Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Some have reported noticing the difference (generally I mean, not just in LC) 
all the way back as far as 2007. Retina came to the MacBook in 2012. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 21:42, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> You´ve asked me that already last year on the 28.09.2018 when i posted about 
> this behaviour the first time. ;)
> 
> Did not make a difference.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
> Matthias Rebbe
> 
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>> Am 17.12.2019 um 22:04 schrieb Marty Knapp via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> On Windows could the “formatForPrinting” property be effecting this? Windows 
>> apparently uses different fonts for screen display vs printing.
>> 
>> Marty
>> 
 On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I ran into something similar in Windows, but also something other...
>>> 
>>> I wanted to use a BarcodeFont, in my case 2of5i,  in a Windows application 
>>> i´ve created with LC.
>>> 
>>> When i displayed a barcode in the Windows text editor, the barcode was 
>>> displayed correctly. Even when i increased or decreased the font size, the 
>>> barcode was correctly displayed. The black and blank narrow and wide bars 
>>> showed all the correct size.
>>> 
>>> When i did the same in an LC field, the same barcode was also displayed, 
>>> but the wide and narrow black bars and the spaces were not correct in size. 
>>> The proportion of some of the black bars and the blank spaces were not 
>>> correct. When i changed the font size, then other bars and spaces showed 
>>> this behaviour.
>>> 
>>> I did not file a bug report, as i was not sure, if this really was a bug. 
>>> Is LC using native text fields in Windows?
>>> 
>>> To get finished i went another way and used a barcode sdk which creates 
>>> images of the barcode. But that´s an other story. ;)
>>> 
>>> Matthias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Matthias Rebbe
>>> 
>>> free tools for Livecoders:
>>> InstaMaker >> >
>>> WinSignMaker Mac >> >
>>> 
 Am 17.12.2019 um 20:23 schrieb Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
 >>:
 
 Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.
 
 1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.
 
 2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.
 
 The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor 
 eyesight to be more black (if that is possible).
 My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I 
 have the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
 I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same 
 table is much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).
 
 Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
 implemented in LC.
 
 If so it would be good to get that option?
 
 There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command
 
 defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO
 
 and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be 
 implemented in app.
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Terry
 
 
 
> On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>  >> wrote:
> 
> 9.5.1 RC1
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>> > >> wrote:
>> 
>> What version of LiveCode are you using.
>> 
>> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
> 
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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

This to do with the sharpness setting for the fonts. If you have Photoshop you 
have the ability to set the levels of this in the character parameters. The 
same principle is available to Mac developers in font smoothing. This adds 
levels of clarity to the fill of the typeface. Here’s Apples guide:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coregraphics/cgcontext/1454767-setallowsfontsmoothing

There’s listed there other parameters that play a part like quantisation and 
smoothing. 

So LC and FM just use differing methods. But they’re not far off each other. 

I’m currently upgrading a stack from 5.0.2 up to 9.5 and the text difference is 
far more distinct. I’m assuming this is to do with Unicode. So be thankful your 
issue is not nearly as tiresome requiring the reformatting of every card in a 
humungous stack like the one I’m dealing with!

All the best. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 19:23, Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.
> 
> 1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.
> 
> 2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.
> 
> The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor eyesight 
> to be more black (if that is possible).
> My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I 
> have the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
> I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same table 
> is much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).
> 
> Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
> implemented in LC.
> 
> If so it would be good to get that option?
> 
> There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command
> 
> defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO
> 
> and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be 
> implemented in app.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 9.5.1 RC1
>> 
 On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of LiveCode are you using.
>>> 
>>> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.1

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Heh, spoke too soon. I saw a pull request for 9.5.2 build so I I guess 9.5.1 
won’t be the last release in the 9.5.x series. Unless it goes as the first 
‘unplanned’ of the series. ;)

Sean Cole
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> ** Note 9.5.1 STABLE is the last planned release in the 9.5.x series **
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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Hey Klaus

The first thing that grabs my attention is that the two missing keys, 
statusstatus and abruffehler, are very similar to two other keys, status and 
abruffehlermeldung. I wonder if this similarity is where printKeys is pulling 
incomplete results. It would certainly be my initial route of examination. 
although why it chose the smaller and earlier of one and the larger and later 
of the other is a bit inconsistent. Hmmm, very interesting.  

