Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Bug 20327.

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 1:19 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Terry Judd via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

OK will do – it seems to be present in all version of LC 8 that I have 
(8.1.3, 8.1.4 and 8.1.6) as well as LC 9.0.0 (dp 8).

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 1:09 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:


> On 5 Sep 2017, at 1:08 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Seems like it’s not required anyway. Would be interested to know what 
it does (or doesn’t do) though.

Can you open a report with a screenshot of the offending inclusion. 
Something isn’t right but I’m not sure what it is at this stage,

Cheers

Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

OK will do – it seems to be present in all version of LC 8 that I have (8.1.3, 
8.1.4 and 8.1.6) as well as LC 9.0.0 (dp 8).

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 1:09 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:


> On 5 Sep 2017, at 1:08 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Seems like it’s not required anyway. Would be interested to know what it 
does (or doesn’t do) though.

Can you open a report with a screenshot of the offending inclusion. 
Something isn’t right but I’m not sure what it is at this stage,

Cheers

Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 1:08 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seems like it’s not required anyway. Would be interested to know what it does 
> (or doesn’t do) though.

Can you open a report with a screenshot of the offending inclusion. Something 
isn’t right but I’m not sure what it is at this stage,

Cheers

Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Seems like it’s not required anyway. Would be interested to know what it does 
(or doesn’t do) though.

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 1:01 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Terry Judd via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

Interesting! If you go into the inclusions tab of the standalone builder 
it’s the first listed one that has an icon that looks like a black book (comes 
after the clock widget in my list).

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 12:35 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Hmm…. I actually don’t know which date support library you are 
referring to.

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:30 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Ah, ok. Looks like it’s the date support library then. Not sure 
whether I actually need this – I just ticked it a while back (I’m using the 
select inclusions option in the standalone builder) because I do various 
date-based conversions (date items to seconds etc.) and assumed it was 
required??

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Interesting! If you go into the inclusions tab of the standalone builder it’s 
the first listed one that has an icon that looks like a black book (comes after 
the clock widget in my list).

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 12:35 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Hmm…. I actually don’t know which date support library you are referring to.

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:30 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Ah, ok. Looks like it’s the date support library then. Not sure whether I 
actually need this – I just ticked it a while back (I’m using the select 
inclusions option in the standalone builder) because I do various date-based 
conversions (date items to seconds etc.) and assumed it was required??

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

Hmm…. I actually don’t know which date support library you are referring to.

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:30 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah, ok. Looks like it’s the date support library then. Not sure whether I 
> actually need this – I just ticked it a while back (I’m using the select 
> inclusions option in the standalone builder) because I do various date-based 
> conversions (date items to seconds etc.) and assumed it was required??

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Ah, ok. Looks like it’s the date support library then. Not sure whether I 
actually need this – I just ticked it a while back (I’m using the select 
inclusions option in the standalone builder) because I do various date-based 
conversions (date items to seconds etc.) and assumed it was required??

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 12:15 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Yes exactly like that. So it’s a matter of trying to work out which of the 
externals you are using isn’t doing what it’s meant to do.

