BAF and other things - I am confused...
I didn’t wanna chime in into all those discussions, but I am totally confused by the LiveCode mothership recently, and I have to now. I am confused with the new BAF License and all the talk about SVN. It is very clear to me that SVN does make a lot of sense to everyone. Therefore I programmed a plugin and made it available to all for free already in 2012 ( http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/669/Kochi-Mini-SVN-Installer ). Monte also had a go at the subject in a much more professional way ! Now when I read about Business App Framework features here: https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/ it says: —- The BAF separates out parts of a project into individual files, with template definitions and scripts stored as text. —- Is this not what SVN needs ? Can we now all stop talking about creating an SVN Plugin or beg LiveCode to incorporate SVN into the IDE because we now just need to buy the Business Edition since all the work is already done ? And if it is not so, can someone from the Mothership please show us in a Movie or similar way what the BAF exactly does ?! How could one decide to buy or not to buy it when we know so little about it. Second question: The new Widgets and the new LiveCode Builder language, when and how do we get more information about how to use the Language ? I had a look at all the movies and blog posts, but to be honest, for me the present info is not at all enough to feel confident that I can create widgets on my own ! Can the mothership please chime in ? Cheers Rolf ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Restore corrupted stack
On 8/18/2015 12:44 AM, Peter Bogdanoff wrote: I saw this sort of corruption in the past (LC 5 or 6) where a stack functions correctly as far as I could tell while it is open. When it is closed and reopened the corruption message appears. In my case, I left the LC 7 stack open for some days, while making backups from the Finder. Not until I quit and reopened it did I find out it was bad. Now you've got me worried. I've been working on a LC 7 stack for days too without closing it. Please send your corrupted stack to the QCC so they can fix it before it happens to me too. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
Hello Peter, Any chance of some basic improvements like edit bookmarks, or find and replace in text selections, with better keyboard shortcuts before Intelligent Code Completion? Peter TB Brett said: My *guess* is that we'll have something basic out by the end of the year -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
Am 18.08.2015 um 04:45 schrieb Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com: There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could fulfil all of the rewards without actually having to complete the project. The rewards consisted of gifts and existing LiveCode products. In one sense, LiveCode completed the Kickstarter campaign when all the rewards had been delivered. I’m sure that Kickstarter would take this view. But then the Kickstarter campaign is not yet completed. ;) The printed dictionary reward was not yet sent. Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
If your app includes FOSS, it must not cause any non-FOSS Microsoft software to become subject to the terms of any FOSS license. Although Microsoft didn't name it, it's talking about GPL. But is it? GPL v2 and v3 are both on the OSI list of approved licenses (whatever that means; OSI is a much younger org than FSF, and while I appreciate their work and tend toward their politics more than the FSF's, naming their list Approved complicates things unnecessarily, and IMNSHO smacks of simple granstanding). I think the writer is a bit off here, and maybe Microsoft is reiterating something that should be obvious, but for some may not be. My read on this is that you can use any of these licenses, but regardless, you understand that your license cannot effectively create an unauthorized sublicense of a non FOSS whatever as a FOSS whatever. For example, you cannot use my closed source component in your FOSS project and therefore sublicense and release my closed source component as FOSS. Or am I misreading this? Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Business Reports Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
Richard said: All the cool new greenfield stuff will be just a playground for an aging audience of a fixed size if newcomers are disappointed with very basic essentials. That's the thing, because I know how *awesome* LiveCode is, I have been willing to put up with the IDE as it stands. Then the Kickstarter Campaign reached the target, and gave me hope that the IDE would improve. But when LiveCode 8.0 DP came along (and internal debugging code notwithstanding) it is disappointing. I was under the false impressions that after putting up with 7.0, version 8.0 was to be the good one. But no, it is even slower and it feels like it is conspiring to waste my time when I try to do tests as have to watch as menus redraw, the editor scrolling, or I am waiting for the text cursor to appear. Richard said: If I were running the show (and there are many reasons most people are glad I'm not) I'd take my best engineers and put them on the script editor full-time until it's clean, robust, and performant. Wise words. If the LiveCode tech blog had periodic updates about this sort of work (not the you won't believe the amazing things we have for you in the future type) and DP builds so we can test and feedback, then I would feel much more easy about the direction and ability of LiveCode to deliver. -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD -Version 4 The first thing to note is that LiveCode Ltd has open-sourced LiveCode under the GPL licence. It is freely accessible on Github. The second thing to note is that the majority of the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. Only delivery of printed copies of a new updated dictionary after final Kickstarter project delivery remains to be completed. There seems to have been three other major deliverables promised in the main campaign: Deliverable Status Re-engineer the whole platform Completed A new technology: “Open Language” Early alpha of the pre-requisite LiveCode Builder released (LiveCode 8.0) Open Language will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 A new visual editor Early alpha released (LiveCode 8.0) There were a number of deliverables promised through stretch goals which were met: Deliverable Status Resolution Independence Completed Pluggable ThemesPluggable Themes will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Cocoa Completed Physics Engine Physics Engine will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Windows/Phone 8 Theme Windows/Phone 8 Theme will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Vector Shape Object Vector Shape Object will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Reworked Multimedia Support New Player Completed on OS X. Windows in release LiveCode 8.0. Linux ??? Multi Channel Sound OS X : Linux : Windows ??? Sound Recording ??? New Browser Control OS X, Windows completed. Linux with LiveCode 8.0 I’d appreciate if somebody could let me know the status of the items about which I’m unclear and any mistakes I have made. Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