All the best

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 20:13, Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
> 1. lfd_nummer
> 2.Titel
> 3.sid
> 4.währung
> 5.Kupon
> 6.barriere
> 7. Verfallsdatum
> 8.Basiswerte
> 9. status
> 10. statusstatus
> 11. abruffehler
> 12. abruffehlermeldung
> 
> But when I fire this in the messagebox: 
> send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys? 
> 1
> Verfallsdatum: ``
> abruffehlermeldung: ``
> lfd_nummer: `0018`
> status: ``
> sid: `44`
> Titel: `sdsdsdds`
> Basiswerte: `Aktien`
> Kupon: `50.00%`
> barriere: `80.00%`
> währung: `CHF`
> 
> Same with: 
> put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
> Verfallsdatum
> abruffehlermeldung
> lfd_nummer
> status
> sid
> Titel
> Basiswerte
> Kupon
> barriere
> währung
> 
> Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
> Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

The easiest way to view arrays in LC these days is with the tree widget.

1. Drop a tree widget on your card
2. Set the widget's arrayStyle to true
3. Set the widget's arrayData to your array.

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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

If I recall a long time ago speaking with Trevor, printkeys() does not 
necessarily return ALL keys. Your array does not look that large though. 

I have an array function that may prove more helpful. I designed it so that you 
could "search" or filter an array for a key and/or a value. It will return text 
looking something like:

[1] ["lastupdate"]  2016-09-07 13:56:01,[1] ["contactcell"] ,[1] 
["siteidlist"] ,[1] ["contactid"]  409,[1] ["contactname"] 
Stonehill Technical Solutions,[1] ["contactphone"]  949-218-1258,[1] 
["updateby"]   Robert Sneidar,[1] ["itidlist"] |396|,[1] ["custid"]
340,[1] ["contactemail"],[1] ["contacttype"]|customer|site|it|,[1] 
["position"] 
[2] ["lastupdate"]  2016-09-07 13:56:01,[2] ["contactcell"] ,[2] 
["siteidlist"] |397|,[2] ["contactid"] 410,[2] ["contactname"]  
   Jackie Silventez,[2] ["contactphone"]   951-943-2223,[2] ["updateby"]   
Robert Sneidar,[2] ["itidlist"] ,[2] ["custid"] 340,[2] 
["contactemail"],[2] ["contacttype"]|site|,[2] ["position"] 

etc.

It has the format [first root key] [first child key] [next child key] [next 
child key] (etc.)"key value",[first root key] [second child key]...

and so on. The value to this format is you can use the filter lines command to, 
for example find every line containing *["custid"]340*. Each line 
will then contain the actual array keys for that entry, which you can use to 
reference the original array. In this case the root key is 1, the first child 
key is "custid" the value is 340. 

It seems complicated at first but it's not. Try it with a 3 deep multi key 
array. It gives you the ability using the filter lines command to find every 
matching array key with a single statement. 

Bob S


function altPrintKeys @pArray
   put numtochar(11) into vertTab
   put numtochar(30) into altCr
   put the keys of pArray into theKeys
   sort theKeys numeric
   
   repeat FOR each line theKey in theKeys
  put "[" & theKey & "] " after theKeyList
  if theKey is not a number then
 replace "[" & theKey & "]" WITH "[" & quote & theKey & quote & "]" in 
theKeyList
  end if
  if pArray[theKey] is an array then
 put pArray[theKey] into theTempArray
 put altPrintKeys(theTempArray, theKeyList, pFullData) after theText
 put empty into the last word of theKeyList
 delete the last char of theKeyList
 put cr into the last char of theText
  else
 put "pArray " & the last word of theKeyList into theKeyName
 -- put "put " & theKeyName & " into theValue" into theCommand
 -- do theCommand
 put value(theKeyName) into theValue
 replace tab WITH vertTab in theValue
 replace return WITH altCr in theValue
 put theKeyList & tab & theValue & comma after theText
 put empty into the last word of theKeyList
 delete the last char of theKeyList
  end if
   end repeat
   
   return theText
end altPrintKeys

Bob S


> On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:13 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
> 1. lfd_nummer
> 2.Titel
> 3.sid
> 4.währung
> 5.Kupon
> 6.barriere
> 7. Verfallsdatum
> 8.Basiswerte
> 9. status
> 10. statusstatus
> 11. abruffehler
> 12. abruffehlermeldung
> 
> But when I fire this in the messagebox: 
> send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys? 
> 1
> Verfallsdatum: ``
> abruffehlermeldung: ``
> lfd_nummer: `0018`
> status: ``
> sid: `44`
> Titel: `sdsdsdds`
> Basiswerte: `Aktien`
> Kupon: `50.00%`
> barriere: `80.00%`
> währung: `CHF`
> 
> Same with: 
> put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
> Verfallsdatum
> abruffehlermeldung
> lfd_nummer
> status
> sid
> Titel
> Basiswerte
> Kupon
> barriere
> währung
> 
> Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
> Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.
> 
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> --
> Klaus Major
> https://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

