Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Alex Tweedly
Not quite the test I was suggesting  the dropbox url uses https: and 
for your own url you used http:


It would be worth getting another url using https: to see if the server 
has a problem with the secure http - or whether it is specific to 
dropbox; even just https://google.com should do.  It would be even 
better if you have a zip file somewhere behind a secure url - but I 
can't think of one you could try.


-- Alex.


On 18/12/2014 05:11, Scott Rossi wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.  Based on the test below, there does seem to be a 
problem with accessing DropBox.

New script:

put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into file1
put the length of file1 into L1
put url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/test-image.zip; into file2
put the length of file2 into L2
put dropbox   L1  br  generic   L2

The result I get here still shows the DropBox file to have a length of 0, yet 
the test file downloads as expected when accessed via a browser.

dropbox 0
generic 483575

Any other suggestions?

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

On Dec 17, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:


Scott,

you could try accessing some (any) other https: url to see if that works from 
your server.

Might help you narrow down what to look at next :-)
Sorry I can't come up with any better help.
-- Alex.

On 17/12/2014 22:17, Scott Rossi wrote:

Hi Simon:

Well, I'm glad it works somewhere, but since it's not likely that I'll be using 
your LC server, this doesn't help me much.

I wonder if maybe the edition makes a difference.  Are you using the Commercial 
or Community edition?

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media UX/UI Design


On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co wrote:

Hi Scott

Tried your script on my server - seems to work perfectly.

Outputs: 483575

Kind Regards
Simon

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
wrote:

Hi List:

I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.

With the following script:

put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
theFile
put the length of theFile


On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.

On LC Server I get a value of 0.

What am I missing here?  Is this perhaps some kind of cross-domain
limitation?  Any way to make this work?

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design



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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks for the response Alex.

I don’t believe the secure URL is the issue, because the file can be retrieved 
from a browser using both the secure and standard forms, but both forms return 
0 in the LC server test script.

In fact, I usually use the standard form in all my download URLs to avoid 
potential problems like you suggest.  But since DropBox uses a secure URL by 
default, I used that in the test code.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:

 Not quite the test I was suggesting  the dropbox url uses https: and for 
 your own url you used http:
 
 It would be worth getting another url using https: to see if the server has a 
 problem with the secure http - or whether it is specific to dropbox; even 
 just https://google.com should do.  It would be even better if you have a zip 
 file somewhere behind a secure url - but I can't think of one you could try.
 
 -- Alex.
 
 
 On 18/12/2014 05:11, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestion.  Based on the test below, there does seem to be a 
 problem with accessing DropBox.
 
 New script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into file1
 put the length of file1 into L1
 put url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/test-image.zip; into file2
 put the length of file2 into L2
 put dropbox   L1  br  generic   L2
 
 The result I get here still shows the DropBox file to have a length of 0, 
 yet the test file downloads as expected when accessed via a browser.
 
 dropbox 0
 generic 483575
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 On Dec 17, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:
 
 Scott,
 
 you could try accessing some (any) other https: url to see if that works 
 from your server.
 
 Might help you narrow down what to look at next :-)
 Sorry I can't come up with any better help.
 -- Alex.
 
 On 17/12/2014 22:17, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Hi Simon:
 
 Well, I'm glad it works somewhere, but since it's not likely that I'll be 
 using your LC server, this doesn't help me much.
 
 I wonder if maybe the edition makes a difference.  Are you using the 
 Commercial or Community edition?
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media UX/UI Design
 
 On Dec 17, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co wrote:
 
 Hi Scott
 
 Tried your script on my server - seems to work perfectly.
 
 Outputs: 483575
 
 Kind Regards
 Simon
 
 On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com
 wrote:
 Hi List:
 
 I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
 DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
 seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.
 
 With the following script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
 theFile
put the length of theFile
 
 
 On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.
 
 On LC Server I get a value of 0.
 
 What am I missing here?  Is this perhaps some kind of cross-domain
 limitation?  Any way to make this work?
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 
 
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Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Graham Samuel
This is not exactly about LiveCode but it's not OT either, I think. I am 
seeking an economical way of having an installer (or two installers) for a 
cross-platform LiveCode standalone - desktop, Windows and Mac. I have tried to 
use Mark Schonewille's LC-oriented solution but I can't make it work. So far my 
researches (Google mostly) seem to point to very expensive solutions intended 
for high volume sales. As I have no idea what sales volume to expect (it will 
be in the range zero to 1000!), this type of solution is not for me.

What do other people do? Can one get away without an installer as long as one 
has gone through the very daunting (to me) code-signing process on the two 
platforms? This didn't used to matter, either on Windows or Mac, and I have 
products out there where the installation 'just works', but increasingly it 
seems that the OSs are expecting a proper installing process.

I see that this may be quite a big subject, but I am too ignorant to be sure. 
Can anyone point me to a sensible discussion on this topic, hopefully with 
recommendations as to the way to go?

TIA

Graham
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Test please ignore

2014-12-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
 

 

 

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AW: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Graham,

I am codesigning too on both platforms and using sucessfully innosetup on
Windows and Marks installer maker on Mac.

What are your problems with installer maker?

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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Graham,

for Windows i am using Monte´s InstallGadget which is based on innosetup, but 
much easier to use.
On Mac this tool just creates a dmg.

 http://goulding.ws/installgadget/


Is there really a need for an installer on Mac? Most of the mac software is 
delivered as dmg. The user just has to drag the app bundle or app folder to the 
Application folder.

