Re: get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

@Jerry
@Brian

Thanks to both of you. So i was remembering right that there was such a tool
Will try tomorrow. Exporting will do. I can check the length of each file after 
export.

@Richard
Thanks, but i think i am okay with Brian´s tool. Most important for me is just 
the total number of lines of all scripts.
And to be honest, i even do not know what Cyclomatic Complexity is. ;)

Regards,
Matthias




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> Am 12.03.2019 um 22:15 schrieb Brian Milby via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> I have a tool that exports the scripts of a stack but does not supply any 
> stats.
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=77=31079 
> 
> https://github.com/bwmilby/lc-misc/tree/master/ScriptTracker 
> 
> https://github.com/bwmilby/lc-misc/blob/master/ScriptTracker/ScriptTracker.md 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> On Mar 12, 2019, 5:00 PM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
> , wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> i might be wrong, but i think to remember that there was a plugin or tool 
>> available some (maybe long) time ago which was able to give some stats about 
>> the scripts in a stack or was able to export all scripts of a stack.
>> 
>> If so, does anyone remember where to find that tool?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 3/12/19 4:30 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

My old stats collection included a tool for measuring Cyclomatic 
Complexity, re-weighting McCabe's classic algo in ways that provide a 
better assessment that takes xTalk's unique language characteristics 
into account.


At some point I'll roll project metrics into the Projects pane in 
devolution, but truth be told I have a note about that right in the very 
place I'll be adding it, and no one's asked about it.


Well, I'll ask now. There's only a vague reference to metrics in 
devolution, and you really have to know it's there in order to find it 
(starting to sound familiar...?) Anyway, I got into a long discussion at 
SCaLE about the drawbacks of most metrics, but Cyclomatic Complexity 
would give very useful insight into the overall health of a project.


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Re: get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Matthias Rebbe wrote:

> i might be wrong, but i think to remember that there was a plugin or
> tool available some (maybe long) time ago which was able to give some
> stats about the scripts in a stack  or was able to export all scripts
> of a stack.

I used to write things like that, but now that the Project Browser shows 
us the number of script lines and nested behaviors I haven't needed much 
else.


I used to run stats on things back when I was porting large projects 
from other xTalks, but those days are long gone, and I haven't needed 
stats in most day-to-day work.


My old stats collection included a tool for measuring Cyclomatic 
Complexity, re-weighting McCabe's classic algo in ways that provide a 
better assessment that takes xTalk's unique language characteristics 
into account.


At some point I'll roll project metrics into the Projects pane in 
devolution, but truth be told I have a note about that right in the very 
place I'll be adding it, and no one's asked about it.


What metrics are you looking for?  And what sort of overview would be 
most helpful?  Maybe I can get motivated to fold those in


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Re: Drag-and-Drop with Desktop Files

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I think he was trying to get the OS to tell him which files were hilited by the 
user without having to drag and drop. At least that is what I got from the 
post. 

Bob S


> On Mar 12, 2019, at 11:17 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> See the entry for dragDrop in the dictionary. You can get the file paths from 
> there.
> 
> on dragDrop -- check for file paths
>  get the dragData["files"]
>  ...
>  pass dragDrop
> end dragDrop


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Re: get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I have a tool that exports the scripts of a stack but does not supply any stats.
https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=77=31079
https://github.com/bwmilby/lc-misc/tree/master/ScriptTracker
https://github.com/bwmilby/lc-misc/blob/master/ScriptTracker/ScriptTracker.md


Thanks,
Brian
On Mar 12, 2019, 5:00 PM -0400, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i might be wrong, but i think to remember that there was a plugin or tool 
> available some (maybe long) time ago which was able to give some stats about 
> the scripts in a stack or was able to export all scripts of a stack.
>
> If so, does anyone remember where to find that tool?
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthias
>
>
>
>
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Re: get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[JJS via use-livecode]

check here: https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=77=174741#p174704

from brian milby, it's great.

regards,

Jerry

Op 12-3-2019 om 22:00 schreef Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode:

Hi,

i might be wrong, but i think to remember that there was a plugin or tool 
available some (maybe long) time ago which was able to give some stats about 
the scripts in a stack  or was able to export all scripts of a stack.

