Re: [ANN] Yosemite Styles Window Plugin (free)
If only we could build from LC as Android Widgets, this would be perfect for that use case. On Apr 29, 2015 2:31 AM, Rolf Kocherhans rolf.kocherh...@id.uzh.ch wrote: Hello Everyone… I totally forgot to mention… To create custom shape windows in general is easy, but it is not easy to create custom shape windows which retain their shape on their corners while resizing ! If you use a fixed picture as windowShape and enlarge the window then the whole window gets terribly distorted. Bernd and I found a way to overcome just that :-) - this is probably the main attraction of this Plugin ! Regards Rolf So, I decided to create a Plugin, that creates such windows with the windowShape technique myself... I had many problems with stack resizing and some other routines, luckily I could get Bernd into the boat :-) - he and I made this Plugin together ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Yosemite Styles Window Plugin (free)
Hello Everyone… I totally forgot to mention… To create custom shape windows in general is easy, but it is not easy to create custom shape windows which retain their shape on their corners while resizing ! If you use a fixed picture as windowShape and enlarge the window then the whole window gets terribly distorted. Bernd and I found a way to overcome just that :-) - this is probably the main attraction of this Plugin ! Regards Rolf So, I decided to create a Plugin, that creates such windows with the windowShape technique myself... I had many problems with stack resizing and some other routines, luckily I could get Bernd into the boat :-) - he and I made this Plugin together ! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need Help With FTP
Hi Mark, Richard and Dr. Hawkins, Much obliged for all the tips. Gregory ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Substack vs. Library Stack
I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
HTML5...
Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. thanks, Glen ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HTML5...
On 29/04/15 22:09, Kevin Miller wrote: Should have something more to announce in this soon. Lovely! On 29 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 29/04/15 19:17, Glen Bojsza wrote: Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. thanks, Glen ___ It is very odd that having run that Kickstarter campaign we have heard nothing about the HTML5 thing at all. http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=3cad=rjauact=8ved=0CC0QFjACurl=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTake_the_Money_and_Runei=gytBVc_MJoXsmAW00oGICAusg=AFQjCNEevVZQoPBsvRM45zUz2Gbx7ZHBNQbvm=bv.92189499,d.dGY But, Hey, I'm waiting for a good few things from the Open Source Kickstarter which seem to have fallen by the wayside . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HTML5...
Should have something more to announce in this soon. On 29 Apr 2015, at 20:06, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 29/04/15 19:17, Glen Bojsza wrote: Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. thanks, Glen ___ It is very odd that having run that Kickstarter campaign we have heard nothing about the HTML5 thing at all. http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=3cad=rjauact=8ved=0CC0QFjACurl=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTake_the_Money_and_Runei=gytBVc_MJoXsmAW00oGICAusg=AFQjCNEevVZQoPBsvRM45zUz2Gbx7ZHBNQbvm=bv.92189499,d.dGY But, Hey, I'm waiting for a good few things from the Open Source Kickstarter which seem to have fallen by the wayside . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is driving the MB of a stack?
Hi David, Another issue could be a resource fork. If you're on a Mac and have pasted a desktop icon into Finder's About box for the stack, that pasted image becomes one or more resources in the resource fork. If you delete the resources you don't want, stack bloat will decrease. Here's a little tool you can use to review and remove resources from a resource fork: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxgxp35wfm53rz5/Resource%20Manager.livecode?dl=0 Phil Davis On 4/29/15 7:07 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: An issue that has been discussed in the past might be unplaced groups -- groups that have been created at some time but aren't being used in the stack. Here's one thread: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-settin g-in-a-stand-alone-td4687858i40.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 6:21 AM,dfepst...@comcast.net dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: A stack I have gradually improved over several years now occupies 4 MB on disk, whereas for a long time it was more like 500 KB. Is there some way to diagnose what elements are causing this? I'd like to generate a list of all of the stack's substacks, cards, fields, images, scripts, etc., and see the amount of stack space each is occupying. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
Another thing about libraries: they can have substacks if needed. Of course, substacks can't. Phil Davis On 4/29/15 10:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HTML5...
