Re: Alphadata Crashes Livecode

2014-05-01 Thread Ray
Dar - thanks for your response.  After a little more poking around I've 
discovered this bug only shows up when you get the alphaData of [a 
referenced image] which has been reduced in size.  I'm going to play 
around with it a little more and then I'll make a bug report.


Thanks,

Ray

On 5/1/2014 5:42 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

I’m guessing this is not in the bug database, but you might try some searches.

Submit a stack if you can, if you make a bug report.  Also note whether this is 
a referenced image and what your image related properties are.

(The alphaData bytes will be all 255, right?)

Dar

On May 1, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:


Does anybody know if this is a known bug?

I have two .jpeg images.  One's 68 KB and the other is 116 KB.  If I try to put the 
alphaData of img [myImage] into myVar, where myImage's fileName is that of the 
larger jpeg file, Livecode crashes, even if I put the command in a try-catch.  The 
smaller one doesn't crash.

I'm using LC version 6.5.2 with Windows 8.1

Thanks!

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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Richard Gaskin

Dar Scott wrote:

 larry wrote:

 What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation
...

 According to the edition information at the front of the document,
 this is 3 1/2 years old.

 I intend to include this in my list of books I’m giving to a customer.

I would include it.  It's 378 pages of useful stuff, and it's biggest 
failing is merely that they haven't updated the copyright date on that page.


I would imagine that after that much time there would be an error or two 
in it, but I haven't come across specific inaccuracies, and I've been 
asking for months and haven't been able to find anyone else who can help 
me turn up any.


As a User Guide it remains a good starting point to get the lay of the 
land, with the updated-with-each-release Dictionary for token details.



 I wonder it it can be or should be more integrated.

Integrated in what way?

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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
Actually, it may well help.  Fun ways to learn are important.

Plus, it contributes to the mass of books.

Dar

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On May 1, 2014, at 4:00 PM, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote:

 I don't suppose my modest LiveCode and Games eBook is going to be win over any
 corporations or other business types to LiveCode.
 
 But given the name of this thread, I can't resist mentioning it here.
 
 http://livecodegamedeveloper.com/book.html
 
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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Friends,

For those that want to check things out, I've uploaded a video showing the
creation of a minimal stack that is able to post to Facebook.

http://vimeo.com/93548602

=D


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
 GRAVE!

 Hey Folks,

 Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
 the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5 and
 Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
 been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is always
 impressed.

 Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
 managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
 works.

 You can learn more about it at:

 http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/

 Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
 relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I will
 sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
 decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an MVP.

 The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
 and photos to a user wall.

 I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib available.

 Check them out and send any feedback my way.

 Cheers
 Andre

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User Guide (was Re: wait with messages)

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
Hi, Richard!

I am not sure how it might be integrated.  Maybe links form the dictionary to 
sections.  Maybe links from example code in the guide to the dictionary.  Maybe 
the ability to open up the section from the editor.  Maybe a one-click way to 
copy example source (or even objects) so it would be easy to paste into scripts 
and onto cards.  

I don’t know if any of this is worth the effort or whether there would be a 
coordination problem, but I was just pondering.  And I start big in dreaming.

It is good to hear that it might not be as old as the revision date at the top 
implies.

Dar


On May 1, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 Dar Scott wrote:
 
  larry wrote:
 
  What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation
 ...
 
  According to the edition information at the front of the document,
  this is 3 1/2 years old.
 
  I intend to include this in my list of books I’m giving to a customer.
 
 I would include it.  It's 378 pages of useful stuff, and it's biggest failing 
 is merely that they haven't updated the copyright date on that page.
 
 I would imagine that after that much time there would be an error or two in 
 it, but I haven't come across specific inaccuracies, and I've been asking for 
 months and haven't been able to find anyone else who can help me turn up any.
 
 As a User Guide it remains a good starting point to get the lay of the land, 
 with the updated-with-each-release Dictionary for token details.
 
 
  I wonder it it can be or should be more integrated.
 
 Integrated in what way?
 
 -- 
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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
 
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Premium conference tickets going cheap

2014-05-01 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi Folks

Unfortunately my personal situation isn't getting better any time soon and so 
I've had to decide to pull out of the conference this year. I will miss it and 
look forward to being able to attend in 2015. I'm a long way behind with work 
and still have many days where I need to focus my attention on Rebecca and the 
kids so it's looking like I'll be catching up on things for the rest of the 
year. As a result of that and Rebecca neither feeling like she can contemplate 
a big trip nor wanting me to be away I am putting my tickets up for silent 
auction starting at US$1100. The tickets are currently priced at US$2199 on 
runrevlive.com. 

So if you are thinking of going to the conference send an email to: monte at 
goulding.ws with Tickets in the subject line and a bid price higher than 
US$1000 in the body. I'll let the winner know mid-May. I was going to just ask 
for a refund but I think this is better as RunRev can keep what I paid them and 
someone that might not have been able to afford the conference can get a sweet 
deal. Just so we are clear it's a silent auction so you put in your bid and 
don't know if you won or lost until all bids are in.

Cheers

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Re: The parlous state of Rounded Rectangular buttons - Found word(s) list error in the Text body

2014-05-01 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob-

Thursday, May 1, 2014, 11:55:52 AM, you wrote:

 Isn’t Native Controls what version 7 is going to give us?

That would be nice, wouldn't it? But no.

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LC, Android video control

2014-05-01 Thread Richard Miller
Is it possible to have frame-by-frame video control through LC on an 
Android phone? As well, to be able to jump to any point in a video?


Thanks,
Richard Miller

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[ANN] Looking for Proof Reader

2014-05-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

VOLUNTEER WANTED

I'm writing a new book about LiveCode, to be released in a few months. 
I'm looking for a volunteer who wants to proof read the book. The book 
is in English and you need to be a CS teacher. Currently, one person is 
proof reading and I think there should be another one to make sure that 
all mistakes are found.


What you get:
- You get to read the book before (almost) anyone else;
- Evidently, you get a free copy of the book;
- You help to decide what students will learn in class (very useful if 
you're using LiveCode as a teacher);
- Your name will be mentioned in the book and you can put that on your 
resume if you want.