If you want to graphically pimp your dmg then i would try DropDMG. Very easy to 
use and very good results.
http://c-command.com/dropdmg/

Regards,

Matthias





 Am 18.12.2014 um 12:03 schrieb Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com:
 
 This is not exactly about LiveCode but it's not OT either, I think. I am 
 seeking an economical way of having an installer (or two installers) for a 
 cross-platform LiveCode standalone - desktop, Windows and Mac. I have tried 
 to use Mark Schonewille's LC-oriented solution but I can't make it work. So 
 far my researches (Google mostly) seem to point to very expensive solutions 
 intended for high volume sales. As I have no idea what sales volume to expect 
 (it will be in the range zero to 1000!), this type of solution is not for me.
 
 What do other people do? Can one get away without an installer as long as one 
 has gone through the very daunting (to me) code-signing process on the two 
 platforms? This didn't used to matter, either on Windows or Mac, and I have 
 products out there where the installation 'just works', but increasingly it 
 seems that the OSs are expecting a proper installing process.
 
 I see that this may be quite a big subject, but I am too ignorant to be sure. 
 Can anyone point me to a sensible discussion on this topic, hopefully with 
 recommendations as to the way to go?
 
 TIA
 
 Graham
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Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Ray
When I do the following on my Mac OSX 10.7.1 running Quicktime 7.7.1 I 
hear the audio but I can't see the video.


I drag a player object to a new main stack and change the source from 
the Livecode's Sample.mov file to Apple's Sample_iPod.m4v movie or any 
other .m4v file.  Playing it gives me audio but no video.


If I choose the edit tool in Livecode while the movie is play suddenly 
video plays.  Return to Livecode's browse tool and video stops while 
audio continues.


This is no problem at all in Livecode 6.5.2 using the same platform, 
same system and same Quicktime version.  It's also no problem on my 
Windows 8.1 system in either version of Livecode.


Is this really a bug or am I missing something?  If it's a bug does 
anybody know if it's been reported?


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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Ray,

 Am 18.12.2014 um 15:05 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 When I do the following on my Mac OSX 10.7.1 running Quicktime 7.7.1 I hear 
 the audio but I can't see the video.
 I drag a player object to a new main stack and change the source from the 
 Livecode's Sample.mov file to Apple's Sample_iPod.m4v movie or any other .m4v 
 file.  Playing it gives me audio but no video.
 If I choose the edit tool in Livecode while the movie is play suddenly video 
 plays.  Return to Livecode's browse tool and video stops while audio 
 continues.
 This is no problem at all in Livecode 6.5.2 using the same platform, same 
 system and same Quicktime version.  It's also no problem on my Windows 8.1 
 system in either version of Livecode.
 Is this really a bug or am I missing something?  If it's a bug does anybody 
 know if it's been reported?

quick guess: In Livecode 7 the dontuseqt property is set to TRUE by default, 
since it uses the new AVFoundation on the Mac to display media in a player 
object.

Try to set this property to FALSE on preopenstack and see if that works.

I hate these dont_XYZ properties, they are just too mentally challenging! :-D


Best

Klaus

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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Ray
Klaus many thanks!  Where did you even hear about such a property? I'd 
like to start doing whatever it is you're doing when new versions come 
out so I stay abreast of these things.


On 12/18/2014 11:09 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Ray,


Am 18.12.2014 um 15:05 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:

When I do the following on my Mac OSX 10.7.1 running Quicktime 7.7.1 I hear the 
audio but I can't see the video.
I drag a player object to a new main stack and change the source from the 
Livecode's Sample.mov file to Apple's Sample_iPod.m4v movie or any other .m4v 
file.  Playing it gives me audio but no video.
If I choose the edit tool in Livecode while the movie is play suddenly video 
plays.  Return to Livecode's browse tool and video stops while audio continues.
This is no problem at all in Livecode 6.5.2 using the same platform, same 
system and same Quicktime version.  It's also no problem on my Windows 8.1 
system in either version of Livecode.
Is this really a bug or am I missing something?  If it's a bug does anybody 
know if it's been reported?

quick guess: In Livecode 7 the dontuseqt property is set to TRUE by default,
since it uses the new AVFoundation on the Mac to display media in a player 
object.

Try to set this property to FALSE on preopenstack and see if that works.

I hate these dont_XYZ properties, they are just too mentally challenging! :-D


Best

Klaus

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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Ray,

 Am 18.12.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 Klaus many thanks!  Where did you even hear about such a property? I'd like 
 to start doing whatever it is you're doing when new versions come out so I 
 stay abreast of these things.

That's pretty easy, just learn the Release Notes by heart! :-D

 On 12/18/2014 11:09 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:
 Hi Ray,
 
 Am 18.12.2014 um 15:05 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 When I do the following on my Mac OSX 10.7.1 running Quicktime 7.7.1 I hear 
 the audio but I can't see the video.
 I drag a player object to a new main stack and change the source from the 
 Livecode's Sample.mov file to Apple's Sample_iPod.m4v movie or any other 
 .m4v file.  Playing it gives me audio but no video.
 If I choose the edit tool in Livecode while the movie is play suddenly 
 video plays.  Return to Livecode's browse tool and video stops while audio 
 continues.
 This is no problem at all in Livecode 6.5.2 using the same platform, same 
 system and same Quicktime version.  It's also no problem on my Windows 8.1 
 system in either version of Livecode.
 Is this really a bug or am I missing something?  If it's a bug does anybody 
 know if it's been reported?
 quick guess: In Livecode 7 the dontuseqt property is set to TRUE by 
 default,
 since it uses the new AVFoundation on the Mac to display media in a player 
 object.
 
