Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 13:52, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

Now I can't uninstall it. The tutorial says to use "sudo apt-get remove 


There's a tutorial?

So, Linux gurus, what command do I use to get back the space that LC is 
using?




Heh.
You installed for just you?
In that case
cd ~/.runrev/components
livecode/setup.x86_64 uninstall

if you installed for all users then it's in /opt and you'll need sudo.

I still have the dream that someday the team will figure out that it's 
actually easy to create a real linux installer and then we won't need to 
jump through these hoops.


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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 3:35 PM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote:

Has anyone tried the LC 10 web export feature on a Chromebook? Maybe that would 
be a path that is more friction free?


I haven't, but if it works on the Chrome browser it'd probably work on a Chromebook where the 
default browser is Chrome. But that won't give me the IDE I wanted to use.


Now I can't uninstall it. The tutorial says to use "sudo apt-get remove " but it 
can't find LC. I tried the name of the installer file, the name of LC in the app drawer, and 
just "LiveCode" but none of those find it. And the desk I put all the LC windows into is now 
blank and empty, though the LC app does show in the app drawer.


So, Linux gurus, what command do I use to get back the space that LC is using?

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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[Mark Talluto via use-livecode]

On Feb 17, 2022, at 1:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> So much for that experiment. I guess I have to uninstall from the commandline.
> 
> I'm sad.

Has anyone tried the LC 10 web export feature on a Chromebook? Maybe that would 
be a path that is more friction free?

Best regards,
Mark Talluto

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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 2:00 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
Granted I know next to nothing about chromebooks, but it appears that root access is possible 
according to


https://www.howtogeek.com/210817/how-to-enable-developer-mode-on-your-chromebook/


I ran my old Lenovo in Developer mode exclusively because that used to be the only way to 
install third-party apps on a Chromebook, and I wanted to install the Android LC apps I built. 
Mostly they worked okay until recently.


But you do lose a lot of the security measures when you do that. Google recently provided a way 
to run in normal secure mode and install your own apps via adb. That does work, I'm happy to 
say. So I decided to keep my new Chromebook in normal mode which is largely unhackable.


But no go on the LC experiment. The machine went down in flames.

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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

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On 2/17/22 2:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 2/17/22 2:45 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

When I closed it I got a blank white screen with no native way to get rid of it.


Oh wait a sec. In the app overview I see that every single palette is in its own window. Is 
that normal? Is there a way to collect them into a single entity when launching the app?




Okay. The white screen was the backdrop. I put all the windows into their own desk, turned off 
the backdrop, made a new stack which also opened in a separate window which I had to move to 
the LC desk.


Even with the adjustable parts of the UI, the text is so tiny it's almost unreadable. Looks 
about 6-8 points.


I opened the old app browser and didn't see my stack. Opened prefs and the app browser jumped 
underneath it to a position above the top of the screen so I couldn't grab it and pull it back 
down. Closed prefs, opened the message box, typed "set the top of the mousestack to the 
mousev", positioned the mouse, hit return.


Nothing happened for a moment, then the fan went on, the mouse froze, the keyboard froze, the 
fan went wild, the screen went black, the power key didn't work until finally the machine shut 
itself off.


So much for that experiment. I guess I have to uninstall from the commandline.

I'm sad.

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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 2:45 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

When I closed it I got a blank white screen with no native way to get rid of it.


Oh wait a sec. In the app overview I see that every single palette is in its own window. Is 
that normal? Is there a way to collect them into a single entity when launching the app?


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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 12:51 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

I haven't, but...
I'll assume this is an intel chromebook, not an arm processor.


Yes, Intel i3.


LC doesn't have a "normal" linux installer, i.e., .rpm or .deb file.
You have to download the installer then change the permission bits to allow it 
to be executable.
If you can change the permissions via the chromebook ui then do it that way. Otherwise from the 
commandline you could just say

chmod +x LiveCodeInstaller-9_6_6-Linux.x64

After that you can launch the installer. I assume (silly me) that you can double-click an 
application on a chromebook to launch it, but if not you can launch it via the commandline:


./LiveCodeInstaller-9_6_6-Linux.x64

Now you have the choice of installing for just you or for everyone. You'll make life a lot 
easier on yourself if you select "just you".


...don't get me started on the (lack of an) uninstaller.


This worked! :) I had to set the executable bit from the commandline, everything else worked 
fine. I found my license and got the Intro startup window. When I closed it I got a blank white 
screen with no native way to get rid of it. No palettes, interface, nothing. Just white.


I was pretty excited there for a minute.


