Re: [ANN] mergExt releases for iOS 9.2

[Monte Goulding]

> On 11 Feb 2016, at 9:26 PM, Ben Rubinstein  wrote:
> 
> N -1!
> 
> On 10/02/2016 15:41, Mike Kerner wrote:
>> The other thing that would be nice would be to maybe have the new versions
>> not be marked with the version number.  I realize that can be dangerous,
>> but for every app, I have to go into Copy Files for every external and
>> point to the new one.  When I forget (especially if I haven't done a new
>> build in a while), that means at least one "whoops" build.
> 
> I strongly disagree. I'd much rather have control and know exactly which 
> version I'm using with each application. Admittedly in this case the changes 
> may be mostly invisible tweaks to accomodate iOS differences, but stuff 
> always needs testing, and there can easily be unexpected effects.
> 
> I'd much rather have to do a small amount of deliberate work upfront when I 
> want to switch to a new version, than have to spend more time diagnosing 
> mysterious behaviour when I did it without meaning to. That's especially 
> going to happen to an app where I haven't done a new build in a while.
> 
> My feature request, on the contrary, would be for for Monte to add a standard 
> "mergVersion" function to every external in the suite, so that we can always 
> verify exactly what we've got (and so that app error reports, for example, 
> can include this information by default).
> 
> My AUS$ 0.02,

At this stage what I’m considering is an additional large archive containing 
all externals so you can still download individual files. At the moment I scp a 
large archive over to my server and run a script on it to deploy everything 
into the right spot. It shouldn’t be overly complicated to extract each of the 
external archives and then archive the lot at the end of that script.

A version function is probably feasible (I need to be able to automate changing 
the version number from by external builder stack. It’s probably not something 
I’ll get to in the very short term though.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: sqlite db password?

[Earthednet-wp]

Peter,
Thanks so much! I can probably do it if you point me in the right direction. I 
found the command line tool and I'll see if I can use it. I may not get to it 
until Monday. Going to be out of town until then.

This may be the direction I need, tho.
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bill,
> SQLite didn't have built-in password protection until a fairly recent
> release and the SQLite library.  I dont recall which version.  The SQLite
> library included with Livecode 8 is a fairly recent one and I believe
> includes the password feature
> 
> Unfortunately, Livecode has not been updated to include the necessary
> parameters to revOpenDatabase to pass in a password for sqlite, as you've
> found. If you know the password, you can remove it using the sqlite3
> command line tool but I'd have to reserach that further for you.
> 
> Pete
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM William Prothero 
> wrote:
> 
>> Folks:
>> 
>> I have an sqlite database created in Adobe Director using an old Xtra
>> (Arca). It has a password. Can livecode open an sqlite database that is
>> password protected? I can’t tell from the dictionary, how to open a
>> password protected db that is local.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info.
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> proth...@earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: sqlite db password?

[Earthednet-wp]

My SQLite db was created about 6-7yrs ago, so password protection has probably 
changed since then. My best option may be to open up director 10 on an old os 
and reset or turn off the password. Perhaps I can avoid the whole problem by 
going back to content created before I put it into a db in the first place. My 
need isn't immediate, but I thought it might be easy. If nobody has a brilliant 
idea, I'll put this on hold for now.
Best,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Earthednet-wp  wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> Thanks so much! I can probably do it if you point me in the right direction. 
> I found the command line tool and I'll see if I can use it. I may not get to 
> it until Monday. Going to be out of town until then.
> 
> This may be the direction I need, tho.
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William Prothero
> http://es.earthednet.org
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> SQLite didn't have built-in password protection until a fairly recent
>> release and the SQLite library.  I dont recall which version.  The SQLite
>> library included with Livecode 8 is a fairly recent one and I believe
>> includes the password feature
>> 
>> Unfortunately, Livecode has not been updated to include the necessary
>> parameters to revOpenDatabase to pass in a password for sqlite, as you've
>> found. If you know the password, you can remove it using the sqlite3
>> command line tool but I'd have to reserach that further for you.
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM William Prothero 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> 
>>> I have an sqlite database created in Adobe Director using an old Xtra
>>> (Arca). It has a password. Can livecode open an sqlite database that is
>>> password protected? I can’t tell from the dictionary, how to open a
>>> password protected db that is local.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any info.
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>>> proth...@earthednet.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: best LiveCode apps?