Matthias On 18 Aug 2015, at 14:32, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Am 18.08.2015 um 04:45 schrieb Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com: There have been quite a few comments and clearly a number of different views amongst members of the community. I would like to add my perspective. The LiveCode Kickstarter campaign was very unusual in that the LiveCode could fulfil all of the rewards without actually having to complete the project. The rewards consisted of gifts and existing LiveCode products. In one sense, LiveCode completed the Kickstarter campaign when all the rewards had been delivered. I’m sure that Kickstarter would take this view. But then the Kickstarter campaign is not yet completed. ;) The printed dictionary reward was not yet sent. Thanks. I missed the printed dictionary reward. New Revised PRINTED LIVECODE SYNTAX DICTIONARIES with hundreds of updated language terms after final Kickstarter project delivery” So I was wrong and the rewards were connected to the project after all. I wonder what “the final Kickstarter project delivery” means in practical terms. All stretch goals completed? I will update my report card. Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
On 18 Aug 2015, at 13:33, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: If Kevin made me IDE Czar […] I, for one, welcome our new IDE overlord ;) Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
On 18/08/15 06:58, RunRevPlanet wrote: Peter said: I have no doubt that these promises were very genuine. Clearly, LiveCode hasn’t been able to deliver them in the time they expected. I never doubt the sincerity of LiveCode Ltd. and the team behind it. I don't think anyone is impugning LiveCode's sincerity, but actions and intentions are not the same thing. I do feel that somehow, LiveCode is behaving like a lot of children trying to be terribly grownup and not managing it. The 'main problem' as I see it does NOT have to do with the Kickstarter, the goals, the stretch goals, the BAF, or anything at all like that. What is a problem is the way LiveCode come across in their publicity stuff they keep e-mailing us: it appears arrogant, inconsiderate, and most decisions they have taken are inadequately explained (otherwise we wouldn't have had a gazillion postings about this recently). I do feel that all the Kickstarter donors, at the very least, deserve more comprehensive and well-thought out explanations of decisions taken by LiveCode central, and those who hold commercial licences probably deserve more. Hence my remark recently (which nobody commented on) that LiveCode might do well to hire a PR officer to do the PR and let the clever programming boffins get on with developing LiveCode. Let's have some 'fun': 1. From now on children who don't do their homework at my school will be sent home forthwith, on the understanding that if they appear at the next class without the homework they will simply be ejected again. I will shout at them, hurl their books across the room and do my best to make them realise what stupid little sh*ts they are in front of the other children. 2. Unfortunately there has been an increase in children coming to classes without their homework. In an attempt to rectify this problem I will ask children who come without homework to sit in the entrance hall and do that homework. Obviously this is not really satisfactory as they will miss the teaching that takes place while they complete work they should have done at home. I would be grateful if parents could explain this to children, and while I realise that all parents lead busy lives, do their best to ensure their children do do the small amount of homework they are given. Now those 2 paragraphs are theoretical messages I could send to parents of children who attend my school. I am sure that everybody will realise that #2 is a far better way of dealing with the situation, as well as the fact that it is couched in more tactful language. But when a major feature which would be a tangible improvement for *everyone* using LiveCode is pushed to the end of the roadmap it is frustrating. Indeed, and if LiveCode could give us some sort of a GANTT chart that was regularly updated so that each of us could see how each of her/his pet stretch goals was coming along that might make things less frustrating. Certainly one of the things I understand about Open Source is 'Open' and that means not hiding one's light under a bushel, and some sort of accountability. * First it was open source that was going to help make the Next Generation IDE. * Then it was the magic of widgets that would boost productivity. * But I later discover the LiveCode Builder language needs to be finished to empower widgets and IDE. 2 years after the projected completion of all the goals and stretch goals and many are coming after LiveCode 8 does make one wonder. * In the meantime, LiveCode HTML 5 deployment is also coming, soon... Here is my point and regret: every month that a new user downloads LiveCode, plays with the IDE, and then leaves (likely never return) and laughs with her colleagues about a code editor that doesn't have bookmarks or search and replace in selected text, is a month wasted in building up the LiveCode user base. Forget the big plans and clever stuff like code completion or code tips, just deliver basic functionality that should be standard in any IDE worthy of he name Integrated Development Environment straight out of the box and then maybe the tire kickers will stay and the number of users grow. -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
