Keynote
Hi, Does anyone know if where I can get hold of the Kevin's keynote. I missed it :) Regards, Marc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC 8.0
The new widgets are AWESOME. HOLY SMOKES... Great coding, team... wow -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)
Colin wrote: > It has been talked about a lot here. Just quit LiveCode and reopen it. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Just forcing the redraw (but adding/subtracting the paint tools) fixes it, no restart required. As for being talked about a lot, that's one downside with only getting the digest of the list. By the time you get it and reply there could be oodles of other replies you have yet to see as you have to wait for the next digest. James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)
It has been talked about a lot here. Just quit LiveCode and reopen it. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 10:21 PM, James Hale wrote: > > I was just going through the bug database to see if this had been reported > when I decided to uncheck the paint tools from the Tools menu. The Tools > palette redrew and no included most of the expected items. Reselecting the > show paint tools did just that. > Perhaps it just needs a kick to get it to redraw itself after it has been > populated with items? > > James > > BTW the data grid control is not available nor are some of the widgets the > extension manager thinks are there! > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
No tools on Tools Palette (was Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1)
I was just going through the bug database to see if this had been reported when I decided to uncheck the paint tools from the Tools menu. The Tools palette redrew and no included most of the expected items. Reselecting the show paint tools did just that. Perhaps it just needs a kick to get it to redraw itself after it has been populated with items? James BTW the data grid control is not available nor are some of the widgets the extension manager thinks are there! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Richmond- Thursday, March 12, 2015, 11:32:49 AM, you wrote: > . . . or, put another way: I'm going to have to spend all of next > weekend reinstalling my > Linux box with a 64 bit version and really wonder whether it is justified. Just do it. You'll thank yourself later. The 64-bit version of LC on linux is actually faster, for one thing. Do it in a vm if you don't want to resintall. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Datagrid Help
As Peter points out http://lessons.runrev.com/m/datagrid/l/7337-how-do-i-save-changes-the-user-makes-in-an-editor-field-to-an-external-data-source explains how you can i) override EditFieldText with only one parameter, in which case it won't automatically save and refresh the data grid, but you'll have to ii) edit closeFieldEditor to write to the database and, if successful, update dgData and then "set" it, which will refresh datagrid. But, wouldn't the problem remain, that other users simultaneously updating a (different) cell of the datagrid would lose their edits as soon as you save one edited cell and refresh the datagrid (by setting the dgData)? Each user editing a copy of the datagrid would likely resolve this problem. Regards, Sri -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-Help-tp4690006p4690066.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
All this activity, and all this excitement, for one wee little new version, lol On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:30 PM, zryip theSlug wrote: > For DGH users, > > Matthias reported me DGH is crashing LiveCode 8.0.0. > > After a quick investigation of the crash report, it seems LC is > failing in rendering the graphics of the DGH stack. > > Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread > 0 ??? 0xa08d7cc9 -[PAStackshot > initWithGlobalTrace].tracebuf + 4235425 > 1 com.runrev.livecode 0x0045ff27 > SkARGB32_Shader_Blitter::blitAntiH(int, int, unsigned char const*, > short const*) + 695 > 2 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba9e9 SuperBlitter::~SuperBlitter() > + 105 > 3 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba575 > SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRegion const&, SkBlitter*, bool) > + 1237 > 4 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba7b3 > SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRasterClip const&, SkBlitter*) + > 67 > 5 com.runrev.livecode 0x00478cb1 SkDraw::drawPath(SkPath > const&, SkPaint const&, SkMatrix const*, bool, bool) const + 1137 > 6 com.runrev.livecode 0x004cf8d0 > SkBitmapDevice::drawPath(SkDraw const&, SkPath const&, SkPaint const&, > SkMatrix const*, bool) + 64 > 7 com.runrev.livecode 0x0046bc56 SkCanvas::drawPath(SkPath > const&, SkPaint const&) + 790 > 8 com.runrev.livecode 0x0039a1f9 MCGContextFill(__MCGContext*) > + 89 > 9 com.runrev.livecode 0x0021c069 > MCGraphicsContext::fillarc(MCRectangle const&, unsigned short, > unsigned short, bool) + 249 > 10 com.runrev.livecode 0x000b2f92 > MCGraphic::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 898 > 11 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 > MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 > 12 com.runrev.livecode 0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*, > MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787 > 13 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 > MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 > 14 com.runrev.livecode 0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*, > MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787 > 15 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 > MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 > 16 com.runrev.livecode 0x00029628 MCCard::draw(MCContext*, > MCRectangle const&, bool) + 184 > 17 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015d5cc > MCStack::render(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 140 > 18 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015ca59 > MCStack::render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 313 > 19 com.runrev.livecode 0x00220e51 > MCStack::view_render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle) + 577 > 20 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015cd97 > MCStack::view_surface_redrawwindow(MCStackSurface*, __MCGRegion*) + > 807 > 21 com.runrev.livecode 0x0024ae28 > MCDispatch::wredraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*, > __MCGRegion*) + 136 > 22 com.runrev.livecode 0x0024b5c6 > MCPlatformHandleWindowRedraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*, > __MCGRegion*) + 102 > > I deleted the 3 buttons graphics of the DGH palette and the plugin is > now loading properly. > > If you are a DGH user and want to use the LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1, remove > DGH from your livecode plugins folder. > > Will investigate and report the issue in the qcc as soon as I have > more infos for describing the reason of the crash. > > > Best Regards, > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel > wrote: > > Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load > > properly. > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond > > wrote: > > > >> On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote: > >> > >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond > wrote: > >>> > >>> Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub > at the moment? > > >>> Just for you Richmond: > >>> > >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_ > >>> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 > >>> > >>> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be > >>> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Fraser > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools > stack > >> loaded with > >> just the 2 arrows at the top. > >> > >> Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new > >> things at the top. > >> > >> Richmond. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.co
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