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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 12:35 PM, Stamatis Kapetanakis via use-livecode wrote:

I haven’t installed LC on chrombook. But I did install XOJO.

Only it turns out you can’t run XOJO in ChromeOS’ Linux because of missing 
dependencies and you don’t have access to install. The solution up to dual-boot 
in GalliumOS which is specifically tailored to chromebooks. Easy to find 
tutorials  online on how-to.
It was then easy to install the Debian package. I presume all of this holds 
true more or less for LC.

Ultimately I gave up on it because chrome hardware is underpowered - it runs 
ChromeOS beautifully but the cheap Asus chromebook I have just struggled with 
“proper” software. Plus storage is usually very limited on such devices and i 
ended up calling it a day on an interesting experiment.

This was 2-3 years ago and perhaps things may have changed. YMMV…
Stam


That fits what I saw too. The tutorial I was following suggested installing the Linux version 
of Slack. It did have a .deb file but when I tried to install it said there was a dependency 
(libappindicator3-1) and it wasn't installable. I even tried to apt-get it with the same 
result. I'm not sure why the tutorial, from XDA who should know, said it would install. It was 
a fairly recent post: 


I saw something about "FlatPack". I'll have to look it up again. I think it's supposed to get 
around some of these issues.


I didn't plan to actually do much programming with the Chromebook but there are lots of times 
when I'm using it and I want to look up something or test something quick.


ChromeOS has come a long way in the last few years. My new Chromebook has lots more RAM and a 
bit more storage, expandable to 256GB. It's running an Intel i3 CPU and is a lot snappier than 
my older Lenovo. I'd like to get LC running, even if it's a bit slow and dodgy.


And a note to the team: Education is using Chromebooks heavily, and the numbers of Chromebooks 
in education have exceeded all other laptops recently. If LC really wants to hit up education 
markets, some attention to Chrome OS would be a good start. I was building Android apps that 
ran on Chrome OS but they broke when LC updated the graphics library recently.


I haven't reported it because technically LC doesn't support Chrome OS. But I wish it did, and 
it would be an advantage to the company as well.


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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 2/17/22 10:35, Stamatis Kapetanakis via use-livecode wrote:

I haven’t installed LC on chrombook. But I did install XOJO.

Only it turns out you can’t run XOJO in ChromeOS’ Linux because of missing 
dependencies and you don’t have access to install. The solution up to dual-boot 
in GalliumOS which is specifically tailored to chromebooks. Easy to find 
tutorials  online on how-to.
It was then easy to install the Debian package. I presume all of this holds 
true more or less for LC.

Ultimately I gave up on it because chrome hardware is underpowered - it runs 
ChromeOS beautifully but the cheap Asus chromebook I have just struggled with 
“proper” software. Plus storage is usually very limited on such devices and i 
ended up calling it a day on an interesting experiment.

This was 2-3 years ago and perhaps things may have changed. YMMV…
Stam


Granted I know next to nothing about chromebooks, but it appears that 
root access is possible according to


https://www.howtogeek.com/210817/how-to-enable-developer-mode-on-your-chromebook/


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Re: Install LC on Chromebook

[Stamatis Kapetanakis via use-livecode]

I haven’t installed LC on chrombook. But I did install XOJO. 

Only it turns out you can’t run XOJO in ChromeOS’ Linux because of missing 
dependencies and you don’t have access to install. The solution up to dual-boot 
in GalliumOS which is specifically tailored to chromebooks. Easy to find 
tutorials  online on how-to. 
It was then easy to install the Debian package. I presume all of this holds 
true more or less for LC. 

Ultimately I gave up on it because chrome hardware is underpowered - it runs 
ChromeOS beautifully but the cheap Asus chromebook I have just struggled with 
“proper” software. Plus storage is usually very limited on such devices and i 
ended up calling it a day on an interesting experiment. 

This was 2-3 years ago and perhaps things may have changed. YMMV…
Stam
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Re: 25% Discount coupon for my LiveCode eBooks

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Matthias,

I just found your email on my spam box. I do not know how it ended up
there. I can see two emails in February. Sendowl and I parted ways. As I'm
focusing more on books than software, I moved shop to Payhip and moved the
books over. Sendowl was more expensive yearly than what those products were
making, so it had to go.

I'm going to send you a private email with attachments for those tools, but
be aware that I discontinued all of them and am not giving them support
anymore.

Best
A

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 21:33, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Andre,
>
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>
> I've sent you an email a few days ago regarding redownloading your books
> and tools which were purchased through Sendowl and about another topic.
> Didn't you get it?
>
> Regards,
> Matthias
>
>
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> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
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> >
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