Cheers

Monte


> On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:11 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Hi Monte - something like this?
> 
> Sep  5 12:07:27 51002-B114578 mdQuiz_QA[38329]: Startup error: failed to 
load module
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 assertiond[38283]: assertion failed: 
14F2511 13C75: assertiond + 12188 [8CF1968D-3466-38B7-B225-3F6F5B64C552]: 0x1
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: HW kbd: Failed to set 
(null) as keyboard focus
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received 
error for message: Connection interrupted
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received 
error for message: Connection invalid
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 
com.apple.CoreSimulator.SimDevice.65EDADBA-A52F-46BB-B1D8-77671CAB8234.launchd_sim[38262]
 (UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2][38329]): Service exited 
due to signal: Abort trap: 6
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: Application 
'UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2]' crashed.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 5/09/2017 12:00 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:
> 
>Hmm… sometimes the engine expecting an external and it not being found 
looks like a crash at startup. If you look at the simulator log and there’s 
something like Startup error -  then that could be it. If it’s that 
then the remote debugger won’t have a chance to start at that point.
> 
>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:52 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Monte - that sounds pretty simple  :)
>> 
>> Problem is that my app loads in the simlulator then immediately quits – 
this is on LC 9.0.0 (dp 8) - it works fine in 8.1.6  :(
>> 
>> The first time I try ‘testing’ it I get a message along the lines of...
>> 
>> Unable to start simulation: The operation couldn’t be completed.
>> (PBSOpenApplicationErrorDomain error 1.)
>> 
>> ...if that means anything.
>> 
>> Terry...
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/09/2017 11:40 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on 
iOS – I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know 
that you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, 
but beyond that...
>> 
>>   Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)
>> 
>>   It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the 
standalone so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an 
issue with android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved in 
the latest DPs.
>> 
>>   Cheers
>> 
>>   Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

Yes exactly like that. So it’s a matter of trying to work out which of the 
externals you are using isn’t doing what it’s meant to do.

Cheers

Monte


> On 5 Sep 2017, at 12:11 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Monte - something like this?
> 
> Sep  5 12:07:27 51002-B114578 mdQuiz_QA[38329]: Startup error: failed to load 
> module
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 assertiond[38283]: assertion failed: 14F2511 
> 13C75: assertiond + 12188 [8CF1968D-3466-38B7-B225-3F6F5B64C552]: 0x1
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: HW kbd: Failed to set 
> (null) as keyboard focus
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received error 
> for message: Connection interrupted
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received error 
> for message: Connection invalid
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 
> com.apple.CoreSimulator.SimDevice.65EDADBA-A52F-46BB-B1D8-77671CAB8234.launchd_sim[38262]
>  (UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2][38329]): Service exited 
> due to signal: Abort trap: 6
> Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: Application 
> 'UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2]' crashed.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 5/09/2017 12:00 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Hmm… sometimes the engine expecting an external and it not being found 
> looks like a crash at startup. If you look at the simulator log and there’s 
> something like Startup error -  then that could be it. If it’s 
> that then the remote debugger won’t have a chance to start at that point.
> 
>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:52 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Monte - that sounds pretty simple  :)
>> 
>> Problem is that my app loads in the simlulator then immediately quits – this 
>> is on LC 9.0.0 (dp 8) - it works fine in 8.1.6  :(
>> 
>> The first time I try ‘testing’ it I get a message along the lines of...
>> 
>> Unable to start simulation: The operation couldn’t be completed.
>> (PBSOpenApplicationErrorDomain error 1.)
>> 
>> ...if that means anything.
>> 
>> Terry...
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/09/2017 11:40 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
>> use-livecode" > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on iOS – 
>>> I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know that 
>>> you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, 
>>> but beyond that...
>> 
>>   Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)
>> 
>>   It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the 
>> standalone so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an 
>> issue with android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved 
>> in the latest DPs.
>> 
>>   Cheers
>> 
>>   Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Hi Monte - something like this?

Sep  5 12:07:27 51002-B114578 mdQuiz_QA[38329]: Startup error: failed to load 
module
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 assertiond[38283]: assertion failed: 14F2511 
13C75: assertiond + 12188 [8CF1968D-3466-38B7-B225-3F6F5B64C552]: 0x1
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: HW kbd: Failed to set (null) 
as keyboard focus
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received error 
for message: Connection interrupted
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: BSXPCMessage received error 
for message: Connection invalid
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 
com.apple.CoreSimulator.SimDevice.65EDADBA-A52F-46BB-B1D8-77671CAB8234.launchd_sim[38262]
 (UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2][38329]): Service exited 
due to signal: Abort trap: 6
Sep  5 12:07:28 51002-B114578 SpringBoard[38279]: Application 
'UIKitApplication:com.unimelb.mdassess.quiz[0x13e2]' crashed.

Terry...


