Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

It was mostly in response to having lc (in cgi mode) talk to a different
(non-http connected) process.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> It sounds like you're talking about things that apply when your server
> stack is used in a long-running LC process. If you run in CGI mode, you
> don't have to deal with some of those things (like figuring out when to
> reload a stack). Personally I'm glad the on-rev default is CGI mode.
>
> Best -
> Phil Davis
>
>
>
>
> On 1/8/17 7:26 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Sorry I didn't get back to you till now, but it looks like things are
>> covered as far as accessing a stack file from lc server.  As for the other
>> direction, (lc server talking to an in memory stack..)  FROM the stack
>> itself would be a simple http request, but the reverse not so much.
>>
>> I'm now curious though.  If one were to change an lc stack file, and have
>> your executing stack look for an updated timestamp ever so often, you
>> could
>> have it unload the old version, and reload the freshly updated one for
>> processing possibly.  Though it would probably be simpler to have lc
>> server
>> write to a file and just load whatever new data from the file with the
>> stack.
>>
>> Or, if the stack doesn't need to be running all the time, lc server could
>> shell call the stack executable (perhaps a simple stackrunner) that would
>> take an external stackfile name as a parameter to do whatever it is you
>> need to do.
>>
>> Also, depending on what you need to do, the httpd stack by andre garzia is
>> pretty awesome.  (it would bipass the need for lc server, but is single
>> threaded so might not be appropriate for some things)Its been a while
>> since I messed with it, but when I did, I set up an android app that took
>> in swipes and clicks and sent the information to the httpd  stack (and at
>> the time I had managed to build a "click" external.. its probably here
>> somewhere).. basically i had a home brew computer remote control app that
>> was incredibly simple to build, and worked great.  If it fits your use
>> case, that httpd stack is awesome.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephen, Phil, & Jacque,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info!  I’ll get back to you after studying this stuff.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <

>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
 some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:

 https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html

 by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
 useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.

 It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
 Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller"

>>> concept.
>>>
 --
 Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
 mixstream.org

 On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
 wrote:

 here's some basics from the docs
>
> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-
> stacks-with-livecode-server
>
> --
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> mixstream.org
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>>>
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
>>> properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
>>>
>>> And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
>>>
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

It sounds like you're talking about things that apply when your server 
stack is used in a long-running LC process. If you run in CGI mode, you 
don't have to deal with some of those things (like figuring out when to 
reload a stack). Personally I'm glad the on-rev default is CGI mode.


Best -
Phil Davis



On 1/8/17 7:26 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote:

Sorry I didn't get back to you till now, but it looks like things are
covered as far as accessing a stack file from lc server.  As for the other
direction, (lc server talking to an in memory stack..)  FROM the stack
itself would be a simple http request, but the reverse not so much.

I'm now curious though.  If one were to change an lc stack file, and have
your executing stack look for an updated timestamp ever so often, you could
have it unload the old version, and reload the freshly updated one for
processing possibly.  Though it would probably be simpler to have lc server
write to a file and just load whatever new data from the file with the
stack.

Or, if the stack doesn't need to be running all the time, lc server could
shell call the stack executable (perhaps a simple stackrunner) that would
take an external stackfile name as a parameter to do whatever it is you
need to do.

Also, depending on what you need to do, the httpd stack by andre garzia is
pretty awesome.  (it would bipass the need for lc server, but is single
threaded so might not be appropriate for some things)Its been a while
since I messed with it, but when I did, I set up an android app that took
in swipes and clicks and sent the information to the httpd  stack (and at
the time I had managed to build a "click" external.. its probably here
somewhere).. basically i had a home brew computer remote control app that
was incredibly simple to build, and worked great.  If it fits your use
case, that httpd stack is awesome.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hi Stephen, Phil, & Jacque,

Thanks for the info!  I’ll get back to you after studying this stuff.

Rick


On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <

use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:

https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html

by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.