If so, does anyone remember where to find that tool?

Regards,

Matthias




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get an overview of all scripts (e.g total lines of all scripts) of a stack

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

Hi,

i might be wrong, but i think to remember that there was a plugin or tool 
available some (maybe long) time ago which was able to give some stats about 
the scripts in a stack  or was able to export all scripts of a stack.

If so, does anyone remember where to find that tool?

Regards,

Matthias




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Re: Can't add column behavior

[JJS via use-livecode]

That's a smart idea. Thanks for mentioning it Bob.


Regards,

Jerry

Op 12-3-2019 om 16:56 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:

When I have encountered DG wierdness, that is what I do. In fact I have a 
script that backs up the important settings of a datagrid (column names, 
labels, widths etc.) as a property of the card it's on, then another script 
that creates a new one and restores the settings.

Bob S



On Mar 9, 2019, at 06:21 , JJS via use-livecode  
wrote:

Well, i deleted the DG (saving the internal scripts first).

Then copied the working one and adjusted it. (it's in the same stack so no copy 
issues)

Regards.


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Re: Drag-and-Drop with Desktop Files

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

See the entry for dragDrop in the dictionary. You can get the file paths 
from there.


on dragDrop -- check for file paths
  get the dragData["files"]
  ...
  pass dragDrop
end dragDrop

On 3/12/19 10:46 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

On a Mac you could just make an Applescript call to the Finder. Windows, I 
don't know. There is probably a powershell call that will do it.

Bob S



On Mar 8, 2019, at 06:46 , R.H. via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Desktop and IDE, mainly Windows 10 (could be any OS), LiveCode lastest
version.

Drag-and-Drop on Windows works as expected. But I have another request and
do not know how to handle it so far.

The OS should know which file a user has selected. Is there are a command
or Shell function to know which files are selected in the Operating System
to receive their file path back in LiveCode without much user interaction.
The user shall NOT move the file as in Drag-and-Drop, but just click a
button to know about these selected files and folders and process them as
desired.

Speaking about Windows, only folders and files in a current folder can be
user-selected. So, if we had the information about the currently selected
folder and the selected files and folders inside, it would be a huge
advantage for the application I am working on.

Thanks for any hint if this is conceivable.



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Re: Can't add column behavior

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

When I have encountered DG wierdness, that is what I do. In fact I have a 
script that backs up the important settings of a datagrid (column names, 
labels, widths etc.) as a property of the card it's on, then another script 
that creates a new one and restores the settings. 

Bob S


> On Mar 9, 2019, at 06:21 , JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, i deleted the DG (saving the internal scripts first).
> 
> Then copied the working one and adjusted it. (it's in the same stack so no 
> copy issues)
> 
> Regards.


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Re: Drag-and-Drop with Desktop Files

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

On a Mac you could just make an Applescript call to the Finder. Windows, I 
don't know. There is probably a powershell call that will do it. 

Bob S


> On Mar 8, 2019, at 06:46 , R.H. via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Desktop and IDE, mainly Windows 10 (could be any OS), LiveCode lastest
> version.
> 
> Drag-and-Drop on Windows works as expected. But I have another request and
> do not know how to handle it so far.
> 
> The OS should know which file a user has selected. Is there are a command
> or Shell function to know which files are selected in the Operating System
> to receive their file path back in LiveCode without much user interaction.
> The user shall NOT move the file as in Drag-and-Drop, but just click a
> button to know about these selected files and folders and process them as
> desired.
> 
> Speaking about Windows, only folders and files in a current folder can be
> user-selected. So, if we had the information about the currently selected
> folder and the selected files and folders inside, it would be a huge
> advantage for the application I am working on.
> 
> Thanks for any hint if this is conceivable.


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Re: Statistics-Distributions_v105

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Herman,

I’m not sure what you mean ""Coup de Graph” is seen ,,,”, but my stuff is built 
with a chain saw and chisel compared to your fine work. I didn’t see fit to 
announce it.

Thanks again,

Roger

> On Mar 12, 2019, at 8:15 AM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> a side effect of my announcement is that also your "Coup de Graph"
> is seen which opens a much wider field of applications.
> (You didn't announce it here in the list!sss?)