On 5/09/2017 12:00 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Hmm… sometimes the engine expecting an external and it not being found 
looks like a crash at startup. If you look at the simulator log and there’s 
something like Startup error -  then that could be it. If it’s that 
then the remote debugger won’t have a chance to start at that point.

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:52 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Thanks Monte - that sounds pretty simple  :)
> 
> Problem is that my app loads in the simlulator then immediately quits – 
this is on LC 9.0.0 (dp 8) - it works fine in 8.1.6  :(
> 
> The first time I try ‘testing’ it I get a message along the lines of...
> 
> Unable to start simulation: The operation couldn’t be completed.
> (PBSOpenApplicationErrorDomain error 1.)
> 
> ...if that means anything.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 5/09/2017 11:40 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on 
iOS – I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know 
that you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, 
but beyond that...
> 
>Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)
> 
>It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the 
standalone so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an 
issue with android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved in 
the latest DPs.
> 
>Cheers
> 
>Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

Hmm… sometimes the engine expecting an external and it not being found looks 
like a crash at startup. If you look at the simulator log and there’s something 
like Startup error -  then that could be it. If it’s that then the 
remote debugger won’t have a chance to start at that point.

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:52 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Monte - that sounds pretty simple  :)
> 
> Problem is that my app loads in the simlulator then immediately quits – this 
> is on LC 9.0.0 (dp 8) - it works fine in 8.1.6  :(
> 
> The first time I try ‘testing’ it I get a message along the lines of...
> 
> Unable to start simulation: The operation couldn’t be completed.
> (PBSOpenApplicationErrorDomain error 1.)
> 
> ...if that means anything.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> 
> On 5/09/2017 11:40 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on iOS – 
>> I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know that 
>> you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, 
>> but beyond that...
> 
>Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)
> 
>It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the 
> standalone so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an 
> issue with android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved 
> in the latest DPs.
> 
>Cheers
> 
>Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Thanks Monte - that sounds pretty simple  :)

Problem is that my app loads in the simlulator then immediately quits – this is 
on LC 9.0.0 (dp 8) - it works fine in 8.1.6  :(

The first time I try ‘testing’ it I get a message along the lines of...

Unable to start simulation: The operation couldn’t be completed.
(PBSOpenApplicationErrorDomain error 1.)

...if that means anything.

Terry...


On 5/09/2017 11:40 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:


> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on iOS 
– I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know that 
you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, but 
beyond that...

Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)

It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the 
standalone so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an 
issue with android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved in 
the latest DPs.

Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

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> On 5 Sep 2017, at 11:36 am, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on iOS – 
> I’d be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know that 
> you need to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, but 
> beyond that...

Well in theory just click the Test button ;-)

It does depend on being able to open sockets to communicate with the standalone 
so the most likely issues will be firewall related. There was an issue with 
android requiring internet permission but that should be resolved in the latest 
DPs.

Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Actually, what is the process for getting remote debugging to work on iOS – I’d 
be happy to get it working in the simulator to start with. I know that you need 
to use a business licensed version of LC 9 to have access to it, but beyond 
that...

Terry...

On 5/09/2017 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Dave Kilroy via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

I have never been able to get it working (except in iOS simulator) - in the 
past I’ve tried all sorts of things (including booking a session at my local 
Apple shop to see if they could find any problem with the bluetooth etc on my 
mbp and various iOS devices - never a glimmer of anything - maybe at some stage 
in the future when I get a new dev machine…

Kind regards

Dave


> Mine never did come back. I haven't seen it in months. 
> 
> On 9/4/17 6:41 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> > Too late - it just came back again. 
> > 
> > I'm on MacOS 10.10.5 - no extra firewall or security software running. 
> > 
> > Now that I'm alert to it, if it happens again I'll (likely) notice it 
> > immediately, and take more note of what happened just before it. 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Alex. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 05/09/2017 00:09, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: 
> >>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> >>> <[hidden email] 
>
 wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find 
> >>> the right search term to find it :-) 
> >>> 
> >>> I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 
> >>> Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, 
> >>> for no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote 
> >>> debug session. 
> >>> 
> >>> How do I get it back ? 
> >>> 
> >>> Did I do something to make it go in a huff ? 
> >> This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try 
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Dave Kilroy via use-livecode]

