the engine and given it would probably take someone like mark waddingham all of an hour to implement I would expect runrev to pick up on this. Have a few good rants about it on the dev list (usually works for me). Well I haven't ranted on the dev list but I (and I think several others) have entered QCC reports and had zero response. I hope you're right but to be honest, I doubt anything much is likley to be added to the desktop side of LC for a long wile, since RunRev are clearly putting almost all their resources into mobile. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Lessons learned on my Mobile Journey
We're working on it right now. I've updated altButton so that now it uses images which will scale with the button-- and it's all integrated nicely with the inspector and libraries. Ken's polishing things tomorrow. I hope we have a DropTool which raps this up nicely! BTW, it's been tested now on multiple iPhones and Android hardware and works like a charm. Just a few mouse clicks on the inspector and the interface just 'knows' how to scale itself-- no coding required. :-) On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 7/13/12 11:53 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: I've talked with Ken and we think it may be a good idea to release this as a free library and plugin Please yes. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Chipp Walters CEO, Altuit, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Fwd: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
Sure I learned my lesson, but what if I want the whole discussion thread included? Just think in this day and age of cheap disk space, 15kb is an ancient limit, although there has to be a limit of some sort. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Pete- Saturday, July 14, 2012, 6:19:02 PM, you wrote: Sorry for the froward on this. My first attempt was rejected becuae the email was over 15kb. Does anyone other than me think that's so 20th century! Not on a listserv, no. I can't think of anything I have to say to a list that would take that much text. If you hit the limit because you quoted the entire discussion that went before then maybe there's a lesson learned. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mergExt pricing changes and free externals
Yep, I understand that, but the same principal applies to RunRev's evaluation of whether to provide this or not. I think you'd be surprised at how many LC devs would put stuff into the APple store it they weren't stopped dead in their tracks by this and a couple of other issues that just aren't possible directly in LC Not really. Enabling file access is clearly in the realm of the engines responsibilities as just about everybody posting on this thread has demonstrated by saying I should be in the engine. How many more OS x versions will there be before the user will have to change some obscure setting to allow a non-sandbox app? My guess is no more than 2. I'll tell you what. Anyone prepared to purchase the suite if I produce this bookmark external is welcome to email me off list to pledge to the fact. If I judge the ROI to be worthwhile I'll do it. Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Modeless screens on Windows (SOLVED!!!)
Coming in late on this thread, Peter, but would setting the 'title' of the stack to SPACE resolve the problem until a fix is available? Hugh Senior FLCo -- Original message On Jul 11, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Ken - you nailed it, thank you so much I had the text size set to medium (125%). I changed it to small (100%), re-logged in and the title appeared. Just to be double sure, I went back to medium text size and the title disappeared again. I will be sure to mention this problem somewhere in the docs for the product. I've seen 'larger than 100%' fonts cause problems in a lot of different windows dev apps - I'm glad you found the problem! Surely this is a Windows bug? Even with the text size at medium, the title appears if the stack is top-level, just not when it's modeless. Be that as it may, I can now get on with my life. Not sure why it would not show when modeless, so if you haven't logged a bug in RQCC, I'd suggest logging it. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