You'd think that a software company would make the dictionary available as a searchable e-book too, if not an actual mobile app for all supported platforms, and made with LiveCode itself. On Aug 18, 2015 3:22 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD -Version 4 The first thing to note is that LiveCode Ltd has open-sourced LiveCode under the GPL licence. It is freely accessible on Github. The second thing to note is that the majority of the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. Only delivery of printed copies of a new updated dictionary after final Kickstarter project delivery remains to be completed. There seems to have been three other major deliverables promised in the main campaign: Deliverable Status Re-engineer the whole platform Completed A new technology: “Open Language” Early alpha of the pre-requisite LiveCode Builder released (LiveCode 8.0) Open Language will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 A new visual editor Early alpha released (LiveCode 8.0) There were a number of deliverables promised through stretch goals which were met: Deliverable Status Resolution Independence Completed Pluggable ThemesPluggable Themes will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Cocoa Completed Physics Engine Physics Engine will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Windows/Phone 8 Theme Windows/Phone 8 Theme will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Vector Shape Object Vector Shape Object will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Reworked Multimedia Support New Player Completed on OS X. Windows in release LiveCode 8.0. Linux ??? Multi Channel Sound OS X : Linux : Windows ??? Sound Recording ??? New Browser Control OS X, Windows completed. Linux with LiveCode 8.0 I’d appreciate if somebody could let me know the status of the items about which I’m unclear and any mistakes I have made. Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
On 18/08/15 05:12, Peter W A Wood wrote: I have updated my KickStarter report card thanks to the information about the new player for Windows being planned for LiveCode 8.0 that Tom Bodine kindly provided. As I understand, the phrase “new visual editor” refers to the new IDE. LIVECODE KICKSTARTER REPORT CARD The first thing to note is that all the Kickstarter rewards have been delivered. There seems to have been three major deliverables promised in the main campaign: Deliverable Status Re-engineer the whole platform Completed A new technology: “Open Language” Early alpha of the pre-requisite LiveCode Builder released (LiveCode 8.0) Open Language will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 A new visual editor Early alpha released (LiveCode 8.0) There were a number of deliverables promised through stretch goals which were met: Deliverable Status Resolution Independence Completed Pluggable ThemesPluggable Themes will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Cocoa Completed Physics Engine Physics Engine will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Windows/Phone 8 Theme Windows/Phone 8 Theme will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Vector Shape Object Vector Shape Object will be in a release after LiveCode 8.0 Reworked Multimedia Support New Player Completed on OS X. Windows in release LiveCode 8.0. Linux ??? Multi Channel Sound OS X : Linux : Windows ??? Sound Recording ??? New Browser Control OS X, Windows completed. Linux with LiveCode 8.0 I’d appreciate if somebody could let me know the status of the items about which I’m unclear and any mistakes I have made. Regards Peter Does after LiveCode 8 mean 8.1 or does it mean 9 or maybe 10? Because that could make quite a difference. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app
The server itself has to be HTTPS, for over the air installs to work on iOS 7.1 or later. On Aug 18, 2015, at 1:03 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: uses SFTP to transfer to the server? How did you do that? No, it doesn't use SFTP for the actual transfer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
On 18/08/15 03:13, Richard Gaskin wrote: RunRevPlanet wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: RunRevPlanet wrote: I understand that things take longer than expected, but when I read the Kickstarter Campaign it is clear that the new IDE is a core part of the next generation. It is not a stretch goal, and is repeatedly emphasised as a core part of the project. Why? Why do I care about a new IDE, because I know programmers who won't use LiveCode because of it. Sure, that is their loss and they miss out on the wonderful tool that is the xTalk language and LiveCode. But the fact remains that the way a new IDE was a core feature of Kickstarter Campaign acknowledges that: 1. The current IDE is less than beautiful. 2. The current IDE is not designed around today’s usability standards. I'd be interested to know where one can find these usability standards, and by whom they are authorised to be 'standards' - personally I think today's usability standards is another of those essentially empty phrases used to bully people. If by today's usability standards it is meant that LiveCode's IDE has to look like all the other IDEs out there, then it is time for everybody to standard up and say Cheese! together, as the great thing about LiveCode is that IT IS NOT THE SAME as all the other IDEs out there, and nor should it be. Being new will only guarantee that it's new, not necessarily that it will improve the workflow. improve the workflow - Ooo, another load of old testicles - I wonder who actually has a workflow? Surely one works the way one works (inefficiently, in my case) - the IDE is, after all, just the icing on the cake, and, well, yes, the Metacard IDE does leave a bit to be desired (and, Lo! Kevin worked that out donkey's years ago, and we have been through 2 fairly similar LiveCode IDEs). Now, as the LiveCode IDE is a bit like LEGO, i.e. it is made up of bits and pieces that fit together, one can monkey around with it as much as one wants to end up with a GUI one likes (I know, I've monkeyed, and anyone is welcome to one of my bananas), so the need for a new IDE/GUI is a bit unclear. What usability standards do you feel are not well reflected in the current IDE, and if Kevin made you IDE Czar tomorrow what are the first three things you'd do to fix that? If Kevin made me IDE Czar I would suggest a series of online pages to explain the current IDE far rather than make a new one. But, much as Kevin may love me (?), he is not going to make me IDE Cazr, nor would I want that job. The 'problem' is that picture linked with a promise. One cannot put the daemons back in Pandora's box. Kevin and Co. must be cursing under their collective breath about that picture. What MIGHT solve the 'problem' is a wee guide on how to muck around with the IDE/GUI so one can make a bespoke version should one so wish. Personally I just make the menuBar and the toolBar black with white text. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: BAF and other things - I am confused...