What I'm looking for:
- You need to have fluent English skills;
- You need to be a CS teacher;
- it isn't required to be familiar with LiveCode;
- you need to have loads of spare time during the next 3 months.

Just send me a message if you're interested.

Feel free to forward this message to anyone who might be interested.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Installer Maker for LiveCode:
http://qery.us/468

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Re: Full text justification

2014-05-01 Thread Dave Kilroy
Thanks for the info Peter

I did other testing on Windows and get variable results too (my approach of
setting certain chars to the imagesource of a 1 pixel wide image does appear
to be fragile to how LiveCode and the OS treat wrapping in a field.

I did try other approaches (like adding spaces) but the imagesource route
gave the best results...

Interesting that one of the fields that failed for you was the narrow field,
so far this has been the most reliable one.

In the app I'm working on (on Windows) I seem to have it OK on wide fields
as long as I accept a fairly high tolerance (and therefore a relatively
ragged right-hand margin).

I'm working to a deadline now, but will come back to this next week...

Kind regards

Dave



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Re: [ANN] Looking for Proof Reader

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Kluthe
Are we going to be able to get digital copies of this one?


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 VOLUNTEER WANTED

 I'm writing a new book about LiveCode, to be released in a few months. I'm
 looking for a volunteer who wants to proof read the book. The book is in
 English and you need to be a CS teacher. Currently, one person is proof
 reading and I think there should be another one to make sure that all
 mistakes are found.

 What you get:
 - You get to read the book before (almost) anyone else;
 - Evidently, you get a free copy of the book;
 - You help to decide what students will learn in class (very useful if
 you're using LiveCode as a teacher);
 - Your name will be mentioned in the book and you can put that on your
 resume if you want.

 What I'm looking for:
 - You need to have fluent English skills;
 - You need to be a CS teacher;
 - it isn't required to be familiar with LiveCode;
 - you need to have loads of spare time during the next 3 months.

 Just send me a message if you're interested.

 Feel free to forward this message to anyone who might be interested.

 --
 Best regards,

 Mark Schonewille

 Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
 Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
 Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
 KvK: 50277553

 Installer Maker for LiveCode:
 http://qery.us/468

 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
 http://qery.us/3fi

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Re: [ANN] Looking for Proof Reader

2014-05-01 Thread Mark Schonewille

Andrew,

I can't say anything about that yet. I can't even say what will be in 
the book, at this point.


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Installer Maker for LiveCode:
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Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner 
http://qery.us/3fi


LiveCode on Facebook:
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On 5/1/2014 15:14, Andrew Kluthe wrote:

Are we going to be able to get digital copies of this one?


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:


VOLUNTEER WANTED

I'm writing a new book about LiveCode, to be released in a few months. I'm
looking for a volunteer who wants to proof read the book. The book is in
English and you need to be a CS teacher. Currently, one person is proof
reading and I think there should be another one to make sure that all
mistakes are found.

What you get:
- You get to read the book before (almost) anyone else;
- Evidently, you get a free copy of the book;
- You help to decide what students will learn in class (very useful if
you're using LiveCode as a teacher);
- Your name will be mentioned in the book and you can put that on your
resume if you want.

What I'm looking for:
- You need to have fluent English skills;
- You need to be a CS teacher;
- it isn't required to be familiar with LiveCode;
- you need to have loads of spare time during the next 3 months.

Just send me a message if you're interested.

Feel free to forward this message to anyone who might be interested.

--
Best regards,

Mark Schonewille

Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering
Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
KvK: 50277553

Installer Maker for LiveCode:
http://qery.us/468

Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
http://qery.us/3fi

LiveCode on Facebook:
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Re: LC, Android video control

2014-05-01 Thread Mark Wilcox
I'm not aware of any external that gives you low-level video access on Android.

I think it would be possible to create such an external but - Android externals 
are a rather new feature, Monte did a lot of the work to enable them (I'm not 
sure if anyone else has built one yet?) and lower level video control / editing 
only appeared in Android version 4.0. To support anything earlier than that 
you'd have to do it all on the CPU with the Android FFmpeg port rather than the 
hardware video decoders.

Guaranteeing it would work across a very wide range of Android devices would be 
tough due to the hardware fragmentation. Some new Android devices don't have 
the stock Movie Studio app included - makes me suspicious. Probably OK on 
anything with a Qualcomm chip though.

RunRev are supposed to be doing an overhaul of multimedia as part of the 
Kickstarter goals... not sure what's in the requirements for that.

Mark
On Thursday, 1 May 2014, 12:11, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
 
Is it possible to have frame-by-frame video control through LC on an 
Android phone? As well, to be able to jump to any point in a video?

Thanks,
Richard Miller


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Re: LC, Android video control

2014-05-01 Thread Richard Miller

Thanks, Mark.

Is there even support yet for capturing video on an Android device 
through LC?





On 5/1/14, 9:29 AM, Mark Wilcox wrote:

I'm not aware of any external that gives you low-level video access on Android.

I think it would be possible to create such an external but - Android externals 
are a rather new feature, Monte did a lot of the work to enable them (I'm not 
sure if anyone else has built one yet?) and lower level video control / editing 
only appeared in Android version 4.0. To support anything earlier than that 
you'd have to do it all on the CPU with the Android FFmpeg port rather than the 
hardware video decoders.

Guaranteeing it would work across a very wide range of Android devices would be 
tough due to the hardware fragmentation. Some new Android devices don't have 
the stock Movie Studio app included - makes me suspicious. Probably OK on 
anything with a Qualcomm chip though.

RunRev are supposed to be doing an overhaul of multimedia as part of the 
Kickstarter goals... not sure what's in the requirements for that.

Mark
On Thursday, 1 May 2014, 12:11, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:
  
Is it possible to have frame-by-frame video control through LC on an

Android phone? As well, to be able to jump to any point in a video?

Thanks,
Richard Miller


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Calling External Developers

2014-05-01 Thread Mike Kerner
Guys,
I have things I want to have done, and in some cases, externals are the
only way to go.  I don't feel like writing them, so I'm looking to folks
who are interested in making them happen.

Monte has already told me he's going to be too busy for the next few months
to take on anything new, so email me if you're game.

