Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software
draw.io looks good to me. Thanks for the link - seem to remember a similar app as a Chrome extension I came across in the last month... On 2 July 2014 22:44, Brahmanathswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: Anyone using Diagramming software. Look for a free option that runs online and is collaborative. Draw.io Pro for Google Apps seems like the best option, but it is never mentioned anywhere in any of the Diagramming software comparisons. -- Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software
Brahmanathswami- Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 2:44:14 PM, you wrote: Anyone using Diagramming software. Look for a free option that runs online and is collaborative. Maybe this? http://blog.chipp.com/category/diagram-creator/ -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Hi Bill, Check out: Use the flushEvents function to prevent unwanted messages from being sent during a handler's execution. be well, randy - On Jul 3, 2014, at 12:32 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Hi Bill, One way to do this: local lBusy,lSecs on mouseUp if lBusy is true then beep exit mouseUp else if lBusy is not true then put true into lBusy put the seconds into lSecs repeat forever with messages // some long task here if the seconds - lSecs 5 then exit repeat wait 0 millisecs with messages end repeat put false into lBusy end if end mouseUp This script doesn't allow running the script again, as long as it hasn't finished. If you have multiple controls that should not be used while the script runs, you can disable the other controls or use a global variable and check the global variable in the other scripts. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 19:32, William Prothero wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
I guess you could lock messages but that would lock all messages not just mouse events. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:32 AM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store?
Hello! Only other option is to purchase an Apple Enterprise License. Then you can distribute apps within your organization , but not to general public. For example, a school district might purchase an enterprise license to distribute home grown apps to their staff. Cheers! John Patten SUSD Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Brahmanathswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: Dumb, old question: Can You Really Install an iOS App outside of Apple's App Store? I'm reviewing again the differences between the Open Source community version and the Commercial license, which I thought I understood well... (See the faq http://livecode.com/support/ask-a-question/) But this is puzzling: Under Open source: 1) Acme Corp wants to distribute their app and source code directly from their website, for use on any platform Commercial option: 2) Acme Corp wants to submit their free or paid iOS or Mac OS app, to the official Apple iTunes or Mac App Store Regarding # 1 above: Can iOS users really download an app from any web site and install it on their iPhone or iPad without going through the App Store? I did not think this was possible unless you had the GUID for each device you want to deploy to and that was limited to 100 devices. But this verbiage -- distribute their app and source code directly from their website, for use on any platform -- implies I could put an iOS app on our site and someone could just download -- drag into iTunes -- sync and voila!... the app is running on their iPhone/iPad. or navigate in their iPhone to a download link and click to install the app Is that even possible? What am I missing here? Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Folks: Actually, I like the method of putting a transparent rectangle over the stack window and trapping all mouse events. That makes the number of places where I have to modify my code much smaller. I have multiple buttons on the screen and they each call a number of handlers. I just thought there might be a command to disable mouse messages. Best, Bill On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Bill, One way to do this: local lBusy,lSecs on mouseUp if lBusy is true then beep exit mouseUp else if lBusy is not true then put true into lBusy put the seconds into lSecs repeat forever with messages // some long task here if the seconds - lSecs 5 then exit repeat wait 0 millisecs with messages end repeat put false into lBusy end if end mouseUp This script doesn't allow running the script again, as long as it hasn't finished. If you have multiple controls that should not be used while the script runs, you can disable the other controls or use a global variable and check the global variable in the other scripts. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 19:32, William Prothero wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software