From: rolf.kocherh...@id.uzh.ch Second question: The new Widgets and the new LiveCode Builder language, when and how do we get more information about how to use the Language ? I had a look at all the movies and blog posts, but to be honest, for me the present info is not at all enough to feel confident that I can create widgets on my own ! Can the mothership please chime in ? The spec is here: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/Extending%20LiveCode.md#documentation-markup ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
Richmond Does after LiveCode 8 mean 8.1 or does it mean 9 or maybe 10? Because that could make quite a difference. It means that I don’t think it is going to be in any of the LiveCode 8.xx releases based on my memory of snippets of information on this list and in the forums. (Which could well be wrong). I didn’t know whether to use LiveCode 9 or LiveCode 10 for the major release after LiveCode 8. I remember it being mentioned by one of the LiveCode team that “Open Language” was going to be such an improvement that the release of LiveCode that included would be called LiveCode 10. (To be fair to the LiveCode team, this was said before Windows 10 was announced as the name for Windows 8 + 1). Regards Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card (Updated)
On 18/08/15 16:07, Peter W A Wood wrote: Richmond Does after LiveCode 8 mean 8.1 or does it mean 9 or maybe 10? Because that could make quite a difference. It means that I don’t think it is going to be in any of the LiveCode 8.xx releases based on my memory of snippets of information on this list and in the forums. (Which could well be wrong). I didn’t know whether to use LiveCode 9 or LiveCode 10 for the major release after LiveCode 8. I remember it being mentioned by one of the LiveCode team that “Open Language” was going to be such an improvement that the release of LiveCode that included would be called LiveCode 10. (To be fair to the LiveCode team, this was said before Windows 10 was announced as the name for Windows 8 + 1). Regards Peter Surely some mistake there, aren't we expecting LiveCode X ? That's going to be a long, long wait for some of those Kickstarter goals. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS Tab Bar Icon Limits
Will Apple reject your app if you have more than 5 items on the bottom tab bar? -- Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
No Messages Until Scroll
Greeting! I'm having an issue with a group of objects receiving a touchStart (or touchEnd, mouseUp or mouseDown) message. The problem is on iOS only (haven't tried Android yet, but works fine on the Mac). This is a group of buttons that are being scrolled by a mobile scroller. If I drag the group so it scrolls even 1 pix, then it works. If the scroller (or group) hasn't scrolled at all since it was created, no messages are getting send to the group or any objects in the group. Anyone had this problem? Or know what might be causing this? Any advice is appreciated! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Importing UTF-8 files
Should I be using file or binfile to retrieve unicode text from a UTF-8 text file? I thought I should be using binfile, but after textDecoding the data, text chunking and delimiters break when I do that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Copy and Paste from LiveCode text fld in Mobile
USE CASE: I need to offer the user the ability to copy out text on mobile (not cut) for passing to twitter or email or facebook on both iOS and Android I am using a plain text field, textContent on a single card textReader unlocked, traversal on... for importing text files to the stack for users to read... and results from searches etc. When I open in Mobile...I don't get the option, on mouse down.,where the small copy, cut widget opens in iOS... where you can drag to make a selection... this would also be done on a scrollable region (since there is more text in the field than the the field can show...) Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Copy and Paste from LiveCode text fld in Mobile
Are you using a native mobile input control (text field)? A LiveCode field by itself won't offer this. Note that there are two input controls: a single line and multi-line. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/18/15, 1:32 PM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: USE CASE: I need to offer the user the ability to copy out text on mobile (not cut) for passing to twitter or email or facebook on both iOS and Android I am using a plain text field, textContent on a single card textReader unlocked, traversal on... for importing text files to the stack for users to read... and results from searches etc. When I open in Mobile...I don't get the option, on mouse down.,where the small copy, cut widget opens in iOS... where you can drag to make a selection... this would also be done on a scrollable region (since there is more text in the field than the the field can show...) Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Importing UTF-8 files
Thanks for the link. I need to “grow up” and move some stacks to 7. I will need to re-re-learn about unicode before it bites me. .Jerry Jensen On Aug 18, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Brahmanathaswami bra...@hindu.org wrote: i would highly recommend a deep read of the read me docs for 7.05 where there is super detail info on all the unicode changes so much changed, mission critical stuff, a lot easier, but you need to do it right. OH! the release notes for 7.1 don't have any of the unicode business... I don't know where LC is documenting that now.. So I extracted this for my own ref http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/stacks/705-Release-Unicode-Notes.pdf Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com J. Landman Gay wrote: Should I be using file or binfile to retrieve unicode text from a UTF-8 text file? I thought I should be using binfile, but after textDecoding the data, text chunking and delimiters break when I do that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Importing UTF-8 files
