SVG powered images

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

This mousedown script shows a rough preview
of the SVG animation if you put it into the image:

 on mousedown
put the id of me into tID
repeat while the mouse is down
send "processSVG tID" to widget "SVGBrowser1"
end repeat
 end mousedown

Al
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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

To do an animation it would need a continuous but interruptible callback loop - 
with delayed sending for the next iteration after the previous iteration has 
finished.

I think it is doable.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 9:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Hermann,
> 
> I tried to apply your script, but just get an error.
> Surely, it's because I do follow correctly
> your instructions:
> 
>> You could try to leave out the "liveCode.JStoLC" from the html.
>> Instead send the conversion 'delayed", 1 tick should be enough:
> local svgb="SVGBrowser1"
> send "processSVG tID" to widget svgb
> put "var dd=document.getElementById('canvas1');" & \
> "liveCode.JStoLC(dd.toDataURL(),tID)") into js
> send "do js in widget svgb" to me in 1 tick
> 
> By the way, open and resize an animated SVG like this:
> https://openclipart.org/download/188969/WalkingMan.svg
> 
> Notice how it changes to different animation frames
> each time that you resize the image. :D
> 
> Al
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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

I tried splitting up the chain like this. Even sending in 10 milliseconds did 
not work. The best test is to close LiveCode then open it back up and run the 
stack. If resizing one of the images works the first time, then it is good. 

However, delaying the command to send for the image does not work for the first 
resizing of the image in this scenario.

The way it is posted right now seems to work fine. I am going to leave it that 
way for now, while I try to find a way to detect when the canvas is fully 
rendered in JavaScript.

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> On May 11, 2017, at 7:24 PM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could try to leave out the "liveCode.JStoLC" from the html.
> Instead send the conversion 'delayed", 1 tick should be enough:
> 
> local svgb="SVGBrowser1"
> send "processSVG tID" to widget svgb
> put "var dd=document.getElementById('canvas1');" & \
> "liveCode.JStoLC(dd.toDataURL(),tID)") into js
> send "do js in widget svgb" to me in 1 tick
> 
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Re: SVG powered images

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

My mistake, that previous message should read:
I tried to apply your script, but just get an error.
Surely, it's because I do NOT followed correctly
your instructions

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Alejandro Tejada 
wrote:

> Hi Hermann,
>
> I tried to apply your script, but just get an error.
> Surely, it's because I do follow correctly
> your instructions:
>
> > You could try to leave out the "liveCode.JStoLC" from the html.
> > Instead send the conversion 'delayed", 1 tick should be enough:
>  local svgb="SVGBrowser1"
>  send "processSVG tID" to widget svgb
>  put "var dd=document.getElementById('canvas1');" & \
>  "liveCode.JStoLC(dd.toDataURL(),tID)") into js
>  send "do js in widget svgb" to me in 1 tick
>
> By the way, open and resize an animated SVG like this:
> https://openclipart.org/download/188969/WalkingMan.svg
>
> Notice how it changes to different animation frames
> each time that you resize the image. :D
>
> Al
>
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SVG powered images

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi Hermann,

I tried to apply your script, but just get an error.
Surely, it's because I do follow correctly
your instructions:

> You could try to leave out the "liveCode.JStoLC" from the html.
> Instead send the conversion 'delayed", 1 tick should be enough:
 local svgb="SVGBrowser1"
 send "processSVG tID" to widget svgb
 put "var dd=document.getElementById('canvas1');" & \
 "liveCode.JStoLC(dd.toDataURL(),tID)") into js
 send "do js in widget svgb" to me in 1 tick

By the way, open and resize an animated SVG like this:
https://openclipart.org/download/188969/WalkingMan.svg

Notice how it changes to different animation frames
each time that you resize the image. :D

Al
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Re: SVG powered images

[hh via use-livecode]

You could try to leave out the "liveCode.JStoLC" from the html.
Instead send the conversion 'delayed", 1 tick should be enough:

 local svgb="SVGBrowser1"
 send "processSVG tID" to widget svgb
 put "var dd=document.getElementById('canvas1');" & \
 "liveCode.JStoLC(dd.toDataURL(),tID)") into js
 send "do js in widget svgb" to me in 1 tick


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

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> On 11 May 2017, at 10:32 pm, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?

