Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 9/7/17 12:17 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 7 Sep 2017, at 3:15 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Ah. Okay, that explains it. It doesn't put it into an apk you build on disk 
though, right?


I’m not sure what you mean here as you always build on disk? Do you mean save 
as standalone menu? No you need to add it manually in the Inclusions pane if 
you want it there.


Right, that's what I meant: saving a standalone without using the Test 
button, in order to create a file for distribution. Thanks.


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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 3:15 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ah. Okay, that explains it. It doesn't put it into an apk you build on disk 
> though, right?

I’m not sure what you mean here as you always build on disk? Do you mean save 
as standalone menu? No you need to add it manually in the Inclusions pane if 
you want it there.

Cheers

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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 9/6/17 11:47 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 7 Sep 2017, at 2:46 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Here's a new twist. I did not include the remote debugger in a standalone I'm 
building. When I did a test build with my phone cabled to the Mac, LC asked if 
I wanted to start a debugging session. Apparently it doesn't know the app 
didn't include the extension?

At least it's asking me again.


The Test button automatically adds the remote debugger.


Ah. Okay, that explains it. It doesn't put it into an apk you build on 
disk though, right?


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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 2:46 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here's a new twist. I did not include the remote debugger in a standalone I'm 
> building. When I did a test build with my phone cabled to the Mac, LC asked 
> if I wanted to start a debugging session. Apparently it doesn't know the app 
> didn't include the extension?
> 
> At least it's asking me again.

The Test button automatically adds the remote debugger.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: remote debugging just stopped being available.

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Here's a new twist. I did not include the remote debugger in a 
standalone I'm building. When I did a test build with my phone cabled to 
the Mac, LC asked if I wanted to start a debugging session. Apparently 
it doesn't know the app didn't include the extension?


At least it's asking me again.

On 9/5/17 9:58 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

You also have to make sure that both the phone and your machine use he same
internet connection



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Re: windows standalone seems double the file size in every version past 8.14

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 11:54 am, Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> What platform? On mac if you build a universal app you will have standalones 
> twice the size of a single architecture app.

Sorry Tom

I guess I didn’t read the subject line very well :-(

Cheers

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Re: windows standalone seems double the file size in every version past 8.14

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> On 7 Sep 2017, at 6:12 am, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> everything seems to be running fine.. BUT the standalone is twice the
> size.

What platform? On mac if you build a universal app you will have standalones 
twice the size of a single architecture app.

Cheers

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Re: I just posted an Augmented Earth sample stack on LiveCode share

[Alex Tweedly via use-livecode]

Thanks Jonathan, looks interesting - thank you for sharing it.

I have some problems (MacOS 10.10, Mcbook Pro, LC 9.0DP8 Business) - 
will email them to you directly.


But (perhaps) more generally interesting for the list - I then tried to 
download the iPad version, and ran into "This app is not compatible with 
your iPad" - for all 3 of the family's iPads, covering a good range of 
iPad models and IOS versions :-)


A close look at the "compatibility" section on the App store makes me 
think that you require


 " ... + Cellular".

Is there something in Augmented Earth that requires Cellular ?

Or has that flag been set for some reason ?

Thanks

Alex.


On 06/09/2017 03:17, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode wrote:

Hello everyone,

I just posted a sample version of my app on LC share, AKA rev online.

It points to my dev server, so there are no problems with you guys posting
test reports.

Hopefully this will help you guys with 3D mapping experiments you may have.
The sample stack pulls images from open street maps without a license. This
is only appropriate for experimenting. For distributing apps, you will need
to get a license with a map provider.

If anyone has any questions about how to do any of the stuff demonstrated
in the app, please feel free to ask them here.

I posted it leading up to my presentation at LC Global on Sept. 21 on 3D
Earth mapping.