On 4/29/2015 12:17 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. A web deployment/build option for standalones (i.e. HTML5 and the crowdfunding campaign) was communicated as being tied to or predicated on LiveCode 8. LiveCode 8 is still just in DP (developer preview) releases. As LC8 develops, I would expect RunRev to have some sort of update, but maybe not until a few more DP releases gets LC8 more stable and robust. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: mobileSound Files question
Folks: On thing that is missing in the commands for the mobileSound commands is a way to determine the length of a sound file. I can pretty much live with the limitations that I see so far, but it is going to be a kludge to determine the play time of a sound file. Also, the player is AVFoundation on iOS too?? Why are the number of commands that can be given to the mobile player so limited? Seems being able to duplicate the desktop player functionality would be very useful. Or are there other ways of playing sounds that have the more expanded functionality? Regards, Bill On Apr 28, 2015, at 5:12 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Folks: I have my 3 sound files playing fine on the iOS simulator. But, is it possible to get other file parameters like the play time, or set the location to start play? This is possible on desktop player, but I don’t see any commands for this in the dictionary. Or do I need to use one of Monte’s externals to get that functionality? Best, Bill William A. Prothero http://es.earthednet.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HTML5...
On 29/04/15 19:17, Glen Bojsza wrote: Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. thanks, Glen ___ It is very odd that having run that Kickstarter campaign we have heard nothing about the HTML5 thing at all. http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=3cad=rjauact=8ved=0CC0QFjACurl=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FTake_the_Money_and_Runei=gytBVc_MJoXsmAW00oGICAusg=AFQjCNEevVZQoPBsvRM45zUz2Gbx7ZHBNQbvm=bv.92189499,d.dGY But, Hey, I'm waiting for a good few things from the Open Source Kickstarter which seem to have fallen by the wayside . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
Scott: I use substacks as code libraries in a large project. The substack handlers are callable (without specifying the substack name) from any other substack and also from the main stack. It is like having a giant stack script. Of course, you have to “Start using mySubstack” to make the code available. You can also remove the substack and use it elsewhere and attach it to another main stack by setting its mainStack property. e.g. set the mainStack of this stack to “myMainStack”. I find it very convenient. But, as I get more familiar with Livecode, I’ll like the libraries approach. Best, Bill On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Another thing about libraries: they can have substacks if needed. Of course, substacks can't. Phil Davis On 4/29/15 10:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Displaying a stack as sheet
Hi, I’m wanting to display a stack as a sheet. It shows help text over the current card. This is a cross-platform application for Mac and Windows desktop. The stack has a field for the help text, an image, and a button to click on to hide the sheet. I’ve got it to show correctly on my Mac, but: 1. How do I dismiss it? Clicking on the button to send a message “hide stack tStack” doesn’t do it. A script in the button to “exit…”? 2. On Windows I understand it will show as a modal dialog. Does this mean there will be a standard “Cancel” button added on automatically? Will the size of the stack be maintained along with control placement? The dictionary is kind of vague about this… Peter Bogdanoff UCLA ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Displaying a stack as sheet
Thanks Pete! That did it. Peter On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: close this stack. I don't think there's any standard close button added for windows, you'd use the same mechanism as OSX Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Hi, I’m wanting to display a stack as a sheet. It shows help text over the current card. This is a cross-platform application for Mac and Windows desktop. The stack has a field for the help text, an image, and a button to click on to hide the sheet. I’ve got it to show correctly on my Mac, but: 1. How do I dismiss it? Clicking on the button to send a message “hide stack tStack” doesn’t do it. A script in the button to “exit…”? 2. On Windows I understand it will show as a modal dialog. Does this mean there will be a standard “Cancel” button added on automatically? Will the size of the stack be maintained along with control placement? The dictionary is kind of vague about this… Peter Bogdanoff UCLA ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