I have never been able to get it working (except in iOS simulator) - in the 
past I’ve tried all sorts of things (including booking a session at my local 
Apple shop to see if they could find any problem with the bluetooth etc on my 
mbp and various iOS devices - never a glimmer of anything - maybe at some stage 
in the future when I get a new dev machine…

Kind regards

Dave


> Mine never did come back. I haven't seen it in months. 
> 
> On 9/4/17 6:41 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
> 
> > Too late - it just came back again. 
> > 
> > I'm on MacOS 10.10.5 - no extra firewall or security software running. 
> > 
> > Now that I'm alert to it, if it happens again I'll (likely) notice it 
> > immediately, and take more note of what happened just before it. 
> > 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> > Alex. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 05/09/2017 00:09, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: 
> >>> On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
> >>> <[hidden email] 
> >>> >
> >>>  wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find 
> >>> the right search term to find it :-) 
> >>> 
> >>> I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 
> >>> Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, 
> >>> for no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote 
> >>> debug session. 
> >>> 
> >>> How do I get it back ? 
> >>> 
> >>> Did I do something to make it go in a huff ? 
> >> This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try 
> >> temporarily disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing. 
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Actually this isn't really fair, I haven't set it up for some time. Maybe 
I'll try it again.


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Mine never did come back. I haven't seen it in months.

On 9/4/17 6:41 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:

Too late - it just came back again.

I'm on MacOS 10.10.5 - no extra firewall or security software running.

Now that I'm alert to it, if it happens again I'll (likely) notice it
immediately, and take more note of what happened just before it.

Thanks

Alex.


On 05/09/2017 00:09, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:

On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
 wrote:

I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find
the right search term to find it :-)

I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8
Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly,
for no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote
debug session.

How do I get it back ?

Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?

This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try
temporarily disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing.

Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Mine never did come back. I haven't seen it in months.

On 9/4/17 6:41 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:

Too late - it just came back again.

I'm on MacOS 10.10.5 - no extra firewall or security software running.

Now that I'm alert to it, if it happens again I'll (likely) notice it 
immediately, and take more note of what happened just before it.


Thanks

Alex.


On 05/09/2017 00:09, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:
On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:


I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find 
the right search term to find it :-)


I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 
Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, 
for no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote 
debug session.


How do I get it back ?

Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?
This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try 
temporarily disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing.


Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Too late - it just came back again.

I'm on MacOS 10.10.5 - no extra firewall or security software running.

Now that I'm alert to it, if it happens again I'll (likely) notice it 
immediately, and take more note of what happened just before it.


Thanks

Alex.


On 05/09/2017 00:09, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:

On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
 wrote:

I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find the right 
search term to find it :-)

I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 Business), for 
the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, for no reason I can 
think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote debug session.

How do I get it back ?

Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?

This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try temporarily 
disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing.

Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I'm having a slightly different problem on ios that I'm trying to diagnose
- doing remote debugging with mergAV causes the mobile app to crash.

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode <
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>
> > On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find the
> right search term to find it :-)
> >
> > I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8
> Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, for
> no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote debug
> session.
> >
> > How do I get it back ?
> >
> > Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?
>
> This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try
> temporarily disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing.
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 5 Sep 2017, at 9:03 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find the 
> right search term to find it :-)
> 
> I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 Business), for 
> the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, for no reason I can 
> think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote debug session.
> 
> How do I get it back ?
> 
> Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?

This does sound a bit like what Jacque has experienced. Can you try temporarily 
disabling any firewalls or web shields and testing.

Cheers

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remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

I'm sure I've seen this question on the list ... but just can't find the 
right search term to find it :-)


I've been using the remote debugger (on Android, with 9.0.0DP8 
Business), for the last day or so. And then tonight it just suddenly, 
for no reason I can think of, stopped asking me if I wanted a remote 
debug session.


