Re: Database error?

2015-04-09 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Graham,

the Joomla installation asks for the  user password of the user you´ve added to 
the database.

Matthias

 Am 09.04.2015 um 20:58 schrieb Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com:
 
 Shawn, when I create a database from my cPanel, I am NOT asked to set a 
 password for it. I am asked for a password for each user, and I am beginning 
 to understand that users can be attached to one or more databases, and 
 presumably this is how databases are controlled. But I emphatically have not 
 seen a dialog or a field asking me for a password for the database itself. As 
 I can’t put attachments on this list, i have simply made the test again (log 
 in to cPanel, go to ‘mySQL databases’, click on ‘create database’ - the name 
 had to begin with my On-Rev name and an underscore), and I confirm that the 
 database is created with no password anywhere. I know that the Joomla 
 database connection process thinks that my database has a password, but the 
 only passwords I have are for the users and the cPanel itself.
 
 Puzzled
 
 Graham
 
 PS  I have asked lots of questions about this and have now received lots of 
 answers, which I’m working through. I promise to report all my results to 
 this list and to the people who helped me off-list as well. I really do 
 appreciate all the help I’m getting.
 
 
 On 8 Apr 2015, at 22:29, shawnlc shawn...@me.com wrote:
 
 Let me add this too.  In Cpanel when you create a database, you're asked to
 1) create a database, 2) create a username and password for that database,
 and 3) assign a username to that database.  This isn't necessarily the same
 as your Cpanel login, but can be if that's how you create your database. And
 as I mentioned previously, when connecting to MySQL it's username_database
 then your password. Of course you need your domain info.
 
 
 
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Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread sebastien

Dear List Members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 and 7.0.4. This 
release is a stable release that is primarily a promotion of 
respectively LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 3 and 7.0.4 RC 3, and also contains few 
bug fixes for both versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in the 
Release Notes.


*Getting the Release*
To get the release please select check for updates from the help 
menu in the product or download the installer directly at: 
http://downloads.livecode.com


*6.7.5 RC 1 / 7.0.5 RC 1*
The next cycle of 6.7 and 7.0 releases should start by the end of next 
week. The major bug fix will be adding the possibility to use Xcode 6.3 
to build iOS standalone applications.


Warm regards,

The LiveCode Team
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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/9/2015 1:15 PM, John Dixon wrote:

Let's look at it another way... scrollers were working to scroll groups... now 
they don't


Is this only on iOS? I'm scrolling groups in Android okay using native 
scrollers.


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Re: [OT] Market Share

2015-04-09 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/15 03:08, stephen barncard wrote:

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:


I run Linux, Windows and Macintosh, due to the good offices of VMware, in
an Optiplex.


Really? A virtual hackentosh ? you can use a stock install of Yosemite on
one of those? Without some kind of 'jailbreaking' ?


It took some doing.

However, there are instructions on how to do it out there on the internet.

I haven't managed with Yosemite, so have contented myself with 10.8.

Richmond.


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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/15 19:58, John Dixon wrote:

How can you say this is a stable release ?

Not being able to use a 'native scroller' to scroll (see bug 15118) reduces the 
making of mobile apps using liveCode like nothing more that a collection of 
'flash' cards...

Is the scrolling problem going to be fixed, I have tried to ask a number of 
times, or just going to be quietly forgotten about ?...

from support...  I can see the bug report has been confirmed. I'm afraid I 
cannot give you any indication of when it might be fixed or what priority it 
might receive. We do not fix bugs in date order, they are assessed on a variety 
of factors. We will keep you updated on the progress of the bug through our 
system.'

Will this question ever get answered... ?




John Dixon




At this point I am going to do 2 things:

1. Repost a remark I made earlier today:

The problem with this is that we seem to have a series of Beta 
versions; the 6.7 line, the 7.0 line and now the 8.0 line;

all introducing jazzy new things.

However, however jazzy those new things might be, it might not be a bad 
thing to have a rock-solid version to be going on with

while all those Beta versions get sorted out

2. Point out that RunRev STILL suffer from an attitude problem towards 
their users:


Almost everything that has been released since LiveCode went Open Source 
has been shot full of holes:


Why? Because RunRev are running hell-for-leather for some bright new 
future without acknowledging the fact that it
would be better to retrench and sort out all those bugs that have been 
there as long as 9 years.