You´ve asked me that already last year on the 28.09.2018 when i posted about 
this behaviour the first time. ;)

Did not make a difference.

Regards,

Matthias

Matthias Rebbe

free tools for Livecoders:
InstaMaker 
WinSignMaker Mac 

> Am 17.12.2019 um 22:04 schrieb Marty Knapp via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> On Windows could the “formatForPrinting” property be effecting this? Windows 
> apparently uses different fonts for screen display vs printing.
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I ran into something similar in Windows, but also something other...
>> 
>> I wanted to use a BarcodeFont, in my case 2of5i,  in a Windows application 
>> i´ve created with LC.
>> 
>> When i displayed a barcode in the Windows text editor, the barcode was 
>> displayed correctly. Even when i increased or decreased the font size, the 
>> barcode was correctly displayed. The black and blank narrow and wide bars 
>> showed all the correct size.
>> 
>> When i did the same in an LC field, the same barcode was also displayed, but 
>> the wide and narrow black bars and the spaces were not correct in size. The 
>> proportion of some of the black bars and the blank spaces were not correct. 
>> When i changed the font size, then other bars and spaces showed this 
>> behaviour.
>> 
>> I did not file a bug report, as i was not sure, if this really was a bug. Is 
>> LC using native text fields in Windows?
>> 
>> To get finished i went another way and used a barcode sdk which creates 
>> images of the barcode. But that´s an other story. ;)
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Matthias Rebbe
>> 
>> free tools for Livecoders:
>> InstaMaker > >
>> WinSignMaker Mac > >
>> 
>>> Am 17.12.2019 um 20:23 schrieb Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>>> >> >>:
>>> 
>>> Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.
>>> 
>>> 1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.
>>> 
>>> 2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.
>>> 
>>> The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor 
>>> eyesight to be more black (if that is possible).
>>> My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I 
>>> have the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
>>> I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same table 
>>> is much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).
>>> 
>>> Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
>>> implemented in LC.
>>> 
>>> If so it would be good to get that option?
>>> 
>>> There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command
>>> 
>>> defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO
>>> 
>>> and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be 
>>> implemented in app.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Terry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
 >> wrote:
 
 9.5.1 RC1
 
> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> 
>  >> wrote:
> 
> What version of LiveCode are you using.
> 
> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
 
 
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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Marty Knapp via use-livecode]

On Windows could the “formatForPrinting” property be effecting this? Windows 
apparently uses different fonts for screen display vs printing.

Marty

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I ran into something similar in Windows, but also something other...
> 
> I wanted to use a BarcodeFont, in my case 2of5i,  in a Windows application 
> i´ve created with LC.
> 
> When i displayed a barcode in the Windows text editor, the barcode was 
> displayed correctly. Even when i increased or decreased the font size, the 
> barcode was correctly displayed. The black and blank narrow and wide bars 
> showed all the correct size.
> 
> When i did the same in an LC field, the same barcode was also displayed, but 
> the wide and narrow black bars and the spaces were not correct in size. The 
> proportion of some of the black bars and the blank spaces were not correct. 
> When i changed the font size, then other bars and spaces showed this 
> behaviour.
> 
> I did not file a bug report, as i was not sure, if this really was a bug. Is 
> LC using native text fields in Windows?
> 
> To get finished i went another way and used a barcode sdk which creates 
> images of the barcode. But that´s an other story. ;)
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Matthias Rebbe
> 
> free tools for Livecoders:
> InstaMaker 
> WinSignMaker Mac 
> 
>> Am 17.12.2019 um 20:23 schrieb Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
>> 
>> Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.
>> 
>> 1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.
>> 
>> 2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.
>> 
>> The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor 
>> eyesight to be more black (if that is possible).
>> My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I 
>> have the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
>> I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same table 
>> is much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).
>> 
>> Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
>> implemented in LC.
>> 
>> If so it would be good to get that option?
>> 
>> There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command
>> 
>> defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO
>> 
>> and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be 
>> implemented in app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 9.5.1 RC1
>>> 
 On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
 mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 What version of LiveCode are you using.
 
 Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[JJS via use-livecode]

indeed, maybe this helps too for a selected line

Data of a selected line:

*if the dgHilitedLine of group "DataGrid 1" is not empty

then

put the dgHilitedLine of group "DataGrid 1" into theLine

*

*put the dgDataOfLine[theLine] of group "DataGrid 1" into tEdit**
*

*put tEdit["Nummer"] into field"Nummer" --etcetera*

*end if*

*Regards,*

*JErry
*

Op 17-12-2019 om 21:46 schreef Klaus major-k via use-livecode:

Hi Jerry,


Am 17.12.2019 um 20:42 schrieb JJS via use-livecode 
:

Ein schöne guten abend Klaus,
i don't know exactly what your trying to accomplish,

I need to do lots of: repeat for each key tKey in...
And now I am a bit irritated that some key may be missing in my loop!?


but maybe this helps, or give a further idea. I use this to export column names 
and data:
put the dgProp[ "columns" ] of group "DataGrid 1" into tColumnTitles

Yes, this does in fact show all of my 12 keys


  replace return with comma in tColumnTitles
  put the dgText of group "DataGrid 1" into tData
  replace tab with comma in tData
  put tColumnTitles & return & tData into URL ("file:" & tFileName & ".csv")
i get it all

I need to mess around with: the dgdata...


Ciao!

Jerry

Best

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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode]

I ran into something similar in Windows, but also something other...

I wanted to use a BarcodeFont, in my case 2of5i,  in a Windows application i´ve 
created with LC.

When i displayed a barcode in the Windows text editor, the barcode was 
displayed correctly. Even when i increased or decreased the font size, the 
barcode was correctly displayed. The black and blank narrow and wide bars 
showed all the correct size.

When i did the same in an LC field, the same barcode was also displayed, but 
the wide and narrow black bars and the spaces were not correct in size. The 
proportion of some of the black bars and the blank spaces were not correct. 
When i changed the font size, then other bars and spaces showed this behaviour.

I did not file a bug report, as i was not sure, if this really was a bug. Is LC 
using native text fields in Windows?

To get finished i went another way and used a barcode sdk which creates images 
of the barcode. But that´s an other story. ;)

Matthias





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> Am 17.12.2019 um 20:23 schrieb Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.
> 
> 1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.
> 
> 2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.
> 
> The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor eyesight 
> to be more black (if that is possible).
> My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I 
> have the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
> I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same table 
> is much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).
> 
> Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
> implemented in LC.
> 
> If so it would be good to get that option?
> 
> There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command
> 
> defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO
> 
> and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be 
> implemented in app.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 9.5.1 RC1
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of LiveCode are you using.
>>> 
>>> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
>> 
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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Jerry,

> Am 17.12.2019 um 20:42 schrieb JJS via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Ein schöne guten abend Klaus,
> i don't know exactly what your trying to accomplish,

I need to do lots of: repeat for each key tKey in...
And now I am a bit irritated that some key may be missing in my loop!?

> but maybe this helps, or give a further idea. I use this to export column 
> names and data:
> put the dgProp[ "columns" ] of group "DataGrid 1" into tColumnTitles

Yes, this does in fact show all of my 12 keys

>  replace return with comma in tColumnTitles
>  put the dgText of group "DataGrid 1" into tData
>  replace tab with comma in tData
>  put tColumnTitles & return & tData into URL ("file:" & tFileName & 
> ".csv")
> i get it all

I need to mess around with: the dgdata...

> Ciao!
> 
> Jerry

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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

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Ein schöne guten abend Klaus,


i don't know exactly what your trying to accomplish, but maybe this 
helps, or give a further idea. I use this to export column names and data:


put the dgProp[ "columns" ] of group "DataGrid 1" into tColumnTitles
 replace return with comma in tColumnTitles

 put the dgText of group "DataGrid 1" into tData
 replace tab with comma in tData

 put tColumnTitles & return & tData into URL ("file:" & tFileName & 
".csv")


i get it all


Ciao!