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wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread larry
I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the user to 
leave as soon as he/she wishes.

This was my previous code and it worked fine:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that the user 
could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8 seconds was 
up.

and this is my new code:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds with messages

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the new code is this:

IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8 
seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did

but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then everything goes 
completely CUCKOO!!

So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is that I 
added with messages

Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if the user 
clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.

TIA for any help

Larry
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7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Richmond

At the risk of getting in bad odour with the mothership again

(face it, that happens so regularly in my case that I've stopped caring)

I notice a DP3 of 7.0.0. is currently available here:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

and it hasn't been announced.

Why? Well, I can think of 3 possible reasons:

1. RunRev want Richmond to look like a monkey again, shouting before . . .

2. RunRev forgot to announce the DP3 release.

3. MayDay means that the RunRev folk are partying like there's no tomorrow.

Let's hope it's the last.

Richmond.

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Proof Reading

2014-05-01 Thread Richmond

Why do I have a feeling that 'proof reading' in this
case will not just involve proof reading; but:

1. Style Editing (something I am extremely experienced at).

2. Trying out all the exercises in Livecode.

Richmond.

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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Roger Eller
I'm guessing it's #1.  You have to admit, it's pretty funny when that
happens.  ;-)



On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 At the risk of getting in bad odour with the mothership again

 (face it, that happens so regularly in my case that I've stopped caring)

 I notice a DP3 of 7.0.0. is currently available here:

 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/

 and it hasn't been announced.

 Why? Well, I can think of 3 possible reasons:

 1. RunRev want Richmond to look like a monkey again, shouting before . . .

 2. RunRev forgot to announce the DP3 release.

 3. MayDay means that the RunRev folk are partying like there's no tomorrow.

 Let's hope it's the last.

 Richmond.

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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Chris Sheffield
It was announced. To both this list and the developer list.

I received the message yesterday around 10:30 am, MDT.

Chris

On May 1, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 At the risk of getting in bad odour with the mothership again
 
 (face it, that happens so regularly in my case that I've stopped caring)
 
 I notice a DP3 of 7.0.0. is currently available here:
 
 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
 
 and it hasn't been announced.
 
 Why? Well, I can think of 3 possible reasons:
 
 1. RunRev want Richmond to look like a monkey again, shouting before . . .
 
 2. RunRev forgot to announce the DP3 release.
 
 3. MayDay means that the RunRev folk are partying like there's no tomorrow.
 
 Let's hope it's the last.
 
 Richmond.
 
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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Marc Van Cauwenberghe
I too think it’s number 1. :)

It was announced yesterday.

Marc


Op 1-mei-2014, om 18:22 heeft Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com het 
volgende geschreven:

 At the risk of getting in bad odour with the mothership again
 
 (face it, that happens so regularly in my case that I've stopped caring)
 
 I notice a DP3 of 7.0.0. is currently available here:
 
 http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
 
 and it hasn't been announced.
 
 Why? Well, I can think of 3 possible reasons:
 
 1. RunRev want Richmond to look like a monkey again, shouting before . . .
 
 2. RunRev forgot to announce the DP3 release.
 
 3. MayDay means that the RunRev folk are partying like there's no tomorrow.
 
 Let's hope it's the last.
 
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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Richmond

On 01/05/14 19:33, Chris Sheffield wrote:

It was announced. To both this list and the developer list.

I received the message yesterday around 10:30 am, MDT.

Chris




Ah. good. Missed it somehow.

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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Richmond

On 01/05/14 19:30, Roger Eller wrote:

I'm guessing it's #1.  You have to admit, it's pretty funny when that
happens.  ;-)



That would be OK if RunRev lobbed me the odd banana now and again.

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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
Larry,

Look at ‘send … in 8 seconds’ .  Also look at playing messages, and also other 
things related to send: ‘cancel’ and ‘pendingMessages’.

I think we can give a short example, if it will help.

Think on what you want the second click to do.  Restart the sounds?  Be ignored 
if during sounds?

Think on your timing.  Do you want to specify start of 1 to start of 2?  Or end 
of 1 to start of 2?

Dar


On May 1, 2014, at 9:54 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the user to 
 leave as soon as he/she wishes.
 
 This was my previous code and it worked fine:
 
 play audioclip Sound1.wav
 
 wait 8 seconds
 
 play audioclip Sound2.wav looping
 
 the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that the 
 user could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8 
 seconds was up.
 
 and this is my new code:
 
 play audioclip Sound1.wav
 
 wait 8 seconds with messages
 
 play audioclip Sound2.wav looping
 
 the problem with the new code is this:
 
 IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8 
 seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did
 
 but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then everything 
 goes completely CUCKOO!!
 
 So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is that 
 I added with messages
 
 Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if the 
 user clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.
 
 TIA for any help
 
 Larry
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Re: 7 dp3

2014-05-01 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 1 May 2014, at 17:37, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 That would be OK if RunRev lobbed me the odd banana now and again.

*throws banana at Richmond*


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Enhancement Requests

2014-05-01 Thread Richmond

I wonder why the search facility searchs bug reports, but
not enhancement requests?

Richmond.

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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Larry:

This is probably a situation where wait with messages will not work.  If
you want to cancel sound 2 independently of sound 1, the second sound
needs to have its own play message so it can be canceled separately.  This
is why I originally suggested the possibility of using a loop script or
similar.

You might try something like this (watch line wrap):

# PLAY SOUND 1
on openStack
   play ac sound1.wav
   send playBack2 to me in 8 seconds
end openStack

# PLAY SOUND 2
command playBack2
   play ac sound2.wav looping
end playBack2

# CANCEL PLAYBACK OF SOUND 2
# BEFORE OR AFTER PLAYBACK HAS STARTED
command cancelPlayBack2
   cancel item 1 of line lineOffset(playBack2,pendingMessages()) of
pendingMessages()
   play stop
end cancelPlayBack2


Now, any control that user can press to cancel the playback of sound 2
needs to include a call to the above cancelPlayBack2 command in its
script.  Note that this will also stop playback of any imported sound due
to the play stop.
   

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 5/1/14 8:54 AM, la...@significantplanet.org
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the
user to leave as soon as he/she wishes.