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Re: Compiling Livecode

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

David Bovill wrote:

>> On 09/03/2019 Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> David Bovill wrote:
>>  > No one using docker?
>>
>> https://hub.docker.com/r/techstrategies/livecode/
>
> I tried that and have it hosted somewhere. By the way who is / are
> "techstrategies".

That's the "ts" in "tsNet", Charles Warwick's Brisbane-based company who 
made the powerful networking external now bundled with proprietary 
editions of LiveCode.



> What I'm looking for is more of how to run integrate Livecode into a
> future looking devops environment - so using docker on the testing
> and development side. That's what we use with other platforms and
> languages - so just wondering... I want to know how Livecode would fit
> into a future with docker and webassembly and so forth rather than
> simply what
> works now.
>
> Anyone else experimenting in this direction?

Not a lot of devops folks on this list.

I sit through sessions at my local Linux User Group with envy for all 
the fun tools my colleagues get to play with, but as interesting as they 
are I'm finding my modest needs well addressed with simple VMs.  And 
with VPSes so cheap these days, I find myself with more Linux containers 
 than I have tasks to deploy on them.  Things are running well enough 
for the simple systems that make up my day job that Docker sits in a bin 
with LXD, Juju, Kubernetes, and other cool things that I'm keen to learn 
but haven't yet made time for.  I envy those with large-scale, complex 
deployments, but I have to admit I'm not one of them.


My use cases isn't interesting in itself, but as part of the dearth of 
devops folks here represents a chickens-and-eggs challenge for LC 
evangelism:


As scripting languages go, LC is as capable as Ruby, Python, and many 
others.  There is no across-the-board "best" among them, each with their 
own trade-offs, and LC's chunk expressions make it a good choice for a 
wide range of even faceless tasks.


When we combine that with the unparalleled integration of GUI elements 
in the language for client-side work, the benefits of LC for server work 
become as apparent as using Linux on the client, having one system that 
lets us move code on either side of the network as needs change, without 
having to rewrite in an entirely different language.


So one might think LC would make an ideal companion to the other 
languages hanging on a devops toolbelt.


But I find many devops folks believe the user experience exists only in 
web browser applications, and have little interest in net-savvy native 
apps, at least on desktop.


Odd, of course, given how this is opposite the mobile trend.  But even 
with mobile, most enterprises seems to favor web deployment for their 
bespoke systems rather than native.


The irony there, which us LC folks recognize instantly, is that many UIs 
can be built much faster in LC, and being dedicated they usually provide 
a much better, more focused user experience than limiting everything to 
the confines of a browser window.


If more enterprise folks were familiar with the benefits of LC, they'd 
be using it for their internal apps.


But of course enterprise folks won't generally adopt a technology until 
they see critical mass usage already in place.


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Re: Statistics-Distributions_v105

[hh via use-livecode]

Roger,

a side effect of my announcement is that also your "Coup de Graph"
is seen which opens a much wider field of applications.
(You didn't announce it here in the list!sss?)

So the same thanks to you.

Hermann

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Re: Statistics-Distributions_v105

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Herman, this is wonderful! I learn so much from you. Thank you!

Roger

> On Mar 12, 2019, at 7:18 AM, hh via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> This tabulates and displays 20 distributions:
> 
> binomial, hypergeometric, negativebinomial, poisson,
> arcsine, beta,cauchy, centralF, chisquare, exponential,
> gamma, invgamma, kumaraswamy, lognormal, normal, pareto,
> studentt, triangular, uniform and weibull.
> 
> Uses jStat ( https://github.com/jstat/jstat ) and
> Chartist ( https://github.com/gionkunz/chartist-js ).
> License MIT ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License ).
> 
> Download Statistics-Distributions from "Sample Stacks" or
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/932
> 
> The stack is tested to run with LC 9.0.2 on MacOS 10.14,
> Win 7+10 and linux(ubuntu1604).
> [Works also with LC 8.1.10 on MacOS and, except for the
> chisquare distribution, on Win/linux ].
> 
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Statistics-Distributions_v105

[hh via use-livecode]

This tabulates and displays 20 distributions:

binomial, hypergeometric, negativebinomial, poisson,
arcsine, beta,cauchy, centralF, chisquare, exponential,
gamma, invgamma, kumaraswamy, lognormal, normal, pareto,
studentt, triangular, uniform and weibull.