I didn't know whether to laugh like a mad baboon or crap in my pants 
when somebody suggested recently, when I pointed out

really ancient unfixed bugs, that those bug reports should be dropped!

Funny . . . really funny . . . if we hide the skeletons in the cupboard 
because they are out of sight they will be out of

mind.

-

Just to point something out:

I have had my Devawriter Pro in development for the last 5 years: bugs 
are continually turning up; so I have got seriously bogged
down, and cannot even consider working on the features my system 
development life-cycle suggested should have been finished 2-3 years

ago.

I could, of course, have bolted those features on to the extremely 
shakey thing my DWPro was then, and people who used the thing would
have felt the unspoken 'finger' that was implied by my not having 
addressed those nasty glitches.


Sorry, I'm not made that way; so I have still to get to the stage of 
implementing the transliteration tools.


---

Getting really up-close-and-personal, I notice there is a series of 
threads about connexion and communication with USB devices

that goes back years.

RunRev are not addressing that . . . so all that puff about listening 
to their customers is obviously a load of old . . . .


--

Unlike John Dixon, and many other serious end-users of LiveCode, I am 
not a politically correct Englishman; I am a Scot,
and a bloody Scot at that: so I'm just going to go on telling it like 
it is


Richmond.

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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/15 20:05, Richard Gaskin wrote:

John Dixon wrote:


How can you say this is a stable release ?


It would be helpful if the core dev team would help us understand the 
release process with regard to critical outstanding issues.


For example, these three issues prevent deployment of professional 
apps on Linux:


Option control labels can't be seen when they have focus
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11676
Can't paste into other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14416


Not entirely true:

On my Linux box, running XFCE as my desktop, I find I can copy-paste 
from the LC scriptEditor into LeafPad (the XFCE basic text editor)

and then, from LeafPad into whatever else.

However, I seem unable to paste directly into anything that features 
formatted text, such as LibreOffice.


So, like so many things in LiveCode: Good in parts, and terribly 
inconsistent.



Can't paste from other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13197

As John noted, other platforms also have critical outstanding issues.

As much as we appreciate the steady stream of new builds, the feedback 
I see throughout the community is that we'd very much prefer longer RC 
periods in favor of fewer Stable releases that address a larger 
number of critical issues.




Richmond.

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RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread John Dixon

Ralph...

I pointed out to liveCode that there was a problem with scrolling in both 
6.7.4(RC2) and 7.0.4(RC2)...

 It is possible to scroll a text field built with either 6.7.4(RC2) or 
7.0.4(RC2)... It is not possible to scroll groups when using these two versions 
to build the stack but, it is possible for these two versions to scroll 
groups in a stack that were built with 'previous' versions of liveCode...

http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15118

Have a look at the bug report..:-)

John Dixon


 From: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable
 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:18:43 -0400
 
 John,
 
 What problems are you having with native scrolling? It's not clear from the
 bug report what the issue is. I use it on both mobile platforms. I have not
 tested it on 7 series but it works on 6.5.5, 6.7.3 and 6.7.4v rc3. Is this a
 performance or not working at all problem?
 
 Ralph DiMola
 IT Director
 Evergreen Information Services
 rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
 Of John Dixon
 Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:59 PM
 To: How to use LiveCode
 Subject: RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable
 
 How can you say this is a stable release ?
 
 Not being able to use a 'native scroller' to scroll (see bug 15118) reduces
 the making of mobile apps using liveCode like nothing more that a collection
 of 'flash' cards...
 
 Is the scrolling problem going to be fixed, I have tried to ask a number of
 times, or just going to be quietly forgotten about ?... 
 
 from support...  I can see the bug report has been confirmed. I'm afraid I
 cannot give you any indication of when it might be fixed or what priority it
 might receive. We do not fix bugs in date order, they are assessed on a
 variety of factors. We will keep you updated on the progress of the bug
 through our system.'
 
 Will this question ever get answered... ? 
 