Hi Bill: When you start using stack xyz... you are using it as a library stack :-) See the docs under start using or the library command. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 1:37 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Scott: I use substacks as code libraries in a large project. The substack handlers are callable (without specifying the substack name) from any other substack and also from the main stack. It is like having a giant stack script. Of course, you have to ³Start using mySubstack² to make the code available. You can also remove the substack and use it elsewhere and attach it to another main stack by setting its mainStack property. e.g. set the mainStack of this stack to ³myMainStack². I find it very convenient. But, as I get more familiar with Livecode, I¹ll like the libraries approach. Best, Bill On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Another thing about libraries: they can have substacks if needed. Of course, substacks can't. Phil Davis On 4/29/15 10:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Displaying a stack as sheet
close this stack. I don't think there's any standard close button added for windows, you'd use the same mechanism as OSX Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote: Hi, I’m wanting to display a stack as a sheet. It shows help text over the current card. This is a cross-platform application for Mac and Windows desktop. The stack has a field for the help text, an image, and a button to click on to hide the sheet. I’ve got it to show correctly on my Mac, but: 1. How do I dismiss it? Clicking on the button to send a message “hide stack tStack” doesn’t do it. A script in the button to “exit…”? 2. On Windows I understand it will show as a modal dialog. Does this mean there will be a standard “Cancel” button added on automatically? Will the size of the stack be maintained along with control placement? The dictionary is kind of vague about this… Peter Bogdanoff UCLA ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Pancake down
All my On-Rev web sites have been down (on Pancake) for at least 6 hours. Have a note off to support but haven't heard anything . . . Marty K ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HTML5...
So has HTML5 been seen in the current DP versions Livecode 8? On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Paul Dupuis p...@researchware.com wrote: On 4/29/2015 12:17 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Can someone outline what version and approximately when in the development timeline we will start being able to generate HTML5 from LC. A web deployment/build option for standalones (i.e. HTML5 and the crowdfunding campaign) was communicated as being tied to or predicated on LiveCode 8. LiveCode 8 is still just in DP (developer preview) releases. As LC8 develops, I would expect RunRev to have some sort of update, but maybe not until a few more DP releases gets LC8 more stable and robust. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
Maybe I'm confused over what you're doing but start using is how you make a stack available as a library so you're already using a library, not a substack. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:37 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Scott: I use substacks as code libraries in a large project. The substack handlers are callable (without specifying the substack name) from any other substack and also from the main stack. It is like having a giant stack script. Of course, you have to “Start using mySubstack” to make the code available. You can also remove the substack and use it elsewhere and attach it to another main stack by setting its mainStack property. e.g. set the mainStack of this stack to “myMainStack”. I find it very convenient. But, as I get more familiar with Livecode, I’ll like the libraries approach. Best, Bill On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Another thing about libraries: they can have substacks if needed. Of course, substacks can't. Phil Davis On 4/29/15 10:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Memory question active program
My guess would be that windows is swapping it out. The fix might be as simple as a send in time loop. Have it do some little bit of nothing every few minutes. (For all I know, just having the send in time refresh itself might be enough) If its the revspeak portion that is causing the issue, i'm not sure how to keep it from being swapped out, but there's probably a way. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote: I have an app which logs phone calls. It receives command line input from the phone using an on relaunch handler and updates the log display with time, date and caller name and also does a revSpeak command to announce the caller. My app works fine when launched but after some time idling there is a long delay (5 or more seconds) for it to respond. If it gets another command from the program soon it responds right away. I’m guessing something is loaded into RAM when it works quickly. After a while it is unloaded from RAM or cached and then has to reload which causes the delay. I don’t know if LiveCode is doing this or the Windows 7 PC (64bit) is. The PC has 8 GB RAM. I suspect it is the PC memory management that is doing this as LiveCode loads everything in RAM. Is there a way for me to test what is causing this? Is there a way to prevent this? Thanks, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm) RunRev lcTaskList Forum: (http://forums.runrev.com/viewforum.php?f=61) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
pancake
Hi Folks Anyone else lost a heap of data from pancake? Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
I have submitted an urgent support request On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:53 am, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Pancake problem??
