Re: Export GIF File Does Retain Frames of Animation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Thank you, Mike. Works here too!

Cheers,

Roger

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:55 PM, Mike Bonner via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> instead do this..
> put img "myGif" into url ("binfile:Usersrogerguay/Desktop/myGif2.gif")
> just tried it here, and it seems to work.
> 

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Re: Export GIF File Does Retain Frames of Animation

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

instead do this..
put img "myGif" into url ("binfile:Usersrogerguay/Desktop/myGif2.gif")
just tried it here, and it seems to work.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I meant does NOT retain . . . .
>
> > On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am importing gif animations into my project but find that when they
> are subsequently exported, they are just one frame of the original
> animation. Here is my code:
> >
> > export image  “myGif" to file "/Users/rogerguay/Desktop/“&"myGif2"&".gif"
> as gif
> >
> >
> > Help please.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roger
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Re: Export GIF File Does Retain Frames of Animation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

I meant does NOT retain . . . .

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:50 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am importing gif animations into my project but find that when they are 
> subsequently exported, they are just one frame of the original animation. 
> Here is my code:
> 
> export image  “myGif" to file "/Users/rogerguay/Desktop/“&"myGif2"&".gif" as 
> gif
> 
> 
> Help please.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Roger
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Atkinson dither algorithm

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Tom Glod wrote:
> wow! my brain hurts.

Still pending:
1) creating a command line application
2) compiling an external
3) building a widget

In the forum thread, Hermann already demonstrated
how to apply this algorithm using Javascript within
the browser widget.

But creating each one of these would be topic
for another thread! :-)

Al
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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

I had no idea you were lurking here. :)


On 10/19/17 4:42 PM, Rich Watson via use-livecode wrote:

J.

I was getting ready to post that, so I went to find our old emails to find
out the dates.

T'was published on GameTap on June 19th, 2008. I do not know if it is still
available anywhere.

:)

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Export GIF File Does Retain Frames of Animation

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

I am importing gif animations into my project but find that when they are 
subsequently exported, they are just one frame of the original animation. Here 
is my code:

export image  “myGif" to file "/Users/rogerguay/Desktop/“&"myGif2"&".gif" as gif


Help please.

Thanks,

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Re: Atkinson dither algorithm

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

wow! my brain hurts.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
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> Hermann, your script version won the
> LiveCode Script speed contest! :-)
>
> I feel humbled and grateful that many of you
> have taken time to look at this. Although an
> image dithering algorithm seems trivial an
> barely useful, the fact is that in this thread,
> we have pushed Livecode script almost to
> it's speed limits.
>
> After we reach Livecode scripts natural limits,
> the next step is
> 1) creating a command line application, or
> 2) building an external, or (like Hermann demonstrated)
> 3) using Javascript within the browser widget or
> 4) the next frontier: Livecode widgets.
>
> This platform does not lack options to get the job
> done. It just require time and expertise to select
> the best options for each phase of a particular project.
>
> Later today, after I finished testing an application in
> different computers, will update the forum final's
> stack version with Alex and Hermann scripts.
>
> Thanks a lot again! :-D
>
> Al
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Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

I wasn't aware that there was objections and controversies when it comes to
this everything has a deeper history than just the surface I guess.