For DGH users, Matthias reported me DGH is crashing LiveCode 8.0.0. After a quick investigation of the crash report, it seems LC is failing in rendering the graphics of the DGH stack. Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 ??? 0xa08d7cc9 -[PAStackshot initWithGlobalTrace].tracebuf + 4235425 1 com.runrev.livecode 0x0045ff27 SkARGB32_Shader_Blitter::blitAntiH(int, int, unsigned char const*, short const*) + 695 2 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba9e9 SuperBlitter::~SuperBlitter() + 105 3 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba575 SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRegion const&, SkBlitter*, bool) + 1237 4 com.runrev.livecode 0x004ba7b3 SkScan::AntiFillPath(SkPath const&, SkRasterClip const&, SkBlitter*) + 67 5 com.runrev.livecode 0x00478cb1 SkDraw::drawPath(SkPath const&, SkPaint const&, SkMatrix const*, bool, bool) const + 1137 6 com.runrev.livecode 0x004cf8d0 SkBitmapDevice::drawPath(SkDraw const&, SkPath const&, SkPaint const&, SkMatrix const*, bool) + 64 7 com.runrev.livecode 0x0046bc56 SkCanvas::drawPath(SkPath const&, SkPaint const&) + 790 8 com.runrev.livecode 0x0039a1f9 MCGContextFill(__MCGContext*) + 89 9 com.runrev.livecode 0x0021c069 MCGraphicsContext::fillarc(MCRectangle const&, unsigned short, unsigned short, bool) + 249 10 com.runrev.livecode 0x000b2f92 MCGraphic::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 898 11 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 12 com.runrev.livecode 0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787 13 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 14 com.runrev.livecode 0x000ba493 MCGroup::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool, bool) + 787 15 com.runrev.livecode 0x0006a8c4 MCControl::redraw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 196 16 com.runrev.livecode 0x00029628 MCCard::draw(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&, bool) + 184 17 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015d5cc MCStack::render(MCContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 140 18 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015ca59 MCStack::render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle const&) + 313 19 com.runrev.livecode 0x00220e51 MCStack::view_render(__MCGContext*, MCRectangle) + 577 20 com.runrev.livecode 0x0015cd97 MCStack::view_surface_redrawwindow(MCStackSurface*, __MCGRegion*) + 807 21 com.runrev.livecode 0x0024ae28 MCDispatch::wredraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*, __MCGRegion*) + 136 22 com.runrev.livecode 0x0024b5c6 MCPlatformHandleWindowRedraw(MCPlatformWindow*, MCPlatformSurface*, __MCGRegion*) + 102 I deleted the 3 buttons graphics of the DGH palette and the plugin is now loading properly. If you are a DGH user and want to use the LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1, remove DGH from your livecode plugins folder. Will investigate and report the issue in the qcc as soon as I have more infos for describing the reason of the crash. Best Regards, On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel wrote: > Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load > properly. > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond > wrote: > >> On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote: >> >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: >>> >>> Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the moment? >>> Just for you Richmond: >>> >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_ >>> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 >>> >>> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be >>> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Fraser >>> >>> >>> >> Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools stack >> loaded with >> just the 2 arrows at the top. >> >> Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new >> things at the top. >> >> Richmond. >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Zryip TheSlug http://www.aslugontheroad.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Datagrid Help
Hi Jim, It's pretty complicated to explain on the list but you can certainly do that. Take a look at the Datagrid Manual section titled "How Do I Open A Table Cell For Editing". It tells how how to grab the data after the user has finished editing a cell and do whatever you need to do with it. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:30 PM Jim Schaubeck wrote: > Sri, > Thank you for the response and I wish I would have explained a bit more. I > need to update the database one cell at a time preferably on some sort of > "closeField" type of message. I have multiple users updating the same > payroll grid at the same time. If I save the entire grid at once, I would > erase changes made (at the same time) to other cells in the grid. > > Your method is simple to code yes but I need more granularity in what > changes I save and when. I would like to trigger a save to db when I see a > "closeField" type of message. This is what I do when I "roll my own" > datagrid. My home made datagrids never look as good or work as well when > scrolling as the LC Datagrid. > > Thank you > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Sri wrote: > > > 1. Load data from the database into tArray. > > > > 2. Set the dgData of the data grid to tArray to display the data. > > Make a back up of the initial data to tBackupArray. > > > > 3. After the user edits the data in the data grid, say, he clicks a > button > > "Save" > > Write the dgData of the data grid to the database. > > > > 4. If the write is successful, put the dgData of the data grid into > > tBackupArray. > > If the write is unsuccessful, set the dgData of the data grid to > > tBackupArray. > > > > Regards, > > Sri > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid- > Help-tp4690006p4690012.html > > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > -- > > > jim schaubeck jschaub...@gmail.com > 714-321-4499 > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Datagrid Help
Sri, Thank you for the response and I wish I would have explained a bit more. I need to update the database one cell at a time preferably on some sort of "closeField" type of message. I have multiple users updating the same payroll grid at the same time. If I save the entire grid at once, I would erase changes made (at the same time) to other cells in the grid. Your method is simple to code yes but I need more granularity in what changes I save and when. I would like to trigger a save to db when I see a "closeField" type of message. This is what I do when I "roll my own" datagrid. My home made datagrids never look as good or work as well when scrolling as the LC Datagrid. Thank you On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Sri wrote: > 1. Load data from the database into tArray. > > 2. Set the dgData of the data grid to tArray to display the data. > Make a back up of the initial data to tBackupArray. > > 3. After the user edits the data in the data grid, say, he clicks a button > "Save" > Write the dgData of the data grid to the database. > > 4. If the write is successful, put the dgData of the data grid into > tBackupArray. > If the write is unsuccessful, set the dgData of the data grid to > tBackupArray. > > Regards, > Sri > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-Help-tp4690006p4690012.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- jim schaubeck jschaub...@gmail.com 714-321-4499 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Seems to take two launches of the executable to get the palette to load properly. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote: > >> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: >> >> Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub >>> at the moment? >>> >> Just for you Richmond: >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_ >> 0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 >> >> The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be >> one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. >> >> Regards, >> Fraser >> >> >> > Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools stack > loaded with > just the 2 arrows at the top. > > Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new > things at the top. > > Richmond. > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the moment? Just for you Richmond: http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. Regards, Fraser Interestingly enough; the first time I started this up the revTools stack loaded with just the 2 arrows at the top. Now I started it again and the whole palette loaded with all those new things at the top. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