I don't think it would hurt to use file for utf-8 Sent from my iPhone On 19 Aug 2015, at 5:41 am, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Should I be using file or binfile to retrieve unicode text from a UTF-8 text file? I thought I should be using binfile, but after textDecoding the data, text chunking and delimiters break when I do that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: No Messages Until Scroll
Haven't had the problem. The only things off the top of my head is message path, layers or silently failing scripts. I'd put an answer dialog at the top of the mouseup handler for the group and button and see what you get. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dan Friedman Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:25 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: No Messages Until Scroll Greeting! I'm having an issue with a group of objects receiving a touchStart (or touchEnd, mouseUp or mouseDown) message. The problem is on iOS only (haven't tried Android yet, but works fine on the Mac). This is a group of buttons that are being scrolled by a mobile scroller. If I drag the group so it scrolls even 1 pix, then it works. If the scroller (or group) hasn't scrolled at all since it was created, no messages are getting send to the group or any objects in the group. Anyone had this problem? Or know what might be causing this? Any advice is appreciated! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: No Messages Until Scroll
Is this a bug or expected behavior? I guess I have never seen it because when I create the scroller I always set the v/h scroll to something even if it's zeros. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:43 PM To: LiveCode Mail List Subject: Re: No Messages Until Scroll Yes, I've run into this, or something related to it. It seems that controls within a scrolling group are non-responsive until the group has been scrolled (or received some scroll message). A workaround that seems to get things going is, after creating the scroller, set the scroll value of the scroller to some value, like 0 or its current scroll value. Once this value has been set, controls respond to mouse/touch events. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/18/15, 12:25 PM, Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com wrote: Greeting! I'm having an issue with a group of objects receiving a touchStart (or touchEnd, mouseUp or mouseDown) message. The problem is on iOS only (haven't tried Android yet, but works fine on the Mac). This is a group of buttons that are being scrolled by a mobile scroller. If I drag the group so it scrolls even 1 pix, then it works. If the scroller (or group) hasn't scrolled at all since it was created, no messages are getting send to the group or any objects in the group. Anyone had this problem? Or know what might be causing this? Any advice is appreciated! -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Importing UTF-8 files
i would highly recommend a deep read of the read me docs for 7.05 where there is super detail info on all the unicode changes so much changed, mission critical stuff, a lot easier, but you need to do it right. OH! the release notes for 7.1 don't have any of the unicode business... I don't know where LC is documenting that now.. So I extracted this for my own ref http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/stacks/705-Release-Unicode-Notes.pdf Swasti Astu, Be Well! Brahmanathaswami Kauai's Hindu Monastery www.HimalayanAcademy.com J. Landman Gay wrote: Should I be using file or binfile to retrieve unicode text from a UTF-8 text file? I thought I should be using binfile, but after textDecoding the data, text chunking and delimiters break when I do that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Importing UTF-8 files
On 8/18/2015 3:50 PM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: So I extracted this for my own ref http://dev.himalayanacademy.com/stacks/705-Release-Unicode-Notes.pdf Thanks for that. As Monte said, it turns out file works, but I didn't expect it because the entry for textDecode talks about binary files. If the dictionary user notes still worked I'd add a comment about that. It seems the LC team is ahead of me and has made open file and url (file:) compatible with unicode text. I should have known. I read the change notes when they first came out but obviously I forgot a bunch of it. I'll read your link. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: No Messages Until Scroll
Scott, mobileControlSet scrollerName,vScroll,(mobileControlGet(scrollerName,vScroll)) That did the trick! Many thanks! -Dan Yes, I've run into this, or something related to it. It seems that controls within a scrolling group are non-responsive until the group has been scrolled (or received some scroll message). A workaround that seems to get things going is, after creating the scroller, set the scroll value of the scroller to some value, like 0 or its current scroll value. Once this value has been set, controls respond to mouse/touch events. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Importing UTF-8 files
The thing is importing using file mode changes the line endings which is perfectly fine in UTF8. It's still UTF8 afterwards which is why textDecode still works. You could just textDecode then script the replacement of the line endings but it's probably easier for the engine to do it. Sent from my iPhone On 19 Aug 2015, at 7:32 am, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Thanks for that. As Monte said, it turns out file works, but I didn't expect it because the entry for textDecode talks about binary files. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