Surprising that draw.io gets so little press. Free for up to 500 users with unlimited docs... made by http://www.jgraph.com/... which is a pretty advanced company... Lucid Chart and Giffy have other features but they charge https://jgraph.freshdesk.com/support/articles/57101-how-come-draw-io-is-free-and-will-it-stay In terms of the online web site, charging $5 per user per month model is more expensive in administration costs than leaving the product free. The competition has set an unrealistic pricing model in this area, it's not a viable business to enter. And we are very close to real-time collaboration which would be way cool. Check this Jun 13 support doc. https://jgraph.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/312533-how-do-i-get-real-time-collaboration-on-draw-io-using-google Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com David Bovill wrote: draw.io looks good to me. Thanks for the link - seem to remember a similar app as a Chrome extension I came across in the last month... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Hi Bill, If you like your own approach, just do what you think is best. I discourage such brute force approaches however, because if something goes wrong, the only way for the user to get out of the trap is to restart the software. My example can be adjusted fairly easily to provide a way out: local lBusy,lSecs on mouseUp if lBusy is true and the optionKey is up then beep exit mouseUp else if lBusy is not true then put true into lBusy put the seconds into lSecs repeat forever with messages // some long task here if the seconds - lSecs 5 then exit repeat wait 0 millisecs with messages if the optionKey is down then exit mouseUp end repeat put false into lBusy else if the optionKey is down then put false into lBusy // enable disabled controls if any end if end mouseUp -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 21:26, William Prothero wrote: Folks: Actually, I like the method of putting a transparent rectangle over the stack window and trapping all mouse events. That makes the number of places where I have to modify my code much smaller. I have multiple buttons on the screen and they each call a number of handlers. I just thought there might be a command to disable mouse messages. Best, Bill On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Bill, One way to do this: local lBusy,lSecs on mouseUp if lBusy is true then beep exit mouseUp else if lBusy is not true then put true into lBusy put the seconds into lSecs repeat forever with messages // some long task here if the seconds - lSecs 5 then exit repeat wait 0 millisecs with messages end repeat put false into lBusy end if end mouseUp This script doesn't allow running the script again, as long as it hasn't finished. If you have multiple controls that should not be used while the script runs, you can disable the other controls or use a global variable and check the global variable in the other scripts. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 19:32, William Prothero wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Ordinal numbers
So I have a field containing a text string (nothing very special there). BUT, I want to delete the eleventh character. Now scripts like this: delete the tenth char in fld TEKST work superbly. But after 'tenth' we get in a pickle . . . . and we have to do this: delete char 11 in fld TEKST SO; after 'tenth' we switch from Ordinal to Cardinal numbering, which is: 1. Inconsistent. 2. Makes the Livecode Programming is in easy to understand English sort of pronouncement look a bit disingenuous. 3. The Dictionary does NOT warn users about this change: for instance, if one types 'tenth' into the Dictionary search one gets this: Use the tenth keyword in an object reference or chunk expression. It does NOT contain a Government Health Warning like this: For references above 10 one must use Cardinal numbers and the syntax of statements is different. --- Today, having got my 10-13 years olds onto importing and exporting RTF documents; one of them [you know the one: the one you want to both throttle and admire for his/her thinking about 3 kilometres in front of you] asks how do I set up a series of buttons to delete the first, second and third character in a textField? SO, told her (let's cut out the politically correct crap; all the kids I teach who get their heads round Livecode really quickly are girls: the boys just lose interest) to use: delete the third char . . . Of course she obviously overdosed on Coca-Cola before class and decided to have buttons for 1st to 20th (well, she may be good at programming, but she is still a 12 year old kid); and, obviously things go pear-shaped at 'eleventh'. So told the girl that at that point you have to do: delete char 11 . . . AND; LO! out of the mouths of babes . . . That's silly! Which it is, frankly. SO: I did the usually middle-aged teacher fudges around so that, eventually, he looks even more stupid than he does already and told her that the best way to get around that was to do: delete char 1 . . . and, of course, her reply was: So, if that's best why did you tell me about 'first, second' and 'third'? Now I had a choice of things to say at that moment: 1. Because I'm a slob who didn't think about that problem. [possibly the only reasons I didn't use this one was that it was a bit early in the morning for honesty, and, as a Bulgarian learning English she doesn't know the word 'slob'] 2. Because I didn't think you would go beyond 'third' Neither of which are frankly satisfactory. --- Love from the chalk face, Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