I expect a lot of people are downloading it. I downloaded it twice early, and it didn’t take too long. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > > >Download crawling along for anyone else? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Restarted it a few times and now its going right. A couple of times there it said it was going to take 6 hours to download. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Download crawling along for anyone else? > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT < > ludovic.theba...@laposte.net> wrote: > >> >> > Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon a >> écrit : >> > >> > Hi Matthias, >> > >> > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D < >> matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote: >> > >> >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes >> immediately after showing the LC ide. >> >> >> >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? >> >> >> >> Matthias >> > >> > What platform are you running on? >> > >> > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it? >> >> >> Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where >> there are mobgui and data grid helper) >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Andrew Kluthe > and...@ctech.me > -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Download crawling along for anyone else? On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ludovic THEBAULT < ludovic.theba...@laposte.net> wrote: > > > Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon a > écrit : > > > > Hi Matthias, > > > > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D < > matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote: > > > >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes > immediately after showing the LC ide. > >> > >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? > >> > >> Matthias > > > > What platform are you running on? > > > > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it? > > > Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where > there are mobgui and data grid helper) > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
> Le 12 mars 2015 à 19:40, Fraser Gordon a écrit : > > Hi Matthias, > > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D > wrote: > >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes >> immediately after showing the LC ide. >> >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? >> >> Matthias > > What platform are you running on? > > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it? Same thing (Yosemite) but work when i rename the plug-in folder (where there are mobgui and data grid helper) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
The one thing that really catches my eye is the "extension manager": Menubar/Tools/Extension Manager Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 21:04, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the moment? Just for you Richmond: http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. Regards, Fraser ___ Bless you. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: > Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the > moment? Just for you Richmond: http://downloads.livecode.com/fraser/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux_NO_BROWSER.x86 The dictionary won’t work (you’ll get a blank window) and there may be one or two other oddities, but it should otherwise work. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:53, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: > Fraser, > > It was my „My livecode“ folder, i think the plugins. I renamed it and i was > able to successfully start LC 8. Thanks for tracking that down. We’ll investigate why that might be happening. Could you either submit a bugzilla report or let me know off-list what plugins you have installed so we can reproduce? > > But, as i need my plugins for my older LC versions, is there a way to tell LC > to use its on „my livecode“ folder? > Or do i really have to switch the prefs every time i switch the LC versions. LiveCode 7 and above use a separate preferences file to 6.x and below - if you customise the location of your folder in 7 or above, it shouldn’t affect previous versions. Versions 7 and 8 use the same preferences file, though. The setting is in Preferences -> Files & Memory and is the “User Extensions” folder at the bottom of the pane. Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Fraser, It was my „My livecode“ folder, i think the plugins. I renamed it and i was able to successfully start LC 8. But, as i need my plugins for my older LC versions, is there a way to tell LC to use its on „my livecode“ folder? Or do i really have to switch the prefs every time i switch the LC versions. Regards, Matthias > Am 12.03.2015 um 19:40 schrieb Fraser Gordon : > > Hi Matthias, > > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D > wrote: > >> Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes >> immediately after showing the LC ide. >> >> Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? >> >> Matthias > > What platform are you running on? > > Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it? > > Regards, > Fraser > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:45, Richmond wrote: > Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the > moment? If you’re able to build LiveCode for Linux normally, it should work. You might have to do an initial step of make bootstrap before “make all” to ensure that the compiler for LC Builder gets created - some of the engine is now implemented in LCB. Other than the revbrowser component, the 32-bit Linux build works. However, we didn’t want to ship an incomplete installer where some of the major new IDE features don’t work (the new dictionary and the extension store pane of the extension manager rely on revbrowser). Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
They will still be available after a short delay - we're doing some work on the website. Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Mar 2015, at 14:28, Mark Laffoon wrote: > > All of the "old" plugins (chart maker, scrapbook, etc.) are no longer > available on the Livecode store... Is this feature discontinued? > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Colin Holgate > wrote: > >> i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the >> two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. >> >> On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: Sorry, but where is the download location? >>> >>> My bad. >>> >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >>> >>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Fraser >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > -- > I am CDO. This is a lot like OCD, except the letters are in alphabetical > order... as they should be. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Is there any point trying to build a 32 bit Linux version from Git Hub at the moment? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Good news, a fresh download and install fixed the tool palette issue. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Hi Matthias, On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:34, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: > Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes > immediately after showing the LC ide. > > Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? > > Matthias What platform are you running on? Does it crash every time or just the first time you run it? Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:30, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Looks like there’s no commercial edition available. Is this community-only > for now? For the initial DP releases, yes. There are a few more things to get sorted out with regards to commercial widgets before providing commercial builds. As Richmond has noticed, there’s also not a 32-bit Linux build currently - we have to custom-build the Chromium Embedded Framework so that revbrowser will work on Linux (as it is used for our new user guide and dictionary) and this is not a small undertaking. 32-bit will be returning, just not for this first DP. Which reminds me - revbrowser is now available on Linux (when used in CEF mode). Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