How do I get it back ?

Did I do something to make it go in a huff ?

Thanks

Alex.


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Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> I always ask, first.  I want the author involved in ensuring that I
> have the thing maintained and up-to-date.

Excellent. Thanks.

A Github marketing rep gave a talk at our local Linux user group a 
couple months back, and I was surprised when she told us how many repos 
there have no License file at all.


They don't yet require a License file, but they do appreciate good repo 
stewards like you who include them.


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Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I always ask, first.  I want the author involved in ensuring that I have
the thing maintained and up-to-date.

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> > I'm doing this in github, now.  When I see something or someone brings
> > something to my attention, I'm adding a repo for it.  It makes the
> > version control, change notification, etc. easier, imho.
>
> Good to get the author involved if you can.  A repo without a License file
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Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> I'm doing this in github, now.  When I see something or someone brings
> something to my attention, I'm adding a repo for it.  It makes the
> version control, change notification, etc. easier, imho.

Good to get the author involved if you can.  A repo without a License 
file is just dead pixels, there's no way to know how it can be used.


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Re: Subject: Re: LC and OneSignal

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

I'm doing this in github, now.  When I see something or someone brings
something to my attention, I'm adding a repo for it.  It makes the version
control, change notification, etc. easier, imho.

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> On 09/01/2017 04:14 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On 01/09/2017 22:44, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> Enhancement Requests added to the Quality Center for Sample Stacks
>>>
>>>
>>> Good ideas !
>>
>> But I think there are a few more things that need to be done to make this
>> more useful. If I was sure enough about them, I'd just add as enhancement
>> requests - but I'm not yet. So I'll mention them here, and then put in
>> requests based on, or incorporating, any suggestions.
>>
>> A.  Currently the top level taxonomy is
>>  Stack vs External (there are none of them) or Code sample.
>>
>
> There are none of them because you can't upload them.
> Only .rev stacks.
>
> F. Maybe even better if there were an automatic way to "require"
>> libraries, have them downloaded if needed to somewhere like   ~/My
>> LIvecode/SampleLibraries/, etc.
>>
>
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Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Thanks again Mark – it’s all printing nicely now without having to close and 
open the target stack.

Regards,

Terry...

 
On 4/09/2017 5:47 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Waddingham via 
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On 2017-09-04 09:20, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:
> Thanks Mark - I wasn't aware of that setting. I'll try setting it to
> true before I print each report and see what happens. Based on the
> dictionary entry it sounds like I'll need to set it back to false
> again before my script updates all the report's various templates, and
> perhaps even close and reopen the stack before turning it back on and
> printing the next report?

The dictionary entry might need an update. Since we added 'fullscreen 
mode', I think the engine is a lot better at 'resetting things' when you 
toggle formatForPrinting on and off.

The 'formatForPrinting' changes the way fonts are handled on Windows to 
ensure that screen-specific hints and metric changes don't occur - 
'fullscreen mode' uses it implicitly internally on Windows too 
(otherwise fonts don't necessarily linearly scale with size, something 
which is quite important for printing!) so you should find you can just 
toggle it on and off.

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Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-09-04 09:20, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:

Thanks Mark - I wasn't aware of that setting. I'll try setting it to
true before I print each report and see what happens. Based on the
dictionary entry it sounds like I'll need to set it back to false
again before my script updates all the report's various templates, and
perhaps even close and reopen the stack before turning it back on and
printing the next report?


The dictionary entry might need an update. Since we added 'fullscreen 
mode', I think the engine is a lot better at 'resetting things' when you 
toggle formatForPrinting on and off.