Peace,

Jonathan




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Re: I just posted an Augmented Earth sample stack on LiveCode share

[Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode]

Thanks Bill,

I look forward to your observations.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:15 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for posting this, Jonathon. I’ll definitely look at it. Right now my 
> wife and I are packing up to return to Santa Barbara. We’re in the Columbia 
> Gorge, where there is a wildfire raging about 20 miles away from us and the 
> smoke is a real pain.
> 
> Thanks a bunch for sharing.
> Bill
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I just posted a sample version of my app on LC share, AKA rev online.
>> 
>> It points to my dev server, so there are no problems with you guys posting
>> test reports.
>> 
>> Hopefully this will help you guys with 3D mapping experiments you may have.
>> The sample stack pulls images from open street maps without a license. This
>> is only appropriate for experimenting. For distributing apps, you will need
>> to get a license with a map provider.
>> 
>> If anyone has any questions about how to do any of the stuff demonstrated
>> in the app, please feel free to ask them here.
>> 
>> I posted it leading up to my presentation at LC Global on Sept. 21 on 3D
>> Earth mapping.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
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Re: windows standalone seems double the file size in every version past 8.14

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On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Tom Glod  wrote:

> Yeah...I've been trying to test my stack with versions that are past 8.14
> in hopes that certain glitches are getting resolved. and they are.
>
> everything seems to be running fine.. BUT the standalone is twice the
> size.
>
> what could be causing that?  ...i've seen it a bunch of times now.
>
> I once watched the folder when the standalone is built. and its your
> .livecode file . that gets copied then renamed to exe file . by
> what magic this all happens, I guess I will find out iby looking at the
> build standalone code.
>
> So I'm guessing something isn't getting erased.
>
> any thoughts? i guess is should bug report it too.
>
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windows standalone seems double the file size in every version past 8.14

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Yeah...I've been trying to test my stack with versions that are past 8.14
in hopes that certain glitches are getting resolved. and they are.

everything seems to be running fine.. BUT the standalone is twice the
size.

what could be causing that?  ...i've seen it a bunch of times now.

I once watched the folder when the standalone is built. and its your
.livecode file . that gets copied then renamed to exe file . by
what magic this all happens, I guess I will find out iby looking at the
build standalone code.

So I'm guessing something isn't getting erased.

any thoughts? i guess is should bug report it too.
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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

just fyi. i don't know if this is what u need, but you can easily apply
the same datagrid template to more than one data grid object. which could
achieve the same result as a shared group in most use cases.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Klaus Major wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Am 06.09.2017 um 18:39 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
>>> :
>>>
>>> Did you also set the backgroundBehavior to true on both the row template
>>> group and the DG group?
>>>
>>
>> yes and yes (via msg), but when I want to group the datagrid with one or
>> two buttons I get:
>> Message execution error:
>> Error description: group: cannot group background or shared groups
>>
>
> That would appear to be a separate issue.  Whether it's an IDE bug or an
> engine bug or a user error would depend on details.
>
> If I get some later today I may try to replicate that, and perhaps even
> try the shared DG grid, but no promises as it's a busy day here today.
>
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Re: I just posted an Augmented Earth sample stack on LiveCode share

[William Prothero via use-livecode]

Thanks for posting this, Jonathon. I’ll definitely look at it. Right now my 
wife and I are packing up to return to Santa Barbara. We’re in the Columbia 
Gorge, where there is a wildfire raging about 20 miles away from us and the 
smoke is a real pain.

Thanks a bunch for sharing.
Bill

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I just posted a sample version of my app on LC share, AKA rev online.
> 
> It points to my dev server, so there are no problems with you guys posting
> test reports.
> 
> Hopefully this will help you guys with 3D mapping experiments you may have.
> The sample stack pulls images from open street maps without a license. This
> is only appropriate for experimenting. For distributing apps, you will need
> to get a license with a map provider.
> 
> If anyone has any questions about how to do any of the stuff demonstrated
> in the app, please feel free to ask them here.
> 
> I posted it leading up to my presentation at LC Global on Sept. 21 on 3D
> Earth mapping.
> 
> Peace,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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getResource/getResources?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

I have a project where I need to extract data from the resource fork of 
older Mac files.


Several LC versions ago getResource and getResources no longer worked. 
But I just checked the v8.1.7 Dictionary and they're not marked as 
deprecated.


Anyone here use those on the latest OS X with a version of LC v8 or later?

This is probably the last time I'll need to use those (who uses the res 
fork anymore?), but it'll help determine whether I upgrade one of my 
machines to a newer OS version.


Thanks in advance for any recent hands-on experience with those 
functions you can share.