On 2014-07-03, at 12:44 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Now I had a choice of things to say at that moment: 1. Because I'm a slob who didn't think about that problem. [possibly the only reasons I didn't use this one was that it was a bit early in the morning for honesty, and, as a Bulgarian learning English she doesn't know the word 'slob'] 2. Because I didn't think you would go beyond 'third' Neither of which are frankly satisfactory. But isn't a teacher's default answer; Because you need to learn to walk before you can run.? Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
Hi Richmond, Ten is defined as a constant and tenth as a keyword according to the dictionary. Eleven and eleventh aren't defined. Although a warning might be appropriate, it is easy to find out why it doesn't work, if one reads the dictionary: eleven and eleventh don't exist. Unfortunately, something lacking from the dictionary doesn't always mean that it doesn't exist :-( I agree it is silly that LiveCode only contains the constants one to ten. I'm not sure that it is possible to have an infinite number of constants defined as ordinal numbers, but it should be possible to do this for very large numbers. Perhaps a feature request? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 21:44, Richmond wrote: So I have a field containing a text string (nothing very special there). BUT, I want to delete the eleventh character. Now scripts like this: delete the tenth char in fld TEKST work superbly. But after 'tenth' we get in a pickle . . . . and we have to do this: delete char 11 in fld TEKST SO; after 'tenth' we switch from Ordinal to Cardinal numbering, which is: 1. Inconsistent. 2. Makes the Livecode Programming is in easy to understand English sort of pronouncement look a bit disingenuous. 3. The Dictionary does NOT warn users about this change: for instance, if one types 'tenth' into the Dictionary search one gets this: Use the tenth keyword in an object reference or chunk expression. It does NOT contain a Government Health Warning like this: For references above 10 one must use Cardinal numbers and the syntax of statements is different. --- Today, having got my 10-13 years olds onto importing and exporting RTF documents; one of them [you know the one: the one you want to both throttle and admire for his/her thinking about 3 kilometres in front of you] asks how do I set up a series of buttons to delete the first, second and third character in a textField? SO, told her (let's cut out the politically correct crap; all the kids I teach who get their heads round Livecode really quickly are girls: the boys just lose interest) to use: delete the third char . . . Of course she obviously overdosed on Coca-Cola before class and decided to have buttons for 1st to 20th (well, she may be good at programming, but she is still a 12 year old kid); and, obviously things go pear-shaped at 'eleventh'. So told the girl that at that point you have to do: delete char 11 . . . AND; LO! out of the mouths of babes . . . That's silly! Which it is, frankly. SO: I did the usually middle-aged teacher fudges around so that, eventually, he looks even more stupid than he does already and told her that the best way to get around that was to do: delete char 1 . . . and, of course, her reply was: So, if that's best why did you tell me about 'first, second' and 'third'? Now I had a choice of things to say at that moment: 1. Because I'm a slob who didn't think about that problem. [possibly the only reasons I didn't use this one was that it was a bit early in the morning for honesty, and, as a Bulgarian learning English she doesn't know the word 'slob'] 2. Because I didn't think you would go beyond 'third' Neither of which are frankly satisfactory. --- Love from the chalk face, Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
On 03/07/14 23:46, Paul Hibbert wrote: On 2014-07-03, at 12:44 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Now I had a choice of things to say at that moment: 1. Because I'm a slob who didn't think about that problem. [possibly the only reasons I didn't use this one was that it was a bit early in the morning for honesty, and, as a Bulgarian learning English she doesn't know the word 'slob'] 2. Because I didn't think you would go beyond 'third' Neither of which are frankly satisfactory. But isn't a teacher's default answer; Because you need to learn to walk before you can run.? Paul That has never, ever struck me as a satisfactory answer to a child who is not some moronic ant in a grinding-mill of a school. While my school is a language school (English as a Foreign Language) thoughtful parents send their children to me because, instead of just force-feeding the children undigested factoids, I force then to think. Every summer I go 'extreme' and use one of the best tools I know to get kids thinking: Livecode. Now, when a kid begins to think ahead of a lesson I have a straight choice: 1. Squash them there and then; turning them into jolly little factory workers. 