 
 
 
 John Dixon
 
 
  Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:05:16 +0100
  From: sebastien.no...@livecode.com
  To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; livecode-...@lists.runrev.com
  Subject: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable
  
  Dear List Members,
  
  We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 and 7.0.4. 
  This release is a stable release that is primarily a promotion of 
  respectively LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 3 and 7.0.4 RC 3, and also contains few 
  bug fixes for both versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in 
  the Release Notes.
  
  *Getting the Release*
  To get the release please select check for updates from the help 
  menu in the product or download the installer directly at: 
  http://downloads.livecode.com
  
  *6.7.5 RC 1 / 7.0.5 RC 1*
  The next cycle of 6.7 and 7.0 releases should start by the end of next 
  week. The major bug fix will be adding the possibility to use Xcode 
  6.3 to build iOS standalone applications.
  
  Warm regards,
  
  The LiveCode Team
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RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Ralph DiMola
John,

What problems are you having with native scrolling? It's not clear from the
bug report what the issue is. I use it on both mobile platforms. I have not
tested it on 7 series but it works on 6.5.5, 6.7.3 and 6.7.4v rc3. Is this a
performance or not working at all problem?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of John Dixon
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:59 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Subject: RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

How can you say this is a stable release ?

Not being able to use a 'native scroller' to scroll (see bug 15118) reduces
the making of mobile apps using liveCode like nothing more that a collection
of 'flash' cards...

Is the scrolling problem going to be fixed, I have tried to ask a number of
times, or just going to be quietly forgotten about ?... 

from support...  I can see the bug report has been confirmed. I'm afraid I
cannot give you any indication of when it might be fixed or what priority it
might receive. We do not fix bugs in date order, they are assessed on a
variety of factors. We will keep you updated on the progress of the bug
through our system.'

Will this question ever get answered... ? 




John Dixon


 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:05:16 +0100
 From: sebastien.no...@livecode.com
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; livecode-...@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable
 
 Dear List Members,
 
 We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 and 7.0.4. 
 This release is a stable release that is primarily a promotion of 
 respectively LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 3 and 7.0.4 RC 3, and also contains few 
 bug fixes for both versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in 
 the Release Notes.
 
 *Getting the Release*
 To get the release please select check for updates from the help 
 menu in the product or download the installer directly at: 
 http://downloads.livecode.com
 
 *6.7.5 RC 1 / 7.0.5 RC 1*
 The next cycle of 6.7 and 7.0 releases should start by the end of next 
 week. The major bug fix will be adding the possibility to use Xcode 
 6.3 to build iOS standalone applications.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 The LiveCode Team
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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Richmond

On 09/04/15 20:05, Richard Gaskin wrote:

John Dixon wrote:


How can you say this is a stable release ?


It would be helpful if the core dev team would help us understand the 
release process with regard to critical outstanding issues.


For example, these three issues prevent deployment of professional 
apps on Linux:


Option control labels can't be seen when they have focus
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11676
Can't paste into other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14416
Can't paste from other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13197

As John noted, other platforms also have critical outstanding issues.

As much as we appreciate the steady stream of new builds, the feedback 
I see throughout the community is that we'd very much prefer longer RC 
periods in favor of fewer Stable releases that address a larger 
number of critical issues.




That, Richard Gaskin, is exactly what has to be said!

Thank you very much indeed.

Richmond.

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RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread John Dixon
How can you say this is a stable release ?

Not being able to use a 'native scroller' to scroll (see bug 15118) reduces the 
making of mobile apps using liveCode like nothing more that a collection of 
'flash' cards...

Is the scrolling problem going to be fixed, I have tried to ask a number of 
times, or just going to be quietly forgotten about ?... 

from support...  I can see the bug report has been confirmed. I'm afraid I 
cannot give you any indication of when it might be fixed or what priority it 
might receive. We do not fix bugs in date order, they are assessed on a variety 
of factors. We will keep you updated on the progress of the bug through our 
system.'

Will this question ever get answered... ? 