It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller"

concept.

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
wrote:


here's some basics from the docs

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-
stacks-with-livecode-server

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mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
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Hi Stephen,

That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?

Thanks,

Rick


On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <

use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.

I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.

And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.

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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Sorry I didn't get back to you till now, but it looks like things are
covered as far as accessing a stack file from lc server.  As for the other
direction, (lc server talking to an in memory stack..)  FROM the stack
itself would be a simple http request, but the reverse not so much.

I'm now curious though.  If one were to change an lc stack file, and have
your executing stack look for an updated timestamp ever so often, you could
have it unload the old version, and reload the freshly updated one for
processing possibly.  Though it would probably be simpler to have lc server
write to a file and just load whatever new data from the file with the
stack.

Or, if the stack doesn't need to be running all the time, lc server could
shell call the stack executable (perhaps a simple stackrunner) that would
take an external stackfile name as a parameter to do whatever it is you
need to do.

Also, depending on what you need to do, the httpd stack by andre garzia is
pretty awesome.  (it would bipass the need for lc server, but is single
threaded so might not be appropriate for some things)Its been a while
since I messed with it, but when I did, I set up an android app that took
in swipes and clicks and sent the information to the httpd  stack (and at
the time I had managed to build a "click" external.. its probably here
somewhere).. basically i had a home brew computer remote control app that
was incredibly simple to build, and worked great.  If it fits your use
case, that httpd stack is awesome.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen, Phil, & Jacque,
>
> Thanks for the info!  I’ll get back to you after studying this stuff.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:
> >
> > https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html
> >
> > by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
> > useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.
> >
> > It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
> > Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller"
> concept.
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> > mixstream.org
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> here's some basics from the docs
> >>
> >> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-
> >> stacks-with-livecode-server
> >>
> >> --
> >> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> >> mixstream.org
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Stephen,
> >>>
> >>> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Rick
> >>>
>  On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>  stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
>  properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
> 
>  I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
> 
>  And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
> >>>
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Stephen, Phil, & Jacque,

Thanks for the info!  I’ll get back to you after studying this stuff.

Rick

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:
> 
> https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html
> 
> by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
> useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.
> 
> It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
> Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller" concept.
> 
> --
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> mixstream.org
> 
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
> wrote:
> 
>> here's some basics from the docs
>> 
>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-
>> stacks-with-livecode-server
>> 
>> --
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
 On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
 properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
 
 I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
 
 And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
>>> 
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Re: I'm a stupid GIT

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 8 Jan 2017, at 8:00 am, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Malte Brill wrote:
> 
> > I also am a stupid GIT. Way over my head.

It isn’t you know. Everything you need is linked from the README here 
https://github.com/livecode/livecode . 
The only platform that is complicated to build is Windows and that’s largely 
because we need to use very old tooling to support Windows XP.

> That said - can’t this be
> > somehow automated so that one could download nightly builds?
> 
> While nightly builds can be a good practice for many projects, LC is 
> unusually complex, and requires a LOT of time to run their build system.

We do nightly builds and the occasional manually triggered build. We use them 
to manually confirm our bug fixes worked as we intended. I believe we have an 
unadvertised service for a fee to access these internal builds so if you need 
that then it’s worth asking.
> 
> This multiplies the time so much that I would imagine it would take many 
> hours to build a release.

Last I checked it takes about an hour and a half to build all platforms and 
installers etc.

Our process is:

- all patches are built and automated tests are run on the free CI server 
Travis for 64 bit Linux and OS X
- if that passes then someone manually reviews the patch and others might chime 
in with comments
- If it is reviewed OK then we have a bot that polls the github api to check 
for reviewed patches and build against all platforms just to check it builds OK
- If that passes then the patch is merged and the nightly build that includes 
it will be installed to check it so it can be closed on bugzilla.
- The nightly becomes a release once everything we want in has been checked

Cheers

Monte
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Re: {Merry | Happy} [{Christmas | Hanukkah | Solstice | Holidays | Festivus | Saturnalia}]

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 30 Dec 2016, at 7:59 am, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> 
> Stumbled upon a Tim Minchin show in New York a couple of years back
> when one of my team mates happened to be an acquaintance of Tim - his
> mother was best friends with Tim's mother. After the show met up and
> went for dinner with Tim - the whole night was a barrel of laughs.

