Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
Here’s one I’d like to see. “Native controls in the Cocoa Port”. Oh dear, I thought we were already getting that one. All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: properties vs local variable
Thanks Peter, I think this what the data grid does. I can see how this works having changed to colour of the group as an experiment. How would I deal with non contiguous selections? Create an image for each one? This is starting to sound expensive time wise. All the best Terry On 10 Mar 2014, at 21:41, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: There's another approach to this that does away with the need to set colors at all. Some folks on this list have shown me in the past how to create an image with its fillgradient set in such a way that it has alternating lines in the required colors at the same height as the line height you are dealing with, then setting it as a backgroundpattern. I've always used this in conjunction with a scrolling field with many lines of data but it sounds this table is made up of many text fields, probably grouped, so I tried it with a group of text fields.. Set the group's backgroundpattern to the id of the image. Set the group's opaque to true. Set the opaque of the fields in the group to false. All works fine. Group can be resized and the backgroundpattern adjusts accordingly and you no longer need any code to set line colors except for indicating the selectedline which I'd probably do with another image with an appropriate background which gets positioned wherever the user clicks. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crowd Funding Enhancements
I also like expanding the reach of each. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:29 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.comwrote: Here's one I'd like to see. Native controls in the Cocoa Port. Oh dear, I thought we were already getting that one. All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Multi user sqlite via shared-cache mode?
I¹m interested in having a small (20) number of users simultaneously connected to an sqlite DB on a shared network drive as an alternative to hosting on a server. I found some old (2010) discussions about this without a clear answer. I¹m wondering if sqlite share-cache mode will permit this. I have a very rudimentary understanding of SQL so perhaps I¹m misunderstanding what shared-cache mode does, but I¹m hoping that the upgraded sqlite support in LC 6.6 in combination with shared-cache mode will allow at least a limited number of concurrent connections. If so, does anyone know if there¹s a way to use revOpenDatabase() to open a connection with shared-cache mode enabled? If I understand correctly it is disabled by default. Thanks. Michael ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
disable mousedoubleup
Hi I wanted to disable mousedoubleup for a short time on a specific object, but it seems it's not possible to do this whit the doubleclickinterval, as that is not available on windows. The problem is of course that in this stack people will click very fast and the double events will then swallow some of the interactions. Is there any other workaround to react to the mouse events, but none of the double ones? -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: disable mousedoubleup
On Mar 11, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: Hi I wanted to disable mousedoubleup for a short time on a specific object, but it seems it's not possible to do this whit the doubleclickinterval, as that is not available on windows. The problem is of course that in this stack people will click very fast and the double events will then swallow some of the interactions. Is there any other workaround to react to the mouse events, but none of the double ones? Björnke, Could flushEvents() be helpful in this situation? Maybe something like this: on mouseDoubleUp send mouseUp to me end mouseDoubleUp on mouseUp # if the handler hasn't finished, or some predetermined time period hasn't elapsed: flushEvents(mouseUp) end mouseUp Not tested, just thinking out loud. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Learn to code with LiveCode University http://university.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: disable mousedoubleup
Hi. This goes back a long, long way. And there was a thread just a few months ago. I think I am rewriting from memory: on mouseUp wait 20 if the mouseClick then doDoubleStuff else doSingleStuff end mouseUp on mouseDoubleUp end mouseDoubleUp Seemed clever in 1987. A little long in the tooth now, but works. Craig -Original Message- From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:10 am Subject: disable mousedoubleup Hi I wanted to disable mousedoubleup for a short time on a specific object, but it seems it's not possible to do this whit the doubleclickinterval, as that is not available on windows. The problem is of course that in this stack people will click very fast and the double events will then swallow some of the interactions. Is there any other workaround to react to the mouse events, but none of the double ones? -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multi user sqlite via shared-cache mode?