 Try to set this property to FALSE on preopenstack and see if that works.
 
 I hate these dont_XYZ properties, they are just too mentally challenging! 
 :-D

Best

Klaus

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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Ray

Gotcha - that short, simple doc that comes with the release :)

I'll let you know how it goes when I get my Mac cranked up and try this 
suggestion.


On 12/18/2014 11:14 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Ray,


Am 18.12.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:

Klaus many thanks!  Where did you even hear about such a property? I'd like to 
start doing whatever it is you're doing when new versions come out so I stay 
abreast of these things.

That's pretty easy, just learn the Release Notes by heart! :-D


On 12/18/2014 11:09 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Ray,


Am 18.12.2014 um 15:05 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:

When I do the following on my Mac OSX 10.7.1 running Quicktime 7.7.1 I hear the 
audio but I can't see the video.
I drag a player object to a new main stack and change the source from the 
Livecode's Sample.mov file to Apple's Sample_iPod.m4v movie or any other .m4v 
file.  Playing it gives me audio but no video.
If I choose the edit tool in Livecode while the movie is play suddenly video 
plays.  Return to Livecode's browse tool and video stops while audio continues.
This is no problem at all in Livecode 6.5.2 using the same platform, same 
system and same Quicktime version.  It's also no problem on my Windows 8.1 
system in either version of Livecode.
Is this really a bug or am I missing something?  If it's a bug does anybody 
know if it's been reported?

quick guess: In Livecode 7 the dontuseqt property is set to TRUE by default,
since it uses the new AVFoundation on the Mac to display media in a player 
object.

Try to set this property to FALSE on preopenstack and see if that works.

I hate these dont_XYZ properties, they are just too mentally challenging! :-D

Best

Klaus

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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Ray,

 Am 18.12.2014 um 15:16 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
 
 Gotcha - that short, simple doc that comes with the release :)

yep, that's quite enlightening :-D

 I'll let you know how it goes when I get my Mac cranked up and try this 
 suggestion.

OK, good luck!

 On 12/18/2014 11:14 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:
 Hi Ray,
 
 Am 18.12.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
 Klaus many thanks!  Where did you even hear about such a property? I'd like 
 to start doing whatever it is you're doing when new versions come out so I 
 stay abreast of these things.
 That's pretty easy, just learn the Release Notes by heart! :-D

Best

Klaus

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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Robert Brenstein

On 18.12.2014 at 13:09 Uhr +0100 Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D apparently wrote:


Is there really a need for an installer on Mac? Most of the mac 
software is delivered as dmg. The user just has to drag the app 
bundle or app folder to the Application folder.


If you want to graphically pimp your dmg then i would try DropDMG. 
Very easy to use and very good results.

http://c-command.com/dropdmg/



On the Mac, the installer is really needed only if one has to install 
services, system resources or such. Normal standalone apps can and 
normally should be distributed as dmg's.


RObert

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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Graham Samuel
Thanks Matthias and Tiemo for good advice. I have had a look at DropDMG which 
looks very suitable for making a good-looking Mac version as suggested. Again, 
I’m also looking at Monte’s InstallGadget which looks very promising.

In answer to Tiemo’s query

 What are your problems with installer maker?

I had some issues relating to the Windows side of things, of which the killer 
was an error (141,546,30) which relates to some decompression issue. As I 
wasn’t using the Compression option in the installer I found this puzzling but 
so far have not found an explanation. There was another problem with the 
license document, where I couldn’t get the program to accept my version rather 
than the default stub. All this happened nearly two months ago, and I may have 
forgotten some of the details, but that’s an outline.

Anyway thanks again. I must start to bite the codesigning bullet (groan).

Graham

 On 18 Dec 2014, at 12:09, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D 
 matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote:
 
 Graham,
 
 for Windows i am using Monte´s InstallGadget which is based on innosetup, but 
 much easier to use.
 On Mac this tool just creates a dmg.
 
 http://goulding.ws/installgadget/
 
 
 Is there really a need for an installer on Mac? Most of the mac software is 
 delivered as dmg. The user just has to drag the app bundle or app folder to 
 the Application folder.
 
 If you want to graphically pimp your dmg then i would try DropDMG. Very easy 
 to use and very good results.
 http://c-command.com/dropdmg/
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 
 
 
 
 Am 18.12.2014 um 12:03 schrieb Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com:
 
 This is not exactly about LiveCode but it's not OT either, I think. I am 
 seeking an economical way of having an installer (or two installers) for a 
 cross-platform LiveCode standalone - desktop, Windows and Mac. I have tried 
 to use Mark Schonewille's LC-oriented solution but I can't make it work. So 
 far my researches (Google mostly) seem to point to very expensive solutions 
 intended for high volume sales. As I have no idea what sales volume to 
 expect (it will be in the range zero to 1000!), this type of solution is not 
 for me.
 
 What do other people do? Can one get away without an installer as long as 
 one has gone through the very daunting (to me) code-signing process on the 
 two platforms? This didn't used to matter, either on Windows or Mac, and I 
 have products out there where the installation 'just works', but 
 increasingly it seems that the OSs are expecting a proper installing process.
 
 I see that this may be quite a big subject, but I am too ignorant to be 
 sure. Can anyone point me to a sensible discussion on this topic, hopefully 
 with recommendations as to the way to go?
 