This was my previous code and it worked fine:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that the
user could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8
seconds was up.

and this is my new code:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds with messages

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the new code is this:

IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8
seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did

but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then
everything goes completely CUCKOO!!

So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is
that I added with messages

Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if the
user clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.

TIA for any help

Larry
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Re: Proof Reading

2014-05-01 Thread Andrew Kluthe
An opportunity for the masochists among us.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 Why do I have a feeling that 'proof reading' in this
 case will not just involve proof reading; but:

 1. Style Editing (something I am extremely experienced at).

 2. Trying out all the exercises in Livecode.

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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
I’d be pleased to send a summary to the list, if I get more than two responses.

On May 1, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:

 I am encouraging the use of LiveCode as a preferred language for a 
 corporation and some its sister companies.
 
 Once of the concerns expressed is the lack of books.
 
 I’ll do my diligence in searching lists, Amazon and the web in general, but I 
 wonder if people could mention their books or book projects or books that 
 might not get mentioned otherwise.  
 
 I also crave reasons why such a lack (if real) is mitigated.  
 
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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread larry

Thanks Scott,

Here is the workaround I did:
on openStack
 play ac sound1.wav
 send mouseDoubleUp to image bigPlay in 8 seconds
end openStack

in the script of image bigPlay I have:
on mouseDoubleUp
 play ac sound2.wav
end mouseDoubleUp

also in the script of image bigPlay I have
on mouseUp
 (do a bunch of other stuff too)
 stop playing ac sound1.wav
 stop playing ac sound2.wav
end mouseUp

What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, wait 
with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.  I'm 
constantly wasting my time fighting something that doesn't work and then 
ending up having to do a workaround as shown above.


And as an FYI in case you ever run into this:  I imported a folder of audio 
files and LC inexplicably made my bigPlay image disappear - even when it 
says visible in the property inspector, is in the top layer and blendlevel 
is 0.  After fighting that twice, I went back and had to import each audio 
file individually.  Note that I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP.


Anyway, thanks for the code below.  I may end up using it somewhere 
sometime.

Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com

To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: wait with messages



Hi Larry:

This is probably a situation where wait with messages will not work.  If
you want to cancel sound 2 independently of sound 1, the second sound
needs to have its own play message so it can be canceled separately.  This
is why I originally suggested the possibility of using a loop script or
similar.

You might try something like this (watch line wrap):

# PLAY SOUND 1
on openStack
  play ac sound1.wav
  send playBack2 to me in 8 seconds
end openStack

# PLAY SOUND 2
command playBack2
  play ac sound2.wav looping
end playBack2

# CANCEL PLAYBACK OF SOUND 2
# BEFORE OR AFTER PLAYBACK HAS STARTED
command cancelPlayBack2
  cancel item 1 of line lineOffset(playBack2,pendingMessages()) of
pendingMessages()
  play stop
end cancelPlayBack2


Now, any control that user can press to cancel the playback of sound 2
needs to include a call to the above cancelPlayBack2 command in its
script.  Note that this will also stop playback of any imported sound due
to the play stop.


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 5/1/14 8:54 AM, la...@significantplanet.org
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the
user to leave as soon as he/she wishes.

This was my previous code and it worked fine:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that the
user could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8
seconds was up.

and this is my new code:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds with messages

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the new code is this:

IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8
seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did

but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then
everything goes completely CUCKOO!!

So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is
that I added with messages

Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if the
user clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.

TIA for any help

Larry
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run/edit tool

2014-05-01 Thread larry
Is there a way to default to the run tool (instead of edit tool) when opening 
LC?

If I forget to choose the run tool before opening my stack then it won't work 
properly because I have in my on openStack a:

send mouseDoubleUp

message, and so LC won't execute it because the edit tool is selected instead 
of the run tool.

TIA
Larry
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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Dar,


Dar Scott wrote
 [snip]
 Once of the concerns expressed is the lack of books.
 I’ll do my diligence in searching lists, Amazon and the web
 in general, but I wonder if people could mention their books
 or book projects or books that might not get mentioned otherwise.  
 [snip]

Mark book is really good for real beginners
http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner

Colin book is essential for Mobile developers
http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-for-android-ios-mobile-development-beginners-guide/book

In LinkedIn, I read about this book
http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-mobile-development-hotshot/book

If my guess is correct, there are more books on the way. :D

Al



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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Colin Holgate
I’m insanely overdue to finish an update to the book, that talks more about 
v6.5 and later. Hopefully I’ll finish it one day!

Whatever the case, when I have that done I’ll sneak people a PDF of the new 
version.


On May 1, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Colin book is essential for Mobile developers
 http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-for-android-ios-mobile-development-beginners-guide/book

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Re: run/edit tool

2014-05-01 Thread Marty Knapp

Larry,
Insert choose browse tool before you send the mouseDoubleUp

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Is there a way to default to the run tool (instead of edit tool) when opening 
LC?

If I forget to choose the run tool before opening my stack then it won't work 
properly because I have in my on openStack a:

send mouseDoubleUp

message, and so LC won't execute it because the edit tool is selected instead 
of the run tool.

TIA
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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
Larry,

I have an old stack called “A Primer on Message Mechanics” that is an 
exhaustive description of “send” and cousins, should you need to get into this 
again.  (Read “belabored” if you want.)  It is here:

http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html

It does cover ‘wait with messages’ briefly, but the emphasis is on ‘send’.  

Dar

On May 1, 2014, at 11:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 Thanks Scott,
 
 Here is the workaround I did:
 on openStack
 play ac sound1.wav
 send mouseDoubleUp to image bigPlay in 8 seconds
 end openStack
 
 in the script of image bigPlay I have:
 on mouseDoubleUp
 play ac sound2.wav
 end mouseDoubleUp
 
 also in the script of image bigPlay I have
 on mouseUp
 (do a bunch of other stuff too)
 stop playing ac sound1.wav
 stop playing ac sound2.wav
 end mouseUp
 
 What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, wait 
 with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.  I'm 
 constantly wasting my time fighting something that doesn't work and then 
 ending up having to do a workaround as shown above.
 