[Colin Holgate]

Thanks, that’s very useful. It doesn’t have to all be apps.


> On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Roger Eller  wrote:
> 
> These aren't specifically mobile apps, but it is a good showcase of things
> made in LiveCode.  Some are mobile apps.
> 
> http://livecode1001.blogspot.com/
> 
> ~Roger
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Colin Holgate 
> wrote:
> 
>> I’m showing LiveCode at a Meetup this evening, and as well as doing some
>> live coding it would be nice to show some good apps that were made in
>> LiveCode, either from the mobile app stores or the Mac App Store.
>> 
>> Do you all have any suggestions? I don’t need many, so if you can suggest
>> the ones you like the most, rather than just a long list of all apps, that
>> would be most useful.
>> 
>> 
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Re: best LiveCode apps?

[Colin Holgate]

Thanks. I did do a search for “made with livecode”, maybe that page should have 
that in its text somewhere?


> On Feb 11, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Richard Gaskin  
> wrote:
> 
> The team updated their gallery page, now showing many great examples:
> 
> https://livecode.com/livecode-stories/
> 
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Re: best LiveCode apps?

[Roger Eller]

These aren't specifically mobile apps, but it is a good showcase of things
made in LiveCode.  Some are mobile apps.

http://livecode1001.blogspot.com/

~Roger

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Colin Holgate 
wrote:

> I’m showing LiveCode at a Meetup this evening, and as well as doing some
> live coding it would be nice to show some good apps that were made in
> LiveCode, either from the mobile app stores or the Mac App Store.
>
> Do you all have any suggestions? I don’t need many, so if you can suggest
> the ones you like the most, rather than just a long list of all apps, that
> would be most useful.
>
>
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Re: best LiveCode apps?

[Richard Gaskin]

The team updated their gallery page, now showing many great examples:

https://livecode.com/livecode-stories/

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Re: Modifying Drop-Down Menus on the fly

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from sunny Brittany,

Thanks to Eric, Phil, Beda and especially Tore.

I was so used to using keywords in button definitions to modify
button parameters, that I didn't even look up "Menu" in the
dictionary (Can't see the wood for the trees ?)

Tore gave me little script routines which I can adapt to my
requirements (great stuff !)

Beda asked me a question in return (I said I could modify script
"cases" with no problems) - a little vague 

You can  change the script of a button completely with the command :

set the script of button "abc" to field "xyz" (or a preset variable).
Some of my menu button scripts contain "case" commands (which is
what I meant .).

I change script content in my fields ** and buttons very often, to do rather
tortuous things (which I will not describe here !)

Now I am starting to do the same with "Drop-Down" menus. This is just the
beginning .

** Beda, you can define a script for a field, lock the field and it works like a
button when you click on it (it can be useful !)

Best Regards to all

-Francis


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Re: [ANN] mergExt releases for iOS 9.2

[Ben Rubinstein]

N -1!

On 10/02/2016 15:41, Mike Kerner wrote:

The other thing that would be nice would be to maybe have the new versions
not be marked with the version number.  I realize that can be dangerous,
but for every app, I have to go into Copy Files for every external and
point to the new one.  When I forget (especially if I haven't done a new
build in a while), that means at least one "whoops" build.


I strongly disagree. I'd much rather have control and know exactly which 
version I'm using with each application. Admittedly in this case the changes 
may be mostly invisible tweaks to accomodate iOS differences, but stuff always 
needs testing, and there can easily be unexpected effects.


I'd much rather have to do a small amount of deliberate work upfront when I 
want to switch to a new version, than have to spend more time diagnosing 
mysterious behaviour when I did it without meaning to. That's especially going 
to happen to an app where I haven't done a new build in a while.


My feature request, on the contrary, would be for for Monte to add a standard 
"mergVersion" function to every external in the suite, so that we can always 
verify exactly what we've got (and so that app error reports, for example, can 
include this information by default).