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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Klaus Major wrote:

Hi Richard,


Am 06.09.2017 um 18:39 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode :

Did you also set the backgroundBehavior to true on both the row template group 
and the DG group?


yes and yes (via msg), but when I want to group the datagrid with one or two 
buttons I get:
Message execution error:
Error description: group: cannot group background or shared groups


That would appear to be a separate issue.  Whether it's an IDE bug or an 
engine bug or a user error would depend on details.


If I get some later today I may try to replicate that, and perhaps even 
try the shared DG grid, but no promises as it's a busy day here today.


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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 18:39 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Did you also set the backgroundBehavior to true on both the row template 
> group and the DG group?

yes and yes (via msg), but when I want to group the datagrid with one or two 
buttons I get:
Message execution error:
Error description: group: cannot group background or shared groups

I was really hoping for a simple solution so I will stop experimenting right 
here! :-)

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> Fourth World Systems
> 
> Klaus Major wrote:
> 
>> Hi Richard,
>>> Am 06.09.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> Klaus major wrote:
>>> > I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
>>> > more than one card.
>>> > Just like every (background behavior) group would do.
>>> I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG turn 
>>> that off?
>> set the sharedtext of the field in the template to true, but no success.
>> Empty fields and even header (column titles) on a new card.
>> I am a afraid a datagrid is not meant to be in a shared bg group.
>> Did not dive into the DG behavior script however, and actually do not feel 
>> to do so...

Best

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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Did you also set the backgroundBehavior to true on both the row template 
group and the DG group?


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Klaus Major wrote:


Hi Richard,


Am 06.09.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode :

Klaus major wrote:

> I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
> more than one card.
> Just like every (background behavior) group would do.

I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG turn 
that off?


set the sharedtext of the field in the template to true, but no success.
Empty fields and even header (column titles) on a new card.

I am a afraid a datagrid is not meant to be in a shared bg group.

Did not dive into the DG behavior script however, and actually do not feel to 
do so...


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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Richard,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 16:37 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus major wrote:
> 
> > I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
> > more than one card.
> > Just like every (background behavior) group would do.
> 
> I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG turn 
> that off?

set the sharedtext of the field in the template to true, but no success.
Empty fields and even header (column titles) on a new card.

I am a afraid a datagrid is not meant to be in a shared bg group.

Did not dive into the DG behavior script however, and actually do not feel to 
do so...

> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems
> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> 
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Best

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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Klaus major wrote:

> I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on
> more than one card.
> Just like every (background behavior) group would do.

I you set the sharedText of the fields in the row template does the DG 
turn that off?


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Re: Something is wrong with 8.1.7 RC1

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I will try to put something together. Hopefully it will work in a simple stack. 
Mine is too big and comples to just send. I tried before and I exceed mail and 
file limits. 

Bob S


> On Sep 5, 2017, at 18:31 , Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 6 Sep 2017, at 8:03 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all. Just tried 8.1.7 RC1 for OS X. My code starts to fail right away. I 
>> have a simple handler called ArrangeMenus, which if not in development mode 
>> removes a couple menu buttons, then bumps the buttons over filling in the 
>> gaps. In 8.1.6 runs fine. In 8.1.7 in a repeat loop I get object is not a 
>> container, and more importantly, variables that the handler just created are 
>> not visible in the debugger, as though the variables do not exist in memory. 
>> 
>> Something is horribly wrong with this build. 
> 
> Bob what do you mean by `if not in development mode` here? Do you mean in a 
> standalone? Or when you are using the pointer tool?
> 
> Cheers
> 
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Re: Something is wrong with 8.1.7 RC1

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Yes, so while I am working in the IDE, the menus appear, but if running in a 
standalone, the handler removes the custom development menus. 

Bob S


> On Sep 5, 2017, at 18:31 , Monte Goulding via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob what do you mean by `if not in development mode` here? Do you mean in a 
> standalone? Or when you are using the pointer tool?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Monte


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Re: TSNet error 6

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

You know, I remember this happened to me a while back. There was a junior 
Pastor who liked to sit at this one coffee shop nearby to do his sermons. Old 
laptop no problem. New laptop, he couldn't even CONNECT to their wifi. He could 
everywhere else, just not this ONE coffee shop. 