 TIA
 
 Graham
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LC + CGI server + Yosemite

2014-12-18 Thread Richard Miller
I am upgrading my old Mac Mini server (10.4) to a new Yosemite Mini. I 
was using an old RunRev engine to handle cgi processing. What would be 
the recommended LC engine for Yosemite?


Thanks,
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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Ray
Klaus - I tried setting the dontUseQt to true but had no luck.  Just 
thought you might like to know.  Thanks for the suggestion.  It's still 
good to know this global exists.  I've filed it as a bug report.


On 12/18/2014 11:30 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Ray,


Am 18.12.2014 um 15:16 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:

Gotcha - that short, simple doc that comes with the release :)

yep, that's quite enlightening :-D


I'll let you know how it goes when I get my Mac cranked up and try this 
suggestion.

OK, good luck!


On 12/18/2014 11:14 AM, Klaus major-k wrote:

Hi Ray,


Am 18.12.2014 um 15:12 schrieb Ray r...@linkit.com:
Klaus many thanks!  Where did you even hear about such a property? I'd like to 
start doing whatever it is you're doing when new versions come out so I stay 
abreast of these things.

That's pretty easy, just learn the Release Notes by heart! :-D

Best

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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Hi List:

I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.

With the following script:

put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
theFile 
put the length of theFile


On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.

On LC Server I get a value of 0.


I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue with 
AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public folder. 
AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method where you 
can share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do it if the 
file was in my grandfathered Public folder.


DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't already 
have one but they hide the information pretty well on their site. If you 
think this may be related to your problem and you don't yet have a 
Public folder, I can try to find the link for you. Once my customers 
created a Public folder and put the files in there, AirLaunch started 
working again.


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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/18/2014, 10:33 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:

I must start to bite the codesigning bullet (groan).


There are two utilities to help with that. For Windows, we use a 
certificate purchased from ksoftware.net 
http://certhelp.ksoftware.net/support/home, and they have a utility 
that codesigns the app. I don't know if their app works with certs from 
other places, we just went with theirs.


For Mac we use App Wrapper from Ohanaware 
http://www.ohanaware.com/appwrapper/


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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks Jacque.

The frustrating thing is this all of this used to work without any issue.  I 
don’t know if the problem is because of something DropBox changed, a server 
update by my web host (DreamHost), or my update to the 64 bit version of LC 
server.

Simon Smith says he can access the test file from his pre 6.7 version of LC 
server, so the problem would seem to be my host or LC 6.7.  Even then, 
accessing the file works fine on the 6.7 desktop, so I’m at a loss.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Hi List:
 
 I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
 DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
 seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.
 
 With the following script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
 theFile  
  put the length of theFile
 
 
 On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.
 
 On LC Server I get a value of 0.
 
 I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue with 
 AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public folder. 
 AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method where you can 
 share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do it if the file was in 
 my grandfathered Public folder.
 
 DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't already have 
 one but they hide the information pretty well on their site. If you think 
 this may be related to your problem and you don't yet have a Public folder, I 
 can try to find the link for you. Once my customers created a Public folder 
 and put the files in there, AirLaunch started working again.
 
 -- 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
 
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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/18/2014, 11:57 AM, Ray wrote:

Klaus - I tried setting the dontUseQt to true but had no luck.  Just
thought you might like to know.  Thanks for the suggestion.  It's still
good to know this global exists.  I've filed it as a bug report.


It is set to true by default now, you want to set it to *false*. That 
allows QT to run: dontUseQT = false means *do* use QT.


I already submitted a bug report about the change in the QT default 
settings, and it was closed as not a bug because Apple has deprecated 
QT. But if changing the dontUseQT to false still doesn't work, then your 
bug report is accurate.


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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread Marty Knapp
I'm using Inno Setup on Windows. It's free and customizable. When I get 
stumped on configuring it, there seems to be a lot of info out there by 
doing a quick Google search. I also use the KSoft certificates, which 
seem to be reasonably priced. The process of getting your certificate 
can be a few days as they want to make sure you're legit. One thing they 
wanted was my phone number listed with one of the big online 
directories. I did that then it took a while before it would show up in 
a search. Then they call you at that number as part of the process. If 
your phone is already published somewhere you may be OK. Mine wasn't.


KSoft has a signing app too that works great and the whole process can 
be configured in Inno Setup if you're using that. On Mac I've been using 
App Wrapper. Great app, great support. Sometimes I make my own 
installers for Mac just using a Livecode app with my app zipped and 
stored in a custom property.


One thing I have run into are people who've switched from PC to Mac. 
They don't always get disk images and will run the app off the disk 
image. Then think the app got deleted when the disk image is dismounted. 
I finally started putting a check in the startup routine to see where 
the app is running from and then alerting the user that it isn't 
installed correctly if it's from the disk image.


Marty Knapp

On 12/18/2014, 10:33 AM, Graham Samuel wrote:

I must start to bite the codesigning bullet (groan).


There are two utilities to help with that. For Windows, we use a 
certificate purchased from ksoftware.net 
http://certhelp.ksoftware.net/support/home, and they have a utility 
that codesigns the app. I don't know if their app works with certs 
from other places, we just went with theirs.


For Mac we use App Wrapper from Ohanaware 
http://www.ohanaware.com/appwrapper/


Both of these are one-click solutions.




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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Ray
Thanks Jackie - I believe the bug report is accurate.  I've tried 
setting the dontUseQt all three ways (and that's pretty good for a boolean!)