My AUS$ 0.02,

Ben


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Re: Release 8.0 DP 14

[RM]

I was playing around with LiveCode 8.0 DP 14 on Windows 7 VMware (as one 
does when
life gets a bit tedious on the Linux side: I suppose it's because there 
is none of the excitement
of ransomware, viruses, Trojan horses and so on) and could not help but 
notice [pomposity at its
best] that the revDictionary stack can be resized vertically, but its 
width is stuck permanently

at 1010 pixels:

This is, frankly, a bit silly: especially if you are "VDU challenged" 
and stuck with a 1024 x 768 monitor.


It is well-nigh impossible to do some development work and consult the 
Dictionary at the same time.


I suppose this should be popped in the Bug reporting system . . . Bug 16910

Richmond.

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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Klaus major-k]

Hi all,

> Am 11.02.2016 um 08:28 schrieb Peter TB Brett :
> 
> On 2016-02-10 23:39, William Prothero wrote:
>> Folks:
>> I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field,
>> in the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it
>> in the toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> If you could set the font color of field text using the LiveCode 7 project 
> browser,
> and you can no longer do that in LiveCode 8, then yes, it's a bug - and 
> please file a bug report!

this has already been bug reported by me!


> Thanks,
> 
> Peter

Best

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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Klaus major-k]

Hi Hermann,

> Am 11.02.2016 um 14:31 schrieb [-hh] :
> 
> Hi Klaus,
> 
> wrong number? Report 16843 is not about "textColor/ForeColor" but abut 
> setting the textfont.

oh, sorry, yes, my fault! :-/
So obviously not reported yet.

> Hermann

Best

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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[[-hh]]

I'm used to set the 'global' text color of a field by the Property Inspector by 
setting the textColor (synonym foreColor) and set the color of chunks of text 
by script or menu.

I've never been able to set the color of text (or parts of text) in Project 
Browser or Application Browser. Please tell me, how did you achieve that?

> > Will P. wrote: Folks:

> > I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field,
> > in the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it
> > in the toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
> 
> Peter B. wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> If you could set the font color of field text using the LiveCode 7 
> project browser, and you can no longer do that in LiveCode 8, then yes, 
> it's a bug - and please file a bug report!

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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[[-hh]]

Hi Klaus,

wrong number? Report 16843 is not about "textColor/ForeColor" but abut setting 
the textfont.

Hermann
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Roger Guay]

I looked for where one COULD set the textColor in the Project Browser on 
several IDEs, including 7, and I cannot see how that is or was ever done?!

Roger


> On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:34 AM, Klaus major-k  wrote:
> 
> Hi Hermann,
> 
>> Am 11.02.2016 um 14:31 schrieb [-hh] :
>> 
>> Hi Klaus,
>> 
>> wrong number? Report 16843 is not about "textColor/ForeColor" but abut 
>> setting the textfont.
> 
> oh, sorry, yes, my fault! :-/
> So obviously not reported yet.
> 
>> Hermann
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
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LC web site and license server down?

[Ralph DiMola]

It seems that all services are up now.


Sent @ 10:56 est..
Anyone else have a problem?

Chrome error message:

This webpage is not available

ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED
The webpage at https://livecode.com/download/ might be temporarily down or
it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

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Re: shadow declarations bug back?

[Peter Haworth]

You're probably right, can't remember the exact details.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:35 PM Ben Rubinstein  wrote:

> FWIW I think the repro case is a little tighter than that: I think it's
> when
> execution is stopped from the debugger, *with the variable inspection pane
> selected*.
>
> I won't swear to it...
>
> On 11/02/2016 18:40, Peter Haworth wrote:
> > I haven't seen the shadowed variable bug for a long time.  I think it was
> > established that the bug occurs when execution is stopped by clicking the
> > blue square icon to stop execution during a debug run. Don't know if the
> > underlying cause of that has been fixed but I try to remember to let
> debug
> > runs continue to the end these days and have not experienced the problem
> > since.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM Dr. Hawkins  wrote:
> >
> >> The once common shadow-declaration bug seems to have largely gone away;
> I
> >> realized that I hadn't seen it in some time.
> >>
> >> It seems to have appeared again in 7.1.2_rc1 & rc2; are other people
> seeing
> >> it again?
>
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Re: sqlite db password?