Very jealous. I have linked the Tim Minchin song that is most relevant to this 
list for those that don’t know what we are talking about ;-) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVKCHZqax84 


Cheers

Monte
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

On 1/8/17 12:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode wrote:

stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.

I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.

And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.


This is my preferred method by far, at least for what I do. My 
"index.lc" landing page looks like this:


Hi Pingdom!"
exit to top
end if

set the errormode to "inline"

-- use lib folder as the default folder
put url ("file:/home/myaccount/myproject/config/libfolder") into tLibFolder
set the defaultFolder to tLibFolder

try -- let the stack script respond to the request
start using stack "projectname.livecode"
catch tErr -- error messages from 'throw' commands
put "ERROR:" & CR before tErr
replace CR with "" in tErr
put tErr
end try
?>

Then the "projectname.livecode" library stack put other stacks into use 
depending on the nature of the request, and together they do absolutely 
everything. (They merge data into pre-made HTML pages and serve them, 
but also keep track of training accounts, titles, licensing, training 
sessions, you name it.)


Names have been changed to protect the innocent. ("Dragnet" music plays 
in background)


Phil Davis



On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
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I’m trying to find out if anyone has ever
gotten a LC server to successfully interact
with a LC Stack running on the same server
such that one can read and write information
to fields on such a stack.




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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

My site is focused on old-style CGI. It's an alternative to LC server 
scripts, which act more like PHP,. Both are viable methods but slightly 
different.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On January 8, 2017 2:49:16 PM Stephen Barncard via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Jacque's site is a great resource for livecode server information.

http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/scripts4.html

there doesn't appear to be many of us, but we who use LC server will
probably never have to use PHP very much any more for our web programming.

And the open source version is the only version!

I improperly credited John Craig for RevIgniter, which of course was
written by Ralf Bitter. Sorry about that.

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mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Stephen Barncard 
wrote:


some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:

https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html

by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.

It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller"
concept.

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
wrote:


here's some basics from the docs

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-stac
ks-with-livecode-server

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mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Hi Stephen,

That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?

Thanks,

Rick

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
> properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
>
> I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
>
> And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.

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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

Jacque's site is a great resource for livecode server information.

http://www.hyperactivesw.com/cgitutorial/scripts4.html

there doesn't appear to be many of us, but we who use LC server will
probably never have to use PHP very much any more for our web programming.

And the open source version is the only version!

I improperly credited John Craig for RevIgniter, which of course was
written by Ralf Bitter. Sorry about that.

--
Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Stephen Barncard 
wrote:

> some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:
>
> https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html
>
> by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
> useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.
>
> It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
> Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller"
> concept.
>
> --
> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
> mixstream.org
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
> wrote:
>
>> here's some basics from the docs
>>
>> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-stac
>> ks-with-livecode-server
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> > On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
>>> > properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
>>> >
>>> > I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
>>> >
>>> > And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
>>>
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

some stack use info as used in web app RevIgniter:

https://revigniter.com/userGuide/general/using_stacks.html

by the way, RevIgniter is a self-contained framework that you might find
useful for all kinds of web development in livecode.

It might be a little different than your own programming style, but John
Craig's creation is a living example of the "Model-View-Controller" concept.

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On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Stephen Barncard 
wrote:

> here's some basics from the docs
>
> http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-
> stacks-with-livecode-server
>
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> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> > On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
>> > properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
>> >
>> > And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

here's some basics from the docs

http://lessons.livecode.com/m/4070/l/36656-how-do-i-use-stacks-with-livecode-server

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On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:17 PM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
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> Hi Stephen,
>
> That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> > On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
> > properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
> >
> > I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
> >
> > And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.
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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Stephen,

That sounds promising.. do you know of any good examples?