Bob S


> On Sep 5, 2017, at 21:29 , Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jacque,
> 
> Any of those error codes (6, 7 or 35) are reasonable if you are operating in 
> an area with a really poor connection.
> 
> When you are operating on a public wifi, it could have a lot to do with how 
> the wifi is configured, as Bob mentioned below.  How these are configured can 
> vary greatly.
> 
> Depending on how far you want to go with testing, you could try see if your 
> app can communicate with other sites when at these coffee shops.  Does it 
> only have trouble with HTTPS sites, or just certain sites?  If you browse to 
> a site first with Chrome, does your app then work afterwards?  Does it have 
> trouble if you try connect via the IP address rather than the hostname?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Craig,

> Am 06.09.2017 um 15:02 schrieb dunbarx via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Klaus. 
> 
> Not sure what you mean. Is it that you want specific fields (or all of them)
> in a DG to have their sharedText property set to true? 

no, I just wanted to display the SAME data in the same datagrid on more than 
one card.
Just like every (background behavior) group would do.

> You can do this by hand: 
> set the sharedText of fld "col 1 0001" to "true" 

Yes, but I can also forbear this! :-D

> Craig

Best

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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

Klaus. 

Not sure what you mean. Is it that you want specific fields (or all of them)
in a DG to have their sharedText property set to true? 

You can do this by hand: 

set the sharedText of fld "col 1 0001" to "true" 

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Re: datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

Klaus.

Not sure what you mean. Is it that you want specific fields (or all of them)
in a DG to have their sharedText property set to true?

You can do this by hand:

set the sharedText of fld "col 1 0001" to "true"

Craig



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Re: livecode changes image colors without being asked to do it

[Robert Brenstein via use-livecode]

Thanks Sean. I finally had time to check your file and indeed it 
displays correctly in 8.1.6.


It still displays wrong in 7.1.3, but it displays differently than the 
file without profile, so this must be the profile issue that was fixed 
in 8.1.3.


In other words, my problem is with the way jpeg file were generated. It 
would be nice if LC handled such files like Preview does or at least 
returned a warning that profile is missing.


Robert

On 1 Sep 2017, at 2:34, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote:


Hi Robert

I have looked at this and it is reacting this way because a correct
CMYK colorspace profile has not been embedded into the jpeg file.
LiveCode, therefore, has no idea how to interpret the colors and
handles them in an almost raw state oversaturating them. Adding the
closest profile to its natural state helps, in this instance, US Web
Coated (SWOP) v2.

I've attached another source jpg to test with which has this embedded 
profile.


http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20316


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On 1 September 2017 at 00:11, Robert Brenstein via use-livecode <
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I just tested this in LC 8.1.6 and it shows the same problem as 
7.1.3. I
filed a bug report for the team to check into this, including the 
files.

Bug 20316.

Robert


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datagrid in group with backgroundbehavior?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

the subject says it all, someone tried and succeeded to put a datagrid 
into a group and place this goup on more than one card?

But since the fields in a datagrid (table) obviously have their "sharedtext"
prop set to false, I doubt this is possible at all. Any hints welcome!

But that would be a nice feature, right? :-)


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Re: Something is wrong with 8.1.7 RC1

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

This sounds like a regression. Please do file a bug report (and don't
forget to include a sample stack :) ) and we will fix it in 8.1.7 RC-2.

Best,
Panos
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>
> > On 6 Sep 2017, at 8:03 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all. Just tried 8.1.7 RC1 for OS X. My code starts to fail right
> away. I have a simple handler called ArrangeMenus, which if not in
> development mode removes a couple menu buttons, then bumps the buttons over
> filling in the gaps. In 8.1.6 runs fine. In 8.1.7 in a repeat loop I get
> object is not a container, and more importantly, variables that the handler
> just created are not visible in the debugger, as though the variables do
> not exist in memory.
> >
> > Something is horribly wrong with this build.
>
> Bob what do you mean by `if not in development mode` here? Do you mean in
> a standalone? Or when you are using the pointer tool?
>
> Cheers
>
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Re: TSNet error 6

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I'll have to find out the answers and do a little more testing. I didn't 
have any trouble at all today at a coffee shop near me but one of the 
testers has found a very reliable bad network so I can ask him to try the 
things you've mentioned.


We were joking today that we have good news - - everything fails really 
well now.