[Peter Haworth]

Hi Bill,
SQLite didn't have built-in password protection until a fairly recent
release and the SQLite library.  I dont recall which version.  The SQLite
library included with Livecode 8 is a fairly recent one and I believe
includes the password feature

Unfortunately, Livecode has not been updated to include the necessary
parameters to revOpenDatabase to pass in a password for sqlite, as you've
found. If you know the password, you can remove it using the sqlite3
command line tool but I'd have to reserach that further for you.

Pete

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:37 PM William Prothero 
wrote:

> Folks:
>
> I have an sqlite database created in Adobe Director using an old Xtra
> (Arca). It has a password. Can livecode open an sqlite database that is
> password protected? I can’t tell from the dictionary, how to open a
> password protected db that is local.
>
> Thanks for any info.
> Best,
> Bill
>
>
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
>
>
>
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LC web site and license server down?

[Ralph DiMola]

Anyone else have a problem?

Chrome error message:

This webpage is not available

ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED
The webpage at https://livecode.com/download/ might be temporarily down or
it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

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sqlite db password?

[William Prothero]

Folks:

I have an sqlite database created in Adobe Director using an old Xtra (Arca). 
It has a password. Can livecode open an sqlite database that is password 
protected? I can’t tell from the dictionary, how to open a password protected 
db that is local.

Thanks for any info.
Best,
Bill


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University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
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Re: shadow declarations bug back?

[Ben Rubinstein]

FWIW I think the repro case is a little tighter than that: I think it's when 
execution is stopped from the debugger, *with the variable inspection pane 
selected*.


I won't swear to it...

On 11/02/2016 18:40, Peter Haworth wrote:

I haven't seen the shadowed variable bug for a long time.  I think it was
established that the bug occurs when execution is stopped by clicking the
blue square icon to stop execution during a debug run. Don't know if the
underlying cause of that has been fixed but I try to remember to let debug
runs continue to the end these days and have not experienced the problem
since.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM Dr. Hawkins  wrote:


The once common shadow-declaration bug seems to have largely gone away; I
realized that I hadn't seen it in some time.

It seems to have appeared again in 7.1.2_rc1 & rc2; are other people seeing
it again?



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Re: formattedtext and formattedrect in a substack

[Michael Doub]

I think I found the answer to my question set the defaultstack

put the short name of this stack into temp
go invisible stack "B"
set the defaultstack to temp
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  -- works as expected
put the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1  of stack "B" & cr 
after msg

answer the hilite of btn 1

This seems to work.   Is it the correct solution to this problem?

-= Mike



On 2/11/16 4:04 PM, Michael Doub wrote:
I recently discovered an interesting bug: 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16881


formattedrec and formattedtext do not work properly it their target is 
in a stack that has not been opened.
So if you have a main stack A with a checkbox on the cd 1 and stack B 
is a substack of stack A with fld 1 on its first card. Execute the 
following code in the stack script of stack A:


open a fresh copy of livecode, and open stack A
execute the following:
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - fails 
and returns 0,0,0,0 <==

answer the hilite of btn 1

As long a stack B has not been opened you will get bad results.

Now open substack B and close it.
execute the following again...
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - 
returns 58,42,114,56

answer the hilite of btn 1

So now open a fresh copy and livecode and open stack A
now execute the followng:

go invisible to stack "B"
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - fails 
and returns 58,42,114,56
answer the hilite of btn 1 < gets a runtime error here because 
there is no bnt 1 on cd 1 of stack "B"


So, how do you get the context set back to stack A?

Regards,
  Mike





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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[RM]

On 11.02.2016 22:47, [-hh] wrote:

William P. wrote:

But, why not call it what it is? Since this is an app for "everybody" why not 
just call it textcolor? That’s what it actually is. If we can use syntax like: “put 3 
into x” instead of “x=3”, why not try to carry through the entire system with the same 
philosophy and keep the “jargony” things as minimized as possible.

As I am one of the "everybodys" who tried to build you a golden bridge you 
didn't use, here another one.


Some of us are "everybodies" or, at least, attempt to represent 
"everybodies", who when we have
 become inconveniently trenchant about what might suit "everybody" 
rather than a coterie following

have been accused of all sorts of "entertaining" things.

I do feel that there is a fairly large gap between various parties' 
understandings of the word 'Community'.