John Dixon


 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:05:16 +0100
 From: sebastien.no...@livecode.com
 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; livecode-...@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable
 
 Dear List Members,
 
 We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 and 7.0.4. This 
 release is a stable release that is primarily a promotion of 
 respectively LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 3 and 7.0.4 RC 3, and also contains few 
 bug fixes for both versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in the 
 Release Notes.
 
 *Getting the Release*
 To get the release please select check for updates from the help 
 menu in the product or download the installer directly at: 
 http://downloads.livecode.com
 
 *6.7.5 RC 1 / 7.0.5 RC 1*
 The next cycle of 6.7 and 7.0 releases should start by the end of next 
 week. The major bug fix will be adding the possibility to use Xcode 6.3 
 to build iOS standalone applications.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 The LiveCode Team
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RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread John Dixon
Jacque...

This is my experience on iOS... 

John Dixon

 On 4/9/2015 1:15 PM, John Dixon wrote:
  Let's look at it another way... scrollers were working to scroll groups... 
  now they don't
 
 Is this only on iOS? I'm scrolling groups in Android okay using native 
 scrollers.
 
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Re: Database error?

2015-04-09 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Graham,

i just did a quick test on Diesel, which is the server where your account is 
hosted, and DB connections are working. 

Maybe a dumb question, but are you in any case trying to connect to the MySQL 
DB from your Livecode App/IDE ?

If so you need to

1. configure „Remote MySQL  “ in cPanel to allow the remote access to 
your DB.

2. use the following servername for connection  YOURACCOUNTNAME.on-rev.com
if using localhost for the server the LC app/IDE tries to connect to a 
MySQL DB on your computer instead of connecting to your On-Rev MySQL DB.

Warning: Please be aware that configuring remoteAccess for MySQL for your 
on-rev account  is a security risk and should be avoided.


If you tried to connect from a LC server script then either your script is 
wrong or the On-Rev server is having some problems, maybe only with your 
account.

Try the following script. Create a file e.g. dbtest.lc, put the sample script 
into it and upload it to your public_html folder and open it in your browser:

http://YOURACCOUNTNAME.on-rev.com/dbtest.lc

 If the output is a number then connection works, otherwise you will see an 
error message in your browser


?rev
set the errormode to inline
put revopendatabase(MYSQL,localhost“,YOURDBANME“,“YOURDBUSERNAME not your 
accountname“,“YOURDBUSER PASSWORD) into tDBID
put tdBID 
 repeat for each item i in revopendatabases()
   revclosedatabase i
end repeat
?


Regards,

Matthias


 Am 08.04.2015 um 20:28 schrieb Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com:
 
 Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock'

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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread sebastien

On 09/04/2015 18:05, Richard Gaskin wrote:

John Dixon wrote:


How can you say this is a stable release ?


It would be helpful if the core dev team would help us understand the 
release process with regard to critical outstanding issues.
Our view on the promotion of 6.7.4 and 7.0.4 as Stable versions is to 
let users who only use the stable releases, to get over the 
impossibility to use Xcode 6.2 to build iOS, standalone applications.


We are aware of the critical issues reported through BugZilla, and 
several members of the core team are fully devoted to fixing them. As 
some of you may know, as developers, fixing bugs is usually a long task. 
Be sure that we are doing our best to reduce the impact of the deep 
changes we operated on the 8 LiveCode engines (2 mobile, 3 desktop and 3 
server platforms) over the last 2 years.
As much as we appreciate the steady stream of new builds, the feedback 
I see throughout the community is that we'd very much prefer longer RC 
periods in favor of fewer Stable releases that address a larger 
number of critical issues.


We also listen to the community; thank you Richard for your feedback 
over the RC length.
6.7.5 and 7.0.5 will most likely stay longer at an RC state, to build up 
a LiveCode version more wildly considered as stable by the community 
(unless Apple's update to Xcode 6.3 eventually requires another release 
for the widest public).


Warm regards,

The LiveCode Team

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RE: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread John Dixon
Sebastien...

  John Dixon wrote:
 
  How can you say this is a stable release ?

You have not answered the question that I posed in the first post of this 
thread...