I'm messing around, as one does, in a scaffy carpark attached to the Conservatoire in Sofia, Bulgaria, having thrown one son on a plane to the States and waiting for the other from Germany. But I digress . . Reading a book from 1999 about Visual Basic 6 . . . AND what do I see? The Visual Basic Integrated Development Environment, to which my immediate reaction is 'fioch'! Although I can see why it might appeal to some people, and it is rather suggestive of that picture. I suppose this really comes down to whether you like the Photoshop IDE or the GIMP one: I prefer the latter; although I have to admit it was a shock after moving to it after Photoshop about 12 years ago. My main 'beef' with an IDE of the VB6 type is that it blocks the desktop from view and doesn't seem good if one wants to rearrange where one's palettes sit on the screen. Things might prove a bit awkward if one wants to make a stack as big as one's desktop if one cannot shunt palettes around and about. Of course this is all about taste (meaning it's all in the mouth) so it would seem best, if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is to be introduced to have it as one of 2 options. Richmond. from my jail-broken, recycled iPad 1 On 19 Aug 2015, at 00:57, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote: Richmond said: I'd be interested to know where one can find these usability standards, and by whom they are authorised to be 'standards' I know of no single website to visit that lists usability standards. When I think of such a concept, it is more about tools working in a way that I do not have to switch my way of thinking too much when I go from one to another. As a concrete example, in the Windows world Ctrl+H is most commonly used as the keyboard shortcut for Find and Replace. No one is bullying tool vendors into using this shortcut, but muscle memory is a wonderful time saver and stops me from having to think so hard when coding when a tool vendor does follows the convention. A different type of example of what I see as a usability standard, is that all the other IDE's I use do not put the Variables and Breakpoints list on different panes of the same window. Forcing me, not only to use he mouse to switch between them, but also preventing me from viewing them both at the same time. Such an arrangement that currently exists in LiveCode does not break any rules, but is hardly what I would call as good an arrangement used by other IDEs where I can see them both *and* the entire call stack list simultaneously. There is no good reason for LiveCode to be different when the current arrangement is less convenient and forces me to work harder. These are just two examples, but the are other issues listed in my previous post. As far as I am concerned, the Next Generation IDE is not about making something new and shiny just because it looks cool and copies what every other tool vendor is doing. It is instead about making LiveCode a tool that doesn't make me have to remember a different set of rules and conventions while working in it and doing common basic actions, as compared to other popular editors and IDEs. Following expected conventions also reduces the chance of new users dismissing LiveCode immediately they try do some simple actions that all of the other programming tools do, but LiveCode cannot. To me usability standards are all about increasing the user base, and reducing the effort of my hands and brain when in LiveCode. -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app
We have budget for this and so I'm going to buy your app... least we can do for all that you give to us! I have FTP off on the server by default. no one from anywhere for any reason can log in with clear text, its just not done, period. (why LC HQ doesn't get this and provide this as part of lib URL is beyond me... end my perennial rant on no SFTP in the engine One day you can add the option to use rSync provided the user has her SSH key installed... this also work/around no SFTP. J. Landman Gay wrote: Not exactly. The app itself can't be distributed as-is, you need to build a special distribution package. That's the tedious part that AirLaunch automates. You can find info on how to do that on the web. It's a lot of futzing around, and ater a while I got tired of it and wrote AirLaunch. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
SFTP support [was: Re: Distribute beta versions of iOS app]
On 2015-08-18 22:42, Brahmanathaswami wrote: I have FTP off on the server by default. no one from anywhere for any reason can log in with clear text, its just not done, period. (why LC HQ doesn't get this and provide this as part of lib URL is beyond me... end my perennial rant on no SFTP in the engine The LiveCode engine can already do secure communication using SSL (Secure Socket Layer). It would *probably* be possible to use secure socket to implement FTPS (FTP over SSL) in scripts, without any engine changes (i.e. in libUrl). SFTP is not FTPS or FTP. It's an unrelated file transfer protocol that runs over Secure Shell (SSH). It would be a relatively large project to add it to the engine, because we would be able to use the existing secure network communication support in LiveCode, and we wouldn't be able to use *any* of the existing FTP support in LiveCode. The regular requests for SFTP support are noted and SFTP support is on our internal list of feature requests -- indeed, I was recently discussing it with Mark Waddingham. However, it will be a large project that will involve writing and thoroughly testing a lot of new, security-critical code. When we have the resources available to implement it, it will therefore very likely be introduced an extension available to LiveCode Business customers. In the meantime, you could work around the absence of SFTP support (while maintaining server security) by creating an HTTPS web service that allows uploads only by authenticated clients which provide a valid API token. One thing I don't understand - please can you explain why you can't just do your uploads by shelling out to the scp or rsync commands? Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