Jerry

Op 17-12-2019 om 21:36 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode:
I am not 100% sure about the datagrid, but in regular arrays, if your 
d not set a key, it will not be present.


So, if you never put a value into tt[1][statusstatus] then the key 
[statusstatus] will not be in the list of keys for tt[1]. If you want 
all keys to be present for each row, then you need to set them to some 
value, even if an empty string by 'empty' or ""



On 12/17/2019 3:13 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi friends,

I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
1. lfd_nummer
2.Titel
3.sid
4.währung
5.Kupon
6.barriere
7. Verfallsdatum
8.Basiswerte
9. status
10. statusstatus
11. abruffehler
12. abruffehlermeldung

But when I fire this in the messagebox:
send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys?
1
Verfallsdatum: ``
abruffehlermeldung: ``
lfd_nummer: `0018`
status: ``
sid: `44`
Titel: `sdsdsdds`
Basiswerte: `Aktien`
Kupon: `50.00%`
barriere: `80.00%`
währung: `CHF`

Same with:
put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
Verfallsdatum
abruffehlermeldung
lfd_nummer
status
sid
Titel
Basiswerte
Kupon
barriere
währung

Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.


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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Paul,

> Am 17.12.2019 um 21:36 schrieb Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I am not 100% sure about the datagrid, but in regular arrays, if your d not 
> set a key, it will not be present.
> 
> So, if you never put a value into tt[1][statusstatus] then the key 
> [statusstatus] will not be in the list of keys for tt[1]. If you want all 
> keys to be present for each row, then you need to set them to some value, 
> even if an empty string by 'empty' or ""

but "printkeys" DOES in fact list empty keys, see below, three empty keys:
Verfallsdatum: ``
abruffehlermeldung: ``
 status: ``

And "put the keys ..." does also not omit empty keys.

> On 12/17/2019 3:13 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:
>> Hi friends,
>> 
>> I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
>> 1. lfd_nummer
>> 2.Titel
>> 3.sid
>> 4.währung
>> 5.Kupon
>> 6.barriere
>> 7. Verfallsdatum
>> 8.Basiswerte
>> 9. status
>> 10. statusstatus
>> 11. abruffehler
>> 12. abruffehlermeldung
>> 
>> But when I fire this in the messagebox:
>> send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys?
>> 1
>> Verfallsdatum: ``
>> abruffehlermeldung: ``
>> lfd_nummer: `0018`
>> status: ``
>> sid: `44`
>> Titel: `sdsdsdds`
>> Basiswerte: `Aktien`
>> Kupon: `50.00%`
>> barriere: `80.00%`
>> währung: `CHF`
>> 
>> Same with:
>> put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
>> Verfallsdatum
>> abruffehlermeldung
>> lfd_nummer
>> status
>> sid
>> Titel
>> Basiswerte
>> Kupon
>> barriere
>> währung
>> 
>> Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
>> Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.

Best

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Re: Missing keys in datagrid?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I am not 100% sure about the datagrid, but in regular arrays, if your d 
not set a key, it will not be present.


So, if you never put a value into tt[1][statusstatus] then the key 
[statusstatus] will not be in the list of keys for tt[1]. If you want 
all keys to be present for each row, then you need to set them to some 
value, even if an empty string by 'empty' or ""



On 12/17/2019 3:13 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote:

Hi friends,

I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
1. lfd_nummer
2.Titel
3.sid
4.währung
5.Kupon
6.barriere
7. Verfallsdatum
8.Basiswerte
9. status
10. statusstatus
11. abruffehler
12. abruffehlermeldung

But when I fire this in the messagebox:
send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys?
1
Verfallsdatum: ``
abruffehlermeldung: ``
lfd_nummer: `0018`
status: ``
sid: `44`
Titel: `sdsdsdds`
Basiswerte: `Aktien`
Kupon: `50.00%`
barriere: `80.00%`
währung: `CHF`

Same with:
put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
Verfallsdatum
abruffehlermeldung
lfd_nummer
status
sid
Titel
Basiswerte
Kupon
barriere
währung

Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.