On 12/18/2014 3:46 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 12/18/2014, 11:57 AM, Ray wrote:

Klaus - I tried setting the dontUseQt to true but had no luck.  Just
thought you might like to know.  Thanks for the suggestion. It's still
good to know this global exists.  I've filed it as a bug report.


It is set to true by default now, you want to set it to *false*. That 
allows QT to run: dontUseQT = false means *do* use QT.


I already submitted a bug report about the change in the QT default 
settings, and it was closed as not a bug because Apple has deprecated 
QT. But if changing the dontUseQT to false still doesn't work, then 
your bug report is accurate.





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Create graphic

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Haworth
I have a button whose script creates a graphic.  When I click the button,
the tool changes from the browse tool to the pointer tool as soon as the
create graphic command is executed.

Not a big deal as I can just set the tool back to the pointer tool after
the create graphic command but that shouldn't happen, should it?

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RE: Create graphic

2014-12-18 Thread John Dixon
I don't see this...
Well, not using the following script :-

on mouseUp
   set the width of the templateGraphic to 200
   set the height of the templateGraphic to 200
   set the opaque of the templateGraphic to true
   set the loc of the templateGraphic to the loc of this card
   set the backgroundcolor of the templateGraphic to 255,0,0
   set the name of the templateGraphic to Boo
   create graphic
end mouseUp

Dixie

 From: p...@lcsql.com
 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:47:22 -0800
 Subject: Create graphic
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 
 I have a button whose script creates a graphic.  When I click the button,
 the tool changes from the browse tool to the pointer tool as soon as the
 create graphic command is executed.
 
 Not a big deal as I can just set the tool back to the pointer tool after
 the create graphic command but that shouldn't happen, should it?
 
 Pete
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Re: Create graphic

2014-12-18 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi John,
Thanks for checking.  I think I found the problem - a rogue front script
that was capturing the newGraphic event.

Pete
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:58 AM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 I don't see this...
 Well, not using the following script :-

 on mouseUp
set the width of the templateGraphic to 200
set the height of the templateGraphic to 200
set the opaque of the templateGraphic to true
set the loc of the templateGraphic to the loc of this card
set the backgroundcolor of the templateGraphic to 255,0,0
set the name of the templateGraphic to Boo
create graphic
 end mouseUp

 Dixie

  From: p...@lcsql.com
  Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:47:22 -0800
  Subject: Create graphic
  To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 
  I have a button whose script creates a graphic.  When I click the button,
  the tool changes from the browse tool to the pointer tool as soon as the
  create graphic command is executed.
 
  Not a big deal as I can just set the tool back to the pointer tool after
  the create graphic command but that shouldn't happen, should it?
 
  Pete
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Re: Create graphic

2014-12-18 Thread dunbarx
Peter.


In v.6.7 on Mavericks, the tools sticks. What is your set-up?


Craig



-Original Message-
From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 18, 2014 2:48 pm
Subject: Create graphic


I have a button whose script creates a graphic.  When I click the button,
the tool changes from the browse tool to the pointer tool as soon as the
create graphic command is executed.

Not a big deal as I can just set the tool back to the pointer tool after
the create graphic command but that shouldn't happen, should it?

Pete
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plugin stack automatically saving in new file format

2014-12-18 Thread Chris Sheffield
I have a custom plugin stack that I use to quickly open frequently used stacks. 
It has a “save this stack” command in its closeStack handler. If I’m working in 
LC 7.0+ the stack is saving with the new file format, and therefore won’t open 
in pre-7.0 versions of LiveCode. I though once a stack was saved in a legacy 
format, it would stay in that format. Is that not the case? Is there any way to 
prevent the file format change when saving a stack?

Thanks,
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Re: plugin stack automatically saving in new file format

2014-12-18 Thread Mike Bonner
There is a preference that says to preserve stack file format, but i'm not
sure if it applies when a stack is saving itself. (seems like it should,
but hey, you never know).  The best way to avoid this is to set the
stackfileversion to what you want, right before the save.  Theres an
example of this in the dictionary entry.  Basically, it saves the current
stackfileversion to a variable, sets the stackfileversion to the version
you wish to save as, saves the stack, then resets the stackfileversion.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Chris Sheffield cs_livec...@icloud.com
wrote:

 I have a custom plugin stack that I use to quickly open frequently used
 stacks. It has a “save this stack” command in its closeStack handler. If
 I’m working in LC 7.0+ the stack is saving with the new file format, and
 therefore won’t open in pre-7.0 versions of LiveCode. I though once a stack
 was saved in a legacy format, it would stay in that format. Is that not the
 case? Is there any way to prevent the file format change when saving a
 stack?

 Thanks,
 Chris


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Re: plugin stack automatically saving in new file format

2014-12-18 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Chris,

 Am 18.12.2014 um 21:30 schrieb Chris Sheffield cs_livec...@icloud.com:
 
 I have a custom plugin stack that I use to quickly open frequently used 
 stacks. It has a “save this stack” command in its closeStack handler. If I’m 
 working in LC 7.0+ the stack is saving with the new file format, and 
 therefore won’t open in pre-7.0 versions of LiveCode. I though once a stack 
 was saved in a legacy format, it would stay in that format. Is that not the 
 case? Is there any way to prevent the file format change when saving a stack?

I think the stackfileversion global property will help here!