Thanks,

Rick

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
> properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.
> 
> I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.
> 
> And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.

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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

stacks are great with LC server. For instance, one can use custom
properties and libraries just by 'start using' that stack.

I'm not sure about fields but I think they are accessible too.

And one can test and edit everything 'on the ground' first.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m trying to find out if anyone has ever
> gotten a LC server to successfully interact
> with a LC Stack running on the same server
> such that one can read and write information
> to fields on such a stack.
>



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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi Mike,

I’m looking at all options here.  So yes, I’d like to 
be able to do the first option, and would like to
know if the second option is possible, and if there
are any examples out there for it.  Both animals
would be welcome in the barn so long as they
can co-exist with each other.

Thanks,

Rick

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you mean a simple interaction, IE lc server loads the stack, gets or
> changes something on the stack, and save the changes to the stack, thats a
> pretty straight forward thing.  If you mean inter-process communication
> between lc server and an actively running stack, thats a different animal
> entirely.

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Re: Where LC store preferences in Windows 10?

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Thanks a lot Panos and Phil,

I trashed the whole RunRev folder from the prefrences and tried again. It
loaded! Yaaay! Again, thanks for the help, you're awesome!

Om om
andre

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Phil Davis via use-livecode <
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> Hi Andre,
>
> Might the prefs be in the registry instead? (Seems unlikely, but just
> trying to cover all possibilities)
>
> Phil Davis
>
>
> On 1/8/17 11:24 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Hey Friends,
>>
>> Just a crash on my surface yesterday and now LC doesn't launch. Removed
>> all
>> the dozen versions I had installed and reinstalled 8.1.2 but it still
>> doesn't launch.
>>
>> If this was on a Mac I'd go to the preferences folder and trash the runrev
>> files there but on Windows I have no idea where that is. Can someone point
>> me to the correct location?
>>
>> om om
>> andre
>>
>>
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Re: Where LC store preferences in Windows 10?

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Andre,

See in

C:/Users/your_user_name/AppData/Roaming/RunRev/Preferences/ folder

You should see one or two files there:

livecode.rev --> Prefs for LiveCode versions < 7
livecode7.rev --> Prefs for LiveCode 7 and 8 and 9

I suggest removing both of them.

Best,

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> Hey Friends,
>
> Just a crash on my surface yesterday and now LC doesn't launch. Removed all
> the dozen versions I had installed and reinstalled 8.1.2 but it still
> doesn't launch.
>
> If this was on a Mac I'd go to the preferences folder and trash the runrev
> files there but on Windows I have no idea where that is. Can someone point
> me to the correct location?
>
> om om
> andre
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Re: Where LC store preferences in Windows 10?

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

Hi Andre,

Might the prefs be in the registry instead? (Seems unlikely, but just 
trying to cover all possibilities)


Phil Davis


On 1/8/17 11:24 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote:

Hey Friends,

Just a crash on my surface yesterday and now LC doesn't launch. Removed all
the dozen versions I had installed and reinstalled 8.1.2 but it still
doesn't launch.

If this was on a Mac I'd go to the preferences folder and trash the runrev
files there but on Windows I have no idea where that is. Can someone point
me to the correct location?

om om
andre



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Re: Code signing an installer?

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Thanks, Paul. 
Bill

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 1/8/2017 12:28 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:
>> Folks,
>> I make a standalone (OSX) app, then build an installer. Do I need to code 
>> sign both the app and the installer package separately?
>> 
>> 
> 
> We've been successful -  so far - with just signing the installer.
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Where LC store preferences in Windows 10?