The 'formatForPrinting' changes the way fonts are handled on Windows to 
ensure that screen-specific hints and metric changes don't occur - 
'fullscreen mode' uses it implicitly internally on Windows too 
(otherwise fonts don't necessarily linearly scale with size, something 
which is quite important for printing!) so you should find you can just 
toggle it on and off.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Browser widget android local file problem

[Alan via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque, Jonathan

Thanks for the replies and questions and sorry for the slow reply!. They did 
lead me to question whether my file was being created correctly - it wasn't. 
There also seems to be a difference in the way html files are loaded. Anyway, 
it works now.

Thanks for the info about the documents folder. That prompted me to look into 
the Android system structure so all a learning experience. Now getting up to 
speed with monitoring + debugging on the device + simulators. Whew.


Now I just came across another interesting problem - after bringing up the 
running apps on Android and swiping to remove one from memory, now when I go to 
run the same app again, it comes up with a black (blank) screen but "appears" 
to be running. Looking at logcat, I see that there's been an error with 
navbar.lcb, log as follows:


09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): errorDialog 863,0,0,runtime
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 864,0,0,error exporting foreign '' value: numeric overflow
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 865,0,0,navbar.lcb
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 866,0,0,812
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): Error: An error occurred on line: 0
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 863,0,0,runtime
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 864,0,0,error exporting foreign '' value: numeric overflow
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 865,0,0,navbar.lcb
09-04 16:55:53.623: I/LiveCode(25535): 866,0,0,812

Wonder if anyone else has seen this and presumably it should be reported as a 
bug?

So many device differences are such a PITA.

Thanks again for your help!

cheers

Alan


> On 25 Aug 2017, at 12:27 am,   wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alan - setting the htmltext of the widget works fine for me. My map data 
> comes from Bing. What is going wrong when you do that?



> On 25 Aug 2017, at 6:52 am, "J. Landman Gay" wrote:
> 
> 
> Like on a desktop machine, the folders are located in different places 
> in the file hierarchy. These are actually virtual folders; they don't 
> really exist since the whole thing is done in memory.
> 
> If you aren't able to get results from the documents folder, I'd have 
> the script check first to make sure the file is really there.
> 
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Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

[Terry Judd via use-livecode]

Thanks Mark - I wasn't aware of that setting. I'll try setting it to true 
before I print each report and see what happens. Based on the dictionary entry 
it sounds like I'll need to set it back to false again before my script updates 
all the report's various templates, and perhaps even close and reopen the stack 
before turning it back on and printing the next report?

Terry...

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Sep 2017, at 4:20 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
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>> On 2017-09-04 06:43, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:
>> Before I bug report this, has anyone else had problems printing styled
>> text to PDF on Windows? I’ve been printing multipage reports (lots of
>> formatting, graphics etc) to PDF using LC on a Mac for ages without
>> any problems (well, not this particular problem at least). However,
>> when I try to do the same on Windows it screws up the text formatting
>> if any of the text within a field to be printed includes bolded or
>> italicised words, introducing adjacent non-existent spaces or (equally
>> bad) rending the styled text so that it overlaps the non-styled text
>> on either side of it. I’ve tried changing the font at the stack and
>> field level, thinking that might help but to no avail. If an entire
>> line or field has a style associated with it then there is no problem.
>> It’s only when styles are mixed within a field.
> 
> Do you have 'the formatForPrinting' of the stack set to true?
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
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Re: Print to PDF output dodgy on Windows

[Mark Waddingham via use-livecode]

On 2017-09-04 06:43, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:

Before I bug report this, has anyone else had problems printing styled
text to PDF on Windows? I’ve been printing multipage reports (lots of
formatting, graphics etc) to PDF using LC on a Mac for ages without
any problems (well, not this particular problem at least). However,
when I try to do the same on Windows it screws up the text formatting
if any of the text within a field to be printed includes bolded or
italicised words, introducing adjacent non-existent spaces or (equally
bad) rending the styled text so that it overlaps the non-styled text
on either side of it. I’ve tried changing the font at the stack and
field level, thinking that might help but to no avail. If an entire
line or field has a style associated with it then there is no problem.
It’s only when styles are mixed within a field.


Do you have 'the formatForPrinting' of the stack set to true?

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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