Hi Michael You can find more info about this at http://www.sqlite.org/atomiccommit.html#brokenlocks In general, it's risky accessing SQlite databases over a network unless you are only querying the database and not doing any insert/update/delete operations for the reasons explained in the link. Usually, options like shared cache are turned on and off using PRAGMA statements but I couldn't find one for this purpose. It looks like you enable shared cache when the database is opened by using a filepath similar to: file:pathtomydb?cache=shared when calling revOpenDatabase but I haven't tried it so not sure if LC would accept it. If it doesn't, we should probably file a bug report. There are some client/server tools out there for SQLite. Some are listed at http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=SqliteNetwork and no doubt a Google search will find others. I've never tried any of them so not sure how well they play with LC. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Michael Gruenthal mgruent...@mac.comwrote: I¹m interested in having a small (20) number of users simultaneously connected to an sqlite DB on a shared network drive as an alternative to hosting on a server. I found some old (2010) discussions about this without a clear answer. I¹m wondering if sqlite share-cache mode will permit this. I have a very rudimentary understanding of SQL so perhaps I¹m misunderstanding what shared-cache mode does, but I¹m hoping that the upgraded sqlite support in LC 6.6 in combination with shared-cache mode will allow at least a limited number of concurrent connections. If so, does anyone know if there¹s a way to use revOpenDatabase() to open a connection with shared-cache mode enabled? If I understand correctly it is disabled by default. Thanks. Michael ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Multi user sqlite via shared-cache mode?
Hi Michael, I just verified that URI filenames don't work in LC v6.6 and have filed bug report # 11919. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:41 AM, Michael Gruenthal mgruent...@mac.comwrote: I¹m interested in having a small (20) number of users simultaneously connected to an sqlite DB on a shared network drive as an alternative to hosting on a server. I found some old (2010) discussions about this without a clear answer. I¹m wondering if sqlite share-cache mode will permit this. I have a very rudimentary understanding of SQL so perhaps I¹m misunderstanding what shared-cache mode does, but I¹m hoping that the upgraded sqlite support in LC 6.6 in combination with shared-cache mode will allow at least a limited number of concurrent connections. If so, does anyone know if there¹s a way to use revOpenDatabase() to open a connection with shared-cache mode enabled? If I understand correctly it is disabled by default. Thanks. Michael ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
MSSQL Support?
Has anyone had any success querying MSSQL? I suppose it could be done via shell, but I’m not sure I want to go that route. ODBC seems fairly clunky to implement as well, and I’m not sure MS even supports ODBC for MSSQL. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MSSQL Support?
ODBC works perfectly fine with MSSQL. ~Roger On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: Has anyone had any success querying MSSQL? I suppose it could be done via shell, but I'm not sure I want to go that route. ODBC seems fairly clunky to implement as well, and I'm not sure MS even supports ODBC for MSSQL. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MSSQL Support?
Hi Bob,
i am using ODBC to MSSQL connections on Mac and Windows for some years now with
great success.
I am using system dsn and in some projects also ODBC connection strings.
Advantage of the ODBC connection string is the customer do not have to create a
dsn.
Here are some examples of ODBC connection strings under Windows
SQL SERVER Driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERNAME;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
SQL Server Driver - connect to instance
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=192.168.1.250\INSTANCENAME;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
Native Client 11 Driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client
11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
Native Client 11 Driver - connect to instance
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client
11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250\InstanceName;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
and under Mac using the Actualtech ODBC driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,Driver={Actual SQL
Server};Server=192.168.1.250\INSTANCENAME;Database=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBPASSWORD;,,,)
Regards,
Matthias
Am 11.03.2014 um 18:05 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
Has anyone had any success querying MSSQL? I suppose it could be done via
shell, but I’m not sure I want to go that route. ODBC seems fairly clunky to
implement as well, and I’m not sure MS even supports ODBC for MSSQL.
Bob
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Objective-C on Android?
Talked with these folks at a trade show last month... www.apportable.com -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New chunks
Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MSSQL Support?
Awesome Thank you for that!
SKIP
On Mar 11, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:
Hi Bob,
i am using ODBC to MSSQL connections on Mac and Windows for some years now
with great success.
I am using system dsn and in some projects also ODBC connection strings.
Advantage of the ODBC connection string is the customer do not have to create
a dsn.