I have wanted something like this for a while. Xcode has it and I use it all 
the time. But I think "go to definition" creating a breadcrumb would also be 
handy. There’s lots of things that would be handy… complete project tree in the 
script editor for one.

Cheers

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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Did some more research. Yup - the image renders in the canvas asynchronously. 
So, on first load it is exporting the canvas image before that image is 
rendered.

Going to see if I can add an event handler that is triggered when the canvas is 
finished.

Thanks for the tip :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 5:59 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Ah
> 
> Yes - the svg data is cached.
> 
> That would explain why it must happen for every image.
> 
> Thanks Hermann.
> 
> I will tinker some more.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 11, 2017, at 5:52 PM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>>> JL wrote:
>>> If it were from that, then we could not switch back and forth
>>> between resizing different images. It would show the output of
>>> the previous image processed. But that does not happen.
>>> I thought I chained the commands linearly, but I will check
>>> that again.
>> 
>> I didn't say the second call shows the result from the _previous_ call,
>> I said it shows the result from the meanwhile finished _first_ call
>> (with that svg data, that is thereafter cached).
>> 
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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Ah

Yes - the svg data is cached.

That would explain why it must happen for every image.

Thanks Hermann.

I will tinker some more.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2017, at 5:52 PM, hh via use-livecode 
 wrote:

>> JL wrote:
>> If it were from that, then we could not switch back and forth
>> between resizing different images. It would show the output of
>> the previous image processed. But that does not happen.
>> I thought I chained the commands linearly, but I will check
>> that again.
> 
> I didn't say the second call shows the result from the _previous_ call,
> I said it shows the result from the meanwhile finished _first_ call
> (with that svg data, that is thereafter cached).
> 
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Re: SVG powered images

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> JL wrote:
> If it were from that, then we could not switch back and forth
> between resizing different images. It would show the output of
> the previous image processed. But that does not happen.
> I thought I chained the commands linearly, but I will check
> that again.

I didn't say the second call shows the result from the _previous_ call,
I said it shows the result from the meanwhile finished _first_ call
(with that svg data, that is thereafter cached).


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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Thanks Hermann 

If it were from that, then we could not switch back and forth between resizing 
different images. It would show the output of the previous image processed. But 
that does not happen.

I thought I chained the commands linearly, but I will check that again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 5:25 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ajelandro,
> 
> I have thought a bit about how to show a browser animation through an image 
> object.
> 
> I think it can be done, but might use a lot of processing power.
> 
> Could be really cool with webgl animations.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 11, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> This stack opens up a lot of new possibilities.
>> Many thanks again for sharing! :D
>> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/830/SVG-Powered-Images
>> 
>> If we modify SVG file on the custom property mysvgdata
>> Does images updates automatically?
>> 
>> How could we load an animated svg and play it,
>> frame by frame, using the png image?
>> For example, this Mechanical Gears animation:
>> https://openclipart.org/download/228417/gear-anim.svg
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your answers and
>> Keep Up this Great Work! :D
>> 
>> Al
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Re: SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Thanks Ajelandro,

I have thought a bit about how to show a browser animation through an image 
object.

I think it can be done, but might use a lot of processing power.

Could be really cool with webgl animations.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> This stack opens up a lot of new possibilities.
> Many thanks again for sharing! :D
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/830/SVG-Powered-Images
> 
> If we modify SVG file on the custom property mysvgdata
> Does images updates automatically?
> 
> How could we load an animated svg and play it,
> frame by frame, using the png image?
> For example, this Mechanical Gears animation:
> https://openclipart.org/download/228417/gear-anim.svg
> 
> Thanks in advance for your answers and
> Keep Up this Great Work! :D
> 
> Al
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Re: SVG powered images

[hh via use-livecode]

Jonathan,

nice idea and clever work, congratulations.

Two remarks:

(1) Actually the svg-to-png conversion method toDataUrl() yields 
at most a 96 dpi image.
So, if you scale the svg once to an image of twice the maximum size
you will need, then set the resizequality of that image to "best"
and scale it down _with LC_ to the size you actually need, you may
have better results on some devices.