While LiveCode is, undoubtedly, with the advent of version 8 becoming 
something very special indeed,
I hope, and pray that the "powers that be" will not lose sight of its 
humble origins (HyperCard) and what
its progenitor originally set out to be. Because, while LiveCode is 
becoming a power to be reckoned with, if it loses sight of what made 
HyperCard great it will be the poorer for that.


Richmond.



There is in the LC Preferences/ Tab General at top an option
"Property labels are:"
o Description of option
X Name of LiveCode property

If you choose to prefer "Description of option" then you'll get in the Property Inspector 
"Text Fill" instead of "foreGroundColor".

Hermann

By the way "put 3 into x" is logically correct, x=3 not, because it is an 
equation, which is equivalent to 3=x ...


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formattedtext and formattedrect in a substack

[Michael Doub]

I recently discovered an interesting bug: 
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16881


formattedrec and formattedtext do not work properly it their target is 
in a stack that has not been opened.
So if you have a main stack A with a checkbox on the cd 1 and stack B is 
a substack of stack A with fld 1 on its first card.  Execute the 
following code in the stack script of stack A:


open a fresh copy of livecode, and open stack A
execute the following:
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - fails 
and returns 0,0,0,0 <==

answer the hilite of btn 1

As long a stack B has not been opened you will get bad results.

Now open substack B and close it.
execute the following again...
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - returns 
58,42,114,56

answer the hilite of btn 1

So now open a fresh copy and livecode and open stack A
now execute the followng:

go invisible to stack "B"
put "Hello world" into fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B"  - works as expected
get the formattedrect of line 1 of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack "B" - fails 
and returns 58,42,114,56
answer the hilite of btn 1 < gets a runtime error here because there 
is no bnt 1 on cd 1 of stack "B"


So, how do you get the context set back to stack A?

Regards,
  Mike



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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[[-hh]]

William P. wrote:
> But, why not call it what it is? Since this is an app for "everybody" why not 
> just call it textcolor? That’s what it actually is. If we can use syntax 
> like: “put 3 into x” instead of “x=3”, why not try to carry through the 
> entire system with the same philosophy and keep the “jargony” things as 
> minimized as possible.

As I am one of the "everybodys" who tried to build you a golden bridge you 
didn't use, here another one.

There is in the LC Preferences/ Tab General at top an option
"Property labels are:"
o Description of option
X Name of LiveCode property

If you choose to prefer "Description of option" then you'll get in the Property 
Inspector "Text Fill" instead of "foreGroundColor".

Hermann

By the way "put 3 into x" is logically correct, x=3 not, because it is an 
equation, which is equivalent to 3=x ...


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Re: shadow declarations bug back?

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> I haven't seen the shadowed variable bug for a long time.  I think it was
> established that the bug occurs when execution is stopped by clicking the
> blue square icon to stop execution during a debug run.
>

No, that was only one cause.  Minutes after someone suggested that, I got
one that clearly wasn't that.


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RE: LC web site and license server down?

[Ralph DiMola]

I wonder if there was an upgrade. On-rev's cPanel looks different.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11
Cell: 518-796-9332


-Original Message-
From: Ralph DiMola [mailto:rdim...@evergreeninfo.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 11:16 AM
To: 'How to use LiveCode'
Subject: LC web site and license server down?

It seems that all services are up now.


Sent @ 10:56 est..
Anyone else have a problem?

Chrome error message:

This webpage is not available

ERR_SOCKET_NOT_CONNECTED
The webpage at https://livecode.com/download/ might be temporarily down or
it may have moved permanently to a new web address.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[William Prothero]

Folks:
Sorry. My Bad. I meant the Application Browser. The new LC8DP14 doesn’t have a 
way to set the font color of text in a field. You need to go to the toolbar 
menu. Sorry for the confusion. 
Bill

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:39 PM, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field, in the 
> project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it in the toolbar 
> menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> William Prothero, Ph.D.
> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
> proth...@earthednet.org
> 
> 
> 
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Re: No audio playback on iOS devices

[Devin Asay]

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:33 AM, J. Landman Gay  wrote:
> 
> Does it work if you use specialFolderPath("resources") instead of "engine"? 
> Apple changed the rules for bundle structure and LC tries to redirect older 
> paths to the resources folder, but maybe that's not working in this case.