Forgive my ignorance on the subject.  Gonna leave this skeleton right where
it is though.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Wasn't yesterday VisiCalc's birthday?  If ever there was a case of IP
> ripoff, it was that one.
>
> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> > Tom Glod wrote:
> > > Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals 
> > > among other things.. that when he invented Hypercard he was 
> >
> > If you ask Walter Cooke, he answers:
> >
> > "I too miss HyperCard, but I also used Xerox's Notecards software BEFORE
> > Bill invented Apple's version for the Macintosh.
> >
> > Google "Xerox Notecards" to read some history of where the concept and OO
> > implementation originated. Poor Xerox - they invented so much but
> couldn't
> > market their way out of a wet paper bag. A lot of educators were very
> > impressed with Notecards and wanted at their universities real bad. The
> > military loved it for buiding real-time visual simulations. I wanted to
> use
> > it for building bond trading software. Unfortunately Xerox workstation
> cost
> > $30K apiece at that time!
> >
> > I remember arguing with Andy Hertzfeld at the '87 MacWorld Expo where
> > HyperCard was announced and demoed on the sexy new Mac II. He was adamant
> > that HyperCard bore no resemblance to Notecards, but grudgingly agreed
> that
> > he HAD seen Notecards at Xerox and knew what it was. Hmmm.."
> >
> > http://post.spmailt.com/f/a/ioIEMDuP10-XlG589Hs0Zg~~/AAGp3AA~/RgRbyk_cP0EIACz0hAuIUUJXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb18xYAw1Mi4zOS4yNi4xNDRCCgAAXBzpWct516ZSHXVzZS1saXZlY29kZUBsaXN0cy5ydW5yZXYuY29tCVEEAEQyaHR0cHM6Ly9hcHBsZS5zbGFzaGRvdC5vcmcvc3RvcnkvMDQvMDMvMzEvMTU1MDIxNi9HAnt9
> hypercard-gone-for-good
> >
> > BUT if you ask Paul Heckel, he would say:
> > "Zoomracks was first..."
> >
> > http://post.spmailt.com/f/a/pBqWSS-9L0TY6juiDLxQgg~~/AAGp3AA~/RgRbyk_cP0EIACz0hAuIUUJXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb18xYAw1Mi4zOS4yNi4xNDRCCgAAXBzpWct516ZSHXVzZS1saXZlY29kZUBsaXN0cy5ydW5yZXYuY29tCVEEAEQ2aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hdGFyaW1hZ2F6aW5lcy5jb20vc3RhcnR2Mm4zL2h5cGVyY2FyZC5odG1sRwJ7fQ~~
> >
> > And now that I remember Paul Heckel, read about his winning lawsuit
> against
> > Apple for patent-infringement:
> > http://post.spmailt.com/f/a/GP1VFaIec0p7bLPgLJisoA~~/AAGp3AA~/RgRbyk_cP0EIACz0hAuIUUJXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb18xYAw1Mi4zOS4yNi4xNDRCCgAAXBzpWct516ZSHXVzZS1saXZlY29kZUBsaXN0cy5ydW5yZXYuY29tCVEEAEQ5aHR0cDovL3d3dy5ueXRpbWVzLmNvbS8xOTg5LzEyLzIwL2J1c2luZXNzL2FwcGxlLWlzLXNhaWQtRwJ7fQ~~
> > to-settle-suit.html
> >
> > Al
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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[Rich Watson via use-livecode]

J.

I was getting ready to post that, so I went to find our old emails to find
out the dates.

T'was published on GameTap on June 19th, 2008. I do not know if it is still
available anywhere.

:)

RAWA


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On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
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> On 10/19/17 1:48 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> I remember Cosmic Osmo. :D
>>
>> Still today, this game is available from Steam gaming platform:
>> http://store.steampowered.com/app/63620/Cosmic_Osmo_and_the_
>> Worlds_Beyond_the_Mackerel/
>>
>
> That port (Windows only) was done in LiveCode. :)
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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 10/19/17 1:48 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote:

I remember Cosmic Osmo. :D

Still today, this game is available from Steam gaming platform:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/63620/Cosmic_Osmo_and_the_Worlds_Beyond_the_Mackerel/


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Re: Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Wasn't yesterday VisiCalc's birthday?  If ever there was a case of IP
ripoff, it was that one.

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:24 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Tom Glod wrote:
> > Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals 
> > among other things.. that when he invented Hypercard he was 
>
> If you ask Walter Cooke, he answers:
>
> "I too miss HyperCard, but I also used Xerox's Notecards software BEFORE
> Bill invented Apple's version for the Macintosh.
>
> Google "Xerox Notecards" to read some history of where the concept and OO
> implementation originated. Poor Xerox - they invented so much but couldn't
> market their way out of a wet paper bag. A lot of educators were very
> impressed with Notecards and wanted at their universities real bad. The
> military loved it for buiding real-time visual simulations. I wanted to use
> it for building bond trading software. Unfortunately Xerox workstation cost
> $30K apiece at that time!
>
> I remember arguing with Andy Hertzfeld at the '87 MacWorld Expo where
> HyperCard was announced and demoed on the sexy new Mac II. He was adamant
> that HyperCard bore no resemblance to Notecards, but grudgingly agreed that
> he HAD seen Notecards at Xerox and knew what it was. Hmmm.."
>
> https://apple.slashdot.org/story/04/03/31/1550216/hypercard-gone-for-good
>
> BUT if you ask Paul Heckel, he would say:
> "Zoomracks was first..."
>
> http://www.atarimagazines.com/startv2n3/hypercard.html
>
> And now that I remember Paul Heckel, read about his winning lawsuit against
> Apple for patent-infringement:
> http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/20/business/apple-is-said-
> to-settle-suit.html
>
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Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

Tom Glod wrote:
> Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals 
> among other things.. that when he invented Hypercard he was 

If you ask Walter Cooke, he answers:

"I too miss HyperCard, but I also used Xerox's Notecards software BEFORE
Bill invented Apple's version for the Macintosh.