Hi One of my domains on pancake has gone back in time. Website and emails have gone back to April 2014. Have sent an email to on-...@runrev.com and no reply yet. Anyone else experiencing this? regards alex ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
Yes.. me too On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:53 am, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Pancake down
Confirmed. A 13 months old backup disk seems to be running instead of the current state of all my own sites and n-tier apps. I expect that the on-rev team will get all back to normal along the next hours. Le 29 avr. 2015 à 23:08, Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com a écrit : All my On-Rev web sites have been down (on Pancake) for at least 6 hours. Have a note off to support but haven't heard anything . . . Marty K ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Substack vs. Library Stack
Peter: Ok, if that makes it a library stack, then I’m using it as a library stack. BUT, it’s also a substack. So I guess in this instance, they are the same thing, functionally at least. One of the nice differences is I don’t have to provide a file path to the start using command. Don’t know if libraries require this, because I haven’t really tried to use “Libraries” per se. Best, Bill On Apr 29, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: Maybe I'm confused over what you're doing but start using is how you make a stack available as a library so you're already using a library, not a substack. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:37 PM, William Prothero proth...@earthednet.org wrote: Scott: I use substacks as code libraries in a large project. The substack handlers are callable (without specifying the substack name) from any other substack and also from the main stack. It is like having a giant stack script. Of course, you have to “Start using mySubstack” to make the code available. You can also remove the substack and use it elsewhere and attach it to another main stack by setting its mainStack property. e.g. set the mainStack of this stack to “myMainStack”. I find it very convenient. But, as I get more familiar with Livecode, I’ll like the libraries approach. Best, Bill On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: Another thing about libraries: they can have substacks if needed. Of course, substacks can't. Phil Davis On 4/29/15 10:36 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: I imagine you'll get a lot of responses to this, but one reason to use a library is its code is available to all open stacks in LC: functions, commands, etc. Sort of like having a backscript for all open stacks, instead of just one. A substack doesn't do this. Another frame of reference that might help is the difference between behaviors and libraries: code in behaviors is object-specific, available only to those objects that have the behavior assigned to them, while code in libraries is universal, available to all objects anywhere, and doesn't require any assignment. Other people will probably chime in with additional insights. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 9:56 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: I have not read a straight answer on this, yet. Library stacks vs. substacks why use one vs. the other? I don't see any clear advantage to Libraries, per se, even for...libraries. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
Yeah…. ditto. sigh On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: pancake
Yup. And Wordpress has reverted back to 3.8.7 (current version is 4.2.1) I've also lost my SSL certificate so people trying to buy stuff are getting the Untrusted Site warning. My sites were down for pretty much the whole day. :( Marty K Hi Folks Anyone else lost a heap of data from pancake? Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: pancake
Just got this from David so they are on it: There was an issue with the filesystem on pancake.on-rev.com http://pancake.on-rev.com/ this evening, and after having repaired the filesystem we have seen some instances of erroneously placed or missing data. I am currently investigating and running scripts to restore the system, but we do maintain a full backup of all our data. If you have data that you require access to immediately, let me know and I can retrieve this from the backup server amd place it in the specified location. I am currently assessing the situation and will ensure that if any data is not recovered after my investigation, it is restored from the backup. I apologize for this disruption to your service. Let me know if you require any further assistance right now and I will get back to you as soon as possible. On 30 Apr 2015, at 9:57 am, Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com wrote: Yup. And Wordpress has reverted back to 3.8.7 (current version is 4.2.1) I've also lost my SSL certificate so people trying to buy stuff are getting the Untrusted Site warning. My sites were down for pretty much the whole day. :( Marty K Hi Folks Anyone else lost a heap of data from pancake? Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding http://goulding.ws/ Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt http://mergext.com/ - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is driving the MB of a stack?
An issue that has been discussed in the past might be unplaced groups -- groups that have been created at some time but aren't being used in the stack. Here's one thread: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-settin g-in-a-stand-alone-td4687858i40.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 6:21 AM, dfepst...@comcast.net dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: A stack I have gradually improved over several years now occupies 4 MB on disk, whereas for a long time it was more like 500 KB. Is there some way to diagnose what elements are causing this? I'd like to generate a list of all of the stack's substacks, cards, fields, images, scripts, etc., and see the amount of stack space each is occupying. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
What is driving the MB of a stack?