Do something like this:
...
## Save current stackfileversion value:
put the stackfileversion into tOldSFV

## See dictionary for other possible values
set the stackfileversion to 5.5
save this stack

## Restore old value:
set the stackfileversion to tOldSFV
...

 Thanks,
 Chris

Best

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Re: plugin stack automatically saving in new file format

2014-12-18 Thread Chris Sheffield
Excellent. Thank you, and thanks to Mike as well. I’ll implement that in my 
code.

 On Dec 18, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 Am 18.12.2014 um 21:30 schrieb Chris Sheffield cs_livec...@icloud.com:
 
 I have a custom plugin stack that I use to quickly open frequently used 
 stacks. It has a “save this stack” command in its closeStack handler. If I’m 
 working in LC 7.0+ the stack is saving with the new file format, and 
 therefore won’t open in pre-7.0 versions of LiveCode. I though once a stack 
 was saved in a legacy format, it would stay in that format. Is that not the 
 case? Is there any way to prevent the file format change when saving a stack?
 
 I think the stackfileversion global property will help here!
 
 Do something like this:
 ...
 ## Save current stackfileversion value:
 put the stackfileversion into tOldSFV
 
 ## See dictionary for other possible values
 set the stackfileversion to 5.5
 save this stack
 
 ## Restore old value:
 set the stackfileversion to tOldSFV
 ...
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 
 Best
 
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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread Jim Lambert
Ray wrote:
 
 I've tried setting the dontUseQt all three ways (and that's pretty good for a 
 boolean!)

Three-way booleans are only available in LiveCode. It’s that powerful! ;)

Jim Lambert

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Re: Installer advice needed

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/18/2014, 12:48 PM, Marty Knapp wrote:

One thing I have run into are people who've switched from PC to Mac.
They don't always get disk images and will run the app off the disk
image.


It works the other way too. Windows users don't always get zip files, 
especially because Windows shows the contents of the zip in a window but 
doesn't extract the items (much like a dmg) and so they run the app from 
inside the zip file. Then it breaks.


I hadn't thought to check the location of the app on disk, that's a good 
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Re: Livecode 7.0 Can't Play Video

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/18/2014, 1:45 PM, Ray wrote:

I've tried setting the dontUseQt all three ways (and that's pretty good
for a boolean!)


I'm very impressed. :)

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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Have you tried checking the result all over the place? There should be 
some info in there. Use a put statement to output the result into the 
browser window:


   if the result is not empty then put the result

Also somewhere early in the sequence, set the script to report any other 
errors. You can do that with:


  set the errorMode to inline

Then if there are actual errors happening, they'll show up in the 
browser too.


If you aren't using a browser to trigger the server script, the output 
will show up wherever you're calling the script from, like the message 
box or whatever.



On 12/18/2014, 12:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Thanks Jacque.

The frustrating thing is this all of this used to work without any issue.  I 
don’t know if the problem is because of something DropBox changed, a server 
update by my web host (DreamHost), or my update to the 64 bit version of LC 
server.

Simon Smith says he can access the test file from his pre 6.7 version of LC 
server, so the problem would seem to be my host or LC 6.7.  Even then, 
accessing the file works fine on the 6.7 desktop, so I’m at a loss.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:


On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Hi List:

I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.

With the following script:

put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
theFile 
put the length of theFile


On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.

On LC Server I get a value of 0.


I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue with 
AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public folder. 
AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method where you can 
share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do it if the file was in 
my grandfathered Public folder.

DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't already have 
one but they hide the information pretty well on their site. If you think this 
may be related to your problem and you don't yet have a Public folder, I can 
try to find the link for you. Once my customers created a Public folder and put 
the files in there, AirLaunch started working again.

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Offline usage of Linux LC-Python browser

2014-12-18 Thread Bob Warren
A number of you have recently downloaded the Linux LC-Python Browser 
demo available at:


http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/extensions/

(If you have visited this page recently, and you now see no changes - 
i.e. the old version is still in the browser cache - then please refresh 
the page.)


The version you downloaded demonstrates on-line usage by navigating to a 
web page on the Internet. However, perhaps an even more common usage of 
an embedded browser is to display OFF-line web pages that are not on the 
Internet, e.g. when building a Help data base. Hence, there is now a 
second demo for download on the extensions page which demonstrates such 
off-line usage.


The little fly in the ointment solved by the new demo is that to call an 
off-line web page in Python, you have to supply an absolute (complete) 
URL path in the script, even when the web page is in the same folder as 
the script (as in the demo), e.g:


view.open(file:///home/bob/Desktop/_Proj_2014_V/Demos and 
Experiments/Python Browser Demo OFFLINE ONLY/demo/webpage.htm)


Statements like this do NOT work:

view.open(webpage.htm)
view.open(file://webpage.htm)
view.open(file:///webpage.htm)

The additional off-line demo therefore obtains the current defaultFolder 
(the program/webpage folder) and updates each Python script with it 
before it is fired.




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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Thanks for this suggestion, which I should have tried. There is indeed an error 
that occurs immediately after getting the file:
error Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl

I assume the libcurl library is a hosting thing, and not an LC server thing.  I 
did a little reading and from what I can tell libcurl is capable of supporting 
HTTPS, so now I’m trying to figure out if I need to somehow enable this on my 
(shared) DreamHost server?

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:07 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Have you tried checking the result all over the place? There should be some 
 info in there. Use a put statement to output the result into the browser 
 window:
 
   if the result is not empty then put the result
 
 Also somewhere early in the sequence, set the script to report any other 
 errors. You can do that with:
 
  set the errorMode to inline
 
 Then if there are actual errors happening, they'll show up in the browser too.
 