 And as an FYI in case you ever run into this:  I imported a folder of audio 
 files and LC inexplicably made my bigPlay image disappear - even when it 
 says visible in the property inspector, is in the top layer and blendlevel 
 is 0.  After fighting that twice, I went back and had to import each audio 
 file individually.  Note that I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP.
 
 Anyway, thanks for the code below.  I may end up using it somewhere sometime.
 Larry
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
 To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: wait with messages
 
 
 Hi Larry:
 
 This is probably a situation where wait with messages will not work.  If
 you want to cancel sound 2 independently of sound 1, the second sound
 needs to have its own play message so it can be canceled separately.  This
 is why I originally suggested the possibility of using a loop script or
 similar.
 
 You might try something like this (watch line wrap):
 
 # PLAY SOUND 1
 on openStack
  play ac sound1.wav
  send playBack2 to me in 8 seconds
 end openStack
 
 # PLAY SOUND 2
 command playBack2
  play ac sound2.wav looping
 end playBack2
 
 # CANCEL PLAYBACK OF SOUND 2
 # BEFORE OR AFTER PLAYBACK HAS STARTED
 command cancelPlayBack2
  cancel item 1 of line lineOffset(playBack2,pendingMessages()) of
 pendingMessages()
  play stop
 end cancelPlayBack2
 
 
 Now, any control that user can press to cancel the playback of sound 2
 needs to include a call to the above cancelPlayBack2 command in its
 script.  Note that this will also stop playback of any imported sound due
 to the play stop.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 
 
 
 On 5/1/14 8:54 AM, la...@significantplanet.org
 la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
 
 I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the
 user to leave as soon as he/she wishes.
 
 This was my previous code and it worked fine:
 
 play audioclip Sound1.wav
 
 wait 8 seconds
 
 play audioclip Sound2.wav looping
 
 the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that the
 user could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8
 seconds was up.
 
 and this is my new code:
 
 play audioclip Sound1.wav
 
 wait 8 seconds with messages
 
 play audioclip Sound2.wav looping
 
 the problem with the new code is this:
 
 IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8
 seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did
 
 but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then
 everything goes completely CUCKOO!!
 
 So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is
 that I added with messages
 
 Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if the
 user clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.
 
 TIA for any help
 
 Larry
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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread larry

thanks very much, Dar
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Dar Scott d...@swcp.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: wait with messages


Larry,

I have an old stack called “A Primer on Message Mechanics” that is an 
exhaustive description of “send” and cousins, should you need to get into 
this again.  (Read “belabored” if you want.)  It is here:


http://pages.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html

It does cover ‘wait with messages’ briefly, but the emphasis is on ‘send’.

Dar

On May 1, 2014, at 11:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org 
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:



Thanks Scott,

Here is the workaround I did:
on openStack
play ac sound1.wav
send mouseDoubleUp to image bigPlay in 8 seconds
end openStack

in the script of image bigPlay I have:
on mouseDoubleUp
play ac sound2.wav
end mouseDoubleUp

also in the script of image bigPlay I have
on mouseUp
(do a bunch of other stuff too)
stop playing ac sound1.wav
stop playing ac sound2.wav
end mouseUp

What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, 
wait with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use 
it.  I'm constantly wasting my time fighting something that doesn't work 
and then ending up having to do a workaround as shown above.


And as an FYI in case you ever run into this:  I imported a folder of 
audio files and LC inexplicably made my bigPlay image disappear - even 
when it says visible in the property inspector, is in the top layer and 
blendlevel is 0.  After fighting that twice, I went back and had to import 
each audio file individually.  Note that I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP.


Anyway, thanks for the code below.  I may end up using it somewhere 
sometime.

Larry


- Original Message - From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: wait with messages



Hi Larry:

This is probably a situation where wait with messages will not work.  If
you want to cancel sound 2 independently of sound 1, the second sound
needs to have its own play message so it can be canceled separately. 
This

is why I originally suggested the possibility of using a loop script or
similar.

You might try something like this (watch line wrap):

# PLAY SOUND 1
on openStack
 play ac sound1.wav
 send playBack2 to me in 8 seconds
end openStack

# PLAY SOUND 2
command playBack2
 play ac sound2.wav looping
end playBack2

# CANCEL PLAYBACK OF SOUND 2
# BEFORE OR AFTER PLAYBACK HAS STARTED
command cancelPlayBack2
 cancel item 1 of line lineOffset(playBack2,pendingMessages()) of
pendingMessages()
 play stop
end cancelPlayBack2


Now, any control that user can press to cancel the playback of sound 2
needs to include a call to the above cancelPlayBack2 command in its
script.  Note that this will also stop playback of any imported sound due
to the play stop.


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 5/1/14 8:54 AM, la...@significantplanet.org
la...@significantplanet.org wrote:


I have a splash screen and want to play 2 sounds in it, but allow the
user to leave as soon as he/she wishes.

This was my previous code and it worked fine:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the above code is that the wait command meant that 
the

user could not click on the button to go to the main screen until the 8
seconds was up.

and this is my new code:

play audioclip Sound1.wav

wait 8 seconds with messages

play audioclip Sound2.wav looping

the problem with the new code is this:

IF the user clicks on the button (to go to the main screen) AFTER the 8
seconds, then everything works fine - as it always did

but IF the user clicks on the button DURING the 8 seconds, then
everything goes completely CUCKOO!!

So, the only difference in the expected result and the cuckoo result is
that I added with messages

Therefore, I am assuming that I need to so something with messages if 
the

user clicks during the 8 seconds, but I have no idea what to do.

TIA for any help

Larry
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Re: run/edit tool

2014-05-01 Thread larry

Thanks Marty!
very cool
I just inserted choose browse tool as the first line of on openStack and 
it works beautifully

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: run/edit tool



Larry,
Insert choose browse tool before you send the mouseDoubleUp

--
Best regards,
Marty Knapp
Knappster Solutions LLC


Is there a way to default to the run tool (instead of edit tool) when 
opening LC?


If I forget to choose the run tool before opening my stack then it won't 
work properly because I have in my on openStack a:


send mouseDoubleUp

message, and so LC won't execute it because the edit tool is selected 
instead of the run tool.


