Re: Layers in PBrowser
Tom, I'm among the several here who have been unable to reproduce the original issue discussed here, at least as I understood it. Perhaps I misunderstand it. What is the recipe for the bug you're referring to? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Tom Glod wote: Yikes.. I have a lot of time for LC but there is really no excuse that is acceptable for this kinda bug to be around for so long there were others that drove me nuts for years too...but have since been solved thank God. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:53 AM David V Glasgow via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 13 Aug 2020, at 4:16 am, Pi Digital via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Why do I have the same discussion with you people Hi Sean, There are no ‘you people’, there is only us, including you. I can’t help you with your IDE problem, but I can see that others are trying hard to be helpful, and that you are running on empty. Maybe get some sleep and revisit the issue when you are feeling refreshed? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers in PBrowser
Yikes.. I have a lot of time for LC but there is really no excuse that is acceptable for this kinda bug to be around for so long there were others that drove me nuts for years too...but have since been solved thank God. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 7:53 AM David V Glasgow via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > On 13 Aug 2020, at 4:16 am, Pi Digital via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Why do I have the same discussion with you people > > Hi Sean, There are no ‘you people’, there is only us, including you. > > I can’t help you with your IDE problem, but I can see that others are > trying hard to be helpful, and that you are running on empty. > > Maybe get some sleep and revisit the issue when you are feeling refreshed? > > Cheers, > > David G > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Tom Glod Founder & Developer MakeShyft R.D.A (www.makeshyft.com) Mobile:647.562.9411 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: More Standalone Building Weirdness...
The Standalone Builder really needs to be a separate process. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: More Standalone Building Weirdness...
Put this in every stack you build, and i mean the "build close issue" part in the on closeStack Handler It was in one of the release notes. Maybe that is holding your build to complete on shutdownRequest answer question "Are you sure you want to stop?" with "Y" or "N" if it is "Y" then pass shutdownRequest end if end shutdownRequest on closeStack -build close issue-- if the environment is "development" and \ there is a stack "revStandaloneProgress" and \ the mode of stack "revStandaloneProgress" > 0 then exit closeStack end if --- lock messages quit --triggers shutdownrequestmessage, if not handled then it hangs pass closeStack end closeStack Op wo 12 aug. 2020 om 20:32 schreef Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > I have a stack that when I build into a Windows Standalone (only > Windows) in LC 9.6.0 under Windows, the dialog that says "Attaching > Engine..." never finishes. > > The Standalone gets built and runs properly, but the "Attaching > engine..." dialog in the building process never finishes (waiting over > an hour for a tiny stack) and I have to bring up teh Task Manager and > force the LiveCode app to exit. > > Anyone seen anything like this? Have any idea what causes it? > > Since the app does get built and runs fine, and I am under a deadline, I > don't really have time to troubleshoot it. It is easier to just force LC > to exit, but if someone has seen this and knows the cause, please let me > know. > > Thanks in advance. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
On 2020-08-13 18:30, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: That tester has both iPhone and iPad and I know there both running the same version of iOS. iPhone doesn't get the message but the iPad does. I will find out if there both up to the latest 13.x.x. (it flew out of my head after I heard they were running the same version) So I'm pretty sure this has to be the userAgent string which any HTTP client sends up as a header (User-Agent:?) as I don't think any other browser-specific/OS-specific/device-specific information is transmitted. If you can send the user an app with just a browser widget in it where they can visit: https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent On both the iPad and iPhone they have then at least it will show if there *is* a difference between the two devices in terms of what WKWebView is sending (can also compare with Safari on the devices too which would either confirm or deny my suspicion about Safari not being a wrapped WKWebView). Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
That tester has both iPhone and iPad and I know there both running the same version of iOS. iPhone doesn't get the message but the iPad does. I will find out if there both up to the latest 13.x.x. (it flew out of my head after I heard they were running the same version) Odd indeed but I(well Panos) just found a iPad oddity that a couple of iPad Mini models running 12.x would only load local web pages if they were in the temp folder. So this unified iOS SW/HW thing is not 100% yet. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:09 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mark Waddingham Subject: Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13 On 2020-08-13 17:06, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > Thanks Mark. > > I searched all stacks for "userAgent" and it did not exist. After I > got some more feedback it is working on iOS 13 iPhones but not on an > iOS 13 iPad. So far this iPad is the only one with this issue. The > user tried in Safari on the iPad and did not get the message. So that is just odd - it might be worth checking that said iPad has the latest version of iOS13... There's a small chance that Apple has fixed something in WKWebView on iOS13 in some .x increment, and Twitter has blocked the versions before (via userAgent). Safari and WKWebView are not the same thing (I think Safari might use its own private version of WebKit under the hood - although I'm not 100% sure about that) so the Safari comparison might not be relevant in this case. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