The download page is updated now. I’m redownloading in case the tool palette issue was fixed in a later DMG. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > > I meant to change the link to x64 after I figured out the x86 (32-bit) one > was missing. In the excitement of the moment, I clicked send. > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D < > matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote: > >> >> >>> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller >> : >>> >>> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe >>> >>> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg >>> >>> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 >>> >>> >> only the 64bit version is available at the moment >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64 >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond >>> wrote: >>> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond >> wrote: > > Sorry, but where is the download location? >> > My bad. > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > > it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. > > Regards, > Fraser > > > > Unfortunately it isn't listed there. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
I meant to change the link to x64 after I figured out the x86 (32-bit) one was missing. In the excitement of the moment, I clicked send. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D < matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de> wrote: > > > > Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller >: > > > > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe > > > > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg > > > > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 > > > > > only the 64bit version is available at the moment > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64 > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond > > wrote: > > > >> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: > >> > >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond > wrote: > >>> > >>> Sorry, but where is the download location? > > >>> My bad. > >>> > >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > >>> > >>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Fraser > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Unfortunately it isn't listed there. > >> > >> Richmond. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 20:33, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote: Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller : http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 only the 64bit version is available at the moment http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64 Let's hope the "at the moment" does not mean there will be NO 32 bit version. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Downloaded and installed the community version now. But it crashes immediately after showing the LC ide. Anything i can do except deleting all Lc preferences? Matthias > Am 12.03.2015 um 19:27 schrieb Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D > : > > Auto updater in LC commercial Mac shows here an available download, but > trying to download tells me, that an error occurred. > > Matthias > > > > >> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:22 schrieb Fraser Gordon : >> >> >> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: >> >>> Sorry, but where is the download location? >> >> My bad. >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >> >> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. >> >> Regards, >> Fraser >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 20:30, Roger Eller wrote: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 There is no "x86" Linux version, only a 64 bit version . . . g. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
> Am 12.03.2015 um 19:30 schrieb Roger Eller : > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 > > only the 64bit version is available at the moment http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x64 > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond > wrote: > >> On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: >> >>> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, but where is the download location? >>> My bad. >>> >>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >>> >>> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Fraser >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately it isn't listed there. >> >> Richmond. >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Interested to know why there is no longer a 32 bit version for Linux . . . . . . or, put another way: I'm going to have to spend all of next weekend reinstalling my Linux box with a 64 bit version and really wonder whether it is justified. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:23, Richmond wrote: > On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: >> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: >> >>> Sorry, but where is the download location? >> My bad. >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >> >> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. >> >> Regards, >> Fraser >> >> >> > Unfortunately it isn't listed there. Looks like a database update didn’t go through. Should be appearing now. Hopefully… Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Looks like there’s no commercial edition available. Is this community-only for now? > On Mar 12, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Fraser Gordon > wrote: > > Dear list members, > > *** Warning: this is an alpha release *** > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release > brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform: > > - A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets > and engine-level commands and functions > - IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser > and a new dictionary > - An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and > libraries > - The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions > > This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As > always, please backup your stacks. > > Known issues with 8.0 DP 1: > > - The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old > property inspector > - The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load > - The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness > - The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being > tested is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE > should help > - Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the > appropriate resources are not included in the standalone > - All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced > > LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any > feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to > implement but aren’t ready yet and the existing features are subject to > change during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 > will continue to work in later versions. > > Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at > http://quality.livecode.com/ > > We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at > http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93 > > > Regards, > The LiveCode Team > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:25, Colin Holgate wrote: > i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two > run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. > Hi Colin, We’ve noticed that issue a couple of times but haven’t been able to track down the cause yet. It only seems to happen (for us, at least) the first time the IDE is launched. Restarting it makes the classic controls and new widgets re-appear. If not, let us know. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Aha! 8 has just appeared. Thank you very much. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Windows.exe http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Mac.dmg http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_0_0/LiveCodeCommunityInstaller-8_0_0_dp_1-Linux.x86 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: > >> On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: >> >> Sorry, but where is the download location? >>> >> My bad. >> >> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ >> >> it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. >> >> Regards, >> Fraser >> >> >> >> Unfortunately it isn't listed there. > > Richmond. > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