Here are some examples of ODBC connection strings under Windows
SQL SERVER Driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERNAME;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
SQL Server Driver - connect to instance
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER=SQL
Server;SERVER=192.168.1.250\INSTANCENAME;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
Native Client 11 Driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client
11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
Native Client 11 Driver - connect to instance
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,DRIVER={SQL Server Native Client
11.0};SERVER=192.168.1.250\InstanceName;DATABASE=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBUSERPASSWORD;Trusted_Connection=No,,,)
and under Mac using the Actualtech ODBC driver
get revOpenDatabase(ODBC,Driver={Actual SQL
Server};Server=192.168.1.250\INSTANCENAME;Database=DBNAME;UID=DBUSER;PWD=DBPASSWORD;,,,)
Regards,
Matthias
Am 11.03.2014 um 18:05 schrieb Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com:
Has anyone had any success querying MSSQL? I suppose it could be done via
shell, but I’m not sure I want to go that route. ODBC seems fairly clunky to
implement as well, and I’m not sure MS even supports ODBC for MSSQL.
Bob
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Re: New chunks
uword or wordup (up = unicode part) ~Roger On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Ben. Why not unicodeWord or uniWord. Roger takes that a step yet further, and, well, why not? For the sentence, is this a chunk delimited by a period and a space? For the paragraph, is this a chunk delimited by two returns? Craig Newman For the -Original Message- From: Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:41 pm Subject: Re: New chunks uword or wordup (up = unicode part) ~Roger On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
On 11/03/14 20:15, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) Well; in theory that looks good until you start to think about languages which are written (such as Sanskrit) with no obvious word boundaries and both vowel mutation (Sandhi) at what would be word boundaries, and consonant fusion. Languages such as Inuit and Hungarian are agglutinative, and in some cases what we (speakers of West European languages) would term a sentence consists of a single word with loads of affixes; some at the front (prefixes). Many Austronesian languages use infixes (i.e. twiddly bits shoved into the middle of 'words'). These also crop up in Afro-Asiatic languages such as Arabic. There are also some examples in English such as fan-f*cking-tabulous. We could also get sweaty about circumfixes, where a bit gets put on the front and a bit gets put on the back as a sort of split morpheme (not to be confused with split-pea bara). sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) That looks a bit fishy. How are you going to work out what marks a sentence boundary in every language that one can write with Unicode? And there are languages where the idea of a 'sentence' is absent. paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. I'm sorry to be such a pill, but word and sentence boundaries are such culture-bound concepts that they will only be any good for languages that mark word and sentence boundaries. This is about the same as stating dogmatically that all bananas are yellow, when they are not. Warm regards and thank you for your input. You may not thank me. Richmond. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
package maker
Hi All, I used to use RB Package Maker Studio to prepare an app for Apple Store. It seems it no longer works on Mac OS 10.9. I loved this package maker especially for setting the entitlements. Is there anybody who knows an other package maker ? I know how to sign and package an app, but I don’t know how to fix the entitlements. Alain Vezina Logilangue 514-596-1385 www.logilangue.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
SQLYoga and LC 6.6
Anybody out there using SQLYoga with LiveCode 6.6? In particular with a SQLite database? I have a mobile app using this setup and it’s not working. I don’t get any errors from SQLYoga, but I’m not getting proper results from select queries either. Everything works fine in LC 6.5.2, but not with LC 6.6 rc-1. Trevor, if you’re listening, have you noticed any issues? I would guess this has something to do with the updated SQLite libraries. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: package maker
Hi Alain, there is App Wrapper“ from Ohanaware. They published some information about Mavericks Codesigning for LiveCode apps. http://www.ohanaware.com/support/mavericksCodesign.php#liveCode I did not try it yet, but it reads and sounds reasonable. Regards, Matthias Rebbe Am 11.03.2014 um 20:53 schrieb Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com: Hi All, I used to use RB Package Maker Studio to prepare an app for Apple Store. It seems it no longer works on Mac OS 10.9. I loved this package maker especially for setting the entitlements. Is there anybody who knows an other package maker ? I know how to sign and package an app, but I don’t know how to fix the entitlements. Alain Vezina Logilangue 514-596-1385 www.logilangue.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
On Mar 11, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) snip Will this be implemented so that naturalword excludes punctuation fore and aft? eg, naturalword 2 of one (unusual, but illustrative) suggestion would be -- unusual -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: limitations in paid iOS apps