Uses jStat ( https://github.com/jstat/jstat ) and
Chartist ( https://github.com/gionkunz/chartist-js ).
License MIT ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License ).

Download Statistics-Distributions from "Sample Stacks" or
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/932

The stack is tested to run with LC 9.0.2 on MacOS 10.14,
Win 7+10 and linux(ubuntu1604).
[Works also with LC 8.1.10 on MacOS and, except for the
chisquare distribution, on Win/linux ].


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Re: acceleratedRendering bugs

[Sphere via use-livecode]

Thanks for your reply Randy.
Nice app you made.

I noticed it is sensitve and that the DG2 group with images and text got 
even slower.
So i have to play some more to get it more smoother as it looked more 
cloggy when scrolling.
i can try the max and see if it will have some effect. I also tried it 
on BlueStacks after i saw the hint from Richmond.
That should be very fast, as we have to wait on 9.1 before we can use 
the fast x86 emulator.

But even in BlueStacks the DG is slow and cloggy.

Randy Hengst via use-livecode schreef op 2019-03-12 11:38:

My work is only with  iOS. So, no comments about Android…

But, I found while working a recent iPad app (with many moving
controls) that I needed to adjust the layerMode to dynamic and back to
static after the move.

I also increased the compositorCacheLimit as you noted… only I went up
to 256*1024*1024.
I made this adjustment in the startUp handler.

I even needed to up the compositorCacheLimit while working in the IDE.
I made that adjustment in the message box.

I didn’t make any changes relative to compositorTileSize or 
compositorType.


The app I was developing when I first started making these adjustments
is free (if that will help understand my context) ….
here is the Apple App Preview page:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/begotten/id1431461736?mt=8


be well,
randy
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com


On Mar 11, 2019, at 4:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:


i was playing a bit with the separate command you can use instead of 
acceleratedrendering (on Android mobile)


compositorTileSize,layerMode,compositorType,compositorCacheLimit

and noticed that setting compositorType to opengl for android causes 
the black out screen


i'm not sure yet about compositorTileSize what it does on speed

the compositorCacheLimit needs to be big like 64*1024*1024 for 64MB 
according calculation in the dictionary, if you set it small it gets 
slow updated


now i'm not sure if i need the separate commands to be set empty in 
the closecard (to prevent upshifting on other cards when using 
keyboard) or that setting the acceleratedrendering to false would be 
enough.


till now i set the accelerated rendering on and off depending if i 
need keyboard on the card



anyone else have experience with these commands?



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Re: acceleratedRendering bugs

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

My work is only with  iOS. So, no comments about Android…

But, I found while working a recent iPad app (with many moving controls) that I 
needed to adjust the layerMode to dynamic and back to static after the move.

I also increased the compositorCacheLimit as you noted… only I went up to 
256*1024*1024.
I made this adjustment in the startUp handler.

I even needed to up the compositorCacheLimit while working in the IDE.
I made that adjustment in the message box.

I didn’t make any changes relative to compositorTileSize or compositorType.

The app I was developing when I first started making these adjustments is free 
(if that will help understand my context) …. 
here is the Apple App Preview page:  
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/begotten/id1431461736?mt=8
   

be well,
randy
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com


> On Mar 11, 2019, at 4:13 PM, JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> i was playing a bit with the separate command you can use instead of 
> acceleratedrendering (on Android mobile)
> 
> compositorTileSize,layerMode,compositorType,compositorCacheLimit
> 
> and noticed that setting compositorType to opengl for android causes the 
> black out screen
> 
> i'm not sure yet about compositorTileSize what it does on speed
> 
> the compositorCacheLimit needs to be big like 64*1024*1024 for 64MB according 
> calculation in the dictionary, if you set it small it gets slow updated
> 
> now i'm not sure if i need the separate commands to be set empty in the 
> closecard (to prevent upshifting on other cards when using keyboard) or that 
> setting the acceleratedrendering to false would be enough.
> 
> till now i set the accelerated rendering on and off depending if i need 
> keyboard on the card
> 
> 
> anyone else have experience with these commands?
> 
> 
> 
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