2. Encouraging their initiative. Well, as a large part of my own education was blighted by Mr Gradgrind's latter day relatives, I have no intention of repeating their disgusting suppression of intelligence on my pupils. - I have always thought of myself as a repressed educational t*rr*rist: longing to blow up schools! [Hey; let's see if this message bounces because of the T word: perhaps I'll bung a couple of stars in there to confuse the bots.] Obviously that is unrealistic and would cause even more suffering than those schools cause already. So, my revolution is to teach children English in a different way to what they get in both their schools and the other EFL schools that are seriously big business hereabouts. I get children coming to me every year after 3-4 years in one of the EFL tanks; they have all sorts of fancy diplomas. Usually the reason why parents bring their kids to me, as that after 3-4 years in a tank they go on holiday to England, Greece or Turkey: at which point the penny drops: although kiddo has the proper way to form the Past Perfect Continuous Passive inside his/her head: they are incapable of asking the way to the bus station, ordering a glass of lemonade, or complaining in the hotel that there is no hot water. So; just as my Great Grandfather, Tom Elkington, was a horse-whisperer in Norfolk; I have to do something different with those children. So; 3-4 levels of heavy communicative approach and process writing; followed by upper level English coupled with the Joy of For . . . Next loops does wonders. -- When my champion went home and built a data-base sort of program in Livecode for her Granddad to keep track of the backgammon league he runs in his small town, I knew that something really good was happening: especially when it turned out that Granddad was a retired programmer who blew his mind that his 12 year old grand-daughter could do that after 6 hours of instruction. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
What would seem a reasonable upper limit to English-like spelled numbers? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
No idea. Just take a pencil, start writing and see when you think you've had enough. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/4/2014 00:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: What would seem a reasonable upper limit to English-like spelled numbers? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Collaborative Diagramming Software
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Brahmanathswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: And we are very close to real-time collaboration which would be way cool. Check this Jun 13 support doc. https://jgraph.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/ 312533-how-do-i-get-real-time-collaboration-on-draw-io-using-google I just installed it and got a choice of Google Drive, Dropbox and a third one which I don't remember. Installed in Google Drive and all seems to work well. Very nice app. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
Another option is to use a frontscript to intercept mouseup (or down) messages before they arrive at the controls on the card. A frontscript is foolproof and will handle all controls, but you need to plan this carefully because, as Mark mentioned, you don't want to leave the stack unable to function normally. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design On Jul 3, 2014, at 12:26 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: Actually, I like the method of putting a transparent rectangle over the stack window and trapping all mouse events. That makes the number of places where I have to modify my code much smaller. I have multiple buttons on the screen and they each call a number of handlers. I just thought there might be a command to disable mouse messages. Best, Bill On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: Hi Bill, One way to do this: local lBusy,lSecs on mouseUp if lBusy is true then beep exit mouseUp else if lBusy is not true then put true into lBusy put the seconds into lSecs repeat forever with messages // some long task here if the seconds - lSecs 5 then exit repeat wait 0 millisecs with messages end repeat put false into lBusy end if end mouseUp This script doesn't allow running the script again, as long as it hasn't finished. If you have multiple controls that should not be used while the script runs, you can disable the other controls or use a global variable and check the global variable in the other scripts. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/3/2014 19:32, William Prothero wrote: Folks: Is it possible to inhibit mouse events? Some of the operations that are initiated by a mouse click require a bit of time and I don’t want the user to be able to click around until each operation is finished. One approach would be to put a transparent rectangle over the stack and not pass events, but I wonder if there is a more direct way. Thanks, Bill William A. Prothero, Ph.D. University of California, Santa Barbara Dept. of Earth Sciences (Emeritus) Santa Barbara, CA. 93105 http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
Richmond, As a sometimes teacher myself, I really appreciate your compulsion to foster initiative. How about showing your champion how to define constants? Then she could go ahead and use eleven and twelve and so on... - Charles On 03 Jul 2014, at 4:43 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: That has never, ever struck me as a satisfactory answer to a child who is not some moronic ant in a grinding-mill of a school -- Charles E. Buchwald CEO/Director General Museografica Digital http://digital.museografica.com LC Developer Tools: http://buchwald.ca/developer-tools/ Email Notice: http://wp.me/P3aT4d-33 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?
