Re: Sorting text is *VERY* slow in LC9 on Windows (Re: Accumulating text is *VERY* slow in LC9 on Windows)

2021-09-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
Ah yes, the cheese thing. I so wish I had saved that thread, but I may have 
needed an extra backup drive to do it. So listen, and ye shall hear.


Long, long ago in the olden days, before there was a forum, before 64-bit 
apps, back when the QCC reports numbered in the lower hundreds, someone on 
the mailing list mentioned a preference for a cheese. I don't recall who or 
what, because at the time it seemed so innocuous. Someone else agreed, 
someone else disagreed, some did both. Discussions went on about which 
country produced the best cheese, opinions which were disputed by others 
who felt their own country should be nominated or at least take second 
place. Others had opinions about countries who did or did not produce 
cheese. Different varieties of cheese were analyzed, and opined upon. The 
same type of cheese was compared between one country and another. 
Suggestions were made to visit a country in order to try a cheese, which 
would presumably convince the doubters. It was implied that one's own 
country had good enough cheese, if not the best.


This went on for a very long time.

Of course, eventually the uninvolved, or those who were indifferent to 
cheese, or perhaps those who did not like cheese at all, asked the 
participants to desist and stay on topic. But by then the thread had taken 
on a life of its own and continued rolling on, gathering momentum like a 
stone thrown downhill and perhaps subsequently tumbling down river. Being a 
polite mailing list, no one actually said, "shut up" but at times you could 
read between the lines. Other readers suffered in stoic silence and made 
good use of their Delete key. There were occasional mutterings about 
slightly changing subject lines in posts, which prevented filtering out 
cheese curds from on-topic posts.


The conversation continued for months. Or if it didn't, it seemed like it. 
Finally List Mom appeared with a gentle but firm pronouncement that in 
addition to politics, religion, and other such topics, Cheese was now 
banned on the list.


Some were resigned, others sighed in relief. Occasionally you will still 
see oblique references to the dairy product but in general we speak of it 
only by inferred reference.


I trust I will not be banned for being so explicit, but sometimes one must 
speak plainly.


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On September 11, 2021 7:27:13 PM Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
 wrote:



I thought Mark was misremembering   Emmental when he said Edam (they do
start with an E)  but I believe
Venezuelan Beaver Cheeses is probably a better analogy as it has many
holes caused by the beavers' sharp incisors.
and is a bit of a mystery (very difficult to acquire) as is the workings of
windows buffer allocation  .

Can we say Cheese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A=3s

lagi

p.s Jacques - when did this Cheese thing start - it is certainly before my
time.

On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 19:16, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


You're talking about cheese. I'm telling Mom. Nyah.

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On September 10, 2021 8:42:48 AM Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
 wrote:


On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 8:15 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


On 2021-09-10 14:06, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

The windows heap is much more prudent than UNIXy counterparts it would
seem - where UNIX heaps will happily leave plenty of free space (which
the heaps know about and thus can re-use), Windows appears to avoid
that like the plague (which I'm sure is the case for lots of
historical reasons and backwards compatibility). [ To give a very
rough analogy, the map of used space in a heap on windows is like a
block of cheddar; whereas on UNIXy systems it will be like a block of
edam ].


I of course meant 'Swiss', not 'Edam'!



Thanks for the clarification. I feel like I have a decent understanding

of

cheeses, but I couldn’t figure out how cheddar and edam were different in
this analogy :-)

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Re: Sorting text is *VERY* slow in LC9 on Windows (Re: Accumulating text is *VERY* slow in LC9 on Windows)

2021-09-11 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
I thought Mark was misremembering   Emmental when he said Edam (they do
start with an E)  but I believe
 Venezuelan Beaver Cheeses is probably a better analogy as it has many
holes caused by the beavers' sharp incisors.
and is a bit of a mystery (very difficult to acquire) as is the workings of
windows buffer allocation  .

Can we say Cheese?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A=3s

lagi

p.s Jacques - when did this Cheese thing start - it is certainly before my
time.

On Fri, 10 Sept 2021 at 19:16, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> You're talking about cheese. I'm telling Mom. Nyah.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> On September 10, 2021 8:42:48 AM Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
>  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 8:15 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-09-10 14:06, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
> >> > The windows heap is much more prudent than UNIXy counterparts it would
> >> > seem - where UNIX heaps will happily leave plenty of free space (which
> >> > the heaps know about and thus can re-use), Windows appears to avoid
> >> > that like the plague (which I'm sure is the case for lots of
> >> > historical reasons and backwards compatibility). [ To give a very
> >> > rough analogy, the map of used space in a heap on windows is like a
> >> > block of cheddar; whereas on UNIXy systems it will be like a block of
> >> > edam ].
> >>
> >> I of course meant 'Swiss', not 'Edam'!
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification. I feel like I have a decent understanding
> of
> > cheeses, but I couldn’t figure out how cheddar and edam were different in
> > this analogy :-)
> >
> > --
> > Trevor DeVore
> > ScreenSteps
> >
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Re: M1 Mac possible problem

2021-09-11 Thread Henk van der Velden via use-livecode 
Hi Peter,

Same results here.

Big Sur
2.9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

On the opening screen I could either delete or reset the preferences, but in 
the end that made no difference. If you need any more tests, just let me know.

Henk


> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:47, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:55:46 -0700
> From: Mark Talluto mailto:m...@canelasoftware.com>>
> To: useLiveCodeList  >
> Subject: Re: M1 Mac possible problem
> Message-ID: <03aeb744-14c9-4d84-9d85-2dcc266cd...@canelasoftware.com 
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> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Here are my test results:
> 
> Intel iMac, Catalina
> I used the Dmg to install the app in my applications folder.
> 
> I ran the software, picked English (language) and World (location).
> The software will not let me click on anything beyond this screen:
> http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/mita/screen.png 
>  
>  >
> 
> -Mark
> 

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