TIA
Larry
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Re: run/edit tool

2014-05-01 Thread dunbarx
Larry.


You can add a stack to the plugins folder that will load on startup. This can 
have that same simple one-liner that selects the browse tool, but will open on 
a session basis This way you never have to think about it again.



Craig Newman


-Original Message-
From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thu, May 1, 2014 2:01 pm
Subject: Re: run/edit tool


Thanks Marty!
very cool
I just inserted choose browse tool as the first line of on openStack and 
it works beautifully
Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: run/edit tool


 Larry,
 Insert choose browse tool before you send the mouseDoubleUp

 -- 
 Best regards,
 Marty Knapp
 Knappster Solutions LLC


 Is there a way to default to the run tool (instead of edit tool) when 
 opening LC?

 If I forget to choose the run tool before opening my stack then it won't 
 work properly because I have in my on openStack a:

 send mouseDoubleUp

 message, and so LC won't execute it because the edit tool is selected 
 instead of the run tool.

 TIA
 Larry
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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Rossi
I feel your pain.  We're all in (or have been in) that boat.

But I would ask, in what environment is this NOT the case?

In addition to LiveCode, I go through this almost every day with HTML, CSS, 
Javascript, Flash, ecommerce admin tools, and many applications.  In years of 
creative work, I have almost NEVER been able to finish a project without having 
to research or in many cases ask for help, because the detail/feature I wanted 
to implement was too specialized for the documentation (if there even was any). 
 Just the other day I spent an entire day trying to work out a file download 
issue with LiveCode server and HTML.

Fighting with the tool/environment is not unique to LiveCode.  At least with LC 
we have helpful folks on this list, in the forums, and those writing books.  
Not sure how I would get stuff done without those people.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design

 On May 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:
 
 What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, wait 
 with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.  I'm 
 constantly wasting my time fighting something that doesn't work and then 
 ending up having to do a workaround as shown above.

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Editor hints

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
I like the completion help in the message box.

It seemed like I had seen some first stages of help in the editor in the form 
of hints or syntax or completion, I forgot what.  But, I’m not seeing that now.

Is there something and I’m not doing it right?

Dar
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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread larry

hey Scott,
Thanks for the good reminder.  I agree 100% that I couldn't get my project 
done without all the kind people on this list!!!
I was just really frustrated this morning and your wise words have brought 
me back to some sort of sanity.  I'm sure many people who know me well would 
question if I ever am completely sane.

Larry


- Original Message - 
From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com

To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: wait with messages



I feel your pain.  We're all in (or have been in) that boat.

But I would ask, in what environment is this NOT the case?

In addition to LiveCode, I go through this almost every day with HTML, 
CSS, Javascript, Flash, ecommerce admin tools, and many applications.  In 
years of creative work, I have almost NEVER been able to finish a project 
without having to research or in many cases ask for help, because the 
detail/feature I wanted to implement was too specialized for the 
documentation (if there even was any).  Just the other day I spent an 
entire day trying to work out a file download issue with LiveCode server 
and HTML.


Fighting with the tool/environment is not unique to LiveCode.  At least 
with LC we have helpful folks on this list, in the forums, and those 
writing books.  Not sure how I would get stuff done without those people.


Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


On May 1, 2014, at 10:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, 
wait with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use 
it.  I'm constantly wasting my time fighting something that doesn't work 
and then ending up having to do a workaround as shown above.


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User Guide and Dictionary and Personal Notes

2014-05-01 Thread larry

Hello Richard,
Yes, I have read the entire User Guide. But I cannot remember everything 
I've read.
When programming, I mostly look in the Dictionary for finding how to do 
things.
It is my STRONG opinion that LC should make the Dictionary editable for each 
user.  In other words, I should be able to add my own notes to MY 
Dictionary, whether I type those notes in directly, or copy/paste them from 
these emails in the user list or from the User Guide.  Then I would have MY 
PERSONAL notes all in one handy place - my personal copy of the Dictionary.
That feature would be VERY helpful to me and I suspect to other LC 
programmers as well.

Of course I would want to port that Dictionary to future versions of LC.
Thanks for listening,
Larry
P.S. It is pretty much impossible for ANY User Guide/Dictionary to be 
complete because there are too many different scenarios in programming to 
cover every possible contingency.  That is precisely why being able to add 
PERSONAL NOTES would be so helpful.



- Original Message - 
From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com

To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: wait with messages



larry wrote:

What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, 
wait

with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.


The docs team at RunRev is working on a rewrite of the User Guide, and 
part of my role as Community Manager is to help provide feedback from the 
community to inform their efforts.


How much of the existing User Guide have you read, and did you find 
anything in it that was inaccurate or incomplete?


--
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 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org

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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Richard Gaskin

larry wrote:


What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, wait
with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.


The docs team at RunRev is working on a rewrite of the User Guide, and 
part of my role as Community Manager is to help provide feedback from 
the community to inform their efforts.


How much of the existing User Guide have you read, and did you find 
anything in it that was inaccurate or incomplete?


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 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org

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Re: wait with messages

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
I’m so glad you brought this up.  According to the edition information at the 
front of the document, this is 3 1/2 years old.

I intend to include this in my list of books I’m giving to a customer.

I wonder it it can be or should be more integrated.

Dar


On May 1, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 larry wrote:
 
 What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example, wait
 with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.
 
 The docs team at RunRev is working on a rewrite of the User Guide, and part 
 of my role as Community Manager is to help provide feedback from the 
 community to inform their efforts.
 
 How much of the existing User Guide have you read, and did you find anything 
 in it that was inaccurate or incomplete?
 
 --
 Richard Gaskin
 LiveCode Community Manager
 rich...@livecode.org
 
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Re: User Guide and Dictionary and Personal Notes

2014-05-01 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Larry

I totally agree with your descriptions of the dictionary and supporting
media. That is why I developed the LC Dictionary Pro app using FileMaker
Advanced. I only received a minimum of support for this app when I tried to
get support for a cloud version of the app. So I put it on the shelf for
another day.