All of the "old" plugins (chart maker, scrapbook, etc.) are no longer available on the Livecode store... Is this feature discontinued? On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the > two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. > > > > On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon > wrote: > > > > > > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: > > > >> Sorry, but where is the download location? > > > > My bad. > > > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > > > > it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. > > > > Regards, > > Fraser > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- I am CDO. This is a lot like OCD, except the letters are in alphabetical order... as they should be. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. > On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon wrote: > > > On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: > >> Sorry, but where is the download location? > > My bad. > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ > > it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. > > Regards, > Fraser > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 20:25, Colin Holgate wrote: i emailed Ben a screenshot of how the tool palette looks. It only has the two run mode arrows. No widgets, no classic controls. Jolly-Dee; but where does one get hold of the thing? Richmond. On Mar 12, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: Sorry, but where is the download location? My bad. http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 20:22, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: Sorry, but where is the download location? My bad. http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. Regards, Fraser Unfortunately it isn't listed there. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12 Mar 2015, at 18:20, Richmond wrote: > Sorry, but where is the download location? My bad. http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ it should be listed at the top. The auto-updater should also have it. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Sorry, but where is the download location? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
On 12/03/15 20:16, Fraser Gordon wrote: Dear list members, *** Warning: this is an alpha release *** We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform: - A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets and engine-level commands and functions - IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser and a new dictionary - An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and libraries - The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As always, please backup your stacks. Known issues with 8.0 DP 1: - The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old property inspector - The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load - The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness - The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being tested is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE should help - Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the appropriate resources are not included in the standalone - All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to implement but aren’t ready yet and the existing features are subject to change during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 will continue to work in later versions. Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at http://quality.livecode.com/ We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93 Oo, sexy! My digestive juices are flowing. Congratulations. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Release: LiveCode 8.0.0 DP 1
Dear list members, *** Warning: this is an alpha release *** We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 1. This release brings a number of new features to the LiveCode platform: - A new language (LiveCode Builder) for extending LiveCode with new widgets and engine-level commands and functions - IDE improvements, with a re-written property inspector and project browser and a new dictionary - An “extension builder” IDE plugin for testing and packaging widgets and libraries - The LiveCode Extension Store, for sharing community extensions This is a developer preview release and should be used with caution. As always, please backup your stacks. Known issues with 8.0 DP 1: - The new property inspector lacks some properties present in the old property inspector - The extension store pane of the extensions manager does not always load - The supplied widgets are examples and lack features and general robustness - The extension builder plugin “Test” feature fails if the widget being tested is already installed - uninstalling the widget and restarting the IDE should help - Widget icons do not appear in Android and iOS standalones as the appropriate resources are not included in the standalone - All installed widgets are built into any standalones produced LiveCode 8 is in an early stage of development so we’d love to hear any feedback you have on it. There are a number of features that we’d like to implement but aren’t ready yet and the existing features are subject to change during development - we can’t guarantee that extensions written in DP1 will continue to work in later versions. Please report any bugs encountered on our Bugzilla at http://quality.livecode.com/ We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93 Regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
v8 and Widgets
For the first time in a while, I'm pretty enthusiastic about what I'll be able to do with livecode in the future. The performance of the rotation demo on that clock was impressive. I've already started going through all of the .lcb files up on github. Previously, I wasn't getting my hopes up due to the lack of many details about its limitations, syntax, etc. After seeing today's webinar, I think this is exactly what defines "next-generation" livecode for me. Livecode builder compile directly to JS in the future? M-w! -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Saving Objects
I think the following would work. First highlight the group then: copy put the clipboarddata["objects"] into URL "binfile:". To get it back: set the clipboarddata["Objects"] to URL "binfile:" paste --will paste onto the top card. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:58 AM Eric Corbett wrote: > Any way to save an object or a group of objects without having to save the > stack? > > I would like to create a group, save the group, then be able to add that > group to a stack. > > I am currently: > > 1. Creating a group on a blank stack; > 2. Saving the stack binary; > 3. Downloading the stack binary when needed; > 4. Creating a stack file from the binary; > 5. Loading the stack into memory; > 6. Copying the group to another stack; > 7 Deleting the stack from memory, from disk. > > I also thought about saving the properties of the group and all the > objects to a text file, then creating all the objects on the fly and > setting each one’s property from the text file. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Eric > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
SQLite Problem
Just came across an SQLite problem.