Let's look at it another way... scrollers were working to scroll groups... now 
they don't, so I think that it is fair to assume that something is broken... I 
also think that it is fair to assume that something like this should be fixed 
as quickly as possible... you broke it, I think you should fix it... as people 
plan to use the tools that are in the toolkit...


 Our view on the promotion of 6.7.4 and 7.0.4 as Stable versions is to 
 let users who only use the stable releases, to get over the 
 impossibility to use Xcode 6.2 to build iOS, standalone applications.
 
 We are aware of the critical issues reported through BugZilla, and 
 several members of the core team are fully devoted to fixing them. As 
 some of you may know, as developers, fixing bugs is usually a long task. 
 Be sure that we are doing our best to reduce the impact of the deep 
 changes we operated on the 8 LiveCode engines (2 mobile, 3 desktop and 3 
 server platforms) over the last 2 years.

Let me ask my question another way... Do you consider the inability to scroll 
groups under 6.7.4  7.0.4 to be critical ?... Do you intend to fix this 
quickly, to get back to how things were... or am I to be left in the dark, not 
knowing when scrollers might be able to be used again ?  

I need to know when this will be fixed... Surely, you don't expect that I  just 
sit and wait in a 'repeat forever' loop... ?
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15118


 We also listen to the community; thank you Richard for your feedback 
 over the RC length.
 6.7.5 and 7.0.5 will most likely stay longer at an RC state, to build up 
 a LiveCode version more wildly considered as stable by the community 
 (unless Apple's update to Xcode 6.3 eventually requires another release 
 for the widest public).
 
 Warm regards,
 
 The LiveCode Team
  
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Re: Database error?

2015-04-09 Thread Graham Samuel
Shawn, when I create a database from my cPanel, I am NOT asked to set a 
password for it. I am asked for a password for each user, and I am beginning to 
understand that users can be attached to one or more databases, and presumably 
this is how databases are controlled. But I emphatically have not seen a dialog 
or a field asking me for a password for the database itself. As I can’t put 
attachments on this list, i have simply made the test again (log in to cPanel, 
go to ‘mySQL databases’, click on ‘create database’ - the name had to begin 
with my On-Rev name and an underscore), and I confirm that the database is 
created with no password anywhere. I know that the Joomla database connection 
process thinks that my database has a password, but the only passwords I have 
are for the users and the cPanel itself.

Puzzled

Graham

PS  I have asked lots of questions about this and have now received lots of 
answers, which I’m working through. I promise to report all my results to this 
list and to the people who helped me off-list as well. I really do appreciate 
all the help I’m getting.


 On 8 Apr 2015, at 22:29, shawnlc shawn...@me.com wrote:
 
 Let me add this too.  In Cpanel when you create a database, you're asked to
 1) create a database, 2) create a username and password for that database,
 and 3) assign a username to that database.  This isn't necessarily the same
 as your Cpanel login, but can be if that's how you create your database. And
 as I mentioned previously, when connecting to MySQL it's username_database
 then your password. Of course you need your domain info.
 
 
 
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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Gaskin

John Dixon wrote:


How can you say this is a stable release ?


It would be helpful if the core dev team would help us understand the 
release process with regard to critical outstanding issues.


For example, these three issues prevent deployment of professional apps 
on Linux:


Option control labels can't be seen when they have focus
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11676
Can't paste into other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14416
Can't paste from other programs:
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13197

As John noted, other platforms also have critical outstanding issues.

As much as we appreciate the steady stream of new builds, the feedback I 
see throughout the community is that we'd very much prefer longer RC 
periods in favor of fewer Stable releases that address a larger number 
of critical issues.


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Re: Release 6.7.4 Stable / 7.0.4 Stable

2015-04-09 Thread Mark Talluto
On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:05 AM, sebastien sebastien.no...@livecode.com wrote:

 Dear List Members,
 
 We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7.4 and 7.0.4. This 
 release is a stable release that is primarily a promotion of respectively 
 LiveCode 6.7.4 RC 3 and 7.0.4 RC 3, and also contains few bug fixes for both 
 versions. The list of bugs fixed can be found in the Release Notes.


Congratulations LiveCode. Both of these updates are highly appreciated. 


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com
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