Thank you

Vaughn Clement

Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support)
*http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/
http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/*
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On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:40 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 Hello Richard,
 Yes, I have read the entire User Guide. But I cannot remember everything
 I've read.
 When programming, I mostly look in the Dictionary for finding how to do
 things.
 It is my STRONG opinion that LC should make the Dictionary editable for
 each user.  In other words, I should be able to add my own notes to MY
 Dictionary, whether I type those notes in directly, or copy/paste them from
 these emails in the user list or from the User Guide.  Then I would have MY
 PERSONAL notes all in one handy place - my personal copy of the Dictionary.
 That feature would be VERY helpful to me and I suspect to other LC
 programmers as well.
 Of course I would want to port that Dictionary to future versions of LC.
 Thanks for listening,
 Larry
 P.S. It is pretty much impossible for ANY User Guide/Dictionary to be
 complete because there are too many different scenarios in programming to
 cover every possible contingency.  That is precisely why being able to add
 PERSONAL NOTES would be so helpful.


 - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:31 PM
 Subject: Re: wait with messages


  larry wrote:

  What really BUGS me about LiveCode is that the documentation (example,
 wait
 with messages) is SO sketchy, that you cannot figure out how to use it.


 The docs team at RunRev is working on a rewrite of the User Guide, and
 part of my role as Community Manager is to help provide feedback from the
 community to inform their efforts.

 How much of the existing User Guide have you read, and did you find
 anything in it that was inaccurate or incomplete?

 --
  Richard Gaskin
  LiveCode Community Manager
  rich...@livecode.org

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[ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Andre Garzia
As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
GRAVE!

Hey Folks,

Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5 and
Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is always
impressed.

Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
works.

You can learn more about it at:

http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/

Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I will
sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an MVP.

The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
and photos to a user wall.

I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib available.

Check them out and send any feedback my way.

Cheers
Andre

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Alphadata Crashes Livecode

2014-05-01 Thread Ray

Does anybody know if this is a known bug?

I have two .jpeg images.  One's 68 KB and the other is 116 KB.  If I try 
to put the alphaData of img [myImage] into myVar, where myImage's 
fileName is that of the larger jpeg file, Livecode crashes, even if I 
put the command in a try-catch.  The smaller one doesn't crash.


I'm using LC version 6.5.2 with Windows 8.1

Thanks!

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Re: The parlous state of Rounded Rectangular buttons - Found word(s) list error in the Text body

2014-05-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
Isn’t Native Controls what version 7 is going to give us?

Bob

On Apr 29, 2014, at 16:02 , Mark Wieder 
mwie...@ahsoftware.netmailto:mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

...and I'll third it. I'd love to have native controls for whatever
platform, but I'm not holding my breath for that. I just usually end
up using images for buttons. No, they don't scale, but they look a
whole lot better than those flat rounded things.

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Re: Problem naming groups with integers - Found word(s) list error in the Text body

2014-05-01 Thread Bob Sneidar
Every value in LC is a string, that is to say there is no variable typing. The 
parser determines at runtime how to treat it, and if it can be used as such. I 
can say PUT “1” + 1 but I cannot say PUT “one” + 1.

Bob S


On Apr 19, 2014, at 09:57 , Stephen MacLean 
smacl...@madmansoft.commailto:smacl...@madmansoft.com wrote:

Thanks Scott!

So, even though I'm enclosing it in quotes, LC still thinks that?

Strange behavior, since it's a string and not a number, but I can deal with it. 
Change already made:)

Best,

Steve

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Re: Zurich meeting this summer

2014-05-01 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Hi persons who use LC

Just a quick reminder that we're currently planning a meet-up in Zurich. 
There's already a few interested persons. So if you are also interested, please 
send me an email, so I can let you know directly about when/what/where, as soon 
as we've decided on anything. Don't forget to also fill out the times that 
you're most likely available on this form:

http://doodle.com/yapygihh3itgz2qr

cheers

Björnke
Mark

PS: If you need help about where to stay in Zurich or info about additional 
activities, don't hesitate to ask those questions as early as possible!


On 20 Apr 2014, at 01:40, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi everyone
 
 Me and Mark are starting to prepare a meetup in Zurich (Switzerland), late 
 June or early July.  If you’re interested in joining us, it’d be great to 
 know when you’ll be able to participate. Please take two minutes to fill out 
 this date tableau:  
 
 http://doodle.com/yapygihh3itgz2qr
 
 Also, if you are interested, PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL directly, so I can let 
 you know about venue and exact date/time, as soon as we know more about those.
 
 Currently we aim to sit around, talk about LiveCode and have fun. Obviously 
 knowing German or being Swiss is not a requirement. If you're from further 
 away, I'm in the process of finding suitable accommodations. Maybe we'll do a 
 tour trough the city the day before or after? Nothing has been decided yet, 
 so please send us suggestions, questions, etc.
 
 We can’t wait to meet up!
 
 Bjoernke von Gierke
 Mark Schonewille
 
 --
 
 Hoi Zsäme
 
 Ich und Mark denken darüber nach ein Treffen in Zürich zu organisieren, 
 irgendwann ende Juni oder Anfang Juli. Falls du interessiert bist, währe es 
 extrem hilfreich zu wissen dass du teilnehmen willst. Wähl doch bitte deine 
 möglichen Termine in dieser Tabelle aus:
 
 http://doodle.com/yapygihh3itgz2qr
 
 Ausserdem SCHICK MIR EINE EMAIL, damit ich dich direkt über Austragungsort, 
 Datum und Zeiten sowie andere Details direkt informieren kann, sobald wir 
 mehr darüber wissen.
 
 Wir wollen vor allem rumsitzen, quatschen und Spass haben. Schweitzerdeutsch 
 ist natürlich keine Voraussetzung. Ich suche derzeit nach 
 Übernachtungsmöglichkeiten für Leute von ausserhalb. Vielleicht gibts auch 
 noch einen Stadtrundgang am Vortag oder so was? Wir haben uns noch nicht 
 festgelegt, also schickt uns auch eure Vorschläge, Fragen, und so weiter.
 
 Wir freuen uns schon aufs Treffen!
 
 Björnke von Gierke
 Mark Schonewille

--

Anyone thinking about going to Zurich in the summer? 
Please fill out the form and send me an email: 
http://doodle.com/yapygihh3itgz2qr

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Re: Alphadata Crashes Livecode

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
I’m guessing this is not in the bug database, but you might try some searches.