Yeah, I've tried both "engine" and "resources". Same outcome. The odd thing is 
that external image assets display just fine. 
> 
> 
> On February 11, 2016 11:20:52 AM Devin Asay  wrote:.
>> 
>> I ran a check on open card: answer there is a file tFilePath # where 
>> tFilePath contains the full path to the file I’m trying to play. The file 
>> path is based on specialFolderPath(“engine”)
>> This check returns “true”.
>> 
>> I verified that the asset files are being copied to the app bundle.
>> 
>> It still plays fine on the simulator and on an Android device.
>> 
>> Has anything changed in terms of what kinds of files can be played on iOS 
>> devices?
> 
> 
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[William Prothero]

Roger:
Thanks, yeah, it was the property inspector. Sorry for the confusion. 

The 3rd icon from the left along the top, in LC8DP14 (pencil icon) has a number 
of items that can be set. Foreground color, background color, etc. There is no 
textcolor choice. In LC 7, the property inspector with the “Colors and 
Patterns” pane showing, there is a textcolor choice. 

I use that choice a fair amount, so I miss it.

Best,
Bill


> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Roger Guay  wrote:
> 
> Hey Bill,
> 
> There again, I don’t remember there was ever a way to do that. If you mean 
> the Property Inspector, then the 4th icon from the left in Property 
> Inspector’s menu (under the titlebar) will allow to set the text color.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:32 AM, William Prothero  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> Sorry. My Bad. I meant the Application Browser. The new LC8DP14 doesn’t have 
>> a way to set the font color of text in a field. You need to go to the 
>> toolbar menu. Sorry for the confusion. 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:39 PM, William Prothero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field, in 
>>> the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it in the 
>>> toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>>> proth...@earthednet.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: No audio playback on iOS devices

[Devin Asay]

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:33 AM, J. Landman Gay  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does it work if you use specialFolderPath("resources") instead of "engine"? 
>> Apple changed the rules for bundle structure and LC tries to redirect older 
>> paths to the resources folder, but maybe that's not working in this case.
> 
> Yeah, I've tried both "engine" and "resources". Same outcome. The odd thing 
> is that external image assets display just fine. 

And may I say parenthetically that specialFolderPath("resources”) is the best 
thing since sliced bread!

Devin

Devin Asay
Office of Digital Humanities
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[William Prothero]

Too many multi-tasks, transferring host server to a new implementation, plus a 
bunch of other distractions.
Best,
Bill

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Roger Guay  wrote:
> 
> Hey Bill,
> 
> There again, I don’t remember there was ever a way to do that. If you mean 
> the Property Inspector, then the 4th icon from the left in Property 
> Inspector’s menu (under the titlebar) will allow to set the text color.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:32 AM, William Prothero  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> Sorry. My Bad. I meant the Application Browser. The new LC8DP14 doesn’t have 
>> a way to set the font color of text in a field. You need to go to the 
>> toolbar menu. Sorry for the confusion. 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:39 PM, William Prothero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field, in 
>>> the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it in the 
>>> toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>>> proth...@earthednet.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Peter TB Brett]

On 11/02/2016 18:12, William Prothero wrote:

Roger:
Thanks, yeah, it was the property inspector. Sorry for the confusion.

The 3rd icon from the left along the top, in LC8DP14 (pencil icon) has a number 
of items that can be set. Foreground color, background color, etc. There is no 
textcolor choice. In LC 7, the property inspector with the “Colors and 
Patterns” pane showing, there is a textcolor choice.



Hi Bill,

Aren't the text colour and foreground colour the same?

  Peter

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Re: No audio playback on iOS devices

[Devin Asay]

>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:30 PM, Randy Hengst  wrote:
>> 
>> When I’ve had this problem, it’s because I didn’t pay attention to the name 
>> of the sounds files… I’m pretty sure iOS is case sensitive. I called a name 
>> without matching case. I can’t remember if the sounds played on the 
>> simulator and then failed on the device like you stated… just a thought.
>> 
>> be well,
>> randy
>> 

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> 
> You might be right, Randy. I've actually been bitten by this before, but I 
> didn't think to check that in this case. I'll have a look at it when I get 
> back to my computer.

Well, this is still stumping me. 

I’m using code that has worked in the past on iOS devices.