Best

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Missing keys in datagrid?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi friends,

I have a datagrid "produkte" of type Table with these 12 columns:
1. lfd_nummer
2.Titel
3.sid
4.währung
5.Kupon
6.barriere
7. Verfallsdatum
8.Basiswerte
9. status
10. statusstatus
11. abruffehler
12. abruffehlermeldung

But when I fire this in the messagebox: 
send "printkeys" to grp "produkte", I only get 10 keys? 
1
Verfallsdatum: ``
abruffehlermeldung: ``
lfd_nummer: `0018`
status: ``
sid: `44`
Titel: `sdsdsdds`
Basiswerte: `Aktien`
Kupon: `50.00%`
barriere: `80.00%`
währung: `CHF`

Same with: 
put the dgdata of grp "produkte" into tt;put keys of tt[1]
Verfallsdatum
abruffehlermeldung
lfd_nummer
status
sid
Titel
Basiswerte
Kupon
barriere
währung

Again only 10 keys from total 12!? What am I missing?
Tested on macOS 10.14.6 with LC 9.05, 9.04 and 9.5.1 GM.


Best

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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Terence Heaford via use-livecode]

Firstly I have an iMac, none retina.

1. Just checked Pages & Numbers and they both appear similar to LC.

2. Then checked TextEdit and that appears the same as Filemaker.

The rendering of the text in Filemaker & TextEdit appears to my poor eyesight 
to be more black (if that is possible).
My poor eyesight is the reason I notice this in the first place, because I have 
the same database in both LC & Filemaker.
I prefer the scripting of LC to Filemaker but the display of the same table is 
much clearer in Filemaker for the same font (more blackness).

Perhaps there is an anti alias setting or such like, that has not been 
implemented in LC.

If so it would be good to get that option?

There used to be (not sure if it’s there now) a terminal command

defaults write -g CGFontRenderingFontSmoothingDisabled -bool NO

and probably others for this sort of thing. Perhaps they have to be implemented 
in app.



Thanks

Terry



> On 17 Dec 2019, at 17:54, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 9.5.1 RC1
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What version of LiveCode are you using.
>> 
>> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.
> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.1

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I do not see the player changes with Apple going forward with AVKit.

Any they only in 9.6.dp1?

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.1 STABLE.

** Note 9.5.1 STABLE is the last planned release in the 9.5.x series **
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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

9.5.1 RC1

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:14 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> What version of LiveCode are you using.
> 
> Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.


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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

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What version of LiveCode are you using.

Older releases did not support the Retina display, but newer releases do.





On 12/17/2019 12:05 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I have a retina display laptop and I screen shot a table and a text field. The 
pixels from both seem abnormally large, certainly not Retina pixels. I did the 
same thing with a textEdit file and got the same result! Took a screen shot of 
the background image for the monitor pizels are MUCH smaller. Filemaker may be 
taking advantage of a higher text rendering that Livecode and TextEdit are not. 
In fact not even Pages is rendering at Retina resolution.

Bob S



On Dec 17, 2019, at 08:44 , Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
 wrote:

They are both Lucida Grande 13. One is Filemaker the other Livecode.

All Apple’s apps and those that clearly using Native Text display the same it 
is only Livecode that displays differently.

Does Livecode use Apple’s text rendering or another?

Thanks

Terry

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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I have a retina display laptop and I screen shot a table and a text field. The 
pixels from both seem abnormally large, certainly not Retina pixels. I did the 
same thing with a textEdit file and got the same result! Took a screen shot of 
the background image for the monitor pizels are MUCH smaller. Filemaker may be 
taking advantage of a higher text rendering that Livecode and TextEdit are not. 
In fact not even Pages is rendering at Retina resolution. 

Bob S


> On Dec 17, 2019, at 08:44 , Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> They are both Lucida Grande 13. One is Filemaker the other Livecode.
> 
> All Apple’s apps and those that clearly using Native Text display the same it 
> is only Livecode that displays differently.
> 
> Does Livecode use Apple’s text rendering or another?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Terry

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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Terence Heaford via use-livecode]

They are both Lucida Grande 13. One is Filemaker the other Livecode.

All Apple’s apps and those that clearly using Native Text display the same it 
is only Livecode that displays differently.

Does Livecode use Apple’s text rendering or another?

Thanks

Terry

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 15:49, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's clear the pixels in one are much larger and that's the one where the 
> actual letters are smaller! Are these the same font size? 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 06:55 , Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Here are the links. If you look closely the anti aliasing of the text seems 
>> inferior on LC.
> 
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Re: Something wrong with LiveCode 9.5.1

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I believe at the time we tested the un-notarized DMG on 10.14.3 of 
Mojave. Although I just tested an un-notarized and notarized and stapled 
DMG under 10.14.6 and both opened.