(2) You speak in your help of a "peculiar bug". It is not a bug.
It is a first look at the js "callback hell":
The call of "liveCode.JStoLC(myImage,tID);" in your html comes too
early. The second call then shows the result of meanwhile finished
first call.

Hermann

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
> Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the
> built-in trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow
> script flow from one handler to the one that called it, to the one
> that called that, the back to the second one until I see another
> reference, then jump to that one, see what it does, then back to the
> first one, then on to another one.

Yes, quite different from the original problem statement, and more 
reflective of my own needs as well.


Right now I make liberal use of the "Lookup Definition" item in the 
context menu, but that only goes one way.


I once considered making a static analysis tool that would provide a 
list of handlers with specific line numbers for a flow of execution.


Not surprisingly, I also decided the time it would take to do that would 
exceed the time it would save me. :)


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SVG powered images

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi Jonathan,

This stack opens up a lot of new possibilities.
Many thanks again for sharing! :D
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/830/SVG-Powered-Images

If we modify SVG file on the custom property mysvgdata
Does images updates automatically?

How could we load an animated svg and play it,
frame by frame, using the png image?
For example, this Mechanical Gears animation:
https://openclipart.org/download/228417/gear-anim.svg

Thanks in advance for your answers and
Keep Up this Great Work! :D

Al
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Re: ANN: new team member

[Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode]

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Roger Eller via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> on babyStartup
> set babysFather to "Ali Loyd"
> -- write to permanent memory
> if unconditional = true then
>put "love" into tForeverAndAlways
> end if
> end babyStartup
>

on sleep

do 15 or 20 minutes a night

awe, who are we kidding

wait three months with messages

end attempt to sleep


:)

congratulations.

We found that at about 10 lbs, they hold enough food to sleep through the
night.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

Maybe show something like the executionContexts as a list in a palette, 
and be able to go back and forth to the referenced lines by clicking the 
lines?


Phil Davis


On 5/11/17 12:18 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 5/11/17 2:09 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back
and forth than not having to jump at all?



Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the built-in 
trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow script flow 
from one handler to the one that called it, to the one that called 
that, the back to the second one until I see another reference, then 
jump to that one, see what it does, then back to the first one, then 
on to another one.


How many split windows would that take?



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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 5/11/17 2:09 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back
and forth than not having to jump at all?



Well, I don't usually jump only once. If I do, I just use the built-in 
trick I described. But what I usually need to do is follow script flow 
from one handler to the one that called it, to the one that called that, 
the back to the second one until I see another reference, then jump to 
that one, see what it does, then back to the first one, then on to 
another one.


How many split windows would that take?

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Re: ANN: new team member

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On 05/11/2017 09:56 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:


He may be the father (why 'new'; did the baby have a previous father?)


Fathers are always previous to babies.


of a potential programmer.


Potential comes pre-programmed. To make it kinetic you have to add work.

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Re: ANN: new team member

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On 5/11/17 11:51 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby
programmer.



Ali, congats to you and your wife! In case you find yourself a bit 
overwhelmed with the new arrival, I offer some humble child-rearing tips 
you might find useful:




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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?


That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


Yes, that's what I'm thinking of: what could be better than jumping back 
and forth than not having to jump at all?


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 5/11/17 9:45 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Tiemo Hollmann wrote:


When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it.
Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep
in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the
list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward"
button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not
like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?


Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split
views?



That would be really good for editing, but back/forward is better for 
tracing script flow which is mostly what I want it for.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Randy Hengst wrote:

> I’m a little late to this party, but I’ve thought it would be handy
> to have a “sort by most recent” button on the handler list… like in
> apple mail and desktop folders.

With all due respect to those who've worked on the SE, the last thing 
I'd want to see added to is more metadata and the complexity inherent in 
keeping it up to date.


This may be another reason this need is most commonly handled in other 
editors with a split view.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

I’m a little late to this party, but I’ve thought it would be handy to have a 
“sort by most recent” button on the handler list… like in apple mail and 
desktop folders.


be well,
randy


> On May 11, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Richmond via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will, Thanks.
> 
> 
> Richmond.
> 
> 
> On 11.05.2017 20:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> No. Try it. I use it all the time.
>> -- 
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>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
 limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
 definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
 script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
 remains hilited so you can find it again easily.
 