On 2020-08-13 17:06, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: Thanks Mark. I searched all stacks for "userAgent" and it did not exist. After I got some more feedback it is working on iOS 13 iPhones but not on an iOS 13 iPad. So far this iPad is the only one with this issue. The user tried in Safari on the iPad and did not get the message. So that is just odd - it might be worth checking that said iPad has the latest version of iOS13... There's a small chance that Apple has fixed something in WKWebView on iOS13 in some .x increment, and Twitter has blocked the versions before (via userAgent). Safari and WKWebView are not the same thing (I think Safari might use its own private version of WebKit under the hood - although I'm not 100% sure about that) so the Safari comparison might not be relevant in this case. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
FYI, I have bitdefender on my Apple Laptop and when I post an entry to my mysql database on my server, I get a security alert from bitdefender (Catalina latest update and latest LC distro, LC 9.6.1). So, I wonder if the person with the problem might have some kind of anti-virus software installed. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Aug 13, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Mark. > > I searched all stacks for "userAgent" and it did not exist. After I got some > more feedback it is working on iOS 13 iPhones but not on an iOS 13 iPad. So > far this iPad is the only one with this issue. The user tried in Safari on > the iPad and did not get the message. > > LC 9.6.0 > OSX 10.14.6 > Xcode 11.3.1 > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:16 AM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Mark Waddingham > Subject: Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13 > >>> On 2020-08-13 13:46, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: >> When accessing Twitter via the Browser Widget on iOS 13 I get this >> error message==> "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch >> to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you >> browser to continue using twitter.com". Is there a widget setting I >> can change to eliminate this? It works on Android and iOS 12. This is >> from the first tester. Could there be a iOS devices setting that this >> user inadvertently changed that caused this? I'm waiting for other >> testers but wanted to get on top of this. Any ideas? > > Hmmm - the wording "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch to a > supported browser or disable the extension which masks you browser to > continue using twitter.com" suggests that twitter.com is using the userAgent > string to determine access. > > I'm pretty sure the old UIWebView (which we replaced with WKWebView in > 9.6) didn't support a custom user agent string - but the new WKWebView one > does. > > Are you setting `the userAgent` property of the browser widget anywhere? > > Of course, this wouldn't explain why it works in iOS12 / Android if this is > the problem... > > Warmest Regards, > > Mark. > > -- > Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Everyone can create apps > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
Thanks Mark. I searched all stacks for "userAgent" and it did not exist. After I got some more feedback it is working on iOS 13 iPhones but not on an iOS 13 iPad. So far this iPad is the only one with this issue. The user tried in Safari on the iPad and did not get the message. LC 9.6.0 OSX 10.14.6 Xcode 11.3.1 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:16 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mark Waddingham Subject: Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13 On 2020-08-13 13:46, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > When accessing Twitter via the Browser Widget on iOS 13 I get this > error message==> "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch > to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you > browser to continue using twitter.com". Is there a widget setting I > can change to eliminate this? It works on Android and iOS 12. This is > from the first tester. Could there be a iOS devices setting that this > user inadvertently changed that caused this? I'm waiting for other > testers but wanted to get on top of this. Any ideas? Hmmm - the wording "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you browser to continue using twitter.com" suggests that twitter.com is using the userAgent string to determine access. I'm pretty sure the old UIWebView (which we replaced with WKWebView in 9.6) didn't support a custom user agent string - but the new WKWebView one does. Are you setting `the userAgent` property of the browser widget anywhere? Of course, this wouldn't explain why it works in iOS12 / Android if this is the problem... Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
On 2020-08-13 13:46, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: When accessing Twitter via the Browser Widget on iOS 13 I get this error message==> "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you browser to continue using twitter.com". Is there a widget setting I can change to eliminate this? It works on Android and iOS 12. This is from the first tester. Could there be a iOS devices setting that this user inadvertently changed that caused this? I'm waiting for other testers but wanted to get on top of this. Any ideas? Hmmm - the wording "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you browser to continue using twitter.com" suggests that twitter.com is using the userAgent string to determine access. I'm pretty sure the old UIWebView (which we replaced with WKWebView in 9.6) didn't support a custom user agent string - but the new WKWebView one does. Are you setting `the userAgent` property of the browser widget anywhere? Of course, this wouldn't explain why it works in iOS12 / Android if this is the problem... Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Browser Widget and Twitter on iOS 13
When accessing Twitter via the Browser Widget on iOS 13 I get this error message==> "This browser is no longer supported. Please switch to a supported browser or disable the extension which masks you browser to continue using twitter.com". Is there a widget setting I can change to eliminate this? It works on Android and iOS 12. This is from the first tester. Could there be a iOS devices setting that this user inadvertently changed that caused this? I'm waiting for other testers but wanted to get on top of this. Any ideas? Thanks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Layers in PBrowser
> On 13 Aug 2020, at 4:16 am, Pi Digital via use-livecode > wrote: > > Why do I have the same discussion with you people Hi Sean, There are no ‘you people’, there is only us, including you. I can’t help you with your IDE problem, but I can see that others are trying hard to be helpful, and that you are running on empty. Maybe get some sleep and revisit the issue when you are feeling refreshed? Cheers, David G ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