Richmond said: I'd be interested to know where one can find these usability standards, and by whom they are authorised to be 'standards' I know of no single website to visit that lists usability standards. When I think of such a concept, it is more about tools working in a way that I do not have to switch my way of thinking too much when I go from one to another. As a concrete example, in the Windows world Ctrl+H is most commonly used as the keyboard shortcut for Find and Replace. No one is bullying tool vendors into using this shortcut, but muscle memory is a wonderful time saver and stops me from having to think so hard when coding when a tool vendor does follows the convention. A different type of example of what I see as a usability standard, is that all the other IDE's I use do not put the Variables and Breakpoints list on different panes of the same window. Forcing me, not only to use he mouse to switch between them, but also preventing me from viewing them both at the same time. Such an arrangement that currently exists in LiveCode does not break any rules, but is hardly what I would call as good an arrangement used by other IDEs where I can see them both *and* the entire call stack list simultaneously. There is no good reason for LiveCode to be different when the current arrangement is less convenient and forces me to work harder. These are just two examples, but the are other issues listed in my previous post. As far as I am concerned, the Next Generation IDE is not about making something new and shiny just because it looks cool and copies what every other tool vendor is doing. It is instead about making LiveCode a tool that doesn't make me have to remember a different set of rules and conventions while working in it and doing common basic actions, as compared to other popular editors and IDEs. Following expected conventions also reduces the chance of new users dismissing LiveCode immediately they try do some simple actions that all of the other programming tools do, but LiveCode cannot. To me usability standards are all about increasing the user base, and reducing the effort of my hands and brain when in LiveCode. -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: BAF and other things - I am confused...
That looks really nice! They have put a lot of work into it. It sounds like you cannot use any pointers yet or access everything in Foundation. John Balgenorth On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:43 AM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: From: rolf.kocherh...@id.uzh.ch Second question: The new Widgets and the new LiveCode Builder language, when and how do we get more information about how to use the Language ? I had a look at all the movies and blog posts, but to be honest, for me the present info is not at all enough to feel confident that I can create widgets on my own ! Can the mothership please chime in ? The spec is here: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/Extending%20LiveCode.md#documentation-markup ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
I like the IDE set-up arrangement as it is with the floating panes. It is an especially workable when using a two monitor set-up. If the single view arrangement were to be implemented in a new IDE then the option to un-dock the script editor at the bare minimum should be an option. I agree that the current IDE look and feel looks tired and may put new potential users of LiveCode off..so.. how about a middle step of revamping the look of the existing pallets and allowing the user to theme the current IDE arrangement? - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. Copy the new cloud space, get your free 15GB space now: Get Copy Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / finder. http://www.pointandsee.co.uk - made with LiveCode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-Source-Kickstarter-Report-Card-tp4695018p4695331.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
I totally agree, I use Photoshop dialy and while I’m quite happy with a one window type of environment for image editing I really don’t feel it would be appropriate for app development. However, there are some areas that I feel could be improved in the LC IDE, so I wrote my own plugin to help organise LC just how I like it, and then made another plugin to add some shortcuts that I prefer, so for me a better designed IDE doesn’t mean one pane for everything, but more options for custom shortcuts, tabbed panels that can be docked together etc. and options for arranging the IDE just how you like it and then being able to save those settings. Photoshop is actually a very good model for a flexible working environment, especially for people that work on multiple monitors, it can be set up like you use GIMP with separate floating panels, or with docked panels or with a backdrop to obscure the finder and other distracting apps with shortcuts to make all open panels disappear (and reappear!). All of these settings can be saved as different workspaces, if LC could do that I would be really impressed and I’m sure many others would too. Paul On Aug 18, 2015, at 20:59, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm messing around, as one does, in a scaffy carpark attached to the Conservatoire in Sofia, Bulgaria, having thrown one son on a plane to the States and waiting for the other from Germany. But I digress . . Reading a book from 1999 about Visual Basic 6 . . . AND what do I see? The Visual Basic Integrated Development Environment, to which my immediate reaction is 'fioch'! Although I can see why it might appeal to some people, and it is rather suggestive of that picture. I suppose this really comes down to whether you like the Photoshop IDE or the GIMP one: I prefer the latter; although I have to admit it was a shock after moving to it after Photoshop about 12 years ago. My main 'beef' with an IDE of the VB6 type is that it blocks the desktop from view and doesn't seem good if one wants to rearrange where one's palettes sit on the screen. Things might prove a bit awkward if one wants to make a stack as big as one's desktop if one cannot shunt palettes around and about. Of course this is all about taste (meaning it's all in the mouth) so it would seem best, if an all-in-one IDE like the VB6 one is to be introduced to have it as one of 2 options. Richmond. from my jail-broken, recycled iPad 1 On 19 Aug 2015, at 00:57, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote: Richmond said: I'd be interested to know where one can find these usability standards, and by whom they are authorised to be 'standards' I know of no