Hi Chris, I'll speak from an educator point of view… while I haven't developed any apps with a check-in system, I would never even consider having a limit of 6 if the target market includes classrooms. I wouldn't even have a system of in app purchase where the teacher could buy a larger number of seats for the app. Heck, raise the price of the app or don't include the educator discount… I bet there'd be negative feedback about that... Be forewarned that I am now standing on my soap box (is that a phrase that translates well outside the US?) That system of limiting the number of users would create a mess for simply using the 6 iPads… there'd have to be a system where none of the six students who shared an iPad needed it at the same time. You'd in essence be forced to create iPad groups that could really never change… it would create a system of use that will do nothing but get in the way… simply the opposite of ubiquitous … if the app is to really be integrated as a tool for students to use, that limitation must be removed. It really is akin to having six pencils for the class to take turns using. OK, off my soap box. Other educators on this list should please chime in, but that would be a deal breaker in a heartbeat. be well, randy - On Mar 10, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@icloud.com wrote: This isn’t directly LiveCode-related, but I’m looking to get some opinions on this from anyone who’s willing to share. I’m in the middle of working on a new app for my company. This is an educational app that could be used in either a classroom or home setting. It’s the type of app that requires a simple user management system. Basically just setting up user names so the app can track progress on a per-user basis. Nothing complex at all. The “powers that be” have requested that the app have a 6-user limit per device. This will be a paid app. In my experience, most paid apps do not impose these types of limitations, and I’m trying to make an argument for doing away with this limitation. Has anyone else worked on or seen something similar? My main concern would be a scenario where a classroom teacher may only have a single iPad available to her, with a class size of 30 students. She’s not going to be too happy if she can only use the app with six students at a time. I’m very worried that our app ratings/reviews will be very poor if we release the app with this limitation. Am I just making something out of nothing? Is this not really as big a deal as I think it is? If anyone has an opinion, please share. Like I said, I’d like to try to come up with a good argument against this. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Richmond richmondmathewson@... writes: How are you going to work out what marks a sentence boundary in every language that one can write with Unicode? And there are languages where the idea of a 'sentence' is absent. My initial take on this was the same as yours. But unicode separators seem to have been well thought-out (or at least standardized g): http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr29/ http://www.unicode.org/Public/6.3.0/ucd/auxiliary/SentenceBreakTest.html and I think any discussion or arguments should be taken up with the unicode working group, and not have LC create Yet Another Variation on the way folks will expect things to work. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Benjamin Beaumont ben@... writes: 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. My preferences, in order would be: 1. change the parser so that it accepts modifiers, and specifically so that it accepts unicode word. 2. break on word boundaries with unicodeWord. I think unicode makes it much clearer what is going on, rather than having to process what natural means. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: disable mousedoubleup
On 3/11/14, 10:09 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Hi I wanted to disable mousedoubleup for a short time on a specific object, but it seems it's not possible to do this whit the doubleclickinterval, as that is not available on windows. The problem is of course that in this stack people will click very fast and the double events will then swallow some of the interactions. Is there any other workaround to react to the mouse events, but none of the double ones? There's the old standby: on mouseDoubleUp mouseUp end mouseDoubleUp The clicks will queue. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQLYoga and LC 6.6
Trevor, if you're listening, have you noticed any issues? I would guess this has something to do with the updated SQLite libraries. Getting on a plane so I will be brief. I haven't tested in 6.6 yet. You might download latest SQL Yoga library from my site as the source code is now unlocked. You should be able to step through and see what is going on when you connect. -- Trevor DeVore ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
NASA's First Asteroid Grand Challenge -coding-