 If you aren't using a browser to trigger the server script, the output will 
 show up wherever you're calling the script from, like the message box or 
 whatever.
 
 
 On 12/18/2014, 12:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Thanks Jacque.
 
 The frustrating thing is this all of this used to work without any issue.  I 
 don’t know if the problem is because of something DropBox changed, a server 
 update by my web host (DreamHost), or my update to the 64 bit version of LC 
 server.
 
 Simon Smith says he can access the test file from his pre 6.7 version of LC 
 server, so the problem would seem to be my host or LC 6.7.  Even then, 
 accessing the file works fine on the 6.7 desktop, so I’m at a loss.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
 wrote:
 
 On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Hi List:
 
 I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files from
 DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost), it now
 seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.
 
 With the following script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip; into
 theFile
put the length of theFile
 
 
 On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.
 
 On LC Server I get a value of 0.
 
 I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue with 
 AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public folder. 
 AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method where you can 
 share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do it if the file was 
 in my grandfathered Public folder.
 
 DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't already 
 have one but they hide the information pretty well on their site. If you 
 think this may be related to your problem and you don't yet have a Public 
 folder, I can try to find the link for you. Once my customers created a 
 Public folder and put the files in there, AirLaunch started working again.
 
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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Yay, progress. Sounds like a note to Dreamhost would fix it, they should be 
able to set it up for you. I'm pretty sure it's a server server thing. 

On December 18, 2014 5:49:20 PM CST, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
Thanks for this suggestion, which I should have tried. There is indeed
an error that occurs immediately after getting the file:
error Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl

I assume the libcurl library is a hosting thing, and not an LC server
thing.  I did a little reading and from what I can tell libcurl is
capable of supporting HTTPS, so now I’m trying to figure out if I need
to somehow enable this on my (shared) DreamHost server?

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:07 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
wrote:

 Have you tried checking the result all over the place? There should
be some info in there. Use a put statement to output the result into
the browser window:
 
   if the result is not empty then put the result
 
 Also somewhere early in the sequence, set the script to report any
other errors. You can do that with:
 
  set the errorMode to inline
 
 Then if there are actual errors happening, they'll show up in the
browser too.
 
 If you aren't using a browser to trigger the server script, the
output will show up wherever you're calling the script from, like the
message box or whatever.
 
 
 On 12/18/2014, 12:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Thanks Jacque.
 
 The frustrating thing is this all of this used to work without any
issue.  I don’t know if the problem is because of something DropBox
changed, a server update by my web host (DreamHost), or my update to
the 64 bit version of LC server.
 
 Simon Smith says he can access the test file from his pre 6.7
version of LC server, so the problem would seem to be my host or LC
6.7.  Even then, accessing the file works fine on the 6.7 desktop, so
I’m at a loss.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, J. Landman Gay
jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Hi List:
 
 I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files
from
 DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost),
it now
 seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.
 
 With the following script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip;
into
 theFile   
   put the length of theFile
 
 
 On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.
 
 On LC Server I get a value of 0.
 
 I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue
with AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public
folder. AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method
where you can share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do
it if the file was in my grandfathered Public folder.
 
 DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't
already have one but they hide the information pretty well on their
site. If you think this may be related to your problem and you don't
yet have a Public folder, I can try to find the link for you. Once my
customers created a Public folder and put the files in there, AirLaunch
started working again.
 
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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Scott Rossi
Sadly, all the HTTPS/SSL stuff appears to be enabled (looking at phpinfo) and 
the chat support dude said “beyond our scope” so I’m not sure how to explain 
the problem to them, other than referring them to an output page.

This server stuff gets quite tiresome.

Regards,

Scott Rossi 
Creative Director 
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:34 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Yay, progress. Sounds like a note to Dreamhost would fix it, they should be 
 able to set it up for you. I'm pretty sure it's a server server thing. 
 
 On December 18, 2014 5:49:20 PM CST, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks for this suggestion, which I should have tried. There is indeed
 an error that occurs immediately after getting the file:
 error Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl
 
 I assume the libcurl library is a hosting thing, and not an LC server
 thing.  I did a little reading and from what I can tell libcurl is
 capable of supporting HTTPS, so now I’m trying to figure out if I need
 to somehow enable this on my (shared) DreamHost server?
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi 
 Creative Director 
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design 
 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 3:07 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 wrote:
 
 Have you tried checking the result all over the place? There should
 be some info in there. Use a put statement to output the result into
 the browser window:
 
  if the result is not empty then put the result
 
 Also somewhere early in the sequence, set the script to report any
 other errors. You can do that with:
 
 set the errorMode to inline
 
 Then if there are actual errors happening, they'll show up in the
 browser too.
 
 If you aren't using a browser to trigger the server script, the
 output will show up wherever you're calling the script from, like the
 message box or whatever.
 
 
 On 12/18/2014, 12:24 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Thanks Jacque.
 
 The frustrating thing is this all of this used to work without any
 issue.  I don’t know if the problem is because of something DropBox
 changed, a server update by my web host (DreamHost), or my update to
 the 64 bit version of LC server.
 
 Simon Smith says he can access the test file from his pre 6.7
 version of LC server, so the problem would seem to be my host or LC
 6.7.  Even then, accessing the file works fine on the 6.7 desktop, so
 I’m at a loss.
 
 Regards,
 
 Scott Rossi
 Creative Director
 Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, J. Landman Gay
 jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
 
 On 12/17/2014, 2:14 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:
 Hi List:
 
 I¹m wondering if anyone has been using LC Server to serve files
 from
 DropBox.  Since updating LC Server to 6.7 on my host (DreamHost),
 it now
 seems to be unable to retrieve files from DropBox.
 