[Andre Garzia via use-livecode]

Hey Friends,

Just a crash on my surface yesterday and now LC doesn't launch. Removed all
the dozen versions I had installed and reinstalled 8.1.2 but it still
doesn't launch.

If this was on a Mac I'd go to the preferences folder and trash the runrev
files there but on Windows I have no idea where that is. Can someone point
me to the correct location?

om om
andre

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Re: Code signing an installer?

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On 1/8/2017 12:28 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:
> Folks,
> I make a standalone (OSX) app, then build an installer. Do I need to code 
> sign both the app and the installer package separately?
>
>

We've been successful -  so far - with just signing the installer.

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Re: LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

If you mean a simple interaction, IE lc server loads the stack, gets or
changes something on the stack, and save the changes to the stack, thats a
pretty straight forward thing.  If you mean inter-process communication
between lc server and an actively running stack, thats a different animal
entirely.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Rick Harrison via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I’m trying to find out if anyone has ever
> gotten a LC server to successfully interact
> with a LC Stack running on the same server
> such that one can read and write information
> to fields on such a stack.
>
> If so, could you please point me to some good
> examples or other resources for this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
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LC Server & Server Based Stack?

[Rick Harrison via use-livecode]

Hi there,

I’m trying to find out if anyone has ever
gotten a LC server to successfully interact
with a LC Stack running on the same server
such that one can read and write information
to fields on such a stack.

If so, could you please point me to some good
examples or other resources for this?

Thanks,

Rick
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Code signing an installer?

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Folks,
I make a standalone (OSX) app, then build an installer. Do I need to code sign 
both the app and the installer package separately?

Thx,
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Mark Schonewille via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I saw this and had to think of your post, Tom.
> 
> http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-08
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Mark Schonewille
> http://economy-x-talk.com
> https://www.facebook.com/marksch
> 
> Buy the most extensive book on the
> LiveCode language:
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> 
> Op 06-Jan-17 om 23:17 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:
>> gotta say... looking at livecode.com it  is very clear that livecode is
>> nearly hoping that people won't notice that there is an open source version
>> and buy a license because they didn't know any better.
>> 
>> shadyshady.. almost understandable, but why go open source if you
>> gonna pretend like you aren't?
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Keith Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:11, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>>> 
>>> What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they
 need to shout a bit louder
 about the Open Source version
 
>>> 
>>> Amen! The FOSS, Community edition is a great thing, and it's
>>> 
>>> It'd also be great if the mother ship would also consider, one day, a more
>>> inexpensive way to step up to the level where App Store submission is
>>> possible, perhaps as a short-term (say, 1 month?) window, bundled with
>>> advice for efficient App Store submission? Perhaps something similar for
>>> HTML5 publication in the future? LC is wonderful, but it is feeling more
>>> and more like a product with a 'keep out, professionals only' label on the
>>> virtual box... :-/
>>> 
>>> Me, I'd SO glad I got Indy in time to keep annual cost just about
>>> affordable. I make peanuts (at most!) from what I build, but that's not the
>>> point for me; it's just too much fun not to be part of the LC builder
>>> community. I did once hope HTML5 would be available as part of that, but
>>> sadly it's separate. :(
>>> 
>>> k
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
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>>> Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London)
>>> Technical Editor, MacUser magazine (1997-2015)
>>> http://PanoramaPhotographer.com
>>> http://thatkeith.com
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Re: Subject - LiveCode - I'm not a very happy Bunny

[Mark Schonewille via use-livecode]

I saw this and had to think of your post, Tom.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-01-08

Kind regards,

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Op 06-Jan-17 om 23:17 schreef Tom Glod via use-livecode:

gotta say... looking at livecode.com it  is very clear that livecode is
nearly hoping that people won't notice that there is an open source version
and buy a license because they didn't know any better.

shadyshady.. almost understandable, but why go open source if you
gonna pretend like you aren't?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM, Keith Martin  wrote:


On 4 Jan 2017, at 14:11, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

What this message should tell the people on the mother-ship is that they

need to shout a bit louder
about the Open Source version



Amen! The FOSS, Community edition is a great thing, and it's

It'd also be great if the mother ship would also consider, one day, a more
inexpensive way to step up to the level where App Store submission is
possible, perhaps as a short-term (say, 1 month?) window, bundled with
advice for efficient App Store submission? Perhaps something similar for
HTML5 publication in the future? LC is wonderful, but it is feeling more
and more like a product with a 'keep out, professionals only' label on the
virtual box... :-/

Me, I'd SO glad I got Indy in time to keep annual cost just about
affordable. I make peanuts (at most!) from what I build, but that's not the
point for me; it's just too much fun not to be part of the LC builder
community. I did once hope HTML5 would be available as part of that, but
sadly it's separate. :(

k

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Re: how to create a list in easyJSON

[pink via use-livecode]

In the most recent version of easyJSON, numeric keyed arrays will turn into
JSON arrays, older versions may vary. 

fastJSON does this by default, but it can be overridden by passing true into
the keepNumeric parameter: 
arrayToJson(pArrayData, keepNumeric) 

for example: 
put arrayToJSON(inputArray,true) into jsonOutput 


hh via use-livecode wrote
> As a warning for others, fastJSON is not directly interchangeable with
> easyJSON.
> 
> I'm using a big array that has a couple levels of numeric keys before you
> get to the text keys. When fastJSON converts the array to JSON it throws
> out the numeric keys and just turns everything into a list.
> 
> I don't think that would actually be a problem, except that in my data
> structure the [0] key has important metadata in it and when fastJSON
> converts back from JSON to an array it doesn't start counting at 0, so all
> of the data comes back but it's offset.
> 
> At least, this is the newest version of fastJSON from github and some old
> version of easyJSON that I've had around for a long time (not sure what
> version it is).
> 
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Bob Sneidar 

> bobsneidar@

> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm... all of this may explain why a table in a PDF fillable form breaks
>> the controls out as columns, not records. So when populating an FDF file,
>> my data needs to have each column in it's own variable, or else I have to
>> do nested repeats to place it all correctly.
>>
>> Bob S
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Re: how to create a list in easyJSON

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In the most recent version of easyJSON, numeric keyed arrays will turn into
JSON arrays, older versions may vary.

fastJSON does this by default, but it can be overridden by passing true into
the keepNumeric parameter:
arrayToJson(pArrayData, keepNumeric)

for example:
put arrayToJSON(myArray,true) into jsonOutput






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Greater Toronto Area LiveCode Users Meetup, Jan. 25th, 2017

[Martin Koob via use-livecode]

This is a chance to exchange tips, demo projects and uses of LiveCode. 

Bring your project along to demo and get or share tips!

See full event details here:
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To attend Please join the GTA LiveCode Meetup group and RSVP so we can
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LC-Magick Collection

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Added today #5: Circular (Polar) Image Distortion.

The distortion output is, not only in LC, somehow "jagged" at the border. I 
tried
to "soften" border using graphic effects. Bernd (bn) already showed me a nearly
perfect method for #4 (will be updated soon), sadly this can't handle 
transparency.
To everybody who's interested in image distortion methods:
Is there a general improvement for my method/settings in #5 (see the script of 
btn
"Effects")?

> *** LC-Magick Collection ***
> 
> LC-Magick #1 - Blur and Pixelate (Scott R.)
> http://tactilemedia.com/blog/2016/03/26/update-blur-effect-plus-pixelize-bonus/
> 
> LC-Magick #2 - Pointillize and Hatching
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=141051#p141051
> 
> LC-Magick #3 - Image Multiplexing
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=141272#p141272
> 
> LC-Magick #4 - Perspective Image Distortion
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=148647#p148647
> 
> LC-Magick #5 - Circular (Polar) Image Distortion
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=148647#p148647
> 
> Most of it based on ideas presented on imageMagick's documentation
> http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/

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