Interesting coding challenge from NASA. $35,000 prize. I've hilited the part that caught my eye in relation to Live Code. 'The Asteroid Data Hunter contest series challenges participants to develop significantly improved algorithms to identify asteroids in images captured by ground-based telescopes. The winning solution must increase the detection sensitivity, minimize the number of false positives, ignore imperfections in the data, *and run effectively on all computer systems.*' http://www.nasa.gov/content/be-an-asteroid-hunter-in-nasas-first-asteroid-grand-challenge-contest-series/index.html http://www.nasa.gov/content/be-an-asteroid-hunter-in-nasas-first-asteroid-grand-challenge-contest-series/index.html Any takers? - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Your LiveCode Work Desks - New Blog http://livecodemydesk.blogspot.de/ PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/NASA-s-First-Asteroid-Grand-Challenge-coding-tp4676909.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Can someone explain how the “sentence chunk would work? How are decimal points, and points in an abbreviation distinguished from the “period” that deliniates the end of a “sentence?” Does it presume that the exitsing text has special embedded “periods?” I’ve written my own, but it is very cumbersome and not flawless. I use it to do manuscript analysis. Like: Find all sentences in which “time” and “party” occur anywhere in the same sentence. My ignorance on unicode is profound. Jim C Message: 15 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:15:18 + From: Benjamin Beaumont b...@runrev.com To: LiveCode Developer List livecode-...@lists.runrev.com, How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: New chunks Message-ID: CADd0_Txbhdem4PbKXifXUsujqPLs9HROME6vKhF=sk1znp2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: disable mousedoubleup
Hi Björnke, What would you say about on mouseDoubleUp mouseUp mouseUp end mouseDoubleUp This way, every click is counted as a real click (if this actually works). -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 3/11/2014 16:09, Björnke von Gierke wrote: Hi I wanted to disable mousedoubleup for a short time on a specific object, but it seems it's not possible to do this whit the doubleclickinterval, as that is not available on windows. The problem is of course that in this stack people will click very fast and the double events will then swallow some of the interactions. Is there any other workaround to react to the mouse events, but none of the double ones? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
What are the pros and cons of making the 'useUnicode' property persistent and true by default, and let it determine the meaning of 'word'? To my own immature understanding, that seems like a better approach that trying to come up with a new vocabulary item. Phil Davis On 3/11/14, 11:15 AM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Or maybe introduce a persistent 'useUnicodeChunks' property that controls which kind of chunking is used. On 3/11/14, 3:42 PM, Phil Davis wrote: What are the pros and cons of making the 'useUnicode' property persistent and true by default, and let it determine the meaning of 'word'? To my own immature understanding, that seems like a better approach that trying to come up with a new vocabulary item. Phil Davis On 3/11/14, 11:15 AM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Sorry, I didn't read all emails before suggesting this. :-) On 3/11/14, 3:44 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Or maybe introduce a persistent 'useUnicodeChunks' property that controls which kind of chunking is used. On 3/11/14, 3:42 PM, Phil Davis wrote: What are the pros and cons of making the 'useUnicode' property persistent and true by default, and let it determine the meaning of 'word'? To my own immature understanding, that seems like a better approach that trying to come up with a new vocabulary item. Phil Davis On 3/11/14, 11:15 AM, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben _ Benjamin Beaumont . RunRev Ltd LiveCode Product Manager mail : 25a Thistle Street Lane South West, Edinburgh, EH2 1EW email : b...@runrev.com company : +44(0) 845 219 89 23 fax : +44(0) 845 458 8487 web : www.runrev.com LiveCode - Programming made simple ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQLYoga and LC 6.6
Maybe I'm misunderstanding since I don't have SQLYoga but if calls to the old format revOpenDatase are failing, that's a bug since every stack that opens an sqlite database will fail. If you don't need the ability to load extensions or change the way blobs work, no change should be required. Incidentally, I've tried the new ability to load third part libraries with the load_extension function and it works great. Got myself access to a whole new set of sqlite functions! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM, James Hale ja...@thehales.id.au wrote: Chris, Do as Trevor suggested and download the latest SQLYoga. It is no longer password protected so you can modify its handlers. I am not at my desk right now but if you find the handler that opens the db connection you just need to modify the SQLite case (in the switch statement) to handle the new syntax for opening a SQLite connection. I hit the same issue and just changed the single line to the new syntax. Hopefully Trevor will modify the code to enable the call to optionally enable to the extensions. As I wanted them I just changed the line to the new syntax with the extensions enabled. James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: NASA's First Asteroid Grand Challenge -coding-