 With the following script:
 
 put url https://dl.dropbox.com/s/6fpl18ihvt7ffbl/test-image.zip;
 into
 theFile  
  put the length of theFile
 
 
 On a desktop system, this works as expected in the message box.
 
 On LC Server I get a value of 0.
 
 I'm not sure if this is related or not, but I had a similar issue
 with AirLaunch when Dropbox eliminated their old-style default Public
 folder. AirLaunch could no longer retrieve files using the new method
 where you can share a link from anywhere in DB. But it could still do
 it if the file was in my grandfathered Public folder.
 
 DB allows you to create an old-style Public folder if you don't
 already have one but they hide the information pretty well on their
 site. If you think this may be related to your problem and you don't
 yet have a Public folder, I can try to find the link for you. Once my
 customers created a Public folder and put the files in there, AirLaunch
 started working again.
 
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Scaling images and printing...

2014-12-18 Thread Paul Dupuis
I have a problem with scaling images and printing.

I have the following portion of code where tObj is an image and tPrecent
is a number from 5 to 400. It's purpose is to scale an image to a %
scale factor the user entered and it does so.
 
put the fileName of tObj into tFile
set the filename of tObj to empty
set the fileName of tObj to tFile
set the alwaysbuffer of tObj to true
put the loc of tObj into tLoc
set the width of tObj to (the width of tObj * (tPercent/100))
set the height of tObj to (the height of tObj * (tPercent/100))
--set the imagedata of tObj to the imagedata of tObj -- to fix the size
for printing
set the loc of tObj to tLoc

If I then print the card with the image on it, the image is printed at
it's original size rather than the scaled size. If I added the commented
line set the imagedata of tObj to the imagedata of tObj back in to
fix the size of the image to the scaled size, card prints with the
image at the scaled size. Yea!

However, with the set the imagedata of tObj to the imagedata of tObj
line in the script, if the user resizes again, so the code above is
called with a different scaling factor, the image vanishes (or appears to).

The intent of the lines:
put the fileName of tObj into tFile
set the filename of tObj to empty
set the fileName of tObj to tFile

was to set the image back to its original size each time before scaling
so that the scaling would always be against the original image size (not
against it;s currently scaled size).

Is there a better way to allow users to rescale an image from it's
original size and still fix its size for printing?


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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay
Somebody here should know, we have some savvy server folks. 
Unfortunately I'm not one of them, but maybe someone will take 
pity...start sobbing really loud.


On 12/18/2014, 8:05 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Sadly, all the HTTPS/SSL stuff appears to be enabled (looking at phpinfo) and 
the chat support dude said “beyond our scope” so I’m not sure how to explain 
the problem to them, other than referring them to an output page.

This server stuff gets quite tiresome.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design

On Dec 18, 2014, at 5:34 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:


Yay, progress. Sounds like a note to Dreamhost would fix it, they should be 
able to set it up for you. I'm pretty sure it's a server server thing.

On December 18, 2014 5:49:20 PM CST, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:

Thanks for this suggestion, which I should have tried. There is indeed
an error that occurs immediately after getting the file:
error Protocol https not supported or disabled in libcurl

I assume the libcurl library is a hosting thing, and not an LC server
thing.  I did a little reading and from what I can tell libcurl is
capable of supporting HTTPS, so now I’m trying to figure out if I need
to somehow enable this on my (shared) DreamHost server?

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 12/18/2014, 8:05 PM, Scott Rossi wrote:

Sadly, all the HTTPS/SSL stuff appears to be enabled (looking at
phpinfo) and the chat support dude said “beyond our scope” so I’m not
sure how to explain the problem to them, other than referring them to
an output page.


Found this: http://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#curl_1_SSL_is_disabled_https

The copy of libCurl wasn't built with support for https. (That sounds 
kind of unlikely for a hosting company.)


But maybe it's something simpler:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6884669/curl-1-protocol-https-not-supported-or-disabled-in-libcurl

Which involves a spurious space or other typo in a URL.

A couple of other links mention having 2 copies of libCurl in the path, 
and the wrong one getting triggered.


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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Peter W A Wood
Scott and Jacque

I believe that LiveCodeServer includes a version of LibCurl and it looks likley 
to be the cause of the problem. I only have the latest RC version of LiveCode 
to hand so it may be worth trying my test script out of the version you are 
running.

I ran this script with LiveCodeServer:

#Start Code
#!livecode   

set the outputLineEndings to lf

put the Version  return

put http:  the number of words of URL http://bbc.co.uk;
put return 

put https:  the number of words of URL https://github.com;
put return
#End Code

and got this:

#Start Output
7.0.1-rc-4
http: 4407
https: 0
#End Output

I then ran the same code modified to run in the message box:

#Start Code
put the Version  return into tTemp

put http:  the number of words of URL http://bbc.co.uk; after tTemp
put return after tTemp

put https:  the number of words of URL https://github.com; after tTemp
put return after tTemp

put tTemp
#End Code

and got this:

#Start Output
7.0.1-rc-4
http: 4407
https: 1068
#End Output

If you can confirm this I will file a bug report.

Regards

Peter
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Re: LC Server Unable To Retrieve File From DropBox?

2014-12-18 Thread Peter W A Wood
I have submitted a bug report - Bug 14262 
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14262

Regards

Peter

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