On 12/17/2019 9:41 AM, Eller, Roger via use-livecode wrote:

[10.14.5]  Mojave

LiveCodeIndy-9_5_1_Mac

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Okay, I blame a LONG day and bad memory.

   I went and found our testing notes:

macOS namesigned notarized stapled
10.9  MavricksOK FAIL  FAIL
10.10 YosemiteOK FAIL  FAIL
10.11 El Capitan  OK FAIL  FAIL
10.12 Sierra  OK OKOK
10.13 High Sierra OK OKOK
10.14 Mojave  OK OKOK
10.15 Catalina*  OKOK


The divider is Sierra and above: Notarized DMGs are good. El Capatan and
below, Notarized DMGs are bad.

My bad memory. Sorry to cause unnecessary concern.


On 12/16/2019 4:29 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

On 12/16/2019 3:58 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:

This is the first time I have heard that anything notarized will not
open in Sierra. I have been watching the whole notarization topic,
but apparently not closely enough. Could you point me to some info
from Apple about what is -not- supported in Sierra?

I support an entire flock of Sierra computers. We are preparing to
roll out Mojave soon. I guess that better be done ASAP.


I can't point you to any Apple materials as we discovered this once we
notarized out DMG for Catalina and was performing final installation
testing on Catalina and other versions of macOS

You can download the macOS DMG for our app at
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchware.com%2Fdownloads.htmldata=02%7C01%7Croger.e.eller%40sealedair.com%7Cbce8e591fd9248f6873808d7827cb200%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C637121344396694305sdata=P88a7VbY1uRIMOH0P7ysIDbb5MWRIJxRAu3Sac%2FdDa0%3Dreserved=0

Scroll down the page to the download links. You will see ONE DMG for
Catalina and another DNG for other version of OSX. Download the
Catalina DMG and you will find the notarized DMG opens on Catalina,
Mojave, and High Sierra, but throws and error on Sierra and below.

We choose to Notarize the DMG rather than the installer app. I realize
while Apple allows this (currently) is is not what their documentation
on Notarization speaks to which is Notarizing the APP and performing
drag-installs from the DMG rather than using an Installer app.

Our application HyperRESEARCH, our Installer are both code signed. The
Catalina DMG is code signed, notarized, and stapled. The non-Catalina
DMG is not code signed (and not notarized).

We used this excellent guidance to figure out how to do notarization:
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flessons.livecode.com%2Fm%2F4071%2Fl%2F1122100-codesigning-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstoredata=02%7C01%7Croger.e.eller%40sealedair.com%7Cbce8e591fd9248f6873808d7827cb200%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C637121344396694305sdata=bfx%2B7UZqlM%2Fw4Mt82EgaKy3HlxZjz5o5yT8Jf7EH0Kg%3Dreserved=0

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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

It's clear the pixels in one are much larger and that's the one where the 
actual letters are smaller! Are these the same font size? 

Bob S


> On Dec 17, 2019, at 06:55 , Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
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> Here are the links. If you look closely the anti aliasing of the text seems 
> inferior on LC.


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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Terence Heaford via use-livecode]

Here are the links. If you look closely the anti aliasing of the text seems 
inferior on LC.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xic5db59hh4hs4v/Livecode.png?dl=0 


https://www.dropbox.com/s/nv6gws84l78n053/Other%20app%20tables.png?dl=0 


Thanks

Terry

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 12:12, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Terence
> 
> This list doesn’t display images in the mail. Perhaps you could provide links 
> to the images. 
> 
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital Prod Ltd
> 
>> On 17 Dec 2019, at 08:31, Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain why the text in a livecode table displays more poorly 
>> on screen than other native macos apps?
>> 
>> Here are two screen grabs that display the difference.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Terry
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Something wrong with LiveCode 9.5.1

[Eller, Roger via use-livecode]

[10.14.5]  Mojave

LiveCodeIndy-9_5_1_Mac

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Okay, I blame a LONG day and bad memory.

  I went and found our testing notes:

macOS namesigned notarized stapled
10.9  MavricksOK FAIL  FAIL
10.10 YosemiteOK FAIL  FAIL
10.11 El Capitan  OK FAIL  FAIL
10.12 Sierra  OK OKOK
10.13 High Sierra OK OKOK
10.14 Mojave  OK OKOK
10.15 Catalina*  OKOK


The divider is Sierra and above: Notarized DMGs are good. El Capatan and
below, Notarized DMGs are bad.