Google "Xerox Notecards" to read some history of where the concept and OO
implementation originated. Poor Xerox - they invented so much but couldn't
market their way out of a wet paper bag. A lot of educators were very
impressed with Notecards and wanted at their universities real bad. The
military loved it for buiding real-time visual simulations. I wanted to use
it for building bond trading software. Unfortunately Xerox workstation cost
$30K apiece at that time!

I remember arguing with Andy Hertzfeld at the '87 MacWorld Expo where
HyperCard was announced and demoed on the sexy new Mac II. He was adamant
that HyperCard bore no resemblance to Notecards, but grudgingly agreed that
he HAD seen Notecards at Xerox and knew what it was. Hmmm.."

https://apple.slashdot.org/story/04/03/31/1550216/hypercard-gone-for-good

BUT if you ask Paul Heckel, he would say:
"Zoomracks was first..."

http://www.atarimagazines.com/startv2n3/hypercard.html

And now that I remember Paul Heckel, read about his winning lawsuit against
Apple for patent-infringement:
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/20/business/apple-is-said-to-settle-suit.html

Al
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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode]

I remember Cosmic Osmo. :D

Still today, this game is available from Steam gaming platform:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/63620/Cosmic_Osmo_and_the_Worlds_Beyond_the_Mackerel/

and Archive.org running within the web browser in
an emulated Mac Plus:
https://archive.org/details/CosmicOsmoMacintosh

Al

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Alejandro Tejada 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Before I catch some well deserved hours of sleep,
> I have to leave here, this video and article from
> a few weeks earlier:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOGZNG8jA7Q
>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-psychedelic-
> funhouse-george-rr-martin-2017-9
>
> Why this interactive art project remembers me Cyan's games:
> Myst and The Manhole?
>
> Read your comments tomorrow. :-D
>
> Al
>
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Interview wtth inventor of hypercard Bill Atkinson

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Here is a great interview with Bill. in which he reveals among
other things.. that when he invented Hypercard he was 

http://post.spmailt.com/f/a/HEq2PBZqBCCKldkKRddr2A~~/AAGp3AA~/RgRbyiSwP0EIACzzE6KJEt5XA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb18xYA01Mi4zOS4xODIuMjQ4QgoAADDx6FnrMSJ2Uh11c2UtbGl2ZWNvZGVAbGlzdHMucnVucmV2LmNvbQlRBABEK2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnlvdXR1YmUuY29tL3dhdGNoP3Y9NnRVV295MXRKa0VHAnt9
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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

My favorite was "Cosmic Osmo"

Craig



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Re: [OT] Myst and The Manhole

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

> http://www.businessinsider.com/photos-psychedelic-funhouse-george-rr-martin-2017-9
> 
Wait! I recognize that washing machine... AND THERE ARE MY MISSING SOCKS!!!


Bob S



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Re: Need Dropbox guidance

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what was wrong with the previous try?

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 9:36 AM, pink via use-livecode <
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> I did have a slash in the value of tFilePath
>
> I'm starting to understand my confusion, we're not uploading and
> downloading
> files, but putting and getting data into/from files... which is definitely
> more useful for what I'm trying to do. Now I've got things working and it
> is
> making sense :)
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Re: Need Dropbox guidance

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I did have a slash in the value of tFilePath

I'm starting to understand my confusion, we're not uploading and downloading
files, but putting and getting data into/from files... which is definitely
more useful for what I'm trying to do. Now I've got things working and it is
making sense :)





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Re: Clipboard pastes into single spreadsheet cell

[Paul Foraker via use-livecode]

I just checked this in LC 7.1.1, running in High Sierra.  It works as
expected; the tabs survive into the spreadsheet.