I issued the following statement in a revQueryDatabase command
SELECT Date,printf('%6.2f',Value) FROM Transactions
No errors on that. Subsequently I use revDatabaseColumnNames to get the
column names followed by a loop using revDatabaseColumnNamed to get the
column values. The latter returns an error indicating that printf('%6.2f'
and ,Value are invalid column names.
It appears that the comma in the printf command confuses Livecode. If I use
sqlite3 with .mode column and .headings and issue the same statement, it
uses the printf function as the column heading.
There are a couple of workarounds for this. You can change the SELECT
command to use "printf('%6.2f',Value) AS FormattedValue". Or you can use
revDatabaseColumnNumbered to get the column values in the order they are
referenced in the SELECT statement.
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Re: 64-bit
Thanks a lot to you two. I will make a test with my smallest app and let you know if it works. Alain Le 2015-03-12 à 10:52, Chris Sheffield a écrit : > Alain, > > Currently an app built with 64-bit support *does not* install/run on an iPad > 1. I’ve been dealing with this myself. It’s not anything specific to > LiveCode, however. For example, apps built with Xcode have the same issue. I > don’t know if there’s a way to “force” it to work, or not. I haven’t > discovered one. > > There is already a ticket submitted for the issue here > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14794. I don’t know if it’s > possible to build one standalone for all devices still or not (this would be > ideal), as it seems to be something with the Xcode tools themselves. At the > very least, I asked for an option in the standalone settings to build for > 32-bit only, thus allowing us to continue testing on the iPad 1. > > It is my understanding that this is only an issue with testing apps. When an > app is submitted to the app store, it will still be able to be installed on > an iPad 1, even though it’s built with 64-bit support. Apple supposedly does > something on their end to make this possible. > > Hopefully this helps a bit. > > Chris > > > -- > Chris Sheffield > Read Naturally, Inc. > www.readnaturally.com > >> On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Alain Vezina >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> If I am right, LC 7.0.3 it’s a 64-bit standalone maker. >> Does it contain also a 32-bit? If not, can we run a 64-bit app on an iPad of >> first generation (iOS 5.1.1) ? >> >> Regards >> >> Alain Vezina >> Directeur, Logilangue >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Saving Objects
Any way to save an object or a group of objects without having to save the stack? I would like to create a group, save the group, then be able to add that group to a stack. I am currently: 1. Creating a group on a blank stack; 2. Saving the stack binary; 3. Downloading the stack binary when needed; 4. Creating a stack file from the binary; 5. Loading the stack into memory; 6. Copying the group to another stack; 7 Deleting the stack from memory, from disk. I also thought about saving the properties of the group and all the objects to a text file, then creating all the objects on the fly and setting each one’s property from the text file. Any ideas? Thanks, Eric ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC7 & Unicode
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I'll keep you posted with any definitive news from them. > thanks, Richard -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC7 & Unicode
stephen barncard wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:27 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Is that on Dreamhost, or have you been able to reproduce it on >> another shared host? > > I have a "standby" shared account at Intersever.. thanks to your > suggestion. > I am pretty sure I did a test but maybe not. thanks for > reminding me. > > .but moving all my stuff would be a pain... I'll do a test though. I'd be interested in your results. So far we've tested on InterServer, HostGator, and JaguarPC in addition to Dreamhost, and the noticeable lag has only been evident on Dreamhost. Being a long-time Dreamhost fan like yourself I would prefer to keep using them as well, so I've been helping Phil Davis who's been stewarding this issue through DH support. It's been a long diagnostic process, but recently we may have found the root cause, and if so I would expect a fix from them shortly. I'll keep you posted with any definitive news from them. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 64-bit
Alain, Currently an app built with 64-bit support *does not* install/run on an iPad 1. I’ve been dealing with this myself. It’s not anything specific to LiveCode, however. For example, apps built with Xcode have the same issue. I don’t know if there’s a way to “force” it to work, or not. I haven’t discovered one. There is already a ticket submitted for the issue here http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14794. I don’t know if it’s possible to build one standalone for all devices still or not (this would be ideal), as it seems to be something with the Xcode tools themselves. At the very least, I asked for an option in the standalone settings to build for 32-bit only, thus allowing us to continue testing on the iPad 1. It is my understanding that this is only an issue with testing apps. When an app is submitted to the app store, it will still be able to be installed on an iPad 1, even though it’s built with 64-bit support. Apple supposedly does something on their end to make this possible. Hopefully this helps a bit. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com > On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Alain Vezina wrote: > > Hi all, > > If I am right, LC 7.0.3 it’s a 64-bit standalone maker. > Does it contain also a 32-bit? If not, can we run a 64-bit app on an iPad of > first generation (iOS 5.1.1) ? > > Regards > > Alain Vezina > Directeur, Logilangue > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 64-bit
On 12 Mar 2015, at 13:41, Alain Vezina wrote: > > If I am right, LC 7.0.3 it’s a 64-bit standalone maker. > Does it contain also a 32-bit? If not, can we run a 64-bit app on an iPad of > first generation (iOS 5.1.1) ? The standalones produced for iOS should have both 32-bit and 64-bit “slices”. If it doesn’t work, let us know and we’ll take a look at it. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
64-bit