I'm in Who is with me?? SKIP On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:49 PM, AndyP smudge.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Interesting coding challenge from NASA. $35,000 prize. I've hilited the part that caught my eye in relation to Live Code. 'The Asteroid Data Hunter contest series challenges participants to develop significantly improved algorithms to identify asteroids in images captured by ground-based telescopes. The winning solution must increase the detection sensitivity, minimize the number of false positives, ignore imperfections in the data, *and run effectively on all computer systems.*' http://www.nasa.gov/content/be-an-asteroid-hunter-in-nasas-first-asteroid-grand-challenge-contest-series/index.html http://www.nasa.gov/content/be-an-asteroid-hunter-in-nasas-first-asteroid-grand-challenge-contest-series/index.html Any takers? - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Your LiveCode Work Desks - New Blog http://livecodemydesk.blogspot.de/ PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/NASA-s-First-Asteroid-Grand-Challenge-coding-tp4676909.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Phil Davis revdev@... writes: What are the pros and cons of making the 'useUnicode' property persistent and true by default, and let it determine the meaning of 'word'? To my own immature understanding, that seems like a better approach that trying to come up with a new vocabulary item. I like this as well. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: SQLYoga and LC 6.6
Chris, Do as Trevor suggested and download the latest SQLYoga. It is no longer password protected so you can modify its handlers. I am not at my desk right now but if you find the handler that opens the db connection you just need to modify the SQLite case (in the switch statement) to handle the new syntax for opening a SQLite connection. I hit the same issue and just changed the single line to the new syntax. Hopefully Trevor will modify the code to enable the call to optionally enable to the extensions. As I wanted them I just changed the line to the new syntax with the extensions enabled. James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New chunks
Hi Ben, I think that the chunk names for unicode should be exactly the same as for english text, but they should act differently if either the text being operated on is unicode text or the useUnicode has been set to true. Note that other development tools don't have this problem at all. Operations on English text work the same way as on unicode text and there is no need to even think about the encoding. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 3/11/2014 19:15, Benjamin Beaumont wrote: Hi All, We're in the process of adding some new chunk types in LiveCode 7 and we would appreciate suggestions for a particular chunk name. The new chunk types are: naturalword (breaks on unicode word boundaries) sentence (breaks on unicode sentence boundaries) paragraph (Same behaviour as current 'line' chunk) The first chunk is called 'naturalword' because 'word' is already in use. Renaming the current 'word' chunk to 'token' to free up 'word' is not an option for backward compatibility. We are also limited by the current parser which doesn't allow us to use the form: put natural word 1 of this is a string of words 'naturalword' is the clearest internal suggestion at the moment and we'd love to get the input from community members if there is an even clearer option. Warm regards and thank you for your input. Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
A useful command
Hi all. I wanted to share what may be a useful command for filling in data and setting controls on a card. This assumes you have an array whose key names “match” control names with the following rules: Fields you want filled must begin with “fld” Checkboxes you want hilited must begin with “btn” and the value must be true or false Menu style buttons you want to set must begin with “mnu” and the value must be one of the choices for the menu Radio button groups must begin with “rdo” and the value must be one of the button names in the group Datagrids you want populated can be named as you please, and the value must be an encoded array For instance a field named “fldCustomerName” will be populated with the value in key theData[“customername”]. A field simply named “customername” will be ignored. I use this convention because this is how I distinguish positively the fields I want populated and the ones I want to leave alone. Also, it’s how I determine the method for populating the control. Since I use sqlYoga a BUNCH, the data I return from query calls is an numbered array of arrays representing the returned records. Since I sometimes store whole data grid arrays in SQL, I have to encode them first, hence the need to arrayEncode them first. If I pass a single array record from the numbered array I get from sqlYoga queries, this command will populate any form that uses this naming convention. However, you can build your own array and it will work fine. I hope you like it. DISCLAIMER: I have not completely debugged it yet, I just wrote it so use with caution. Bob on populate theData if theData is not an array then exit populate put the keys of theData into theKeyList repeat for each line theKey in theKeyList put fld theKey into theFieldName put btn theKey into theButtonName put mnu theKey into theMenuName put rdo theKey into theRadioName put theKey into theDGName if there is a field theFieldName then put theData [theKey] into field theFieldName next repeat end if if there is a button theButtonName and the style of button theButtonName is checkbox then set the hilite of button theButtonName to theData [theKey] next repeat end if if there is a button theMenuName then put lineOffset(theData [theKey], the text of button theMenuName) into theFoundLine set the menuHistory of button theMenuName to theFoundLine next repeat end if if there is a group theRdoName then set the hilitedButtonName of group theRdoName to theData [theKey] next repeat end if if there is a group theDGName then try put arrayDecode(theData [theKey]) into theDGData set the dgData of group theDGName to theDGData catch theError end try end if end repeat end populate ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