-- Paul

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Paul Foraker  wrote:

> G.W., glad to hear it works OK on a PC. My end user will be using one.
> Thanks,
> -- Paul
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:52 AM, G.W.Gaich via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> I made a test:
>>
>> set the clipboarddata to 1 & tab & 2 & tab & 3
>>
>> pasted into a google spreadsheet cell and three cells were filled as
>> expected.
>>
>> Livecode 8.1.6
>> windows 7
>> firefox 56
>>
>> perhaps it's a mac or browser thing
>>
>>
>> Am 18.10.2017 um 10:27 schrieb Paul Foraker via use-livecode:
>>
>>> On a Mac with LC 8.6.1 (Community)
>>>
>>> Tabs coming from LiveCode are converted to spaces when pasted to a Google
>>> spreadsheet, but are not converted when pasting from BBEdit.
>>>
>>> I'm collecting data into a tab-delimited row (line) and putting it on the
>>> Clipboard, then pasting the row into a Google spreadsheet. For example:
>>>
>>> *put theData["Date"] & theData["First name"] \*
>>> *& theData["Surname"] into theRow*
>>>
>>> *set the ClipboardData["text"] to theRow*
>>>
>>>
>>> When I go to a Google Spreadsheet, click in an empty cell and paste, the
>>> tabs are ignored (converted to spaces) and the entire row gets pasted
>>> into
>>> the single cell as space-delimited.
>>>
>>> I have discovered a workaround. If I first paste from LiveCode to BBEdit
>>> (the tabs are recognized) and then copy and paste from BBEdit to the
>>> spreadsheet, the tabs are OK and the data populates into separate cells.
>>>
>>> I've tried this with Safari, Firefox, and Chrome, so the problem isn't
>>> browser-specific.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want to ask my end-user to paste into another application before
>>> pasting into the spreadsheet.
>>>
>>> Anyone know of a fix for this?
>>>
>>> -- Paul
>>>
>>>
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Re: Clipboard pastes into single spreadsheet cell

[Paul Foraker via use-livecode]

G.W., glad to hear it works OK on a PC. My end user will be using one.
Thanks,
-- Paul

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 7:52 AM, G.W.Gaich via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I made a test:
>
> set the clipboarddata to 1 & tab & 2 & tab & 3
>
> pasted into a google spreadsheet cell and three cells were filled as
> expected.
>
> Livecode 8.1.6
> windows 7
> firefox 56
>
> perhaps it's a mac or browser thing
>
>
> Am 18.10.2017 um 10:27 schrieb Paul Foraker via use-livecode:
>
>> On a Mac with LC 8.6.1 (Community)
>>
>> Tabs coming from LiveCode are converted to spaces when pasted to a Google
>> spreadsheet, but are not converted when pasting from BBEdit.
>>
>> I'm collecting data into a tab-delimited row (line) and putting it on the
>> Clipboard, then pasting the row into a Google spreadsheet. For example:
>>
>> *put theData["Date"] & theData["First name"] \*
>> *& theData["Surname"] into theRow*
>>
>> *set the ClipboardData["text"] to theRow*
>>
>>
>> When I go to a Google Spreadsheet, click in an empty cell and paste, the
>> tabs are ignored (converted to spaces) and the entire row gets pasted into
>> the single cell as space-delimited.
>>
>> I have discovered a workaround. If I first paste from LiveCode to BBEdit
>> (the tabs are recognized) and then copy and paste from BBEdit to the
>> spreadsheet, the tabs are OK and the data populates into separate cells.
>>
>> I've tried this with Safari, Firefox, and Chrome, so the problem isn't
>> browser-specific.
>>
>>
>> I don't want to ask my end-user to paste into another application before
>> pasting into the spreadsheet.
>>
>> Anyone know of a fix for this?
>>
>> -- Paul
>>
>>
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Re: Clipboard pastes into single spreadsheet cell

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

What I discovered when I was fiddling around with this was that when I copy
text from a text editor (ST, atom, BBE, TW), and check the
fullClipboardData in LC, the only key is "text".  The rtf, html, etc. are
all missing (put the keys of the fullClipboardData).  When I put something
into the clipboard in LC, all of the keys are populated, and I haven't
figured out how to remove those keys.  Putting empty into those values does
not seem to fix it.

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> > On 19 Oct 2017, at 1:34 am, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is a function of how Google Spreadsheet and BBEdit treat tabs, not
> the Livecode Clipboard.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 18, 2017, at 01:27 , Paul Foraker via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tabs coming from LiveCode are converted to spaces when pasted to a
> Google
> >> spreadsheet, but are not converted when pasting from BBEdit.
>
> I have a theory for you.
>
> I suspect that because when you copy text in LC then not only the plain
> text representation is put on the clipboard but also a html one, an rtf one
> and so on. Some apps might preferentially read the html one for example and
> in google sheets  might be replaced with space to fit the html chunk to
> a single cell. So moral of the story is to either control what
> representations are placed on the clipboard by setting the appropriate
> array keys or tell users to use the Edit > Paste special > Paste values
> only menu.
>
> Cheers
>
> Monte
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