On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:45 AM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: repeat forever with messages ??? repeat with messages ??? I think we've been through this before. The compiler doesn't mind, but the with messages part is not legal syntax and does nothing. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
If you are strict about how they are written, then you don't need many constants and keywords. Just add: eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty thirty forty fifty sixty seventy eighty ninety hundred thousand million billion These 21 additional words would allow numbers up to 999 billion if you construct your phrases like this: one hundred thousand two hundred fourteen or twenty million four hundred twenty two thousand three hundred forty six If you add the th suffix to the first nine, then you can include stuff like one hundred thousand two hundred fourteenth - Charles On 03 Jul 2014, at 5:46 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: What would seem a reasonable upper limit to English-like spelled numbers? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald CEO/Director General Museografica Digital http://digital.museografica.com LC Developer Tools: http://buchwald.ca/developer-tools/ Email Notice: http://wp.me/P3aT4d-33 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca wrote: These 21 additional words would allow numbers up to 999 billion if you construct your phrases like this: one hundred thousand two hundred fourteen or twenty million four hundred twenty two thousand three hundred forty six If you add the th suffix to the first nine, then you can include stuff like one hundred thousand two hundred fourteenth And of course a different set of constants for French, German, etc. Can a multi-dimensional constant be created? *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
In the Electronic Maintenance shop at Capitol Records, one guy had two stock answers that he snarkily claimed would answer all questions. First answer: three. Second answer: it can't be done. So my answer is, of course, three. 8-) .Jerry On Jul 3, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote: No idea. Just take a pencil, start writing and see when you think you've had enough. On 7/4/2014 00:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: What would seem a reasonable upper limit to English-like spelled numbers? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT : Advice on SQL database design
On 01/07/2014 13:17, Robert Brenstein wrote: You will get lots of advice, I am sure. Database design is a science and an art. What helps often is to identify data along the lines of I did indeed get lots of good advice - many thanks to all who replied. So many new things to read about I'm particularly interested in the idea of NoSQL databases - they seem too good to be true :-) It's not clear whether any of them can be deployed without (at least) a VPS, so I'll stick to basics for now and understand what can be done with SQL first, before exploring beyond that. Thanks again for the advice, reading lists, etc. -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
31 - the maximum number of days in month. On Jul 3, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: What would seem a reasonable upper limit to English-like spelled numbers? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT : Advice on SQL database design
Alex- Thursday, July 3, 2014, 5:06:16 PM, you wrote: I'm particularly interested in the idea of NoSQL databases - they seem too good to be true :-) Well, be careful with nosql databases. In many cases they are indeed too good to be true. You need to be very specific with your needs. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
Jerry- Thursday, July 3, 2014, 4:50:45 PM, you wrote: So my answer is, of course, three. 8-) Three is also the largest number crows can distinguish, so that makes sense. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Ordinal numbers
On Jul 3, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Jerry- Thursday, July 3, 2014, 4:50:45 PM, you wrote: So my answer is, of course, three. 8-) Three is also the largest number crows can distinguish, so that makes sense. Ah! Oh, wait... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