 But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
 list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
 is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
 -- 
 Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
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 On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
 use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
 
 When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
> Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
> forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo
> 
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RE: new team member

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Ali,

Congrats!! My best wishes for the new arrival!!

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby
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ANN: new team member

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Congratulations, Ali! :D

Blessings and Good Wishes for
all in your family!

Al
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SVG powered images

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi everyone,

I just uploaded version 1 of a stack called "SVG Powered Images" onto 
livecodeshare.

Just go to livecodeshare.runrev.com and sort for the newest upload. This stack 
makes it practical to use fully scalable SVG files in your stack.

It is not as good as having a full SVG object, but it is the next best thing. 
It does use the browser widget, which could be an issue for some situations.

Peace,

J

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Re: ANN: new team member

[Tore Nilsen via use-livecode]

They come with just the OS, no supporting software is provided.

Congratulations to Ali. Hopefully he will find that improving on LiveCode is a 
good way to make sleepless nights go so much faster.

Regards 
Tore N


> 11. mai 2017 kl. 19.08 skrev Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Wait! You have to program the babies???
> 
> Bob S

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Re: ANN: new team member

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

on babyStartup
set babysFather to "Ali Loyd"
-- write to permanent memory
if unconditional = true then
   put "love" into tForeverAndAlways
end if
end babyStartup


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> Wait! You have to program the babies???
>
> Bob S
>
>
> > On May 11, 2017, at 09:51 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richmond via use-livecode]

I will, Thanks.


Richmond.


On 11.05.2017 20:11, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

No. Try it. I use it all the time.
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On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
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Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose 
"go to

definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.

But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, 
the
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that 
much

is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
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On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
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When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. 
Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, 
at which

handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a 
browser) to

get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo







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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

No. Try it. I use it all the time.
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On May 11, 2017 11:23:32 AM Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode 
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Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.

But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on

handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo







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Re: ANN: new team member

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Wait! You have to program the babies???

Bob S


> On May 11, 2017, at 09:51 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
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> Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby 
> programmer.
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Re: ANN: new team member

[Phil Davis via use-livecode]

Congratulations Ali!

Is there a whisky fund where we can send donations?

Phil Davis



On 5/11/17 9:51 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby 
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[pink via use-livecode]

Have you looked into lcTaskList?

I often use it to give myself quick bookmarks/placeholders, so long as you
already know where you are going to want to be.

It is reasonably priced and tops my listed of recommended plugins.



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Re: ANN: new team member

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

I doubt that very much.

He may be the father (why 'new'; did the baby have a previous father?)
of a potential programmer.

Either way: congratulations to Ali!

Richmond.

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Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby 
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ANN: new team member

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

Word from the grapevine is that Ali Lloyd is the new father of a baby 
programmer.


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 05/11/2017 07:51 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

GLX2 had a neat concept called breadcrumbs. Maybe someone could dig into the 
code and see what made breadcrumbs work, then incorporate it into the main 
script editor.

Bob S


Feel free to do so.
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[ANN] Release 8.1.4 RC-2

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2.

Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents


LiveCode 8.1.4 RC-2 contains 11 important bug fixes and stability
improvements:

- Several crashes have been fixed.
- New version of tsNet (1.2.8) that addresses various network-related bugs
is included.
- Xcode 8.3.x and iOS 10.3 support is added (requires MacOS Sierra)
- A couple of IDE-related regressions have been fixed.

The full release notes are available from:
http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_4/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_4_rc_2.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team


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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Jacque, are you confusing the dictionary with the script editor?


On May 11, 2017 7:17 PM, "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very
> limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to
> definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new
> script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list
> remains hilited so you can find it again easily.
>
> But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the
> list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much
> is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> On May 11, 2017 7:35:41 AM Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
>> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
>> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
>> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers.
>> Wouldn't
>> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
>> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again
>> forward,
>> where I 've already been?
>>
>> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
>> requesting such a feature?
>>
>> Tiemo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I've wanted this for years. There is half a way to do it, but it's very 
limited. Right click on a handler name in calling handler and choose "go to 
definition". It will scroll to the handler in the script or open a new 
script tab if necessary. The orginal start position in the handler list 
remains hilited so you can find it again easily.