Submit a stack if you can, if you make a bug report.  Also note whether this is 
a referenced image and what your image related properties are.

(The alphaData bytes will be all 255, right?)

Dar

On May 1, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 Does anybody know if this is a known bug?
 
 I have two .jpeg images.  One's 68 KB and the other is 116 KB.  If I try to 
 put the alphaData of img [myImage] into myVar, where myImage's fileName is 
 that of the larger jpeg file, Livecode crashes, even if I put the command in 
 a try-catch.  The smaller one doesn't crash.
 
 I'm using LC version 6.5.2 with Windows 8.1
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Rossi
http://i-view.net/stuff/welcome_back.jpg


:-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 5/1/14 11:51 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
GRAVE!

Hey Folks,

Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5
and
Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is always
impressed.

Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
works.

You can learn more about it at:

http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/

Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I
will
sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an
MVP.

The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
and photos to a user wall.

I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib
available.

Check them out and send any feedback my way.

Cheers
Andre

-- 
http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code.
http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service.


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Revsecurity.dll

2014-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
My client wants only a single executable file to be visible in the app 
folder. The app requires revsecurity.dll. Can someone verify that if I 
hide it, it will still work? I don't see why not, but who knows.


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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 5/1/14, 1:51 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
GRAVE!


Andre, I've missed you. I am so glad you're back!

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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Andre Garzia
auhahuahuahuahuauhauha

Its very good to be back my friends!

Hey Jacqu :D


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

 http://i-view.net/stuff/welcome_back.jpg


 :-)

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




 On 5/1/14 11:51 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
 GRAVE!
 
 Hey Folks,
 
 Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
 the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5
 and
 Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
 been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is always
 impressed.
 
 Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
 managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
 works.
 
 You can learn more about it at:
 
 http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/
 
 Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
 relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I
 will
 sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
 decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an
 MVP.
 
 The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
 and photos to a user wall.
 
 I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib
 available.
 
 Check them out and send any feedback my way.
 
 Cheers
 Andre
 
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LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread RunRevPlanet
I don't suppose my modest LiveCode and Games eBook is going to be win over any
corporations or other business types to LiveCode.

But given the name of this thread, I can't resist mentioning it here.

http://livecodegamedeveloper.com/book.html

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Re: I lost my property inspector

2014-05-01 Thread Dar Scott
I got this when dropping an Option Menu on 7.0dp3 .   I took a picture of it.  
This didn’t have the way-off-screen or wrong mode like I saw before.  Do you 
have a bug report I can upload the picture to?

Dar

On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote:

 Dar, your stack is not broken. I reported this last week, and only a few 
 people could reproduce it. I got the same results with a new stack. I suspect 
 that people were not following my recipe, and so did not see the problem. Try 
 this: 
 
 1. Quit Livecode
 2. Launch Livecode
 3. Create new stack
 4. Drag combo box into new stack
 5. Get properties of combo box
 
 You *should* get the same results. 
 
 Jacque:
 Your clients are seeing the problem I reported earlier, only I am not sure 
 they know how they produced it. The reason only a few people are see in it, 
 is because if you get ANY OTHER PROPERTIES first, the problem does not 
 exhibit itself. At least this is what my tests revealed. That is why you MUST 
 follow the above formula to see it. 
 
 It may also be that other things will produce this, but I only know of this 
 one. Once you successfully get the properties of an object, you will not see 
 this problem until the next time you start Livecode. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Apr 30, 2014, at 06:01 , Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:
 
 I found a workaround.
 
 It turned out to be just that one button on that one stack.
 
 I can open the object inspector on some other object and after a few seconds 
 it comes up.  
 
 Then I can click on that bad button after that and the object inspector 
 comes up with weird values in the fields.  “Combobox Menu” in the name field 
 and ‘stack revTemplatePalette”’ in the label field and most of the controls 
 are dimmed.  I try it again and it works.  
 
 So I can get it working, but I think my stack is broken.  I have no idea how 
 a broken stack can keep the object inspector from working.  This is just a 
 plain stack.
 
 So I figure either the stack is corrupted (maybe by a LiveCode bug) or I did 
 something to the stack and in particular that button.
 
 Any ideas on what I could have done?
 
 Dar
 
 
 
 On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:27 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 On 4/28/14, 5:54 PM, Dar Scott wrote:
 Could something in the preferences do this?
 
 That was my first thought, especially since it persists across different 
 versions of LC. Trash your prefs.
 
 -- 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Simon Smith
And a great book it is Scott :)

(bought it 2 or so weeks ago)




On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:00 AM, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote:

 I don't suppose my modest LiveCode and Games eBook is going to be win over
 any
 corporations or other business types to LiveCode.

 But given the name of this thread, I can't resist mentioning it here.

 http://livecodegamedeveloper.com/book.html

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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-01 Thread Simon Smith
I have been toying with writing some sort of reference guide on the server
side things.


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

 I’m insanely overdue to finish an update to the book, that talks more
 about v6.5 and later. Hopefully I’ll finish it one day!

 Whatever the case, when I have that done I’ll sneak people a PDF of the
 new version.


 On May 1, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Alejandro Tejada capellan2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Colin book is essential for Mobile developers
 
 http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-for-android-ios-mobile-development-beginners-guide/book

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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Folks,

I've issued free orders to all those that contributed back then. Please
send feedback once you receive yours.

Cheers


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 auhahuahuahuahuauhauha

 Its very good to be back my friends!

 Hey Jacqu :D


 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote:

 http://i-view.net/stuff/welcome_back.jpg


 :-)

 Regards,

 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




 On 5/1/14 11:51 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
 GRAVE!
 
 Hey Folks,
 
 Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
 the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5
 and
 Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
 been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is
 always
 impressed.
 
 Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
 managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
 works.
 
 You can learn more about it at:
 
 http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/
 
 Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
 relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I
 will
 sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
 decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an
 MVP.
 
 The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
 and photos to a user wall.
 
 I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib
 available.
 
 Check them out and send any feedback my way.
 
 Cheers
 Andre
 
 --
 http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code.
 http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service.
 
 
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