I’m using “nothing-fancy” .wav and .mp3 files that I have used on iOS devices 
before.

I have checked the file path and file names—there are no case mismatches.

I ran a check on open card: answer there is a file tFilePath # where tFilePath 
contains the full path to the file I’m trying to play. The file path is based 
on specialFolderPath(“engine”)
This check returns “true”.

I verified that the asset files are being copied to the app bundle.

It still plays fine on the simulator and on an Android device.

Has anything changed in terms of what kinds of files can be played on iOS 
devices? 

Suggestions appreciated.

Devin


>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been testing some small apps that I use in my class on iOS devices. 
>>> I’m finding that my apps fail to play audio files. It doesn’t seem to 
>>> matter if I use a simple ‘play’ command or the ‘mobilePlaySoundOnChannel’ 
>>> command. I’m on Mac Yosemite 10.10.5, and I’ve tried building with LC 
>>> 7.1.1, 7.1.2 RC2, and 8.0DP14. I’ve tried it on iOS 9.2  and 8.3 on several 
>>> different iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> It works on the iOS simulator.
>>> It works on Android.
>>> I have verified that the audio assets are copied successfully to the app 
>>> bundle. Other external assets, like image files, show up properly in the 
>>> app.
>>> iOS devices are not muted.
>>> 
>>> I have built apps for iOS in the past and audio playback has worked without 
>>> problems.
>>> 
>>> Am I missing something? Has anyone else run into this?
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Devin Asay
>>> Office of Digital Humanities
>>> Brigham Young University
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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Roger Guay]

Hey Bill,

There again, I don’t remember there was ever a way to do that. If you mean the 
Property Inspector, then the 4th icon from the left in Property Inspector’s 
menu (under the titlebar) will allow to set the text color.

HTH

Cheers,

Roger



> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:32 AM, William Prothero  wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> Sorry. My Bad. I meant the Application Browser. The new LC8DP14 doesn’t have 
> a way to set the font color of text in a field. You need to go to the toolbar 
> menu. Sorry for the confusion. 
> Bill
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:39 PM, William Prothero  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Folks:
>> I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field, in 
>> the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it in the 
>> toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> William Prothero, Ph.D.
>> University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
>> proth...@earthednet.org
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: No audio playback on iOS devices

[J. Landman Gay]

Does it work if you use specialFolderPath("resources") instead of "engine"? 
Apple changed the rules for bundle structure and LC tries to redirect older 
paths to the resources folder, but maybe that's not working in this case.




On February 11, 2016 11:20:52 AM Devin Asay  wrote:.


I ran a check on open card: answer there is a file tFilePath # where 
tFilePath contains the full path to the file I’m trying to play. The file 
path is based on specialFolderPath(“engine”)

This check returns “true”.

I verified that the asset files are being copied to the app bundle.

It still plays fine on the simulator and on an Android device.

Has anything changed in terms of what kinds of files can be played on iOS 
devices?



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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



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shadow declarations bug back?

[Dr. Hawkins]

The once common shadow-declaration bug seems to have largely gone away; I
realized that I hadn't seen it in some time.

It seems to have appeared again in 7.1.2_rc1 & rc2; are other people seeing
it again?


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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[Roger Guay]

Sorry if I’m still confused, but isn’t foregroundColor the same as textColor? 
That’s what the Dictionary seems to say.

Cheers,

Roger


> On Feb 11, 2016, at 11:12 AM, William Prothero  
> wrote:
> 
> Roger:
> Thanks, yeah, it was the property inspector. Sorry for the confusion. 
> 
> The 3rd icon from the left along the top, in LC8DP14 (pencil icon) has a 
> number of items that can be set. Foreground color, background color, etc. 
> There is no textcolor choice. In LC 7, the property inspector with the 
> “Colors and Patterns” pane showing, there is a textcolor choice. 
> 
> I use that choice a fair amount, so I miss it.
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:26 AM, Roger Guay  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Bill,
>> 
>> There again, I don’t remember there was ever a way to do that. If you mean 
>> the Property Inspector, then the 4th icon from the left in Property 
>> Inspector’s menu (under the titlebar) will allow to set the text color.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:32 AM, William Prothero  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks:
>>> Sorry. My Bad. I meant the Application Browser. The new LC8DP14 doesn’t 
>>> have a way to set the font color of text in a field. You need to go to the 
>>> toolbar menu. Sorry for the confusion. 
>>> Bill
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:39 PM, William Prothero  
 wrote:
 
 Folks:
 I notice there is no way to set the textfont color of text in a field, in 
 the project browser in LC8Dp14. Is this intentional? I can set it in the 
 toolbar menu, but it seems an omission in the IDE.
 