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On September 5, 2017 11:32:22 PM Charles Warwick via use-livecode 
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Hi Jacque,

Any of those error codes (6, 7 or 35) are reasonable if you are
operating in an area with a really poor connection.

When you are operating on a public wifi, it could have a lot to do with
how the wifi is configured, as Bob mentioned below.  How these are
configured can vary greatly.

Depending on how far you want to go with testing, you could try see if
your app can communicate with other sites when at these coffee shops. 
Does it only have trouble with HTTPS sites, or just certain sites?  If
you browse to a site first with Chrome, does your app then work
afterwards?  Does it have trouble if you try connect via the IP address
rather than the hostname?

Cheers,

Charles


On 6/09/2017 6:37 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

Okay, so three of us have been running around for a couple of days
trying to find "bad" internet connections. Sometimes we walk to the
limits of our router until we barely get a connection, and we get curl
error 35. At some coffee shops with a solid connection we get error 6,
once error 7. Sometimes Slack works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes
we don't have any problems at all on public wifi.

I think this is out of our control.

On 9/5/17 11:08 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

That is interesting. Coffe Shops/Public Wifi typically use a proxy
server and that may be what is restricting your DNS resolution. And
yeah it could definitely be a router issue as well. Sometimes I have
to reboot the router at work. No rhyme or reason, it just stops
passing traffic and I have to reset it. Wireless is black magic
voodoo anyways.

Bob S



On Sep 2, 2017, at 06:46 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
 wrote:

In today's episode, the user was in a coffee house using the free
wifi (it was one of my testers, there on purpose for testing). The
app could not resolve the host though the connection would have been
constant.
When he tests from his own home everything works, as it does for all
of us on the team.

We're wondering if https has anything to do with it. He could
connect to anything with Chrome but both my app and Slack would not
work using https. Could that be a factor?

We need to keep testing to see if https is really the cause, we're
not quite sure yet.



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Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.7 RC-1

[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

Possibly several steps back might be better than total stagnation.

As I have demonstrated by my article in "Hello World" I'm not always
averse to backward steps if they serve some purpose.

Richmond.

On 9/5/17 10:18 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Well, that would take us a step (or lots of steps!) back :)

The dictionary in LC < 8 is totally different, it is a .livecode stack that
displays .xml files (e.g. the dictionary entries).

In LC 8+ it uses a browser widget, and all the entries have been re-written
to .lcdoc files. This makes it more easily maintainable and extensible.

BTW the bug I was referring to (in LC 8), which describes a workaround is
this one:

http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16848

Workaround described in comment 81(!) and/or 96(!)

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Here's a really dangerous, radical thought . . .

as the Dictionary DOES WORK for LC 7.1.4 with Linux would it not be
possible to
port that for LC 9?

Richmond.


On 9/5/17 9:25 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:


Hi all,

There are 2 different issues:

1. The dictionary on Linux (and the browser widget in general) does not
work **in some systems** in LC 8.x. This is not distro-specific, but
rather
locale-specific, and there is a workaround described in the bug report.

2. The dictionary on Linux (and the browser widget) does not work at all
in
LC 9.0 DP-7+. This is mentioned as a "known issue" in the release email.
We
have spent *a lot* of hours trying to fix this, but with no result. We
believe that the issue is caused by an incompatibility of the current
version of CEF we use (needed for the browser widget), and we think the
issue will be fixed when we update the version of CEF we use.
Unfortunately
this is not an easy task, so I do not expect it to be fixed in LC 9.0
DP-9.

best,
Panos
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Warren Samples wrote:

On 09/05/2017 12:06 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

The Linux version of LiveCode is STILL NOT loading a dictionary.

[ I see that that problem has been "solved" in LC 9 dp 8 by simply
inactivating the Dictionary button on Linux. ]


I have no problems with the dictionary in openSUSE (an unsupported
distro!) in any LC 8.x version including this one. In fact, I haven't
encountered this issue in any of the many different unsupported
distros I've tested.

I do, however, suffer from the problem with the dictionary/browser in
the later versions of LC 9. Aren't these issues the result of at least
two distinct problems?


Thanks for the info, Warren.  I see similar results here under Ubuntu
14.04 and 16.04:  v8.1.7rc1 opens the Dictionary well, v.9dp8 doesn't.

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