A stack I have gradually improved over several years now occupies 4 MB on disk, whereas for a long time it was more like 500 KB. Is there some way to diagnose what elements are causing this? I'd like to generate a list of all of the stack's substacks, cards, fields, images, scripts, etc., and see the amount of stack space each is occupying. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stack is Dirty?
Peter M. Brigham wrote: Is there any message sent in LC when the cursor moves into the titlebar of a stack? It occurs to me that this would be a good trigger for checking the modifiedMark to indicate the need for saving. The closeStackRequest method is provided for that purpose. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stack is Dirty?
A moment ago I wrote: The closeStackRequest method is provided for that purpose. Pardon the typo - I do know what language we're talking about here, honestly I do. :) Of course I meant message there, not method. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
Some of my restored files are dated back to the beginning of 2014 (no where near current), old serial numbers for my products that have already been issued, product links that are over a year old (and thus broken). You've got to be kidding me. I now have no idea what I have. What a mess. Marty K Yeah…. ditto. sigh On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is driving the MB of a stack?
Thanks to Scott Rossi for calling my attention to “unplaced groups,” which seem important enough to be better known. I found and purged a few of these, but trimmed only a few KB off my 4.3 MB stack, which still seems much larger than its (known) content can explain. Are there any other ways of diagnosing what’s going on? David Epstein An issue that has been discussed in the past might be unplaced groups -- groups that have been created at some time but aren't being used in the stack. Here's one thread: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-settin http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-settin g-in-a-stand-alone-td4687858i40.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 6:21 AM, dfepst...@comcast.net mailto:dfepst...@comcast.net dfepst...@comcast.net mailto:dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: A stack I have gradually improved over several years now occupies 4 MB on disk, whereas for a long time it was more like 500 KB. Is there some way to diagnose what elements are causing this? I'd like to generate a list of all of the stack's substacks, cards, fields, images, scripts, etc., and see the amount of stack space each is occupying. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Keeping a mobile app alive
By default, iOS will dim the screen and eventually lock the device after periods of no user interaction. To control this behavior, use the following commands: iphoneLockIdleTimer iphoneUnlockIdleTimer Subject: Keeping a mobile app alive From: proth...@earthednet.org Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 22:04:11 -0700 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com I have a mobile app that will be playing a long audio file. Is there a way to keep the application from going inactive when the device goes into sleep mode? On my iPad, after a period of no user activity, the screen goes black and the audio ceases. Is there a way to prevent this from happening? Google has been no help and I can't find anything in the user guide, or the dictionary. Perhaps there is a syntax I haven't thought of. Regards, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Memory question active program
I have an app which logs phone calls. It receives command line input from the phone using an on relaunch handler and updates the log display with time, date and caller name and also does a revSpeak command to announce the caller. My app works fine when launched but after some time idling there is a long delay (5 or more seconds) for it to respond. If it gets another command from the program soon it responds right away. I’m guessing something is loaded into RAM when it works quickly. After a while it is unloaded from RAM or cached and then has to reload which causes the delay. I don’t know if LiveCode is doing this or the Windows 7 PC (64bit) is. The PC has 8 GB RAM. I suspect it is the PC memory management that is doing this as LiveCode loads everything in RAM. Is there a way for me to test what is causing this? Is there a way to prevent this? Thanks, Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. lcTaskList: (http://www.infowallet.com/lctasklist/index.htm) RunRev lcTaskList Forum: (http://forums.runrev.com/viewforum.php?f=61) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Keeping a mobile app alive
I have a mobile app that will be playing a long audio file. Is there a way to keep the application from going inactive when the device goes into sleep mode? On my iPad, after a period of no user activity, the screen goes black and the audio ceases. Is there a way to prevent this from happening? Google has been no help and I can't find anything in the user guide, or the dictionary. Perhaps there is a syntax I haven't thought of. Regards, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
Hmm, I'm worried about my emails for the affected domain. Because I primarily use SMTP, if they restore back to a certain point what will happen to all the emails which have already come in? Should I be doing local backups of everyone's new emails now, as they come in? Messy indeed. I really hope these magic scripts they're working on do the job. Been interesting though to see the state of the site over a year ago. regards alex On 30/04/2015 10:49 am, Marty Knapp wrote: Some of my restored files are dated back to the beginning of 2014 (no where near current), old serial numbers for my products that have already been issued, product links that are over a year old (and thus broken). You've got to be kidding me. I now have no idea what I have. What a mess. Marty K Yeah…. ditto. sigh On Apr 29, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Just noticed that my site hosted at the on-rev server Pancake shows now old data from 2014. My complete new site including my file uploads dissapeared. Is there someone else with that problem or am i the only one? Seems an old backup was restored. Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is driving the MB of a stack?