Hi all, If I am right, LC 7.0.3 it’s a 64-bit standalone maker. Does it contain also a 32-bit? If not, can we run a 64-bit app on an iPad of first generation (iOS 5.1.1) ? Regards Alain Vezina Directeur, Logilangue ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Datagrid Help
1. Load data from the database into tArray. 2. Set the dgData of the data grid to tArray to display the data. Make a back up of the initial data to tBackupArray. 3. After the user edits the data in the data grid, say, he clicks a button "Save" Write the dgData of the data grid to the database. 4. If the write is successful, put the dgData of the data grid into tBackupArray. If the write is unsuccessful, set the dgData of the data grid to tBackupArray. Regards, Sri -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Datagrid-Help-tp4690006p4690012.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release 6.7.4 RC 1 / 7.0.4 RC 1
Well no wonder I couldn't activate the new releases! http://livecode.com is currently down - http://sorry.livecode.com - "The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Release-6-7-4-RC-1-7-0-4-RC-1-tp4689972p4690011.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Unconference in NYC
A question about the time. The US is on daylight savings time now, the announcement says 5 PM GMT, which isn't daylight savings. So what time is the presentation in the US? If it is at 1 PM EDT then it isn't at 5 PM GMT. If it is at 1 PM EST then it is clock-time at 2 PM EDT. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Unconference in NYC
Is anyone on this list going tomorrow to the un-conference..? I see that there are 54 people who have signed up. What I want to know is if there is any parking over there…? I used Google maps to check it out but don’t see anything. I live in the city, and just like the Seinfeld episode, if something is more than 5 blocks away I couldn’t be bothered… ;-) If no parking, then I’ll just do it online. Thanks Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Printing in LC 7.0.3
> On 11 Mar 2015, at 18:32, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > The report's status is "awaiting merge", and that was just yesterday. Given > the time required for both the merge and build processes, it may be that this > item is outside the scope of this morning's 7.0.4rc1, likely in the build > after. OK Thanks Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Printing in LC 7.0.3
Terence Heaford wrote: > On 10 Mar 2015, at 13:57, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> On 5 March Paul Hibbert wrote: >> >> > This bug is reported now: >> > >> > http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14814 >> >> Thanks again for reporting this, Paul. >> >> I just got notice from the bug DB this morning that this issue has >> been fixed, and will be in the next build. >> >> Good work by all. > > Just downloaded LC 7.0.4 rc1 and it’s not in this build. The report's status is "awaiting merge", and that was just yesterday. Given the time required for both the merge and build processes, it may be that this item is outside the scope of this morning's 7.0.4rc1, likely in the build after. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Release 6.7.4 RC 1 / 7.0.4 RC 1
Dear List Members, We're pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 1 and 7.0.4 RC 1. This release is a maintenance release that contains bug fixes for both versions. The list of bug fixed can be found in the Release Notes. *Getting the Release* To get the release please select "check for updates" from the "help" menu in the product or download the installer directly at: http://downloads.livecode.com *6.7.4 RC 2 / 7.0.4 RC 2 * The next maintenance builds of these releases will be made public in the coming days, and they will add the support for Xcode 6.2, released by Apple on the 9th of March. Warm regards, The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Release 6.7.4 RC 1 / 7.0.4 RC 1
I guess the server RunRev uses for licence activations has bugged out - has anyone managed to activate 6.7.4 or 7.0.4? - "The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Release-6-7-4-RC-1-7-0-4-RC-1-tp4689972p4690010.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Managing Sizes - Images in Mobile (was Mobile Template)
Are you guys talking about the automatic Density Mapped Images feature that was introduced in 6.5? You just provide image assets at various resolutions with standard resolution tags appended to the filenames, and LiveCode automatically chooses the best resolution based on the resolution of the device. See the tutorial at http://lessons.runrev.com/s/lessons/m/15262/l/156530-how-do-i-support-different-device-screen-densities. Or am I completely missing the point of the question? (Wouldn’t be the first time.) Devin On Mar 10, 2015, at 5:06 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > I took the "ease the pain" path. I include 1 image that looks good on the > best resolution device and then scale it down. I use the iPad Retina for my > calculation. So if I want the image to take up say 70% of the card, I > calculate the size so when it's taking 70% of a Retina screen it look good. > Now when the image displays on a lower resolution device I scale it down to > 70% of the current device size and place it where it needs to be. Now this > has one big downfall.CPU time. If all there were was iOS then creating > all the sizes for the Apple ecosystem would not be too bad although lots of > work when the next gen comes out. With the veritable cornucopia of Android > sizes I determined that it would be an impossible task to have images for > all those resolutions. Now I did all this before there was rescaling in LC. > Back in the day I got Jacque's "You have to roll your own rescaling" reality > check. It's nice to see that rescaling is now in LC. I'm going to give a > whirl soon. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Brahmanathaswami > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 6:16 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Managing Sizes - Images in Mobile (was Mobile Template) > > Hmm... All this buzz about apps that scale everything for every rect, with > CSS and HTML5 etc, > > Certainly they are not placing a single instance of a rasturized image at > 320 X 568 @ 72 and then expect that to scale up to 1024 X 768 > "automatically" and still look decent. Unless the laws of pixel physics have > changed recently, I'm still thinking upscaled low res graphics will yield > rancid results no matter what the framework. Am I mistaken? Even Apple's > iBook Author software called for multiple images at different sizes... > > Perhaps one path to "ease the pain" of multiple images could be > > 1) see how far you can take your design with vector objects so that scale > relative to appearance is never an issue. > > I need to test EPS more extensively and break open Adobe Illustrator's > toolbox. Theoretically this get's us vector if you stay in vector (don't > place jpgs) > > "Importing an EPS file creates an EPS object on the current card." > > should work big or small.. > > 2) For "single image instance" development, for raster art/photos... go the > other direction: provide images to some larger rect at 150dpi and then when > it scales down, it will look great (untested). > > It seems to me the total "weight" of the app resources would be the same > if you included 6 files at different resolutions, or just 1 image at a > higher resolution that works for most contexts. 7.0.3's boot time is a sad > regression, but, once open LC's render time for a larger image into a > smaller rect should not be a issue if the image is local Am I daft? > Different story of course if you are pulling from a remote server. > > Is anyone else thinking/working in terms of this "single hi-res raster image > instance" direction? > > If so -- what seems to be good params for the optimal "single image > instance" size and resolution for most devices? > > Brahmanathaswami > > Geoff Canyon wrote: I'm working in 6.7.3, so (as far as I know) there's still some sort of "build it at 320x568 and it will automatically scale up, but then you have to provide double-size graphics, etc." thing going > on. >> >> >> fullscreenmode -- apparently in place since6.5. I'm looking into it now. >> >> gc > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Devin Asay Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: ht
Re: If you don't read the forums
Folks: When Director added new code styles, it used a property called “scriptExecutionStyle” which you could set to maintain some older statements. One of the problems with just using older versions is that there may be critical unfixed bugs and the dev team wouldn’t want to be required to spend time fixing them. It would be a “buyer beware” situation, which might be ok if explicit. I only have a single app and am pretty new to Livecode, so my opinion shouldn’t carry a lot of weight re legacy features. That said, one of the things that makes me optimistic about LiveCode’s future is the modernization, bug fixing, and enhancement effort that is being put into it. After a dismal experience with Director and Adobe’s abandonment of a really nice development platform, I’m definitely gun-shy of moldy old software that is not evolving. I cast my vote for going ahead and, with some notice and time for developers to adjust, make changes that make the engine better, more consistent with established practices, and easier to maintain. Best, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: If you don't read the forums
Chris Sheffield wrote: > Thanks for the heads up. Would have never known about it otherwise… You probably would once the basics were sorted out. As with the introduction of byteToNum, trueWord, and other changes to the engine, since the engine has gone open source RunRev has a good track record of maintaining transparent process for new initiatives. The Engine Contributors section of the forums is where a lot of both near-term and far-reaching ideas for the engine get fleshed out. Nothing in Mark's range of proposals has been implemented yet, and indeed it's a *range* of proposals, not yet finalized into a single initiative. Like the rest of the Open Source forums, the Engine Contributors section is available to everyone. All earnest participation in the spirit of those working groups there is of course welcome. -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: If you don't read the forums
I’ll have to work out my forum login, it’s not working right now. But on the topic in question, here are a couple of examples from the history of Flash, that might help: When Flash 9 came out Adobe introduced ActionScript 3. It was radically different than ActionScript 2, and some of the ways you could work in AS2 were no longer supported. But, you could still choose to make an AS2 document if you wanted. That ability was supported for at least three major versions before it was dropped. People have mostly coped, and keep a copy of CS6 around just in case. Even within AS3 documents there were file differences from version to version, and Flash would support two version back, you could do a Save As to the two previous versions. Starting with CS5.5 they made the file format future proof. You will be able to take a Flash Professional Creative Cloud 2025 document and open it in CS5.5. Any new features you had used wouldn’t work, but at least you could get at the media, and if you hadn’t used newer features, you could do a Save As to get an authentic CS5.5 document. Back to LiveCode, it could do something similar, but better. From now on you would choose LiveCode Legacy, or LiveCode, as the stack type, and unlike Flash keep that ability around forever. Also, make it be that LiveCode 8.0 file format is future proof, and that it could open a LiveCode 10 document, to at least use the LiveCode 8 features in that stack. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Fast-tracking LiveCode for beginners
I am looking for a means to fast-track a client into the world of LiveCode programming. Am considering Devin's "LiveCode University" course, and delivering it myself over a concentrated one week period for him in person. Any comments or other suggestions? Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
LC7 & Unicode
I do not know much, if anything about the LC implementation of Unicode or Unicode itself but I have been wondering. LC 7.0.3 performance without doubt (to my eyes) seems to be less than LC 6.7.3 and from my reading of posts on this list it seems to be due to LC 7.0.3 implementing Unicode? So, my question and perhaps it has been asked before but I don’t remember reading about it is: Can LC 7 & LC 8 be coded to enable Unicode to be switched “on”/“off” either globally or on an individual control basis? If possible LC 6 could be immediately dumped for future updates. So, where you are using a control that contains a lot of data, DataGrid or Bernd’s modTableField, you could turn off the Unicode in relation to these controls and leave it on for those controls that may need it more. Presumably this would improve the performance. As I say, I know nothing of Unicode. All the best Terry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