My bad memory. Sorry to cause unnecessary concern.


On 12/16/2019 4:29 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
> On 12/16/2019 3:58 PM, Jerry Jensen wrote:
>> This is the first time I have heard that anything notarized will not
>> open in Sierra. I have been watching the whole notarization topic,
>> but apparently not closely enough. Could you point me to some info
>> from Apple about what is -not- supported in Sierra?
>>
>> I support an entire flock of Sierra computers. We are preparing to
>> roll out Mojave soon. I guess that better be done ASAP.
>>
>
> I can't point you to any Apple materials as we discovered this once we
> notarized out DMG for Catalina and was performing final installation
> testing on Catalina and other versions of macOS
>
> You can download the macOS DMG for our app at
> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchware.com%2Fdownloads.htmldata=02%7C01%7Croger.e.eller%40sealedair.com%7Cbce8e591fd9248f6873808d7827cb200%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C637121344396694305sdata=P88a7VbY1uRIMOH0P7ysIDbb5MWRIJxRAu3Sac%2FdDa0%3Dreserved=0
>
> Scroll down the page to the download links. You will see ONE DMG for
> Catalina and another DNG for other version of OSX. Download the
> Catalina DMG and you will find the notarized DMG opens on Catalina,
> Mojave, and High Sierra, but throws and error on Sierra and below.
>
> We choose to Notarize the DMG rather than the installer app. I realize
> while Apple allows this (currently) is is not what their documentation
> on Notarization speaks to which is Notarizing the APP and performing
> drag-installs from the DMG rather than using an Installer app.
>
> Our application HyperRESEARCH, our Installer are both code signed. The
> Catalina DMG is code signed, notarized, and stapled. The non-Catalina
> DMG is not code signed (and not notarized).
>
> We used this excellent guidance to figure out how to do notarization:
> https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flessons.livecode.com%2Fm%2F4071%2Fl%2F1122100-codesigning-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstoredata=02%7C01%7Croger.e.eller%40sealedair.com%7Cbce8e591fd9248f6873808d7827cb200%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C637121344396694305sdata=bfx%2B7UZqlM%2Fw4Mt82EgaKy3HlxZjz5o5yT8Jf7EH0Kg%3Dreserved=0
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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[dunbarx--- via use-livecode]

Or perhaps post to the forum.
Craig


-Original Message-
From: Pi Digital via use-livecode 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Pi Digital 
Sent: Tue, Dec 17, 2019 7:13 am
Subject: Re: Table Text Livecode vs .

Hi Terence

This list doesn’t display images in the mail. Perhaps you could provide links 
to the images. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 08:31, Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can someone explain why the text in a livecode table displays more poorly on 
> screen than other native macos apps?
> 
> Here are two screen grabs that display the difference.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Standalones and the defaultFolder

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

On 12/17/2019 2:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

On 2019-12-15 13:29, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:

Just a reminder that the files(,"detailed") (i.e. the detailed
files) and the detailed folders are NOT Unicode aware. If you have any
Unicode characters in path or the file names, they will be returned as
URLEncoded question marks making matching a specific name in the
returned data difficult.

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22213


This will be resolved from 9.6-dp-2: 



Warmest Regards,

Mark.



Thank you!


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Re: Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Pi Digital via use-livecode]

Hi Terence

This list doesn’t display images in the mail. Perhaps you could provide links 
to the images. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 08:31, Terence Heaford via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can someone explain why the text in a livecode table displays more poorly on 
> screen than other native macos apps?
> 
> Here are two screen grabs that display the difference.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Terry
> 
> 
> 
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Serverless Google API access

[Pyyhtiä Christer via use-livecode]

In LiveCode (Android) is there a suitable way to access Google API's without a 
server - i.e. have direct request / wait / response receive method?

The aim is to provide a way to use Google licensing payment services directly 
from the device.


Christer Pyyhtiä
MindCrea Ltd


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Table Text Livecode vs .....

[Terence Heaford via use-livecode]

Can someone explain why the text in a livecode table displays more poorly on 
screen than other native macos apps?

Here are two screen grabs that display the difference.

Thanks

Terry




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