 Best,
 Bill
 
 
 
 William Prothero, Ph.D.
 University of California, Santa Barbara, Emeritus
 proth...@earthednet.org
 
 
 
 
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Re: Release 8.0 DP 14

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Already reported (dictionary rect stuck out of range)

Swasti Astu! Be Well

( from my mobile )




On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:56 AM -0800, "RM" 
> wrote:

I was playing around with LiveCode 8.0 DP 14 on Windows 7 VMware (as one
does when
life gets a bit tedious on the Linux side: I suppose it's because there
is none of the excitement
of ransomware, viruses, Trojan horses and so on) and could not help but
notice [pomposity at its
best] that the revDictionary stack can be resized vertically, but its
width is stuck permanently
at 1010 pixels:

This is, frankly, a bit silly: especially if you are "VDU challenged"
and stuck with a 1024 x 768 monitor.

It is well-nigh impossible to do some development work and consult the
Dictionary at the same time.

I suppose this should be popped in the Bug reporting system . . . Bug 16910

Richmond.

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Re: Set textfont color in IDE? LC8DP14

[William Prothero]

Peter:
Yep, you’re right. It’s called the Text in vers 7 and I actually didn’t even 
try foregroundcolor. Since textcolor wasn’t mentioned, I just quickly went on.

But, why not call it what it is? Since this is an app for "everybody" why not 
just call it textcolor? That’s what it actually is. If we can use syntax like: 
“put 3 into x” instead of “x=3”, why not try to carry through the entire system 
with the same philosophy and keep the “jargony” things as minimized as possible.

Slight rant: To get livecode to do useful things, you have to actually 
“program”. Whatever the syntax, folks are going to have to look at the 
tutorials, read the dictionary, and be precise. Some of the operations have 
quite sophisticated behaviors. I remember the issue on the way messages are 
sent hither and yon and the different ways of referring to various controls. I 
do feel that the remnants of the hypercard syntax puts off many prospective LC 
coders who have had experience with other languages. It did me and it took 
Director’s demise to get me to look at RunRev/Livecode.

That said, I think the widgets development is a great new feature. But I still 
hate the “put 4 into y” syntax. Just me. I’m over it now.’

PS: Some things ARE truly much easier to set up in livecode, especially 
interface elements.

Best,
Bill

> On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Peter TB Brett  wrote:
> 
> On 11/02/2016 18:12, William Prothero wrote:
>> Roger:
>> Thanks, yeah, it was the property inspector. Sorry for the confusion.
>> 
>> The 3rd icon from the left along the top, in LC8DP14 (pencil icon) has a 
>> number of items that can be set. Foreground color, background color, etc. 
>> There is no textcolor choice. In LC 7, the property inspector with the 
>> “Colors and Patterns” pane showing, there is a textcolor choice.
>> 
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Aren't the text colour and foreground colour the same?
> 
>  Peter
> 
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best LiveCode apps?

[Colin Holgate]

I’m showing LiveCode at a Meetup this evening, and as well as doing some live 
coding it would be nice to show some good apps that were made in LiveCode, 
either from the mobile app stores or the Mac App Store.

Do you all have any suggestions? I don’t need many, so if you can suggest the 
ones you like the most, rather than just a long list of all apps, that would be 
most useful.



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Re: shadow declarations bug back?

[Peter Haworth]

I haven't seen the shadowed variable bug for a long time.  I think it was
established that the bug occurs when execution is stopped by clicking the
blue square icon to stop execution during a debug run. Don't know if the
underlying cause of that has been fixed but I try to remember to let debug
runs continue to the end these days and have not experienced the problem
since.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:23 AM Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> The once common shadow-declaration bug seems to have largely gone away; I
> realized that I hadn't seen it in some time.
>
> It seems to have appeared again in 7.1.2_rc1 & rc2; are other people seeing
> it again?
>
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