Make a copy of your stack. If the copy contains multiple cards, delete card by card (within reason) and check file size . If it's a single card stack, delete object-by-object. You say you went through unplaced groups, but you might also try deleting everything in the stack, and seeing what the single card stack weighs in at. If it's high, it most likely contains unplaced groups and/or custom properties with large data. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 6:48 PM, David Epstein dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks to Scott Rossi for calling my attention to ³unplaced groups,² which seem important enough to be better known. I found and purged a few of these, but trimmed only a few KB off my 4.3 MB stack, which still seems much larger than its (known) content can explain. Are there any other ways of diagnosing what¹s going on? David Epstein An issue that has been discussed in the past might be unplaced groups -- groups that have been created at some time but aren't being used in the stack. Here's one thread: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-sett in http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Storing-and-saving-a-sett in g-in-a-stand-alone-td4687858i40.html Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 4/29/15, 6:21 AM, dfepst...@comcast.net mailto:dfepst...@comcast.net dfepst...@comcast.net mailto:dfepst...@comcast.net wrote: A stack I have gradually improved over several years now occupies 4 MB on disk, whereas for a long time it was more like 500 KB. Is there some way to diagnose what elements are causing this? I'd like to generate a list of all of the stack's substacks, cards, fields, images, scripts, etc., and see the amount of stack space each is occupying. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: On-Rev server Pancake problems - old backup restored?
I have a life-time subscription to on-rev, but it's times like this that scare the heck out of me to use it. I use it primarily for testing. I'm on pancake too, and I confirm that it's been down. I haven't looked into it, but surely the brilliant guys gals at RunRev could be running state of the art servers, instant notifications any time something goes beyond a threshold, down, etc. IMHO on-rev is treated like a hobby and they get to it when they get to it. Come on, some of the most brilliant minds in the world sit there in Edinburgh yet you have single server down for several hours. I don't get it. Even my not so brilliant self ran a 10 server hosting business at one time and never experienced such downtime, one customer was doing $100k a day in transactions. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/On-Rev-server-Pancake-problems-old-backup-restored-tp4691642p4691654.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: What is driving the MB of a stack?
David Epstein wrote: ... trimmed only a few KB off my 4.3 MB stack, which still seems much larger than its (known) content can explain. Are there any other ways of diagnosing what’s going on? Look for things that can't be seen. :) That is, if your stack was full of high-res graphics you'd be looking at them and wouldn't have needed to write here, so now the task is to find less visible elements. Do you have any hidden fields, or custom properties, in which you may have stored data you had intended to remove? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stack is Dirty?
I cannot see my own replies sometimes. Did this kluge get through on mouseLeave if the top of this stack - item 2 of the screenmouseLoc 4 then answer You have gone through the roof end mouseLeave Craig -Original Message- From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wed, Apr 29, 2015 10:48 am Subject: Re: Stack is Dirty? A moment ago I wrote: The closeStackRequest method is provided for that purpose. Pardon the typo - I do know what language we're talking about here, honestly I do. :) Of course I meant message there, not method. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