But it's far from perfect. If you click anywhere in the new handler, the 
list selection changes. And it only works for one hop. But even that much 
is useful for a quick check on what a particular handler does.

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When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

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Re: Using a hidden browser widget to create a perfectly scalable LC control

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

I agree - but I need fully scalable controls for Augmented Earth now, not 
later, and the current SVG objects are not complete.

My app uses the browser widget anyway, so not worried about the overhead.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> jonathandlynch wrote:
> 
> > I just did an experiment. It appears to be possible to have an image
> > object that stores svg data in a custom property. It connects to a
> > hidden browser widget to do the following:
> >
> > - squirt the svg data into an HTML canvas
> > - resize the svg image using the setscale() method
> > - export the resized image (with transparency) to a variable
> > - pass that variable back to LC
> > - set the image content of the image to that variable
> >
> > The entire operation took 4 milliseconds for a moderate sized svg
> > image.
> >
> > This means we could have svg-quality resizable images, for responsive
> > design scripts.
> 
> Clever workaround, but looking at the bigger picture of platform adoption, do 
> we really want to tell new users that to display SVGs you need to embed an 
> entire browser application inside your application?
> 
> What is the purpose of the existing SVG widget if not to render SVGs?
> 
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Re: Using a hidden browser widget to create a perfectly scalable LC control

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Alejandro Tejada wrote:

>> What is the purpose of the existing SVG widget
>> if not to render SVGs?
>
> SVG widget does not render SVG.

To paraphrase the late great Mr. Jobs, why doesn't it do that?

What purpose does an SVG widget serve if not to bring SVG into LC?

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Using a hidden browser widget to create a perfectly scalable LC control

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

> What is the purpose of the existing SVG widget
> if not to render SVGs?

SVG widget does not render SVG.
SVG widget uses the path data of SVG to draw
a vector graphic.

More surprising is learning that still today,
does not exist a SVG render that
fully cover the SVG specification...
SVG renders within web browsers are close,
really close, but incomplete.

LC SVG widget should target SVG Tiny or SVG Basic
(Specification 1.1) https://www.w3.org/TR/SVGMobile/

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Wikipedia

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

The LiveCode page at Wikipedia is so out of date portions are now incorrect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiveCode

I'm not able to update that right now, but if any of you get to it first 
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

GLX2 had a neat concept called breadcrumbs. Maybe someone could dig into the 
code and see what made breadcrumbs work, then incorporate it into the main 
script editor. 

Bob S


> On May 11, 2017, at 05:32 , Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo

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Re: Using a hidden browser widget to create a perfectly scalable LC control

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

jonathandlynch wrote:

> I just did an experiment. It appears to be possible to have an image
> object that stores svg data in a custom property. It connects to a
> hidden browser widget to do the following:
>
> - squirt the svg data into an HTML canvas
> - resize the svg image using the setscale() method
> - export the resized image (with transparency) to a variable
> - pass that variable back to LC
> - set the image content of the image to that variable
>
> The entire operation took 4 milliseconds for a moderate sized svg
> image.
>
> This means we could have svg-quality resizable images, for responsive
> design scripts.

Clever workaround, but looking at the bigger picture of platform 
adoption, do we really want to tell new users that to display SVGs you 
need to embed an entire browser application inside your application?


What is the purpose of the existing SVG widget if not to render SVGs?

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Tiemo Hollmann wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it.
> Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep
> in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the
> list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward"
> button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not
> like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?

Isn't that the use-case that in other editors is supported with split views?