single website to visit that lists usability standards. When I think of such a concept, it is more about tools working in a way that I do not have to switch my way of thinking too much when I go from one to another. As a concrete example, in the Windows world Ctrl+H is most commonly used as the keyboard shortcut for Find and Replace. No one is bullying tool vendors into using this shortcut, but muscle memory is a wonderful time saver and stops me from having to think so hard when coding when a tool vendor does follows the convention. A different type of example of what I see as a usability standard, is that all the other IDE's I use do not put the Variables and Breakpoints list on different panes of the same window. Forcing me, not only to use he mouse to switch between them, but also preventing me from viewing them both at the same time. Such an arrangement that currently exists in LiveCode does not break any rules, but is hardly what I would call as good an arrangement used by other IDEs where I can see them both *and* the entire call stack list simultaneously. There is no good reason for LiveCode to be different when the current arrangement is less convenient and forces me to work harder. These are just two examples, but the are other issues listed in my previous post. As far as I am concerned, the Next Generation IDE is not about making something new and shiny just because it looks cool and copies what every other tool vendor is doing. It is instead about making LiveCode a tool that doesn't make me have to remember a different set of rules and conventions while working in it and doing common basic actions, as compared to other popular editors and IDEs. Following expected conventions also reduces the chance of new users dismissing LiveCode immediately they try do some simple actions that all of the other programming tools do, but LiveCode cannot. To me usability standards are all about increasing the user base, and reducing the effort of my hands and brain when in LiveCode. -- Scott McDonald Components, Controls, Tools and Resources for LiveCode www.runrevplanet.com ___ use-livecode
Re: Open Source Kickstarter Report Card
On 19 Aug 2015, at 3:22 pm, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: The Viewer widget needed for that UI will be very nice for us, but I fear making an IDE based around it, as it would no longer be truly LIVE CODE. I agree, personally I’d like a full screen script editor with an object tree on the side and possibly a properties pane on the other side but for the actual stacks I think a toolbar and floating palettes and our stacks as real windows is more logical. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: BAF and other things - I am confused...
On 2015-08-18 14:57, Roger Eller wrote: I recommend working through the step-by-step guide that Georgia wrote: https://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/ It's quite easy to follow and it's a great intro to LiveCode Builder. That is a great intro, but where are the details of the language? Since you draw with commands as in #5, how do you draw other shapes / objects, and set their attributes? If you go into the Dictionary in LiveCode 8: * use the menu at the top left to select the LiveCode Builder dictionary. * click on library on the left * select com.livecode.canvas from the list You will rewarded by a very long and comprehensive list of syntax related to drawing. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: BAF and other things - I am confused...
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: On 2015-08-18 11:17, Rolf Kocherhans wrote: The new Widgets and the new LiveCode Builder language, when and how do we get more information about how to use the Language ? I had a look at all the movies and blog posts, but to be honest, for me the present info is not at all enough to feel confident that I can create widgets on my own ! I recommend working through the step-by-step guide that Georgia wrote: https://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/ It's quite easy to follow and it's a great intro to LiveCode Builder. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett peter.br...@livecode.com LiveCode Engine Development Team That is a great intro, but where are the details of the language? Since you draw with commands as in #5, how do you draw other shapes / objects, and set their attributes? ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Bug getting group name, plse check
+1 -- bookmarked! -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Its pretty easy to set up a custom search engine in google. I created a cse restricted to 4 sites. www.livecode.com forums.livecode.com lessons.livecode.com and the nabble site. I'm sure there are settings that might help it work better. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Bug getting group name, plse check
Theres so MUCH content in the forum, it seems to take over the results. Might be better to have it in a separate engine, and if there is still an online dictionary, set one up for that too. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com wrote: +1 -- bookmarked! -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Aug 17, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Its pretty easy to set up a custom search engine in google. I created a cse restricted to 4 sites. www.livecode.com forums.livecode.com lessons.livecode.com and the nabble site. I'm sure there are settings that might help it work better. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
How to Go to The Edinburgh Fringe Festival
Hi Everyone, If you know Edinburgh, you might know The Fringe Festival. It's that time of year when street performers, dancers, DJs, and buskers take over the Royal Mile with flyers, music, and tomfoolery. It's awesome. Our staff came up with a list of recommended Fringe favorites. So whether you're an Edinburgh local looking for something to see or a LiveCode fan abroad, we hope you'll enjoy getting to know the Fringe's 2015 flavor! https://livecode.com/how-to-go-to-the-edinburgh-fringe-festival/ Thanks! Jana ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
