Re: go stack URL question
Thanks Mark. I don't know why but I thought that may be there was some built-in encrypt option in the go stack URL command... jbv Hi JBV, Sure, you can encrypt the stack and decrypt it when your standalone downloads the stack. You might want to avoid decrypting and opening very large remote files. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FieldFormatter: Working group
In many ways LiveCode is more a language than a program. It provides the tools to build software, and sometimes you have to build your own tools for it. For example 'shell' is supported, but *you* have to know about 'shell' to apply it. So LiveCode stradles two worlds: raw coding and purpose-built applications like Excel in that you get the raw power with actually a good range of shortcuts, but it cannot do everything for everyone 'out of the box'... You need to apply what is available, and sometimes what is available is basic widgets from which you construct bigger widgets. The fieldFormatter is a case in point. It applies what is available in the engine to provide shortcuts that, given a bit of time and knowledge, you might do for yourself. Dynamic field formatting based on text input is not, however, a 'simple task' as it requires separating what is entered from what is displayed and this is not native functionality. If it were, LiveCode would be a very different beast... you would be writing all the code to generate, display and manage your own field objects. I for one am happy not to go there! Hugh Senior FLCo From: tbodine lvhd...@gmail.com That sounds outstanding! -- Tom Bodine From: Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com Hi Hugh This is really a breath of fresh air in that LC is starting to grow up. I have been saying for awhile that LiveCode will evolve or go away. It may take developers to move the stake forward in the way other software languages have come of age. I believe that when the developers start adding externals and plugins to LC it will start to be a better product. I understand that there are currently some externals out there, but there is a ton of new capability that can still be added. For example, I spent weeks learning how to do programming tasks that should be built into LiveCode in the properties dialog. It was all the things your offering in your properties in this email. This should not require hours of coding to get such a simple task done. Plus you also covered things that I did not take time to add like the comma for thousands. That should also be a properties item in LiveCode just like the numeric settings. Thank you Vaughn Clement On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:07 AM, FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: A new field formatting palette and frontscript library is nearing completion. The properties palette, syntax and integration are all in place and working. - What is its purpose? In short it separates data from display. Field contents can, for example, be displayed as currency (or any other arbitrary unit of measure), percentage, dateTime, time duration or 'privatised', with numeric fields additionally owning their own numberFormat, negative color, and thousands separator. The underlying 'text' (or data) is unchanged; as soon as the field loses focus or as soon as we programmatically change any of the properties, the field contents change to reflect the new property settings. - How do we use it? Either using the properties palette or by script, we can 'set the percentage of fld n to true' : so 0.2 can be displayed as 20% 'set the numeric of fld n to true/false' : so only numbers can be entered 'set the displayChars of fld n to $ : so 10 can be displayed as $10 'set the numericFormat of fld n to 0.00' : so 10 can be displayed as $10.00 'set the showThousands of fld n to true' : so 1250 can be displayed as $1,250.00 'set the privateChars of fld n to ..' : so pa55w0rd can be displayed as privatised text 'set the defaultText of fld n to Enter a date here...' : so empty fields can display gray text help 'set the dhms of fld n to true' : so 70.38 can be displayed as 01 : 10.4 'set the isUSformat of fld n to false' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 3 June 2013 'set the dateTimeFormat of fld n to -MMM-dd' : so 3/6/13 can be displayed as 2013-Jun-03 [.../...] etc then 'put the rawtext of fld n into tQty' : so we can get the data rather than the field contents 'set the rawtext of fld total to tQty * tCost' : so we can manipulate the data and retain formatted displays. [.../...] etc. It should all 'just happen' intuitively. It works with both the LC and MC IDE development environments, so clicking twice on a field will show the new palette along with the existing IDE palettes. - What is needed? A small group of (preferably seasoned) developers to [1] review the palette UI [2] check integration and functionality [3] critique and make suggestions, especially about the property names and further functionality [4] discuss, propose and share with a cc to others involved [5] thrash the cr*p out of it :) If interested, please let me know off-list. I agree with Richard G and am hoping this concept will become mainstream, but it has to 'go with the flow' and be a seamless extension to the existing 'feel' of
Re: SocketTimeOut message
On 4 Oct 2013, at 00:16, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: But from Phil's answer, it sounds like the timeout message is just informational, and libURL keeps trying to send until it goes through. So maybe you don't need a resend? That's not my understanding. I think the transaction will stop if there is a timeout. (I could be wrong, but libUrl assumes this to be the case and cleans things up when a socketTimeout message is received) I think the timeout is measured as the time between any message sent to the remote host and a subsequent response. So a large download that takes longer than the timeout interval won't cause a timeout as long as the initial response (i.e. first chunk of data) occurred within the timeout interval. A common situation that would cause a timeout would be if some time-consuming processing was done on the server (e.g. a large database query) before any response was sent. However, I've seen some strange behavior where socket messages don't always appear to be sent consistently. (By 'strange' I probably mean I was too stupid to understand.) Cheers Dave ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: It is almost never safe to assume your code is perfect
Hi Geoff, I'm not sure what the original context was, so I guess there was a need for 'the long seconds', but I just created two clock faces and ran one against your original code, and the other with the 2 references to the long seconds removed, i.e it just updates every second. The outputs are identical. So no less lines of code but about 50 chars less typing. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: on setTime put word 1 of the long time into T put T the long seconds into fld time split T using : set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3]) if T[3] mod 10 = 0 then set the startangle of grc minute to 90 - (6 * T[2]) - (T[3] div 10) if T[3] mod 10 = 0 and T[2] mod 2 = 0 then set the startangle of grc hour to 90 - (30 * T[1]) - (T[2] div 2) send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds end setTime Never be satisfied. gc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