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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Tiemo,
+1
Bill P

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On May 11, 2017, at 6:16 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> This would be a great enhancement. Coming from VB land I really miss the VB
> IDE right click "Last position" menu option in LC.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:33 AM
> To: LiveCode User Liste senden
> Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB
> Subject: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
> editor?
> 
> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
> 
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Using a hidden browser widget to create a perfectly scalable LC control

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Hi Alejandro,

I am almost done. It has a weird bug where the widget only works after the 
first attempt for each image. It works great after that. I will get it, though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2017, at 11:09 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>> On May 10, 2017, Hermann wrote:
>> This is essentially already done by Alejandro with SVGtoPNG,
>> see the Forum/RichMedia.
> 
> Many Thanks for remember these stacks! :D
> They worked more as an experiment or a Proof-of-Concept.
> Jonathan's work in this area is the real deal.
> Immediately useful and easy to use.
> 
> Jonathan Lynch wrote:
>> Ah - sorry to reinvent the wheel. I already did it, though,
>> and it allows for live near-perfect resizing, so I will go ahead
>> and share it for that one aspect.
> 
> Great! Many thanks for sharing your work. :D
> I hope that you find tine to write a step by step
> tutorial about how to use many useful javascript libraries
> from Livecode. (like bzip2 Javascript libraries)
> Keep Up this great work!
> 
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PDF on Android

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Hi Ralph,

Take a look at this forum thread:
"New approach for offline viewing PDF inside Android browser"
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=53=28518=152687

MaxV uses the javascript library named pdf.js for this purpose.

Al
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RE: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

This would be a great enhancement. Coming from VB land I really miss the VB
IDE right click "Last position" menu option in LC.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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Of Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:33 AM
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Subject: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
editor?

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo

 

 

 

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AW: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

Done: 19683
You can vote for it :)
Tiemo

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von panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
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An: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: panagiotis merakos 
Betreff: Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script
editor?

Tiemo,

This feature would be really really useful. Please feel free to file an
enhancement request.

Panos
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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on 
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. 
> Afterwords I have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep 
> in mind, at which handler I was coming from and click at it in the 
> list of handlers. Wouldn't it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" 
> button, (like in a browser) to get back to the last visited line (not 
> like in a browser) or again forward, where I 've already been?
>
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain 
> requesting such a feature?
>
> Tiemo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Tiemo,

This feature would be really really useful. Please feel free to file an
enhancement request.

Panos
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On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
> handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
> have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
> handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
> it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
> get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
> where I 've already been?
>
> Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
> requesting such a feature?
>
> Tiemo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a "back/forward" button in script editor?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

When working on longer scripts with a lot of handlers, I often work on
handler 1 and have to jump to handler 2 to have a look at it. Afterwords I
have to go back to my handler 1. Nowadays I have to keep in mind, at which
handler I was coming from and click at it in the list of handlers. Wouldn't
it be nice, to have a "back" and "forward" button, (like in a browser) to
get back to the last visited line (not like in a browser) or again forward,
where I 've already been?

Am I the only one, working like this, or is it my overflowed brain
requesting such a feature?

Tiemo

 

 

 

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AW: Update strategy?

[Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode]

Even if you try to keep the code in the "update launcher" as small as possible, 
there can still keep the whish to update the "update launcher" itself, as you 
say. E.g. I once had to revise the options on how to check for a new update in 
the "update launcher". Starting a download, launching the downloaded update 
installer and exiting itself can update anything you want including the 
launcher itself.
Tiemo


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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017 20:00
An: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Graham Samuel 
Betreff: Re: Update strategy?

Yes, but what if you want to update the launcher itself? Maybe I have made my 
‘splash’ stack too rich in function, but I can easily see it needing revision. 
Because of this, I’m thinking of altering the structure of the app so that the 
update code is more or less all that is in the standalone recognised by the 
operating system, and all other stacks (including 90 percent of the original 
splash stack) are simply downloaded after the decision whether to update is 
made. Or is this stupid?

Thanks as ever for your reply.

Graham

> On 10 May 2017, at 19:08, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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> 
> On 5/10/17 8:10 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:
>> I have already got the idea of the text file and the test you 
>> mention. I now have to experiment with the “open invisible” approach.
>> I have had so many problems with the IDE when trying to open two 
>> stacks with the same name (it’s impossible AFAIKR - because LC 
>> doesn’t have any hierarchical concept of stack names).
> 
> I put the update code into the standalone launcher, and run it before it 
> opens the data stack. That way you don't have two data stacks at the same 
> time.
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