FieldFormatter: Sample preview
For those who asked, a preview is available here: www.flexiblelearning.com/fieldformatter Best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FieldFormatter: Sample preview
VERY NICE! ~Roger On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: For those who asked, a preview is available here: www.flexiblelearning.com/fieldformatter Best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: FieldFormatter: Sample preview
Hi Hugh Darn fine work! That will save a huge amount of time where it required about 40 lines of code on my last project. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skype: vaughn.clement https://secure.join.me/appsbyvclement FaceTime: vclem...@gmail.com LogMeIn also avaialble Call on ooVoo at address: vaughnclement or 9282549062 Ph. 928-254-9062 Cloud Hosting Registration Web Site: https://my.oditech.com/cart.php?a=addpid=41 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:47 AM, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: For those who asked, a preview is available here: www.flexiblelearning.com/fieldformatter Best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: FieldFormatter: Sample preview
Ditto! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Roger Eller Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:15 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: FieldFormatter: Sample preview VERY NICE! ~Roger On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:47 AM, FlexibleLearning ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: For those who asked, a preview is available here: www.flexiblelearning.com/fieldformatter Best regards, Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: It is almost never safe to assume your code is perfect
Ha! I just noticed a bug in the above that causes the hour hand to be updated 6x as often as it should be. The below (I think) updates the second hand once per second, the minute hand 360 times per hour, and the hour hand 360 times per 12 hours. The long time was to check if the correct time was being displayed, the long seconds to see how the send..in was working. In the earliest versions of the script the send..in was being done every 500 milliseconds or so.The switch to send in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds was a very unexpected and exceedingly clever hack. The actual script in practice would be: on mouseUp setTime end mouseUp on setTime put word 1 of the long time into T split T using : set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3]) if T[3] mod 10 = 0 then set the startangle of grc minute to 90 - (6 * T[2]) - (T[3] div 10) if T[3] = 0 and T[2] mod 2 = 0 then set the startangle of grc hour to 90 - (30 * T[1]) - (T[2] div 2) send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds end setTime On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Geoff, I'm not sure what the original context was, so I guess there was a need for 'the long seconds', but I just created two clock faces and ran one against your original code, and the other with the 2 references to the long seconds removed, i.e it just updates every second. The outputs are identical. So no less lines of code but about 50 chars less typing. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: on setTime put word 1 of the long time into T put T the long seconds into fld time split T using : set the startangle of grc second to 90 - (6 * T[3]) if T[3] mod 10 = 0 then set the startangle of grc minute to 90 - (6 * T[2]) - (T[3] div 10) if T[3] mod 10 = 0 and T[2] mod 2 = 0 then set the startangle of grc hour to 90 - (30 * T[1]) - (T[2] div 2) send setTime to me in (1 - (the long seconds mod 1)) seconds end setTime Never be satisfied. gc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Strict compilation mode
I'm a big fan of strict compilation mode. I know others don't see the need for it but I like how it protects me from myself by catching misspelled variable names and forcing me to put quotes around literals. Every now and again I download a utility stack that someone has provided which was created with scm off. If I want to customize its scripts, I have to switch scm off or define all the variables/quote all the literals. The latter is a big pain (although I have a script that does it for me), and the former risks forgetting to switch scm on again. As far as I know, there's no other way round this (?) Seems like it would be useful to have a stack property that switched scm on or off for all the scripts in the stack with the default being the prefs setting. Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: go stack URL question
Hi JBV, If you have the commercial version of LC, you can protect your stack with a password. In some cases, that might be sufficient and avoid the need for additional encryption. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi Fill out this survey please http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com/survey/ On 10/4/2013 08:58, j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Thanks Mark. I don't know why but I thought that may be there was some built-in encrypt option in the go stack URL command... jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Strict compilation mode
I totally agree. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Haworth Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:29 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Strict compilation mode I'm a big fan of strict compilation mode. I know others don't see the need for it but I like how it protects me from myself by catching misspelled variable names and forcing me to put quotes around literals. Every now and again I download a utility stack that someone has provided which was created with scm off. If I want to customize its scripts, I have to switch scm off or define all the variables/quote all the literals. The latter is a big pain (although I have a script that does it for me), and the former risks forgetting to switch scm on again. As far as I know, there's no other way round this (?) Seems like it would be useful to have a stack property that switched scm on or off for all the scripts in the stack with the default being the prefs setting. Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash
Ralph... I am seeing exactly the same problem as you when trying to include files through the copy files pane.. Dixie -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-7simulator-hang-crash-tp4670590p4670631.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS 7simulator hang/crash
Thanks for confirmation. I have updated the bug report http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11252 with some other observations. Check it out. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of John Dixon Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 5:21 PM To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: iOS 7simulator hang/crash Ralph... I am seeing exactly the same problem as you when trying to include files through the copy files pane.. Dixie -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/iOS-7simulator-hang-crash-tp4 670590p4670631.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
